Season 2012/2013

[Damien]

All discussion relating to next season and the pre-season before it can go in here. Discussion about the European Champions should go in this topic: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88/33687704-euro-2012-a.html.

[colin25]

Van persie for Man City..you read it here first :D

[denphone]

Van persie for Man City..you read it here first :D

Yes l think Arsenal look to have lost the battle to keep him it seems.

[thenry]

to me all this talk of him leaving is over the top at the moment. he's asked for a squad able to compete, that doesn't happen over night. we have a lot of players to shift and bring in but hey if it acts as a smokescreen to aid us with the overhaul so be it

[broadbandking]

I think Villa need two new wingers and two central defenders as we do have some goalscorers Gabby and Bent and if we can have them two upfront then delivery is all we need to crack and the goals will come not loads but enough to have a better season.

Plus we need a new manager (Paul Lambert please)

[colin25]

I think Villa need two new wingers and two central defenders as we do have some goalscorers Gabby and Bent and if we can have them two upfront then delivery is all we need to crack and the goals will come not loads but enough to have a better season.

Plus we need a new manager (Paul Lambert please)

I thought you would need to sell Bent to get money to buy players?

[denphone]

I think Villa need two new wingers and two central defenders as we do have some goalscorers Gabby and Bent and if we can have them two upfront then delivery is all we need to crack and the goals will come not loads but enough to have a better season.

Plus we need a new manager (Paul Lambert please)

Yes l think Lambert would be a very good choice as manager and since you lost Downing and Young the side has lacked good width.

[thenry]

Diame to hold talks with suitors
Senegal international allowed to leave squad for talks

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11682/7782307/Diame-to-hold-talks-with-suitors

[denphone]

Diame to hold talks with suitors
Senegal international allowed to leave squad for talks

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11682/7782307/Diame-to-hold-talks-with-suitors

Just right for your midfield.;)

[thenry]

not sure

[adzii_nufc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18232319

Here we go again.

[denphone]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18232319

Here we go again.

Well lets hope this is not the case because if it is true then Italian football will never recover from another bribery scandal.

[Shadow Demon UK]

Apparently Fernando Llorente has agreed a €25 million transfer with Arsenal and will move in the next few days....


Replacement for Van Persie.

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Also Eden Hazard has made his mind up as to where he is going, but has still told no one.

[denphone]

Apparently Fernando Llorente has agreed a €25 million transfer with Arsenal and will move in the next few days....


Replacement for Van Persie.

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Also Eden Hazard has made his mind up as to where he is going, but has still told no one.

Llorente has excellent technigue for a tall player and is pretty good in the air too and Hazard l suspect will go to one of the Manchester clubs.

[Shadow Demon UK]

I think Hazard will go to Chelsea. Also i don't think the Llorente rumours are true, but we will see...

[Damien]

Llorente rumours seem to have come from no where, it seems one of the sources is a a fake Twitter account. Hazard to Chelsea is all over Twitter but then so was Llorente last night.

[danielf]

Llorente rumours seem to have come from no where, it seems one of the sources is a a fake Twitter account. Hazard to Chelsea is all over Twitter but then so was Llorente last night.

According to Twitter, Messi died after suffering a heart attack in training...

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/the_beautiful_blog/2012/05/fox-sports-tweets-death-of-lionel-messi

[thenry]

idiots

[denphone]

I think Hazard will go to Chelsea. Also i don't think the Llorente rumours are true, but we will see...

Well according to this Hazard is set to seal Chelsea switch.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/28/3132272/breaking-news-hazard-set-to-seal-chelsea-switch

[sherer]

surely something needs to be done in Italy. Wasn't there another scandal in Seria B or lower down this season about match fixing, not it's alleged to be going on in the top flight again.

No doubt UEFA and FIFA will totally ignore this

[Damien]

surely something needs to be done in Italy. Wasn't there another scandal in Seria B or lower down this season about match fixing, not it's alleged to be going on in the top flight again.

No doubt UEFA and FIFA will totally ignore this

I don't know. The Italians seem be handling it and if players and/or clubs are found to be guilty UEFA and FIFA will hit them with bans.

[DocDutch]

Juve got done a couple of seasons ago and relegated to serie c if my memory serves me well. And not allowed to play in Europe either for a while

[Damien]

Hazard has confirmed he is signing for Chelsea.

[sherer]

Hazard has confirmed he is signing for Chelsea.

another one slipped through the net. So Chelsea are getting a stronger player, i'm sure City will too and we will still end up playing Giggs and Scholes at 38 and 39. Yes Scholes still players really well but we need to sign someone to play in the centre and replace him soon

[denphone]

Hazard has confirmed he is signing for Chelsea.

A excellent signing for them.

[thenry]

Thats Torres and Hazard now which has Roman Abramovich written all over it. Part of a rebuild of Chelsea? So much for him reportedly not wanting to pump cash into Chelsea. Looks like he wants to build a super power alongside the new stadium build.

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Serbia are not in the Euro 2012 so I think this should be posted here

Serbia drop forward Adem Ljajic for refusing to sing national anthem before friendly with Spain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/european-championships-2012/9295632/Serbia-drop-forward-Adem-Ljajic-for-refusing-to-sing-national-anthem-before-friendly-with-Spain.html

the same guy who got in a little punch up with his club manager lol....

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88/33678768-football-season-2011-12-a-page-343.html#post35422878

he's also been linked to Arsenal :shocked: no thank you!!! Vargas may be as leftback but I'm unsure whether thats going down the Eboue route again. we already have Eboue mkII in Santos

[Shadow Demon UK]

another one slipped through the net. So Chelsea are getting a stronger player, i'm sure City will too and we will still end up playing Giggs and Scholes at 38 and 39. Yes Scholes still players really well but we need to sign someone to play in the centre and replace him soon

He's not as good as a lot of people are making out (i know its easy to say now he's not signing for us)

Eden Hazard: 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Shinji Kagawa: 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists.

The German league is a better league than the French as well.

[thenry]

Mum tells RVP to stay
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343560/Robin-van-Persie-must-stay-at-Arsenal-say-his-mum-and-wife.html

I’ve got mother of all critics - RVP
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343355/Arsenals-Robin-van-Persie-My-mum-is-the-key-to-all-my-success.html

[denphone]

Mum tells RVP to stay
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343560/Robin-van-Persie-must-stay-at-Arsenal-say-his-mum-and-wife.html

I’ve got mother of all critics - RVP
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4343355/Arsenals-Robin-van-Persie-My-mum-is-the-key-to-all-my-success.html

Well thenry us men must all do what Mum says as its unwise to upset your Mum.:)

[gazzae]

He's not as good as a lot of people are making out (i know its easy to say now he's not signing for us)

Eden Hazard: 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Shinji Kagawa: 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists.

The German league is a better league than the French as well.

While the German league maybe better than the French you haven't taken into account that he scored 50 of those goals and made 30 of those assists playing in the Japanese 2nd division.

