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Theodoric
11-11-2003, 22:28
Quote from "That was nearly a disaster" thread

'I just did a google for "cartoon animals" looking for pictures for the kids
talk about porn I never realised there was so much of it. luckily I noticed the website address before I clicked anything.'

He was only too right; wall to wall porn listings. As the porn industry is supposedly at the forefront of many Internet techniques, can I take it that they have managed to completely pervert the rankings of the Google search engine?

Mark W
11-11-2003, 22:31
Quote from "That was nearly a disaster" thread

'I just did a google for "cartoon animals" looking for pictures for the kids
talk about porn I never realised there was so much of it. luckily I noticed the website address before I clicked anything.'

He was only too right; wall to wall porn listings. As the porn industry is supposedly at the forefront of many Internet techniques, can I take it that they have managed to completely pervert the rankings of the Google search engine?


:eeek: :eeek:

kronas
11-11-2003, 22:33
i cant believe people dont know about this its been going on for years :rolleyes:

Alan Waddington
11-11-2003, 22:33
I understand that weblog trackback has broken google's PageRank system & the p0rnographers have taken full advantage.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/33448.html

KingPhoenix
11-11-2003, 22:33
was there really a need to start another thread about it????

downquark1
11-11-2003, 22:37
i cant believe people dont know about this its been going on for years :rolleyes:
Don't worry I'm sure the BBC news technology section will report it in a few months, when there are no more 'internet surveys' to report. :rolleyes:

downquark1
11-11-2003, 22:39
Can someone explain what's happening -this sounds interesting :dunce:

MetaWraith
11-11-2003, 22:41
Despite page ranking being broken,google is still a darn good general purpose engine to use. But like all tools, one gets more out of it when learns to use it properly. ie use the advanced search, use phrases, use include and exclude.

www.searchenginewatch.com is a good place to keep on the state of various search engines etc.

Alan Waddington
11-11-2003, 22:44
Can someone explain what's happening -this sounds interesting :dunce:

Try here:
http://e-comm.webopedia.com/TERM/L/link_farming.html

Theodoric
11-11-2003, 22:47
I understand that weblog trackback has broken google's PageRank system & the p0rnographers have taken full advantage.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/35/33448.html

Very interesting. Putting -trackback into the Google search does seem to work. Can you amplify on this?

Theodoric
11-11-2003, 22:51
was there really a need to start another thread about it????
I think so. I'm a great believer in trying to keep on topic (and then failing miserably, myself). I feel that the original thread was heading toward filtering pornography. I wanted to concentrate on the specific issue of 'can Google be rigged', hence the new thread.

Alan Waddington
11-11-2003, 23:03
I think so. I'm a great believer in trying to keep on topic (and then failing miserably, myself). I feel that the original thread was heading toward filtering pornography. I wanted to concentrate on the specific issue of 'can Google be rigged', hence the new thread.

It certainly works to cross-link sites. I have cross linked the website for the radio club i belong to to Hampshire cousin & rsgb websites and get the top 2 listings when appropriate keywords are entered e.g. 'farnborough radio society' . And the next 2 listings are pages on the cousin site that point to my site.

Chris
11-11-2003, 23:12
I think so. I'm a great believer in trying to keep on topic (and then failing miserably, myself). I feel that the original thread was heading toward filtering pornography. I wanted to concentrate on the specific issue of 'can Google be rigged', hence the new thread.

Seems fair to me.

So, at the risk of asking stupid questions, does anyone have an idiot's guide to avoiding the typical web-author's attempts to rig search engines?

Ramrod
11-11-2003, 23:31
Despite page ranking being broken,google is still a darn good general purpose engine to use. But like all tools, one gets more out of it when learns to use it properly. ie use the advanced search, use phrases, use include and exclude.

.Exactly!

Ramrod
11-11-2003, 23:37
Seems fair to me.

So, at the risk of asking stupid questions, does anyone have an idiot's guide to avoiding the typical web-author's attempts to rig search engines?Use the advanced Google search?

kronas
11-11-2003, 23:37
well im not worrying i know what links to look at and those that are 'corrupt'

goggle is still the NO1 search engine.....for me anyway..

Chris
12-11-2003, 00:19
Use the advanced Google search?

well, yes ... I already use advanced search to filter results if I'm after something very specific. I'm wondering more if there is any particular technique used by web authors to unfairly push their site up the rankings, and if there is a 'counter-technique' that filters out such techniques, if you get my meaning. :spin: