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ZrByte
04-11-2003, 21:04
Well I got my ticket booked for tomorrow night at 8pm. I am really looking forward to seeing it and Judging by how popular the Matrix Reloaded Thread was on .com when the film was released I would say a few others must be looking forward to seeing it aswel.
Figured we can have a discussion about the storyline (Hence the spoiler tag in the thread title) and people can post what they think of the movie, after seeing all the Clips I think even if the story sucks completeley the CGI will make up for it (Much like starwars AOTC), Judging by the previous two movies I dont think that this one will Disappoint.

Look forward to the discussion, and Kudos to anybody else who will be seeing it tomorrow.

Jerrek
04-11-2003, 22:04
I've got mine for 12:01am Wednesday (4am English time) in the IMAX.

Bowser
04-11-2003, 23:09
I got my ticket for tomorrow for 3pm :D.

Russ
04-11-2003, 23:11
I've got mine for 12:01am Wednesday (4am English time) in the IMAX.

British time, thank you very much :p

And apparently the end of the last film is somewhere in the first film :spin:

ZrByte
05-11-2003, 01:27
Russ when you say end of the last film, do you mean the previous film or the new one (Last in the trilogy)?? Confused me a lil there.
If you mean the previous film, yeah, if you look during the original movie quite close to the beggining when neo gets taken in by the agents, when he is in the interogation room you can see it through what looks like CCTV screens, however if you look closeley it is actually the screen wall of the architects chamber.

Unless you mean something else? :shrug:

TigaSefi
05-11-2003, 07:41
It meant to be teh biggest pile of doodah ever.

downquark1
05-11-2003, 08:30
What exactly was wrong with the 2nd film (reloaded)? I admit it wasn't as good as the first one but why did so many people hate it?

aliferste
05-11-2003, 08:42
This is my opinion on what has happened!!

I think Neo is the only person left alive......that is why he is called "the one" ie he is the only one! If he buggers up the Matrix he will not be a happy chappy :)

etccarmageddon
05-11-2003, 08:50
Russ when you say end of the last film, do you mean the previous film or the new one (Last in the trilogy)?? Confused me a lil there.
If you mean the previous film, yeah, if you look during the original movie quite close to the beggining when neo gets taken in by the agents, when he is in the interogation room you can see it through what looks like CCTV screens, however if you look closeley it is actually the screen wall of the architects chamber.

Unless you mean something else? :shrug:

I think he means the phone box scene at the end of M1 where Neo flys away is actually taking place just after the end of M3 - but it's just an internet rumour and I'm 99% sure not true.

gary_580
05-11-2003, 09:08
British time, thank you very much :p

And apparently the end of the last film is somewhere in the first film :spin:


Well actually, you mean GMT

Russ
05-11-2003, 09:42
I think he means the phone box scene at the end of M1 where Neo flys away is actually taking place just after the end of M3 - but it's just an internet rumour and I'm 99% sure not true.

Yes - if you check the date on the phone it gives you a clue. But it is of course just rumour. Anyway, we'll soon find out :D

ZrByte
05-11-2003, 15:02
I think he means the phone box scene at the end of M1 where Neo flys away is actually taking place just after the end of M3 - but it's just an internet rumour and I'm 99% sure not true.

Wow, never noticed that before, did anyone else notice what I was pointing out??? or wasnt it as oscure as I would like to think??

Edit: Hang on I just watched that bit of the first one you mentioned, why is 9-18-99 a clue?? I might just be being dumb here but I dont get the significance :shrug:

Edit 2: lol I just realsied that is the date of my birthday :D

Jerrek
05-11-2003, 15:26
Well actually, you mean GMT
There is no such thing as GMT anymore. It is called UCT, or Zulu time.

And the movie was brilliant. W00t. A little odd, but brilliant.

Russ
05-11-2003, 15:28
It's actually called GMT :)

Defiant
05-11-2003, 15:38
There is no such thing as GMT anymore

You been drinking

Stuart
05-11-2003, 16:00
There is no such thing as GMT anymore. It is called UCT, or Zulu time.