[Russ]

Rumours are rife that Rodgers may be approached by the scousers. Hope not. If it doesn't work out he'll never be accepted back plus he'll forever have the stigma of being a former Liverpool manager.

[denphone]

Rumours are rife that Rodgers may be approached by the scousers. Hope not. If it doesn't work out he'll never be accepted back plus he'll forever have the stigma of being a former Liverpool manager.

Christ l am glad you are not his assistant then as he would be out of the job before he had a chance to get his seat warm.:)

[Damien]

Rodgers' odds have plummeted as reports that Liverpool have found their manager coincide with other reports that they have asked permission to talk to him.

[denphone]

Yes its very interesting that the bookies make him 2-1 on suggesting this is a fast moving story in which by tonight we might have more to go by.

[denphone]

Liverpool in Contract Talks with Brendan Rodgers.

http://www.kopsource.com/liverpool-in-contract-talks-with-brendan-rodgers/

[sherer]

He's not as good as a lot of people are making out (i know its easy to say now he's not signing for us)

Eden Hazard: 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Shinji Kagawa: 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists.

The German league is a better league than the French as well.

whilst he might not be as good as everyone says i'd say the following

1) He can't be any worse than Giggs and will surely put in more effort
2) He can improve his game where as Giggs is on the decline.

I'd have taken him, although it's early in the pre-season so plenty of time for deals

[Shadow Demon UK]

While the German league maybe better than the French you haven't taken into account that he scored 50 of those goals and made 30 of those assists playing in the Japanese 2nd division.

Are you telling me the French league is better than the Japanese 2nd division???? ;)


I still think Hazard has a lot to prove, he has basically had one good season with Lille. There is no doubt he has great potential, but so do a lot of other players that clubs are looking at. Some people have let the media circus surrounding Hazard make him the hottest property in football when really he isn't.

[Damien]

Are you telling me the French league is better than the Japanese 2nd division???? ;)


I still think Hazard has a lot to prove, he has basically had one good season with Lille. There is no doubt he has great potential, but so do a lot of other players that clubs are looking at. Some people have let the media circus surrounding Hazard make him the hottest property in football when really he isn't.

Oh he has had many good years at Lille, he has been tracked for years and been amongst the top players in France for the last three or so years winning player of the year for the last two of them.

[TheDaddy]

Juve got done a couple of seasons ago and relegated to serie c if my memory serves me well. And not allowed to play in Europe either for a while

Serie b mate, the had a couple of titles stripped and were band from Europe iirc.

we are in for zaha from place five million plus Baldock, yakubu one million and jaskalinan and McCarthy on frees, mulling over increasing our seven million bid for the heernavan striker to, good business providing we keep green to

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Are you telling me the French league is better than the Japanese 2nd division???? ;)


I still think Hazard has a lot to prove, he has basically had one good season with Lille. There is no doubt he has great potential, but so do a lot of other players that clubs are looking at. Some people have let the media circus surrounding Hazard make him the hottest property in football when really he isn't.

He says his little brother thorgen is better than him

[Russ]

It's not looking good for Rodgers - rumours are rife around here that the deal has been done. I feel sorry for him,he doesn't deserve this.

On a more positive note, ripped from my Facebook this morning...

Didier Drogba's decision to leave Chelsea has resulted in the club releasing 4 medical staff, 2 stretcher bearers and a drama teacher.

[denphone]

It's not looking good for Rodgers - rumours are rife around here that the deal has been done. I feel sorry for him,he doesn't deserve this.

On a more positive note, ripped from my Facebook this morning...

Doesn't deserve what?.:)

[Russ]

To be the manager of this Liverpool team.

[LexDiamond]

Rodgers would be crazy to go to Liverpool :shocked:

[denphone]

To be the manager of this Liverpool team.

But only time will be the judge and jury of whether its a success or not.:)

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Rodgers would be crazy to go to Liverpool :shocked:

Why?.

[LexDiamond]

But only time will be the judge and jury of whether its a success or not.:)

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Why?.

LFC hasn't exactly been a great place for managers. Look at Hodgson. Great at his club before LFC and great job after LFC and then became England manager.

[denphone]

Well confirmation will come in the next 48 hours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

[denphone]

Brendan Rodgers has agreed a deal to become the new manager of Liverpool Football Club.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18235961

Brendan Rodgers has agreed a deal to become the new manager of Liverpool Football Club.

The 39-year-old is understood to have signed a three-year contract at Anfield and his appointment is likely to be officially confirmed within 24 hours.

Liverpool will pay Swansea City between £4m and £5m in compensation to secure the Northern Irishman's services.

[thenry]

you happy den?

[denphone]

you happy den?

Yes l am pretty happy with the appointment and now l will look to see what type of tactics he will play and what players will be coming and out of the club and one suspects there are going to be quite a few changes in the next couple of months.:)

[colin25]

Like most things..wait and see

Not a liverpool supporter..but if they play attractive football..i will watch

[thenry]

Has Kenny left or moved upstairs? Is Louis Van Gaal still on as a director?

[colin25]

Has Kenny left or moved upstairs? Is Louis Van Gaal still on as a director?

I thought louis is not there..yet..and kenny has abdicated

[denphone]

Sources suggest that Robin van Persie has agreed a new contract and will remain with Arsenal.

[thenry]

Sources suggest that Robin van Persie has agreed a new contract and will remain with Arsenal.

please den don't. he's waiting for an overhaul.

btw Dzeko has apparently agreed terms with Bayern?

[Damien]

'sources' is this (http://twitter.com/#!/BarclaysLeague)(http://twitter.com/#!/BarclaysLeague) twitter account. Be very wary. The only people who would know RVP intentions are few and the rest are speculating. Obviously if he signed a new contract quite a few people would know about it but I think more reliable people would know that a random Twitter account.

[colin25]

One of the reasons they are giving on TV for rodgers, was that Swansea took points off of liverpool.

Who hasn't this season? :D

[denphone]

One of the reasons they are giving on TV for rodgers, was that Swansea took points off of liverpool.

Who hasn't this season? :D

Oh dear oh dear oh dear it must have took you all day to think of that one Colin.:D;)

[colin25]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear it must have took you all day to think of that one Colin.:D;)

lol..no..that was easy :D

[thenry]

I'm not entirely sure this is right for anyone, neither Rodgers or Liverpool. Unless things dramatically change its another bent move. The owners seems to want change but will it be accepted? I honestly thought Liverpool would nab Louis Van Gaal as manager.

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Hulk to Chelsea done?

is this account real, if so why isn't it verified :mad:

Givanildo V. Souza ‏@OficialHulk
Thanks to all Chelsea fans, the beautiful messages of support! And I'm sorry for my english hahahah

http://twitter.com/#!/OficialHulk/status/207673310455148544

[denphone]

I'm not entirely sure this is right for anyone, neither Rodgers or Liverpool. Unless things dramatically change its another bent move. The owners seems to want change but will it be accepted? I honestly thought Liverpool would nab Louis Van Gaal as manager.

And why do you think its not right for anyone?.

