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inviroman
23-12-2005, 15:19
My mate had bb installed today does he have to use the instal disc if he connects it to his network port he has the 250 modem
Stuart
23-12-2005, 15:21
No.
MovedGoalPosts
23-12-2005, 15:23
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/forum/article.php?a=13

Simple answer - you only need the ntl disk if you use USB as you have to load drivers for the USB
inviroman
23-12-2005, 15:24
Cheers, xp should be able to assign ip will it???
MovedGoalPosts
23-12-2005, 15:25
Yep standard default XP settings should enable the ethernet connection to get an autoassigned IP from the modem
inviroman
23-12-2005, 15:27
Thanks for that he will not listen so i print it and take it to him that will shut him up!!
MovedGoalPosts
23-12-2005, 15:30
If he wants to use the CD, there is no reason why he shouldn't. It just will personalise Internet Explorer to ntl, and maybe a few other minor things. It won't do any harm, it's just not essential.
Web-Junkie
24-12-2005, 00:29
USB or ETHERNET, how about putting it this way: SKODA or FERRARI :)
Matthew
24-12-2005, 00:31
Ethernet.
inviroman
24-12-2005, 12:51
USB or ETHERNET, how about putting it this way: SKODA or FERRARI :)

He likes SKODAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Web-Junkie
24-12-2005, 15:07
Oh dear, bit of an anorak is he?
inviroman
24-12-2005, 15:31
His prob if he wont listen!!!
JackJones-ÐÐ-Ã
24-12-2005, 22:25
10mbit line usb download speed 500k
10 mbit line on ETHERNET download speed 1.40mbit
same pc same modem same line
Jim galbally
24-12-2005, 23:45
as jack points out, USB1.1 is SLOWER than 10mbit/sec so seems a bit silly to use it :)
theboylard
27-12-2005, 01:24
Sorry, I just joined as I have to take umbrage at some of the posts - there is FA wrong with a Skoda!!

I've got a vRS Octavia, sound as a pound and quick to boot.
You can't compare usb and ethernet using skoda, it's more like comparing Huwei (Skoda) with Cisco (Ferrari).
The name's crap but under the bonnet there's bugger all difference except the price tag :)

hapless
Web-Junkie
27-12-2005, 02:08
Steady on there cowboy :disturbd:

There is a stigma attached to SKODA granted, but that stigma was used to emphasise a point, not to degrade SKODA or SKODA owners. So how about I put it another way then: SMART CAR or SKODA :D
hokkers999
27-12-2005, 11:21
as jack points out, USB1.1 is SLOWER than 10mbit/sec so seems a bit silly to use it :) Oh dear, didn't check first did we? USB 1.1 is 12 mbps, USB 2.0 is 480 mbps.
JonathanLH
27-12-2005, 15:30
wasn't their a usb speed at 4mbit?
i don't fully remember, but didn't it used to be:
usb = 4mbit
fast usb = 12mbit
usb2 = 480mb
Graham M
27-12-2005, 17:13
Well you will get much reduced speeds on USB a lot of the time as the 12MBit is shared across the hub

Transfer speed

USB supports three data rates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rates).
A Low Speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbit/s) (183 KiB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiB)/s) that is mostly used for Human Interface Devices (HID) such as keyboards, mice and joysticks.
A Full Speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (1.4 MiB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiB)/s). Full Speed was the fastest rate before the USB 2.0 specification and many devices fall back to Full Speed. Full Speed devices divide the USB bandwidth between them in a first-come first-served basis and it is not uncommon to run out of bandwidth with several isochronous devices. All USB Hubs support Full Speed.
A Hi-Speed rate of 480 Mbit/s (57 MiB/s). (Commonly called USB 2.0)(Taken frm www.wikipedia.com)
Web-Junkie
27-12-2005, 17:24
Also, don't forget about Gigabit Ethernet! 1000mbit transfer rate wee wees over any USB device :)
JonathanLH
27-12-2005, 17:37
this thread has gone way off topic

so therefore i shall see your gigabit, and raise you an oc-48 (2.5gbit) :)
Web-Junkie
27-12-2005, 21:48
You don't get oc-48 built into common motherboards.

Gigabit Ethernet is standard on some motherboards, but really a 10/100mbit Ethernet Card is quite sufficient to handle a 10mb broadband connection.
JonathanLH
28-12-2005, 07:45
yeah, for the sake of a £5 ethernet card, don't bother with usb, it's just not worth the hastle. especially on a machine with <1ghz and <128mb if you're wanting 10mbit
Jim galbally
28-12-2005, 15:06
hokkers, i know the BUS speed of USB :)

there's a very good reason why you can't get that over a single connection... havea think about it and you'll get it :)
newbie
30-12-2005, 13:14
I have a Belkin Wireless Router(802.11b I think) and a USB (1.1) Wireless Access Point in my PC.

Would the above make it pointless upgrading to NTL's 10meg BB, or would I be OK? If it's pointless, what (minimum) kit should I look to get? BTW my PC has a 10/100 Ethernet card.

Thanks.
Stuart
30-12-2005, 13:18
Depending on the router, you may be able to get the full speed through a wired connection to the PC. You will NOT be able to get the full 10 Meg through a wireless connection with any B class router.

Regarding routers, a lot of people (myself included) use and can recommend the Linksys WRT54G range of routers. These (AFAIK) should handle 10 Meg easily.
homealone
30-12-2005, 13:41
Depending on the router, you may be able to get the full speed through a wired connection to the PC. You will NOT be able to get the full 10 Meg through a wireless connection with any B class router.

Regarding routers, a lot of people (myself included) use and can recommend the Linksys WRT54G range of routers. These (AFAIK) should handle 10 Meg easily.

One thing to be aware of is that the latest V5 WRT54G routers use a different operating system to earlier versions, this means that the use of 'third party' firmware is no longer possible.

- a WRT54GL model will apparently be available, based on Linux, which can use third party firmware, but will be more expensive.

- in the meantime the consensus seems to be that the 'new' V5 model of this router has less memory, a different OS & performance issues.

Advice seems to be hang out for the 'L' model, or try to get a version 4 ;)

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/70386

;)