And the movie was brilliant. W00t. A little odd, but brilliant.
UCT is GMT. Just a different name..

http://www.usefulcontent.org/adlocum/dest/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?Zulu+time

Russ
05-11-2003, 16:27
Anyway, enough about proving the Yank wrong, what about the film :D

Peter
05-11-2003, 16:44
There is no such thing as GMT anymore. It is called UCT, or Zulu time.

Uh, sure. GMT doesn't exist, right? :p

UCT/Zulu time is used mainly in the military/marine areas.

They all mean the same thing anyway. (or just about)

Xaccers
05-11-2003, 17:03
UTC is a measure of the rotation angle of the Earth as observed astronomically. It is affected by small variations in the rotation of the Earth, and can differ slightly from the civil time on the Greenwich meridian

Anyway, tell us more about the film :)

Bowser
05-11-2003, 18:25
And the movie was brilliant. W00t. A little odd, but brilliant.

It was good but not as good as the original. (Lets start the spoilers!!!)

Jarandco
05-11-2003, 20:01
It was good but not as good as the original. (Lets start the spoilers!!!)


If you do make sure its obvious that its a spolier! :)

etccarmageddon
05-11-2003, 20:04
Yes - if you check the date on the phone it gives you a clue. But it is of course just rumour. Anyway, we'll soon find out :D

anorak! :)


when are you off to see it?

Boom
05-11-2003, 22:56
Seen it. Just for those that haven't I thought it was a good movie, apart from cheesy lines and I'm not quite sure what to make of the end.

ZrByte
06-11-2003, 00:15
Spoilers ahead......................




























You sure you want to see this???????????????????????




























Last chance to turn back..........................














So, who thinks we will have a follow on Trillogy in the near future?? Things just seem a little bit too up in the air and ends just didnt seem tied enough for it to be over.
That whole comment about Neo from the Oricle at the end Just, seems to say to Me that Neo's Work isnt over, and I dont think the peace will last between the humans and the machines.
I really liked the machine city though, I like the way how they seem to admire insects and mini-beasts :D
I thought it got very tacky when Smith started floating about, I mean it is bad enough when neo does it but at least Neo has an Excuse.

So how about a list of Pros' and cons'....
Pro....
Sentinals
Persephone :naughty:
Lots n Lots of action
More action
Even More Sentinals
Did I mention Persephone?? :naughty:
Neo's Sight whn he becomes blind

Con....
As O'niell from stargate would say it was full of Cliches (sp??)
Very confusing
A lot of things dont get explained at all
Others get over explained

ic14
07-11-2003, 17:54
I saw it today!
****ing awesome film! And i thought the ending was very good!

(anyone else work out who that kid is? The one who kept going on about neo saving him in reloaded)

Atomic22
07-11-2003, 19:13
i cant believe everyone gets so worked up about a ticket for a film....me and most of the people i know watched it weeks ago on a perfect quality trilogy dvd that was doing the rounds

ZrByte
07-11-2003, 21:27
i cant believe everyone gets so worked up about a ticket for a film....me and most of the people i know watched it weeks ago on a perfect quality trilogy dvd that was doing the rounds



clearly not one of the more intelligent people on this board are you atomic, bragging about watching Pirate DVD's :nono: shame on you.

Jarandco
07-11-2003, 22:34
Well for everyone who has seen it here is a very very longa dn detailed explination of about everything - (not written by myself i might add, but from someone else on a forum) It makes very interesting reading!!!

Neo is a machine, kinda. He is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind (probably based on a "The One" template program). That's why, at the end of Revolutions, when his body is being taken away, he is shown as an orange glow. The orange glow is how the machines see each other, and therefore how they see Neo. It is also how Neo sees Smith inside Bane... he is seeing the machine program of Smith inside Bane's mind, and therefore it is an orange glow in the shape of the Smith.