[thenry]

And why do you think its not right for anyone?.

because your mob fail to accept a lot of things. i'm not sure whether thats down to being dumb or not having the ability to put down whatever the manager sets out

[denphone]

because your mob fail to accept a lot of things. i'm not sure whether thats down to being dumb or not having the ability to put down whatever the manager sets out

Absolute hogwash especially given that you have no ideas of the inner workings of Liverpool FC and what goes on between manager and player.:nono::nono:

[thenry]

Hulk to Chelsea done?

is this account real, if so why isn't it verified :mad:

Givanildo V. Souza ‏@OficialHulk
Thanks to all Chelsea fans, the beautiful messages of support! And I'm sorry for my english hahahah

http://twitter.com/#!/OficialHulk/status/207673310455148544

think its clear to see now that Roberto will get given the managers job and Roman will buy what he wants. perfect match.

[gazzae]

Time to post this again? ;)

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/356309473.jpg?key=604390&Expires=1338400234&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=zM00~u30jDUAzKelJvXvWt-LFaP6Qv6qJRUjNHO7PWsS-tnBSqVA9X45dNHse77v1rC~jXOsqHVsvZsBqjS-etQmkCWOm7-UrVk~6itDWPwgiP6RSU-vJYMcIR8yVDSQymkxEHN-CTl47aBu4cCZszPs7RN5aTCZzb99fGcMwNM_

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Check the DVD ;) for those with poor eyesight it's Moneyball

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/05/4.jpg

[Damien]

https://twitter.com/bbcsport_david/status/207884082447790080

Claims Van Persie has agreed new deal are wrong. Gazidis met with agent at Emirates on Mon - no developments, still no contract offered

[colin25]

BBC Sport reporter David Ornstein tweets: "Claims that Robin van Persie has agreed a new Arsenal deal are wrong. Ivan Gazidis met with his agent at Emirates on Monday. No developments, still no contract offered."

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think its clear to see now that Roberto will get given the managers job and Roman will buy what he wants. perfect match.

If they get hazard, hulk...who would complain?

[Russ]

Gutted about Rodgers. Vorm, Taylor, Sinclair, they'll be next to leave as I doubt we'll find a manager who will get as much out of the team as he did. And with him gone and those players out, we should be relegated by Christmas :(

[colin25]

Gutted about Rodgers. Vorm, Taylor, Sinclair, they'll be next to leave as I doubt we'll find a manager who will get as much out of the team as he did. And with him gone and those players out, we should be relegated by Christmas :(

On the positive side..wait..there isn't any :(

[Russ]

On the positive side..wait..there isn't any :(

No no, there is one positive. We're in the Premiership and Cardiff aren't :D

[thenry]

If they get hazard, hulk...who would complain?

i'm not saying anyone would complain. im just raising the point of Roman wanting to buy and Roberto happy to go along with it etc.

[Cobbydaler]

We've got Rodriguez from Burnley, seems a decent signing...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18246845

[denphone]

We've got Rodriguez from Burnley, seems a decent signing...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18246845

Bit pricey at £7 million though.:shocked:

[thenry]

amazing isn't it that fees apply according to certain sections of the league

[TheDaddy]

lol..no..that was easy :D

Easier than taking points of Liverpool... :)

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Gutted about Rodgers. Vorm, Taylor, Sinclair, they'll be next to leave as I doubt we'll find a manager who will get as much out of the team as he did. And with him gone and those players out, we should be relegated by Christmas :(

Sinclair's only got a year left as well, might put the deal for Siguardson or whom ever in doubt as well if he hasn't put pen to paper yet.

[Russ]

Sigs is still due to arrive for his medical tomorrow according to the local radio station news.

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Actually I was thinking about this, Chelsea are more than likely to bump Di Matteo off soon. He's young and needs experience, as long as Huw Jenkins could promise him a decent budget then maybe he could end up at the Liberty for a few years.

[denphone]

Easier than taking points of Liverpool... :)

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Sinclair's only got a year left as well, might put the deal for Siguardson or whom ever in doubt as well if he hasn't put pen to paper yet.

Its alright ladies and gentlemen the have a pop at Liverpool day is nearly over.:):D

[colin25]

I thought this summer would be great for transfers...just didn't expect it would involve so many managers :D

[denphone]

I thought this summer would be great for transfers...just didn't expect it would involve so many managers :D

Have you applied for a managerial job yet young Colin.;)

[Russ]

Its alright ladies and gentlemen the have a pop at Liverpool day is nearly over.:):D

'Day'?? We've been doing it for years! And it's deserved too - they make it so easy :)

[denphone]

'Day'?? We've been doing it for years! And it's deserved too - they make it so easy :)

Fair enough but lets increase the have a pop Man Utd days while we are at it.;):D

[thenry]

running before you walk or even crawl I see den ?

[TheDaddy]

Have you applied for a managerial job yet young Colin.;)

He was on the shortlist for Liverpool along with every other Tom, Dick and Jurgen that's ever kicked a football.

[Mal]

Fair enough but lets increase the have a pop Man Utd days while we are at it.;):DThat's what you do normally

[denphone]

running before you walk or even crawl I see den ?

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

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That's what you do normally

Its called constructive criticism or is that not allowed.:)

[Mal]

:bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

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Its called constructive criticism or is that not allowed.:)Well you appear to want it banned for Liverpool

[denphone]

He was on the shortlist for Liverpool along with every other Tom, Dick and Jurgen that's ever kicked a football.

You missed good old Sam out.:)

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Well you appear to want it banned for Liverpool

Calm down dear its just good old banter.;)

[TheDaddy]

You missed good old Sam out.:)



He turned you down...

[Mal]

Calm down dear its just good old banter.;)Heed your own words ;)

[denphone]

He turned you down...

:rofl::rofl:

[thenry]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/05/1.gif

[Cobbydaler]

He was on the shortlist for Liverpool along with every other Tom, Dick and Jurgen that's ever kicked a football.

You missed good old Sam out.:And 'Arry... ;)

[TheDaddy]

And 'Arry... ;)

He was never a contender, shoo-in for the England job don't you know...

[Cobbydaler]

He was never a contender, shoo-in for the England job don't you know...
Joke: Tom, Dick and 'Arry... ;)

[TheDaddy]

Joke: ... ;)

So was mine ;)

[thenry]

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[Damien]

Arsenal need to wait until, I think, 2014 because they can leverage that into money. It's why Champions League was so important this year because this now effectively bridges the gap before the fair play regulations come in and our sponsorship deals can be redone.

[LexDiamond]

It has already begun for for poor Rodgers -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18269858

[denphone]

It has already begun for for poor Rodgers -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18269858

The best idea is to ignore former players opinions as if they are so clever then why ain't they managers but of course any Tom, Dick and Harry can call himself a pundit or expert and then think they know more then the manager it seems.

[Pog66]

Paul Lambert to Villa seems to be gaining some traction :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18275337

A shame for Norwich but was always going to happen sooner or later..

[Russ]

Ian Holloway seems to be the odds-on favourite to replace Rodgers at the moment...not sure if such a loose-cannon is what we need right now.

