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Ramrod
08-01-2006, 20:41
Does anyone know if the courts ask a child which parent they would like to have custody of them (be their main carer) and if so, at what age?

.....I hope I am never in a situation to need this info for myself :(

Hom3r
08-01-2006, 20:45
I guess they would ask a child, but I don't know what.

I also believe that the child always stay with the mother unless, the mother is declared unfit. (drink, drugs, abuse)

dilli-theclaw
08-01-2006, 20:46
Does anyone know if the courts ask a child which parent they would like to have custody of them (be their main carer) and if so, at what age?

.....I hope I am never in a situation to need this info for myself :(One of my m8's in the last couple of years went through a custody 'battle' In that situation (obviously I can't speak for everyone). The courts appointed a social worker to spend time with the children at both addresses and did indeed ask the children (who were 7 and 10 at the time) who they'd rather live with.

The children were asked about this away from BOTH parties.

This is only my personal experience so I can't say for definate what happens now.

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I also believe that the child always stay with the mother unless, the mother is declared unfit. (drink, drugs, abuse)Maybe it's also dependant on age (of the children) too then. My m8 won his custody and he's a man.

Dunno.

edit - you can pm me if you want to ask anything else... I'll be confidential.

Chimaera
08-01-2006, 20:47
A quick google found this:
Occasionally, it may be necessary to apply to the court for issues to be resolved. If so, the court will always consider the welfare of any child to be of paramount importance. There are four main orders that a court can make.

Residence (previously custody) - an order stating with whom a child is to live. There can be a joint residence order, although this is unusual because it is seldom practical.

Contact (previously access) - an order requiring the person with whom the child lives to allow the child to visit or stay with or have contact with a named person. This can include telephone contact or contact by correspondence.

Prohibited Steps - an order prohibiting specific steps in relation to a child; for example, a change of surname or removal from the country.

Specific Issue - an order determining a specific issue relating to a child; for example, an educational dispute or a dispute over medical treatment.

More info here (http://www.divorce.co.uk/legal/englandwales/divorcethelaw/children.htm)

Actually the whole site is quite informative - www.divorce.co.uk - wish I'd known about it a few years back!

cookie_365
08-01-2006, 22:17
Courts will often ask older, maturer children, what their views are, but are very careful about making sure that they're not just being used as a bargaining point by the parents.

Ramrod
08-01-2006, 22:49
Courts will often ask older, maturer children, what their views areThe kiddy in this case is 4yo....too young?

marky
08-01-2006, 22:53
I believe when my parents split it was 12, because i was asked.

Not a good thing for parent or child :(

Maggy
09-01-2006, 02:01
Courts will often ask older, maturer children, what their views areThe kiddy in this case is 4yo....too young?

I would think so..But atlantis is currently undergoing a custody battle with his ex and he seems to know what the situation is in regards to this.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=659524&postcount=467

atlantis
09-01-2006, 13:10
In my case, my ex is seeking a defined access order, not custody.
What used to be called Custody is now called a residency order.
Can't help any further than that though, sorry, just hope I don't get this thread locked down just by appearing, like it happaned in Florences thread "thinking about our missing members"?

zovat
09-01-2006, 13:22
In my case, my ex is seeking a defined access order, not custody.
What used to be called Custody is now called a residency order.
Can't help any further than that though, sorry, just hope I don't get this thread locked down just by appearing, like it happaned in Florences thread "thinking about our missing members"?

From memory, the child will always be asked if they are deemed old enough to make such a decision (some kids grow up quicker than others), but this will only be "taken into account", the child may express a preference, and still end up with the other parent if the court feels that their welfare would be better served by this arrangement).

As to the close thread issue - I would say that this is most definately on topic, so no issues there ;)

cookie_365
09-01-2006, 18:38
The kiddy in this case is 4yo....too young?
Way too young.

Gareth
09-01-2006, 19:08
Way too young.Yep, I agree... at age 4, most kids will want to go live with Willy Wonka!

Ramrod
09-01-2006, 19:16
Way too young.Buggr! :(

Yep, I agree... at age 4, most kids will want to go live with Willy Wonka!
lol.....in this case he much prefers dad to mum.....

wilcoxm
15-09-2006, 23:18
set my mind at ease - My partner is divorced and has a 7 year old daughter, who has contact with her real father. A mutual agreement of every other weekend and 2 hours on a wednesday has been the case for 6 years after he walked out for another women.