But the orange glow isn't the only reason to believe Neo is a machine. Throughout the trilogy other hints are given, such as: "His neural kinetics are way above normal.", "He's a machine.", "Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication...", etc.

So if Neo is a machine, why was he created (as all machines must have a purpose)? He was created by the Oracle and the Architect to be The One. As the Architect explains to him: "Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix... Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of The One... The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program."

Translated, the Architect is explaining that Neo was designed to be a religious figure to the freed humans, thus causing them to put their faith (hope) in Neo and to rally around him ("...sum of a remainder..."). This helps to ensure that the freed humans are focused on Neo instead of war, and to keep them all together in one place, Zion (which was built by the machines for this purpose also). Neo is a form of control in the real world.

And just to make sure that Neo carries out his part of their plan, the machines programmed him with "... a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the [humans]." This, along with his enhanced abilities and the "guidance" of the Oracle, keeps him on the intended course.

The Architect also states that "The function of The One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program." This simply means that The One program in Neo's mind is the most important (prime) program in the Matrix, and that now that his mission (purpose) is complete, he must return to the source for deletion (all machines must have a purpose). The phrase "... temporary dissemination..." means that the The One program will be used again in the next version of the Matrix. This is also why Neo's choice of the left door will destroy the Matrix, as there can be only one The One in the Matrix at any time. By staying in the Matrix Neo is preventing it from being reloaded, as a reload will do nothing without another The One for the next version. (In programming terms he is the highest priority task, and he will not release the Matrix program's main semaphore.)

OK, so The One is a human with enhanced genetics, enhanced implants, and a machine programmed mind, and was created by the Oracle and the Architect to carry out a specific purpose (form of control in and out of the Matrix) in each iteration of the Matrix. Now let's see how The One fits in with the entire story of the trilogy.

As is explained, the Matrix was created by the Architect, at the end of the war with the humans, as a way to control the humans and use them as a power source (I know, hard to believe...). The first Matrix was "... quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime.", while the second Matrix was redesigned "... to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature." Basically Heaven and then Hell. In both cases, however, no conscious choice was given to the humans as to whether or not they wanted to believe in the reality of the Matrix. This caused the majority of humans to reject the Matrix and die ("... whole crops were lost.").

To solve this problem the Oracle was created, and realized correctly that the humans needed to be given a choice: "Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche... she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level." So by giving humans a choice, even at an unconscious level that only 0.1% are ever aware of, they accepted the Matrix.

Unfortunately for the machines, however, a majority of the 0.1% who were aware of the choice usually chose the real world over the Matrix. "While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster." The machines therefore also needed a way to control the 0.1% of the humans who chose the real world over the Matrix, thus Zion and The One were created.

As was explained earlier, Zion was built by the machines to ensure that the freed humans would all gather in one place, and The One was created to be their religious figure, helping to distract them from renewed war with the machines. Both forms of control.

But even with Zion and The One, the unpredictability of choice ("systemic anomoly") still forced the machines to occasionally "reload" the Matrix. This always occurs when The One reaches the Source, which he can only do after attaining the level of power necessary for him to defeat the Merovingian, obtain the Keymaker, etc. The One program is then temporarily reinserted into the Source (machine mainframe), in preparation for the next iteration of the Matrix. In the process the machines gain the knowledge and experiences of The One, allowing them to better predict the future behavior of the humans, and thus reduce the systemic anomolies.

So that is the situation at the start of the sixth iteration of the choice-Matrix. Luckily for the humans, however, the Oracle does not want them to be enslaved in the Matrix any longer, or for the freed humans to be killed. She therefore decides to take a risk and use Neo to bring about a "revolution".