[Pog66]

Paul Lambert to Villa seems to be gaining some traction :(

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18275337

A shame for Norwich but was always going to happen sooner or later..

slightly more now that it is been confirmed he has resigned as Norwich manager...

http://www.canaries.co.uk/page/NewsDetails/0,,10355~2793911,00.html

[denphone]

Ian Holloway seems to be the odds-on favourite to replace Rodgers at the moment...not sure if such a loose-cannon is what we need right now.

Plymouth Argyle Supporters have never forgiven him for doing a U-Turn for leaving us and going to Blackpool so we know exactly what he is like and l would not trust him as far as l could throw him.:(:td:

[LexDiamond]

Plymouth Argyle Supporters have never forgiven him for doing a U-Turn for leaving us and going to Blackpool so we know exactly what he is like and l would not trust him as far as l could throw him.:(:td:

I've never really liked him. His time in the EPL was just one big advert for his own rants. 90% of the time his interviews didn't even make sense.

[TheDaddy]

The best idea is to ignore former players opinions as if they are so clever then why ain't they managers but of course any Tom, Dick and Harry can call himself a pundit or expert and then think they know more then the manager it seems.

I think you'll find Dick's make the best pundits

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I've never really liked him. His time in the EPL was just one big advert for his own rants. 90% of the time his interviews didn't even make sense.

No I'm not a fan, he used to amuse me at first but he soon got tiresome imo

[Uncle Peter]

Lawro is only given airspace to make the others look reasonably intelligent

[Cobbydaler]

Ian Holloway seems to be the odds-on favourite to replace Rodgers at the moment...not sure if such a loose-cannon is what we need right now.
Now Martinez' assistant:
Graeme Jones has emerged as the clear favourite to succeed Brendan Rodgers as Swansea City manager.
Bookmakers have suspended betting on Jones, the Wigan Athletic assistant manager
Link (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18287718)

[thenry]

Ibrahim Afellay could be avaiable for as little as 6mil.. :shocked: bloody steal, could be the bargain of the season. Arsene sign him. Van Persies already said he's one of the not so many he's got a connection with, similar to the one he had with Cesc. me thinks thats a hint. just sign him Arsene, we'll cross the not being played bridge of other players, Gerinvho!! when we get there.

[denphone]

Ibrahim Afellay could be avaiable for as little as 6mil.. :shocked: bloody steal, could be the bargain of the season. Arsene sign him. Van Persies already said he's one of the not so many he's got a connection with, similar to the one he had with Cesc. me thinks thats a hint. just sign him Arsene, we'll cross the not being played bridge of other players, Gerinvho!! when we get there.

Cheap at 6 million.

[LexDiamond]

The best idea is to ignore former players opinions as if they are so clever then why ain't they managers but of course any Tom, Dick and Harry can call himself a pundit or expert and then think they know more then the manager it seems.

IMHO one if the reasons LFC have so much turbulance is because the media is full of LFC former players that always want to feed into the doom and gloom and are very bias, e.g. Kenny did no better than Roy all things considered but was not really villified to the same extent.

Rodgers is just what LFC need. A young manager that could be around for years that has an attacking philosophy that the team can now be built around in a positive manner.

[denphone]

IMHO one if the reasons LFC have so much turbulance is because the media is full of LFC former players that always want to feed into the doom and gloom and are very bias, e.g. Kenny did no better than Roy all things considered but was not really villified to the same extent.

Rodgers is just what LFC need. A young manager that could be around for years that has an attacking philosophy that the team can now be built around in a positive manner.

Yes l have to agree with a lot of your sentiment but what irritates me is Brendan Rogers has not been officialy unveiled yet but Lawrenson and Aldridge are already making their opinions known.

[LexDiamond]

Yes l have to agree with a lot of your sentiment but what irritates me is Brendan Rogers has not been officialy unveiled yet but Lawrenson and Aldridge are already making their opinions known.

We still haven't heard from the genius that is Alan Hansen :D

[denphone]

We still haven't heard from the genius that is Alan Hansen :D

l think l will put cotton wool in my ears when that happens.:D

[Pog66]

Rodgers is just what LFC need. A young manager that could be around for years that has an attacking philosophy that the team can now be built around in a positive manner.

...assuming he is given the chance - if by Dec LFC are languishing in mid table will the knives be out?

btw, I've no agenda here - would like to some young British blood making it at teh bigger clubs and hope Rodgers does well

[Uncle Peter]

Well he certainly gave a good account of he way he goes about his business in the press conference this morning. Also, when Ayre was farting about around the houses with his usual word play when the director of football issue came up Brendan Rogers just cut him short and got straight to the point with no bull which is a refeshing change to what we, as fans have been forced to consume since Rafa was moved on.

Either way the club is in a better position than it was on many levels compared with the periods when both Hodgson and Kenny were appointed so I'm sure he will be afforded the time to implement his plans.

[Damien]

Rodgers out!!!!

[denphone]

Rodgers out!!!!

:nono::nono::)

[LexDiamond]

...assuming he is given the chance - if by Dec LFC are languishing in mid table will the knives be out?

btw, I've no agenda here - would like to some young British blood making it at teh bigger clubs and hope Rodgers does well

That will be almost certainly what happens as LFC are a mid table team. Its just fans and ex LFC pundits that seem to think otherwise.

My guess is - same as Roy Hodgson scenario following replacement by an ex LFC associate who is mediocre but is 'accepted'.

Reina already came out and belittled Rodgers already.

[denphone]

Reina already came out and belittled Rodgers already.

Proof?.

[thenry]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/brendan-rodgers-hard-liverpool-task-855932

[LexDiamond]

Proof?.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7789780/Reina-wanted-Rafa-return

[thenry]

here we go talking.. Mancini speaking again

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7790238/Mancini-Cavani-too-costly

[denphone]

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7789780/Reina-wanted-Rafa-return

Really thats nothing more then a personal opinion by one player and l don't expect BR will have any problems whatsoever with Pepe Reina or any of the other players.:)

[Uncle Peter]

Meanwhile in the real world and not the one inhabited by the Daily Manc and the Oldham Echo

Pepe Reina‏@reina_official

Looking much forward to work under Brendan - did great things at swansea and happy he's joined us here at liverpool.


https://twitter.com/#!/reina_official

[denphone]

Meanwhile in the real world and not the one inhabited by the Daily Manc and the Oldham Echo

Pepe Reina‏@reina_official

Looking much forward to work under Brendan - did great things at swansea and happy he's joined us here at liverpool.


https://twitter.com/#!/reina_official

l thought thenry and Lex were getting a bit excited.:D;)

[thenry]

i just googled for a source lol it was all lex :o:

[colin25]

here we go talking.. Mancini speaking again

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7790238/Mancini-Cavani-too-costly

I think he is merely saying as it is...whilst I'm not sure what wenger is saying.

Personally I think the attack could use new blood, but only if we got rid of one, and not before other areas are strengthen.

