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LSainsbury
11-02-2006, 11:53
Hi All,

Right - as you know I had my bike stolen from my garge the other day.

This got me thinking - - when I get a new one how do I secure it?

Currently I'm thinking the following:

Two lock bolts on the outside door along with one that covers the handle (the handle is one of those push in "secure" types)..

Also I'm thinking of knocking a steel U bar into the ground (or a U on a steel plate which is bolted to the floor) so I can secure the bike to that....any ideas on what I can use to do that and where to get the bits from? The ground is concrete so I have no idea how to secure it into the concrete!?

Any ideas?

Cheers

Lee

Paulie
11-02-2006, 12:05
http://www.accessunderwriting.co.uk/groundanchor.htm

Something like this might be what you`re looking for :)


Alternatively you could secure 4 bolts into the floor, put the plate over that, and then use locking wheel nuts on them.

spiderplant
11-02-2006, 12:49
The ground is concrete so I have no idea how to secure it into the concrete!?
Get a ground anchor as Paulie suggests. I believe you drill holes in the concrete. The bolts are like self-tapping screws. When you've tightened them enough, the heads break off so they can't be undone.

You can also get thing with a blank shotgun cartridge and a tripwire. Just be careful when you go in the garage ;)

http://www.bikesecure.co.uk/acatalog/Garage_and_misc__security.html

LSainsbury
11-02-2006, 14:01
Paulie and Spiderplant - that's excellent JUST what I was after!

Paulie - How do you mean 4 bolts and a plate over that? Not sure what you mean?

BTW - Reps on the way for both of you! (y)

Paulie
11-02-2006, 16:47
Paulie and Spiderplant - that's excellent JUST what I was after!

Paulie - How do you mean 4 bolts and a plate over that? Not sure what you mean?

BTW - Reps on the way for both of you! (y)


Bit of a Heath Robinson approach lol. Drill 4 holes and insert coach bolts, cement in and cover with a metal plate. To secure anything just use the locking wheelnuts.

But being that the ground anchor is what you`re after you can ignore all the above ;)

ikthius
11-02-2006, 17:42
also get a secure bike lock, one that has a manufacturers gurantee that if your bike is stolen, then they will pay you insurance/compensate you, the more expensive ones and better locks do this.

ik

spiderplant
11-02-2006, 18:02
also get a secure bike lock, one that has a manufacturers gurantee that if your bike is stolen, then they will pay you insurance/compensate you, the more expensive ones and better locks do this.

The Oxford Products lock insurance is rubbish.

It goes something like this:
£25 "registration fee"
£1000 max compensation
The bike must be locked to permanent street furniture
The lock must be broken during the theft
You must send them the broken lock

daz300
11-02-2006, 20:22
how about this (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101436&ts=85618&id=96493)from screw fix .

LSainsbury
11-02-2006, 20:32
how about this (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?cId=101436&ts=85618&id=96493)from screw fix .


Cool - I keep forgetting about ScrewFix!! They sell loads of old crap that I could do with!!! :tu: :disturbd:


Simple to fit hardened Steel floor / wall anchor...

I assume that dosn't mean a steel floor!! LOL!!

daz300
12-02-2006, 01:08
maybe it is there a "simple to fit hardened steel floor" as well in the price .

LSainsbury
12-02-2006, 17:42
Would this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Oxford-ground-anchor-and-chain-padlock-combi-deal_W0QQitemZ8037411786QQcategoryZ25643QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)be ok for my needs?

ikthius
12-02-2006, 19:00
also get a secure bike lock, one that has a manufacturers gurantee that if your bike is stolen, then they will pay you insurance/compensate you, the more expensive ones and better locks do this.
The Oxford Products lock insurance is rubbish.

It goes something like this:
£25 "registration fee"
£1000 max compensation
The bike must be locked to permanent street furniture
The lock must be broken during the theft
You must send them the broken lock

when I replied to this i thought a push bike had been stolen, but it sounds like a motor bike has been stolen.

ik

LSainsbury
12-02-2006, 19:20
when I replied to this i thought a push bike had been stolen, but it sounds like a motor bike has been stolen.

ik


No - you are correct - it was a mountain bike...but as you can see - paranoia has set in and I'm going overboard on securing anything new that goes in there...

So - if that's ok for motor bikes, it should be ok for a couple of cycles?!

spiderplant
12-02-2006, 21:21
Would this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Oxford-ground-anchor-and-chain-padlock-combi-deal_W0QQitemZ8037411786QQcategoryZ25643QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)be ok for my needs?
Good find. I might be tempted by one of those myself.

jonbxx
13-02-2006, 08:45
How about for a cheap and cheerful solution - get a D-lock and a bucket, fill the bucket with wet concrete and bury the D-lock into it so just a little of the 'D' is showing (not the lock part) Once set, try moving that around. Not a permanent fix like a ground anchor but it will slow the casual thief down a bit...

Motorbike shops are great for proper ground anchors, etc. The most important thing however, is to have as little of the lock, chain or whatever exposed as that gives a good target for a set of bolt cutters. If the only way a thief can break the lock will also damage the bike, they may look elsewhere.

I had a £1500 custom built bike stolen two weeks after building up stolen a few years ago. Not bitter or paranoid about really....

LSainsbury
13-02-2006, 09:38
Somehow I don't think bolt cutters would get though that plate of steel!

I think they concrete bucket could be moved....I'm sure two people could move it...

spiderplant
13-02-2006, 10:47
Somehow I don't think bolt cutters would get though that plate of steel!
Maybe not, but it's worth bearing in mind they can be levered out of the ground. Bike thieves go equipped with crowbars and scaffolding poles. So placing the anchor where it's difficult to get a lever in (e.g. close to a wall) is a good idea.

Also try to lock it so the lock won't reach the ground. It makes it harder to smash the lock if there's nothing to brace it against.

LSainsbury
13-02-2006, 14:18
Maybe not, but it's worth bearing in mind they can be levered out of the ground. Bike thieves go equipped with crowbars and scaffolding poles. So placing the anchor where it's difficult to get a lever in (e.g. close to a wall) is a good idea.

Also try to lock it so the lock won't reach the ground. It makes it harder to smash the lock if there's nothing to brace it against.


True...but this anchor thing has special concrete bolts that expand when screwed into the ground - so that would make it difficult to get out for a start...

And besides - they need to get into the garage first - mine is one of those types where you put the key in to pop-out the handle - then turn the handle that rotates the bars inside the garage door. I've just got one of these (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=20041&ts=36657)to put over the keylock / handle so they can't get it open in the first place.

ikthius
13-02-2006, 17:39
I was told in Dales in Glasgow that this is a very good lock, and it gives a manufactures insurance of up to about £500 if your bike is stolen when using one of these, but proving it could be hard:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/Default.aspx?Main=ProductDetail.aspx&W=0&Manufacturer=&UberCatName=&Cat=cycle&CategoryName=Locks&ProdID=4000000619&UberCat=0

ik