In M1 (The Matrix) she meets with The One, Neo, as she has done in the five previous iterations of the Matrix. Normally she simply helps guide The One to his meeting with the Architect. Except this time the Oracle gives Neo a special cookie, which he eats. The cookie isn't actually a cookie, though, it's an upgrade to Neo's program. Since the Oracle created the The One program, she can predict exactly what Neo will do in the future, specifically how he will destroy Smith (from the inside, with some copying from Neo to Smith occuring). She therefore includes in the program upgrade code that will give Smith the ability to replicate himself, and for Neo and Smith to see the future as she does.

In M2 (The Matrix Reloaded) Neo plays out his role as The One, meeting with the Architect. However, due to his love for Trinity he chooses the left door, preventing the Matrix from reloading. This was seen in advance by the Oracle, as she has the ability to predict Neo's behavior (as explained above) as well as human behavior in general (due to the nature of her program). She therefore told Trinity that she would fall in love with Neo (in M1), all the while knowing it would eventually cause Neo to choose the left door.

In M3 (The Matrix Revolutions) the Oracle's plan comes to fruition. While the machines begin their assualt on Zion (for the sixth time), Smith continues to replicate himself throughout the Matrix. Neo, on the otherhand, is stuck in the train station. Apparently, fulfilling his mission to meet with the Architect unlocks some section of his program that allows Neo to use his enhanced implants to once again become part of the machine collective (perhaps because of the Oracle's upgrade?). He is therefore able to sense and control other machines wirelessly. The first example of this is when he stops the sentinels at the end of M2. Since he is not quite ready to use his new abilities, however, his program gets stuck at the security checkpoint of the Matrix, the train station.

In the train station Neo meets with Rama Kandra, his wife, and their daughter Sati. Rama and his wife are both machines from the real world who can jack into the Matrix, like all other machines, and live human lives. Sati is a program created by these two machines out of love, which Rama explains to Neo is not out of the grasp of the machines. They are on their way back into the Matrix to leave Sati with the Oracle for safe keeping, as any program without a purpose is deleted.

After being rescued from the train station by Trinity, Morpheus, and Seraph, Neo is helped out of the Matrix using the standard jack. While aboard the Hammer he has another vision of the future, this time of the three power lines leading from the Matrix power station to 01, the machine city (he is able to see the power lines due to his newfound connection to the machine collective). He therefore takes the Logos, along with Trinity, and leaves for 01. Along the way he confronts the stowaway Bane (who has the Smith program inside of him), and is blinded by him. Although blind, Neo is still able to see other machines (orange glow), including the Smith program inside Bane, which he uses to defeat Bane. He also uses his power to control other machines to detonate the bombs fired at the Logos by the 01 defenses.

Meanwhile Smith is replicating out of control in the Matrix, and eventually confronts the Oracle after taking over Seraph and Sati. They have a brief conversation in which he calls her "Mom", referring to the fact that she helped to create him (along with the Architect) as well as Neo (part of his program now). The Oracle then tells Smith to "Do what you came here to do.", so he takes over her as well. The newly formed Smith then stands up and laughs hysterically, foreshadowing the events at the end of the movie.

Eventually the Logos crashes in 01, but not before Neo gets a top-down view of the orange glowing city with his newfound machine-vision (notice the fractal patterns). Unfortunately Trinity is killed in the crash, and explains to Neo that both of them have been living on borrowed time. Neo since he was ressurected by Trinity, and Trinity since she was ressurected by Neo. Both are meant to die and Trinity is simply happy for the oportunity this time to tell Neo how she feels about him. (But shame on the brothers for killing off Trinity in such a lame way. Couldn't she have at least died trying to save the ship, not just letting it crash!)

Neo then leaves the Logos and enters the machine building into which it crashed (the building is seen in the same orange glowing machine-vision). He is then confronted by the Deus Ex Machina, who knows that Neo is the only one who can stop Smith from destroying the Matrix, but still shows hatred toward Neo (due to the fact that he is mostly human). After a show of force, the Deus Ex Machina agrees to peace with the humans in exchange for Neo's promise to destroy Smith. This causes the sentinels to halt their attack on the Zion temple, the last holdout of the remaining humans (the dock and city have already been destroyed).

The machines then jack Neo into the Matrix, since he has not yet masterred the ability to do so wirelessly (this theme of Neo having to learn to use his new abilities runs throughout the trilogy). Neo then confronts Smith, who says he has seen the future, and that he (the one particular Smith) is the one that defeats Neo. The other Smiths (all of the other people in the Matrix have now been taken over by him) therefore only watch as the fight begins.

After a brutal battle Neo is near defeat, but continues to fight. When asked why he does so, Neo responds "Because I choose to.", echoing the theme in M2 that "Everything begins with choice." (the only way humans achieve true freedom). But even though he delivers a stunning punch to Smith which sends him through the ground, Neo is eventually defeated. Before Smith takes him over he pauses, however, realizing that he has seen this very moment in his visions, and he already knows what he is going to say. "Everything that has a beginning has an end..." he mutters confusedly. This causes Neo to realize that the Oracle still exists somewhere inside of Smith, and that she is partially able to control his thoughts. Taking his cue from the Oracle, Neo freely gives himself to Smith.

Thus Neo is defeated, and Smith's original purpose, to defeat The One (which he is never really expected to achieve, which leads to his bad temperment) is accomplished. Smith therefore no longer has a purpose and must be deleted. But since programs marked for deletion must return to the source, how is Smith to be deleted? Simple, the machines send the command through Neo, into Smith, using a burst of energy. This causes all of the Smith clones, and the original Smith, to be deleted, leaving the original inhabitants of the bodies he has taken over (this is a basic function of the agent programs, that they leave their hosts as they found them, with death being the only exception).

This then completes another revolution in the Matrix cycle, as The One has reached the Source and has reinserted the prime program (Neo's program, his knowledge and experiences). The Matrix is then reloaded back to it's initial state, the late 20th century.

The Oracle then meets with Sati, Seraph, and the Architect in a park outside the city as the sun rises over it. The Architect tells her that she was playing a "very risky game", and she asks him if he will honor the promise of peace. He says that he will, since he is not human (meaning humans do not keep their promises, an insult). This means that those people who unconsciously become aware of the Matrix and choose to leave will be freed, and those living in Zion will not be killed. The war between man and machine is over, or at least suspended.

Looking upon the sunrise the Oracle asks Sati if that was her doing, and the girl responds that she did it for Neo (made the sun rise). Apparently Neo's experience with love, which was uploaded from him to the Source, caused the machines to show pity on Sati and give her a purpose instead of deleting her. She is now in control of the sun. Sati also asks the Oracle if they will ever see Neo again, and the Oracle replies that they might, indicating that the The One program will be used again in the future, as it had been for the previous six iterations of the Matrix. M3 therefore ends where M1 began, except that now the humans who become aware of the Matrix will be freed (a decent compromise if you ask me).

Jarandco
07-11-2003, 22:35
I saw it today!
****ing awesome film! And i thought the ending was very good!

(anyone else work out who that kid is? The one who kept going on about neo saving him in reloaded)

Just a kid i believe, just another character

ic14
07-11-2003, 22:39
Just a kid i believe, just another characterWRONG!! :D
Hes one of the few who managed to break out of the matrix by himself! Watch the Animatrix for more info ;)

ZrByte
07-11-2003, 22:51
Hes one of the few who managed to break out of the matrix by himself! Watch the Animatrix for more info

Yes he self substantiated himself, and I believe he is the only one to have Ever done that.

ic14
07-11-2003, 22:54
Yes he self substantiated himself, and I believe he is the only one to have Ever done that.The runner in "World Record" nearly did, but the machines spotted him at the last moment.

(as you could have guessed i watched the animatrix this morning, before i saw revolutions)

Drodney
08-11-2003, 20:13
I thought the film was awful, dreadfull in fact, no wonder it got such bad reviews

Xaccers
09-11-2003, 00:59
I was pleasently suprised by it.
Again the fight scenes were became boring, but there was plenty of action, and seemed to have more storyline than the second.
Great post by Jarandco, explained a lot (missus didn't get it so she didn't enjoy the film but then she can be a miserable cow at times)

Drodney
09-11-2003, 08:58
The story line is awful it is just an excuse for the action

Drodney
09-11-2003, 09:08
WRONG!! :D
Hes one of the few who managed to break out of the matrix by himself! Watch the Animatrix for more info ;)

He is just another pointless character though

Bulky
09-11-2003, 10:25
Jarandco i have a lot to thank you for :) , everything has now become clear :), loved the film just need to watch a few more times to take in all information :)

Tezcatlipoca
10-11-2003, 01:00
Matrix Revolutions...

Better than Reloaded in some ways, worse in others.

And still not a patch on the original. Not even close.

Plus, although there was luckily no stupid & ridiculously boring scene like the Zion dance / Neo-Trin sex scene in Reloaded, I still found parts of Revolutions boring.

When I came out of the cinema after 1st seeing the original Matrix back in 1999, I had such an adrenaline rush. It was such an excellent film, & I totally loved it. On leaving the cinema each time after seeing both Reloaded & Revolutions I just felt...underwelmed. Totally underwelmed. Not just because there's no way they could possibly live up to the hype, but simply cos they're both...crap. They should never have been made, IMO. They spoil the memory of the original. They weren't made to tell more of the story & expand on the 1st one (if they were, they failed), they were just made to make the Wachowski's, Silver, & WB loads more money.

The plot: Crap. And still lots of stuff not explained.

The acting: Awful. (prime example: Neo's reaction in Trinity's death scene? A wooden "Oh. Oh no." )

The FX: Very good, mostly.

The action & fights: Good. Better than Reloaded. The fights were, mostly, not boring, unlike Reloaded. The final battle with Neo & Smith was a lot better than the dodgy-CGI fight between Neo & 100 Smiths in Reloaded. The Dock battle with the APU mech things & the Sentinals was quite good. But some bits were still dull.

5/10

... And it only scores that high because of the excellent, but sadly short, bit where you see Monica Bellucci's amazing cleavage

Xaccers
10-11-2003, 02:59
... And it only scores that high because of the excellent, but sadly short, bit where you see Monica Bellucci's amazing cleavage

So you weren't impressed by her visible beaver in the second film then? :naughty:

etccarmageddon
10-11-2003, 08:57
went to see it last night... it doesnt have the 'fun' factor that reloaded has but has more shoot 'em up action and more of a purpose.

the ending could have been more 'joyful' but instead it ended with a wimper.

I'm still puzzled about this 'last 17 minutes' of the trilogy where joel silver says they spent 10's of millions and they raised the bar to a point where any future film could never match it. I read that a couple of years back in an interview.

ic14
10-11-2003, 17:21
Plus, although there was luckily no stupid & ridiculously boring scene like the Zion dance / Neo-Trin sex scene in Reloaded, I still found parts of Revolutions boring.
That scene was apperently added on reeves insitence!

So you weren't impressed by her visible beaver in the second film then? :naughty:erm..... k

Jarandco
10-11-2003, 17:27
Great post by Jarandco, explained a lot (missus didn't get it so she didn't enjoy the film but then she can be a miserable cow at times)

Thats ok! :)

Jarandco i have a lot to thank you for :) , everything has now become clear :), loved the film just need to watch a few more times to take in all information :)

Again just happy to help :)

Jarandco
10-11-2003, 17:28
So you weren't impressed by her visible beaver in the second film then? :naughty:

:erm:

Wonders if i should watch the film again... :shrug:

:p

Tezcatlipoca
10-11-2003, 18:37
So you weren't impressed by her visible beaver in the second film then? :naughty:

Don't remember that bit. Hmm, looks like I actually have a reason to re-watch Reloaded....or at least part of it.