Defense has been my bane last season, I got scared everytime someone ran at our defense..it isn't as solid as the stats show.

And maybe a midfielder.[COLOR="Silver"]


Oh, and yes, I would happily take RVP, if he wanted to come..who wouldn't? :D

[denphone]

Naughty Lex.:naughty::nono::naughty:

[LexDiamond]

Naughty Lex.:naughty::nono::naughty:

Don't shoot the messenger :(

[thenry]

League Cup to be rebranded Capital One Cup in new deal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18283519

[LexDiamond]

League Cup to be rebranded Capital One Cup in new deal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18283519

Arsenal will win the Capital One Cup next year :D

[denphone]

Arsenal will win the Capital One Cup next year :D

Then perhaps you should have a bet along with thenry.:)

[thenry]

listen i've just recouped my £1. leave me alone lol

[LexDiamond]

listen i've just recouped my £1. leave me alone lol

Make the bet. Its a sure thing. Arsenal have the best deadwood in the land to play in this competition :D

[thenry]

funny. not for long mate.. i hope :erm:

[Damien]

Arsenal will never associate themselves with Capital One, far too financially prudent.

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Put your hands up if your team is in the Champions League this year!

*puts hand up*

[thenry]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/06/29.gif

[denphone]

Arsenal will never associate themselves with Capital One, far too financially prudent.

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Put your hands up if your team is in the Champions League this year!

*puts hand up*

Ottawan - Hands Up

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noHlrgPKX5U

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listen i've just recouped my £1. leave me alone lol

Oh dear you are very tempermental today. ;)

[Russ]

*Phew*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18299155

[denphone]

*Phew*

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18299155

l doubt whether he would have gone back to Swansea anyway Russ to purchase players as he does not seem that type of man.:)

[LexDiamond]

funny. not for long mate.. i hope :erm:

There were no takers for last years leavers and they had to go out on loan. I hope its better luck with this years rubbish.

[thenry]

things do look promising this year. theres already clubs sniffing around. so long as players like Bendtner dont still think their God and demand silly figures etc.

[LexDiamond]

things do look promising this year. theres already clubs sniffing around. so long as players like Bendtner dont still think their God and demand silly figures etc.

Some of the players we have though, e.g. Squillaci are just terrible though. I hope the likes of Denilson etc leave as they ate decent enough but Arsenal have really made them look terrible and as it transpired last season, teams obviously want proof that they aeen't the flops that Wenger made them.

[thenry]

the whole deadwood bunch as 1 are mate. they all need fresh starts under new management. we just need to hope fees can be agreed all round to then go ahead with a overhaul sorting things out properly.

[LexDiamond]

the whole deadwood bunch as 1 are mate. they all need fresh starts under new management. we just need to hope fees can be agreed all round to then go ahead with a overhaul sorting things out properly.

Thats my thinking too. I think it would make huge difference to the squad just if the deadwood wasn't there.

[colin25]

Thats my thinking too. I think it would make huge difference to the squad just if the deadwood wasn't there.

If you get rid of the deadwood...that just leaves wood :D

[LexDiamond]

If you get rid of the deadwood...that just leaves wood :D

This years wood is next years deadwood :D

[iadom]

Meanwhile in the real world and not the one inhabited by the Daily Manc and the Oldham Echo



Its the Oldham Chronicle actually, and they have no interest whatsoever in what happens in Scousland, never gets a mention. :p:

Except when Lancashire are playing cricket there of course.:cool:

[dazed&confused]

[QUOTE=
Rodgers is just what LFC need. A young manager that could be around for years that has an attacking philosophy that the team can now be built around in a positive manner.[/QUOTE]

We thought that with AVB
BEWARE
:devsmoke::devsmoke::devsmoke:

P.S. Hands up to CL
(even though we were 6th ;)

[colin25]

We thought that with AVB
BEWARE
:devsmoke::devsmoke::devsmoke:

P.S. Hands up to CL
(even though we were 6th ;)

lol definitely dazed and confused

[Shadow Demon UK]

Apparently United have agreed a fee with Crewe for Nick Powell, its just personal terms (which i expect will not be a problem) and a medical to go through. I haven't seen much of him but he is very highly rated.

[denphone]

Apparently United have agreed a fee with Crewe for Nick Powell, its just personal terms (which i expect will not be a problem) and a medical to go through. I haven't seen much of him but he is very highly rated.

Yes l have seen him a bit and he is a very talented player but as we all know talent is one thing but fulfilling talent is another matter in itself.:)

[TheDaddy]

Apparently United have agreed a fee with Crewe for Nick Powell, its just personal terms (which i expect will not be a problem) and a medical to go through. I haven't seen much of him but he is very highly rated.

He scored the goal that took them up iirc, he shouldn't go imo, he's not going to get much of a look in at the first team

[denphone]

Aston Villa appoint Paul Lambert from Norwich City as new boss.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18307066

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Ajax defender Jan Vertonghen has revealed that he could complete a move to Tottenham within the next few days.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7791046/Vertonghen-Spurs-move-close

[adzii_nufc]

Danny Guthrie, Peter Lovenkrands and Alan Smith are amongst a bunch of players released by Newcastle United as we look to strengthen ourselves with younger and more talented players.

Guthrie was a 3 good games a season guy, Smith was just plain rubbish and Lovenkrands was past it some time ago.

[denphone]

Chelsea Close To Sealing Hulk Transfer.

http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/soccerplay.net/32114/chelsea-close-to-seal-hulk-transfer

[sherer]

Chelsea Close To Sealing Hulk Transfer.

http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/soccerplay.net/32114/chelsea-close-to-seal-hulk-transfer

surely they should sort out the manager first

[denphone]

surely they should sort out the manager first

Well maybe secretly they have already sorted out their manager.:)

[denphone]

Swans' Jones deal breaks down.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1AyJIE/www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7793311/

Perhaps Russ can put himself forward for the job.:D

[denphone]

Dutchman ends six-year spell at Anfield.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11669/7793659/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

[denphone]

Alan Thompson sacked as Celtic first team coach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18319883

[Derek]

Alan Thompson sacked as Celtic first team coach.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18319883

Rumour has it he had turned up for work 4 times in a week in an unusual and inexplicable state. Sober. ;)

[Russ]

Swans' Jones deal breaks down.

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/1AyJIE/www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7793311/

Perhaps Russ can put himself forward for the job.:D

I'm not too bothered. I'm still hoping we get Di Matteo once Chelsea bump him off for a bigger name.

[denphone]

Rumour has it he had turned up for work 4 times in a week in an unusual and inexplicable state. Sober. ;)

Well that leaves me to the conclusion that the other three days were spent sobering him up with black coffee.

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I'm not too bothered. I'm still hoping we get Di Matteo once Chelsea bump him off for a bigger name.