He has now dropped a bombshell to "us" as he has now said that he is going for custody of his daughter (and his son from a new relationship, which he has left also):mad:

My gut feeling that he has no leg to stand on if he proceeds with this, but can anyone put my mind at ease so i can reasure my other half that all will be OK. What grounds do i have as a so-called step father, and a DAD that he hasnt been:erm:

Details are a little vauge, but you should get the idea.

Any advice would put my and the other half's mind at ease.:confused:

Cheers all

Ramrod
15-09-2006, 23:26
afaik, courts go in favour of the mother + if he walked out then he really shouldn't have a claim.......but when has fair play had anything to do with it?

zing_deleted
15-09-2006, 23:32
A quick google found this:


More info here (http://www.divorce.co.uk/legal/englandwales/divorcethelaw/children.htm)

Actually the whole site is quite informative - www.divorce.co.uk (http://www.divorce.co.uk) - wish I'd known about it a few years back!

I got joint residence :) im a rare case lol

timewarrior2001
15-09-2006, 23:47
set my mind at ease - My partner is divorced and has a 7 year old daughter, who has contact with her real father. A mutual agreement of every other weekend and 2 hours on a wednesday has been the case for 6 years after he walked out for another women.

He has now dropped a bombshell to "us" as he has now said that he is going for custody of his daughter (and his son from a new relationship, which he has left also):mad:

My gut feeling that he has no leg to stand on if he proceeds with this, but can anyone put my mind at ease so i can reasure my other half that all will be OK. What grounds do i have as a so-called step father, and a DAD that he hasnt been:erm:

Details are a little vauge, but you should get the idea.

Any advice would put my and the other half's mind at ease.:confused:

Cheers all


You have no legal rights what so ever towards these children.

Theres no reason to say he isnt a good father, just because he walked out on his wife. That kind of attitude is just wrong.

He is perfectly entitled to sue for custody, he's perfectly entitled to his day in court. He has however not got a lef to stand on.

He has to prove he can offer better care than the mother, that he can support himself and the child etc etc.

Maggy
15-09-2006, 23:54
set my mind at ease - My partner is divorced and has a 7 year old daughter, who has contact with her real father. A mutual agreement of every other weekend and 2 hours on a wednesday has been the case for 6 years after he walked out for another women.

He has now dropped a bombshell to "us" as he has now said that he is going for custody of his daughter (and his son from a new relationship, which he has left also):mad:

My gut feeling that he has no leg to stand on if he proceeds with this, but can anyone put my mind at ease so i can reasure my other half that all will be OK. What grounds do i have as a so-called step father, and a DAD that he hasnt been:erm:

Details are a little vauge, but you should get the idea.

Any advice would put my and the other half's mind at ease.:confused:

Cheers all

I think he is shooting at the moon.He can't just suddenly demand to get custody of all his children from all his failed relationships if he hasn't contested them up until now.

Is he in any relationship right now?What brought all this on anyway?I think he is just fishing for more contact time.Has he been consistant in his contact with his daughter?Has he stuck rigidly to the agreement or has he messed around?Has he been denied any of his contact time?I ask all these questions because it may explain why he is now considering such a momentous step.People don't do such things out of the blue unless they have what they consider a very good reason:erm:

wilcoxm
16-09-2006, 00:15
He is living with a women with 2 kids - only 1 lives with them. No consistency in contact due to work issues (he has to work abroad now and then) always changing plans, whilst never been denied acsess.

I have taken time off work to take his daughter to hospital for operations cause he cant make it, Twice. First day at school, I took her.... you get the jist of things.

He is blaming my partner for leaving her AND leaving his 2nd wife, due to rebound issues. My guess - its a cry for HELP.

maddyp
16-09-2006, 10:11
He would have to prove that he is the better parent and that the parenting you and your partner is giving is causing harm to the childs well being -significant harm. As basically the court would be asked by the real father to remove the child from your care -therefore a case has to be proved. Presuming the child is recieving good enough parent from you and your partner then he will not suceed.

Any judge would i feel be also be highly critical of the father for starting such a court application.

hope this helps -its from work experiance

zing_deleted
16-09-2006, 12:06
Theres plenty of good reasons to walk out on a wife

Nidge
16-09-2006, 12:38
I guess they would ask a child, but I don't know what.

I also believe that the child always stay with the mother unless, the mother is declared unfit. (drink, drugs, abuse)

Some children like to stay with their fathers, a lad who works with us has custody of his young lad who chose to live with him.