Defiant
10-11-2003, 18:41
I thought this was going to be the last Matrix movie but it did kinda leave it open for a third. The oracle did say Neo could return :)

deadite66
10-11-2003, 18:57
So you weren't impressed by her visible beaver in the second film then? :naughty:

Like this (NOT FOR KIDS) ;) (http://www.ghostpilot.co.uk/Matrixxx.jpg)

Atomic22
10-11-2003, 19:10
clearly not one of the more intelligent people on this board are you atomic, bragging about watching Pirate DVD's :nono: shame on you.

heh when you are sitting in a bar in ibeza and they are showing the full trilogy on giant screen telly perfect quality and its happy hour half price booze all night i can assure you you dont ask where the film came from:devsmoke:

ZrByte
10-11-2003, 19:22
heh when you are sitting in a bar in ibeza and they are showing the full trilogy on giant screen telly perfect quality and its happy hour half price booze all night i can assure you you dont ask where the film came from

I can immagine :D but didnt you say that you watched it on a DVD that was doing the rounds a few weeks ago?? doesnt sound like a Bar in Ibiza to me.

Tezcatlipoca
10-11-2003, 23:55
Some Monica Bellucci links :D

http://www.monicabellucci.it/

http://www.monica-bellucci-pictures.com/

A very nice pic:

http://www.monica-bellucci-pictures.com/pictures/foto/monica-bellucci11.jpg

And a link to a pic of Monica wearing "that outfit" in Matrix Revolutions :D - http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2003_The_Matrix_Revolutions/2003_the_matrix_revolution_044.jpg

Xaccers
11-11-2003, 00:07
Don't remember that bit. Hmm, looks like I actually have a reason to re-watch Reloaded....or at least part of it.

Its when they come out with the keymaker, before the ghosts chase him away, her dress is rather see-through (my gf pointed it out to me)

TheTyke1967UK
11-11-2003, 11:51
Just saw it last night and left me not as much let down by the 2nd , for a trilogy I think its a bit of a daft ending, effects good as ever.

Tyke

ic14
11-11-2003, 18:22
Its when they come out with the keymaker, before the ghosts chase him away, her dress is rather see-through (my gf pointed it out to me)hm may have to look for that ;)

A very nice pic:

http://www.monica-bellucci-pictures.com/pictures/foto/monica-bellucci11.jpg
A very very nice pic ;)

Jarandco
11-11-2003, 18:44
Some Monica Bellucci links :D

http://www.monicabellucci.it/

http://www.monica-bellucci-pictures.com/

A very nice pic:

http://www.monica-bellucci-pictures.com/pictures/foto/monica-bellucci11.jpg

And a link to a pic of Monica wearing "that outfit" in Matrix Revolutions :D - http://www.celebritywonder.com/mp/2003_The_Matrix_Revolutions/2003_the_matrix_revolution_044.jpg
Some very nice pics and yes that outfit is pretty ncie! :D ;)

Mick
11-11-2003, 18:50
Watched the film the other day and I thought it was fantastic. I agree that somethings needed to be explained but maybe this is a clue that they maybe more Matrix films, it has been said that there maybe more, lets hope so.

Atomic22
11-11-2003, 19:11
I can immagine :D but didnt you say that you watched it on a DVD that was doing the rounds a few weeks ago?? doesnt sound like a Bar in Ibiza to me.
yes you are correct i never explained properly.....i meant the trilogy dvd was doing the rounds of every pub in ibeza on consecutive nights and they were also selling it on the local street market for the equivalent of a tenner.....bad boys

philip.j.fry
12-11-2003, 18:23
Persephone :naughty:
Did I mention Persephone?? :naughty:



Just come back from seeing it, I don't think you mentioned Persephone enough. Why, oh why did the camera angles in that scene have to be so poor :cry:

The nightclub decor was amazing though, wish there were more clubs around that looked like that.

aliferste
16-11-2003, 19:55
Mightyfine film.......MIGHTY!!!