Well the talk is Chelsea are determined to get Pep so you might well be in luck.:)

[denphone]

Joey Barton attacked outside a Liverpool nightclub.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/04/joey-barton-attacked-liverpool-nightclub?CMP=twt_gu

[thenry]

Koscielny talks up M'Vila to Arsenal and backs France team-mate to triumph in the Premier League

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/04/3147475/koscielny-talks-up-mvila-to-arsenal-backs-france-team-mate

:D

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Chelsea Plot Ambitious Move to Sign Arsenal Pair

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/06/03/chelsea-plot-ambitious-move-to-sign-arsenal-pair/

they can take Theo if they show us the monies but not Sagna :D

[denphone]

Koscielny talks up M'Vila to Arsenal and backs France team-mate to triumph in the Premier League

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/04/3147475/koscielny-talks-up-mvila-to-arsenal-backs-france-team-mate

:D

Well its no cast iron certainty thenry that he is going to go to Arsenal yet.:)

---------- Post added at 19:05 ---------- Previous post was at 19:02 ----------

Koscielny talks up M'Vila to Arsenal and backs France team-mate to triumph in the Premier League

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/06/04/3147475/koscielny-talks-up-mvila-to-arsenal-backs-france-team-mate

:D

---------- Post added at 19:02 ---------- Previous post was at 19:01 ----------

Chelsea Plot Ambitious Move to Sign Arsenal Pair

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/06/03/chelsea-plot-ambitious-move-to-sign-arsenal-pair/

they can take Theo if they show us the monies but not Sagna :D

Really l am quite surprised you would want to get rid of a talented English player especially given that clubs will have to abide by the English quota as well.

[thenry]

hes too hit and miss. if they throw money then we can reinvest. Liverpool are interested too.. apperently

[Arthurgray50@blu]

It seems that we have Yes man as England manager.

Hodgson has stated that Ferdinand wasn't selected as a matter of football tactics, but we all know that he couldn't have Ferdinand and John Terry in the same dressing room, but to me if Ferdinand wasn't selected then neither should have Terry.

The FA are hypicrites.

[denphone]

hes too hit and miss. if they throw money then we can reinvest. Liverpool are interested too.. apperently

l am not sure he is on the top of Liverpool's list.

[TheDaddy]

l am not sure he is on the top of Liverpool's list.

I think he is, if Rogers Is trying to replicate his Swansea team he'll need a Sinclair type player and Theo is better than him to boot imo

[MalteseFalcon]

Personally, although Terry can be a good player, I still mantain it is wrong of Hodgson and FA to allow a player facing trial for racist abuse to travel to a country where he will most likely be treated as a hero by the bigots there in Ukraine.

[LondonRoad]

Personally, although Terry can be a good player, I still mantain it is wrong of Hodgson and FA to allow a player facing trial for racist abuse to travel to a country where he will most likely be treated as a hero by the bigots there in Ukraine.

Innocent until proven Guilty is one of the bedrocks of our system.

[denphone]

Innocent until proven Guilty is one of the bedrocks of our system.

Seconded.

[MalteseFalcon]

Well I'm sorry, but I think the evidence is overwhelming. Course, it doesn't help that I don't like him either.

[LondonRoad]

Well I'm sorry, but I think the evidence is overwhelming. Course, it doesn't help that I don't like him either.

I'd agree with that but until the court rubber stamps what we already know ;) that dumbass law has him labelled as innocent.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The innocent till proven guilty is a farce in my book, Terry is facing a court regarding racism.

He should have been dropped from the squad till proven innocent, you cannot have one rule for one, and then another.

What is wrong with the FA and Hodgson to come out and say it was for football reasons, Ferdinand has more experience and is much needed, and for Paul Merson to come out and say it is wrong for his agent to come out and say what he did, he cannot talk. Look at the shame he brought on his club.

To me it looks like The FA and Hodgson are backing Terry, which is a disgrace in itself - the CPS would not have taken it to court if there was no basis to it.

[LondonRoad]

the CPS would not have taken it to court if there was no basis to it.

That doesn't mean to day he's guilty of anything. A CPS prosecution does not automatically lead to a conviction.

edit: latest hate crime figures: http://www.report-it.org.uk/crown_prosecution_service_release_hate_crime_re

"In 2010-11 there were 10,823 guilty pleas out of 12,651 convictions and 15,284 prosecutions overall."


So of the 4,500 who didn't plead guilty, less than half were convicted.

[thenry]

United agree Kagawa deal

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7795893/United-agree-Kagawa-deal

good news for Utd

[denphone]

United agree Kagawa deal

www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7795893/United-agree-Kagawa-deal

good news for Utd

They still lack that inventive playmaker in midfield as Paul Scholes is 37 now and how many games is he going to play in a season.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The Terry situation is this, if it was Joe Bloggs in the street, and our employer found out, we would be in serious trouble as racism is treated very seriously.

So why on earth is a footballer treated any differently, already we have people saying that black players should not be going to Poland in fear of trouble, why is it that the FA allowing Terry going as he is facing a racism charge.

Racism is a serious business, and it appears that the FA are doing this 'respect stuff' but in this case they are not, they have basically told Ferdinand that he cannot play for 'football reasons', which between the lines are saying we don't want you there in case it cuases trouble with Terry- so where is the respect campaign now.

[LondonRoad]

The Terry situation is this, if it was Joe Bloggs in the street, and our employer found out, we would be in serious trouble as racism is treated very seriously.


You've got a good point Arthur. (Never though I'd use that phrase!;))

Even if i hadn't been convicted of an offence I suspect my employer may suspend me while an investigation takes place if there was a suggestion that I'd been involved in a hate crime.

[Mal]

My employer would do the same, suspend me until they found out the outcome.

[thenry]

Russ what do you think of Dennis Bergkamp as Swansea manager?

[MalteseFalcon]

Has Bergkamp gone to Swansea? Pleased for him if he has.

[denphone]

l cannot see that happening.

[Russ]

Not sure. He's untested in the PL. I'm more in favour of Di Matteo really. I can't see him staying on at Chelsea, I'm sure Roman wants a bigger name with more experience.

Apparently Michael Laudrup is in the frame (although his people have denied it) and that would be interesting but again I'd rather a manager with PL experience who will hit the ground running.

[TheDaddy]

Innocent until proven Guilty is one of the bedrocks of our system.

Yes and suspending someone until the results of an investigation are in isn't exactly unheard of, that is why he isn't captain anymore after all, the thought of him by done miracle lifting the.trophy is to much even for the fa to bare, yet it's ok for him to still go.

[thenry]

Has Bergkamp gone to Swansea? Pleased for him if he has.

no but Skybet has slashed odds or something.

l cannot see that happening.

to be honest neither can i. i'd of thought he'd spend more time at Ajax before going solo.

Not sure. He's untested in the PL. I'm more in favour of Di Matteo really. I can't see him staying on at Chelsea, I'm sure Roman wants a bigger name with more experience.

Apparently Michael Laudrup is in the frame (although his people have denied it) and that would be interesting but again I'd rather a manager with PL experience who will hit the ground running.

true, I'm not entirely sure how his time has gone at Ajax, all I keep reading is he's still learning.

I think your going to be disappointed with Roberto. Romans found it hard to buy players to suit a manager, high profile, it would have to be Pep but hes out for atleast a year and anywho he'll be Arsenal manager when he comes back :p: :D anywho I do think Roman will hand Roberto a contract. Its a good match up, Roman buys and gets his thrill of buying while Roberto brings it altogether.

[denphone]

Mikel Arteta to speak with Arsenal over improved contract.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324116

[thenry]

:rolleyes:

[Russ]

Russ what do you think of Dennis Bergkamp as Swansea manager?

Well I wasn't sure but now the local radio has him as odd-on favourite - http://www.swanseasound.co.uk/news/local/swans-bergkamp-bookies-favourite/

[denphone]

:rolleyes:

l thought you liked him.:)

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

The Terry situation is this, if it was Joe Bloggs in the street, and our employer found out, we would be in serious trouble as racism is treated very seriously.

So why on earth is a footballer treated any differently, already we have people saying that black players should not be going to Poland in fear of trouble, why is it that the FA allowing Terry going as he is facing a racism charge.

Racism is a serious business, and it appears that the FA are doing this 'respect stuff' but in this case they are not, they have basically told Ferdinand that he cannot play for 'football reasons', which between the lines are saying we don't want you there in case it cuases trouble with Terry- so where is the respect campaign now.

Arthur... too many of your posts get slated on this forum, often because of the content, but I have to see this is absolutely spot on! Well said!

[adzii_nufc]

I'm happy that Ferdinand is not going. I don't care for what reason. but Euro talk has it's own thread.

Cissé pledges future to Newcastle, ends all transfer talk from Madrid and various other clubs.

[thenry]

Well I wasn't sure but now the local radio has him as odd-on favourite - http://www.swanseasound.co.uk/news/local/swans-bergkamp-bookies-favourite/

itll be interesting to see how he gets on if this comes off

l thought you liked him.:)

i do. hes been great but one season and he wants a payrise. tell you the truth i wouldnt care if our payroll wasnt so messed up.

[denphone]

itll be interesting to see how he gets on if this comes off



i do. hes been great but one season and he wants a payrise. tell you the truth i wouldnt care if our payroll wasnt so messed up.

In what way is the payroll messed up?.

[thenry]

deadwood on figures they dont deserve

[Uncle Peter]

deadwood on figures they dont deserve

Just be thankful that you don't have Joe Cole on 80 grand a week

[denphone]

Just be thankful that you don't have Joe Cole on 80 grand a week

Yes l wonder how many games he will play next season for us.

[Uncle Peter]

Yes l wonder how many games he will play next season for us.

I expect it will be a number containing no more than one syllable.

[denphone]

I expect it will be a number containing no more than one syllable.

Does that include subs appearances.:)

[sir_drinks_alot]

it's a very sad day for football when it comes down to this sort of thing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804

[Russ]

Dinks!! Good to have you back!!

To be honest anything Cardiff do makes it a sad day for football.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Its the thing of the times now that Cardiff have to change colours.

As l have said before, Money speaks in football, everything connected to a club now involves 'how much money we can make' its like Spurs for example.

If and when Spurs build this new stadium, they plan to change the name of the ground in the means to make money out of it.

Trouble is, it won't change the price of entry.

[denphone]

it's a very sad day for football when it comes down to this sort of thing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804

These people who make this type of decision need to be shot.:td::sniper:

[Russ]

It's all one-upmanship. Swansea built a brand new 20,000 seater stadium, Cardiff build a bigger one. Swansea get in to the Premiership, Cardiff want to do something like this.

The idea is to make Cardiff more marketable (they're also changing their name from the Bluebirds to the Red Dragons) and the owners have promised to pump £100m in to the club for going along with this. As a Swans fan I love to watch Cardiff fail but I see both sides of this. Traditional fans don't want such a radical change however £100m being put in to a club (and presumably a sizeable chunk going on players) that's not even Premiership quality is pretty impressive.

[colin25]

and having a welsh red dragon isn't a bad marketing image..even if you were blue before

[sherer]

very sad day and I hope the fans make a statement with their feet and don't turn up and don't buy the new kit either. You can't change tradition and if they wanted they could have made the red kit the away kit

[Damien]

The owners are morons. Cardiff are not going to become popular in the far east because they wear red. The owners have looked at the clubs that do well in Asia (United, Liverpool, Arsenal) and have concluded it must the be shirt colour! There are other reasons those clubs are well known internationally....

[danielf]

The owners are morons. Cardiff are not going to become popular in the far east because they wear red. The owners have looked at the clubs that do well in Asia (United, Liverpool, Arsenal) and have concluded it must the be shirt colour! There are other reasons those clubs are well known internationally....

The colour red symbolized luck and good fortune in China and some other Asian countries. There are certainly other reasons, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the shirt colour contributes.

[thenry]

It was Ivan time tonight. They know the payroll is messed but Arsenes ethos is to have minimum superstars along with packed upcomers or something. I dont know to be honest. i just hope the overhaul will happen. we could easily sign players that dont cost 30mil but it all depends whether Arsene finally wakes up and gets rid of players robbing the club contributing to nothing.

do i hold faith. well look we've got Denilson out on loan at Sao Paulo. a few mill will do for him yet the deal is still not done! instead he has 1 more year left on his contract and hes talking of the loan being extended.

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Has Daniel Levys mum passed away? (twitter. my advanced apologies for asking if its not true)

[denphone]

Incredibly sad news from Spain where Manolo Preciado dies from heart attack just 24 hours after being appointed as Villarreal's new boss.:(


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1088835/villarreal's-manolo-preciado-passes-away?passing&cc=5739

[Damien]

It was Ivan time tonight. They know the payroll is messed but Arsenes ethos is to have minimum superstars along with packed upcomers or something. I dont know to be honest. i just hope the overhaul will happen. we could easily sign players that dont cost 30mil but it all depends whether Arsene finally wakes up and gets rid of players robbing the club contributing to nothing.

It's less about 'Arsene waking up' and more about the time it takes to turn it around. Ivan said in the meeting last night that they are addressing the wage structure but it will take a few years and they are not going to renew contracts for players that do not play. He also said we have to await improvement in commercial deals and FFP before we can compete with the best teams again, which is true, they had banked on the new stadium but then Chelsea and City came along and blew that advantage out of the water.

Quite interesting is the suggestion Fabregas refused to play to get the move to Barcelona to happen.

[denphone]

Manchester United start battle for Modric with £22m bid.

http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/01fbe772-cfcb-4bb1-a2fa-1c0e14dc3e65/?source=twitter

Not looking good for Spurs fans it seems.

[adzii_nufc]

Incredibly sad news from Spain where Manolo Preciado dies from heart attack just 24 hours after being appointed as Villarreal's new boss.:(


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1088835/villarreal's-manolo-preciado-passes-away?passing&cc=5739

Shocking indeed :(

[denphone]

Di Matteo close to landing Chelsea job as Guardiola pursuit seems to have failed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155588/Roberto-Di-Matteo-close-Chelseas-manager.html#ixzz1x6Ql6QCR

[thenry]

Incredibly sad news from Spain where Manolo Preciado dies from heart attack just 24 hours after being appointed as Villarreal's new boss.:(


http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1088835/villarreal's-manolo-preciado-passes-away?passing&cc=5739

RIP

Manchester United start battle for Modric with £22m bid.

http://sulia.com/channel/soccer/f/01fbe772-cfcb-4bb1-a2fa-1c0e14dc3e65/?source=twitter

Not looking good for Spurs fans it seems.

hardly surprising. I doubt Bale will sign a new deal and theres talk of Harry unsettled too, not happy which is reliable info (not all about his contract)

Di Matteo close to landing Chelsea job as Guardiola pursuit seems to have failed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155588/Roberto-Di-Matteo-close-Chelseas-manager.html#ixzz1x6Ql6QCR

told you :D

[MalteseFalcon]

That death in Spain was a massive shock, literally just seen the news. Such a tragic loss.

People in football seem to be having heart attacks more frequently now or is it me?

[denphone]

Steve Clarke will be appointed head coach at West Bromwich Albion within the next 24 hours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18344557

[dazed&confused]

Di Matteo close to landing Chelsea job as Guardiola pursuit seems to have failed.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2155588/Roberto-Di-Matteo-close-Chelseas-manager.html#ixzz1x6Ql6QCR

Fingers crossed Den - He's the fans' choice

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I heard a strong rumour that ESPN and AL Jazeera TV are joining forces to beat Sky for all the football rights.

There will be some battle if this does happen, as if l am not wrong the last time there was a bidding war, Al Jazeera said that they would bid big time for a jewel in the crown of Premier League football.

[denphone]

I heard a strong rumour that ESPN and AL Jazeera TV are joining forces to beat Sky for all the football rights.

There will be some battle if this does happen, as if l am not wrong the last time there was a bidding war, Al Jazeera said that they would bid big time for a jewel in the crown of Premier League football.

And that rumour you hear is not going to happen as Sky will get the majority of rights with ESPN getting rights to 38 matchs a season.

[thenry]

ESPN want more prem games. if they are joining forces then they must have an international thing brewing as al jazeera has nothing but a news channel in the UK.

Sky will try push for more games. not sure whats going to happen to 3pm kick offs and packages available. the demand is high. the money is just going up. growth or awareness of the league. PR etc. etc. ?

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Aljazeera said the last time these games came up that they wanted to challenge for football -which popular in the far east.

BUT, this will benefit armchair football fans, Sky are far to expensive and it will be great if Sky get a bruising.

[colin25]

If Aljazeera and ESPN get it, how does it benefit us?

Depends what they charge, and they may well charge a premium for a football channel.

Personally, I don't think Sky's charge is that bad. I prefer to pay nothing, but suspect that will never happen.

[thenry]

you might be getting mixed up with Englands rights and the rest of the world. Sky will always have their strongehold here. its international or areas rights aljazeera want and with ESPN they could work together to push for more. the appeal is only growing. they get to broadcast 3pm fixtures like Setanta Ireland.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/07/euro-2012-holland-racist-abuse?newsfeed=true (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/07/euro-2012-holland-racist-abuse?newsfeed=true)

Suprisingly enough UEFA didn't hear it :S

[denphone]

Come on Saaf you know UEFA is run by idiots so what else can you expect.

[Russ]

Reports are saying United are after Modric - didn't SAF learn anything from buying Carrick and Donkey?!

[denphone]

Reports are saying United are after Modric - didn't SAF learn anything from buying Carrick and Donkey?!

But he is better then anything you have got in your midfield Russ.:)

[Russ]

At the time people were saying similar things about Donkey.

[Damien]

Modric is a great player who will really improve United's midfield. It's nuts to complain about getting him.

[thenry]

How about Robert Lewandowski to replace Donkey Russ?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/08/euro-2012-poland-manchester-united?CMP=twt_gu

[denphone]

Modric is a great player who will really improve United's midfield. It's nuts to complain about getting him.

l wish we had him.:)

[thenry]

Matt Spiro ‏@mattspiro
Samir Nasri 'no longer in Roberto Mancini's plans for next season', say L'Equipe. Inter a possible destination if he is sold #MCFC #FRA
http://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/211357342950891521

:shocked: :LOL:

[denphone]

Matt Spiro ‏@mattspiro
Samir Nasri 'no longer in Roberto Mancini's plans for next season', say L'Equipe. Inter a possible destination if he is sold #MCFC #FRA
http://twitter.com/mattspiro/status/211357342950891521

:shocked: :LOL:

Don't believe a word of it.

[thenry]

he did have a good season but unless City are in for a superstar.. Neymar? thats me snatching at a name. it probably isn't true yeah.

[denphone]

he did have a good season but unless City are in for a superstar.. Neymar? thats me snatching at a name. it probably isn't true yeah.

Just cannot see Neymar joining City as he think he is a cert to go to RM or Barcelona.

[colin25]

Nasri hasn't been influential at Man City..so could be replaced...though i would expect him to improve this season

[thenry]

Just cannot see Neymar joining City as he think he is a cert to go to RM or Barcelona.

probably but your never know. who knew Chelsea would win the CL and get Hazard as a result

Nasri hasn't been influential at Man City..so could be replaced...though i would expect him to improve this season

Nasri didn't have the best of seasons but he wasn't too bad. thing is City thought they were getting a lone superstar when they wasn't. Nasri was always worked around when playing for us. if he'd show he wants to turn it on, our players would let him and work it. your squad on the other hand is being built in a different way so ye i can understand why people say he not good enough.

[colin25]

True...as good the squad is...it still is finding its feet. It might be scary once a few of the players start getting more used to each other :)

[denphone]

True...as good the squad is...it still is finding its feet. It might be scary once a few of the players start getting more used to each other :)

True but to challenge for the CL l think two or three more stellar names are still required at the very least Colin.

[colin25]

I think two defenders..and a midfielder

[denphone]

I think two defenders..and a midfielder

You must be using that old crystal ball again as great minds think alike.:D;)

[colin25]

Nah..despite not losing a lot of goals..the defence looked shaky..hard not to think that.

And midfield needs someone else, increase supply to forwards

[denphone]

Djourou looks at Italian job.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7803107/Djourou-looks-at-Italian-job

[thenry]

:tu:

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RVP City move 'impossible'
Arsenal striker's father plays down reports of summer exit
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7802953/RVP-City-move-impossible-

:p:

[TheDaddy]

Just cannot see Neymar joining City as he think he is a cert to go to RM or Barcelona.

He's not going anywhere until after the world cup, I doubt any of their talented kids will be leaving until after it either.

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I think two defenders..and a midfielder

And at least one striker, depending on who leaves of course

[LexDiamond]

Djourou looks at Italian job.

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7803107/Djourou-looks-at-Italian-job

Fingers crossed :D

[TheDaddy]

Apparently we have met demba ba's release clause and talks are imminent, also close to a deal for palace's zaha and jaskerlinen.