new cable for tivo install?

[staceymo]

Hi
First post here. I've got a Tivo box coming next Friday (18th) and was told on the phone today that they would need to run another cable in to the house to feed the modem in the tivo. Is this true? I would like this clarified as I'll need to dismantle a fair bit of shelving to give them access.
I already have the super hub at 30Mb and telephone and currently run the V+ box in the lounge.
Also, what colour are the Tivo boxes, I'm hoping for black to match everything else. (Think I'm talking myself out of this at the moment)

[spiderplant]

If the TiVo is replacing the V+, it will use exactly the same cable. No replacement needed.

TiVos are semi-shiny black. So good news all round :)

ps. Welcome to the forum!

[staceymo]

Nice one thanks.
I spent ages hiding all the cables after a recent refit, and I'd hate to do it all again.

[RB2004]

Only need new drop cable to the house if,

Signal loss is too high between the tap in the cabinet or pit and requires an RG11 cable upgrade

The existing cable is damaged or has deteriorated.

Or, if you currently already have 4 cable devices and the new addition will be a fifth and you don't want the coax cable on another device split to feed the new device. For example, have a superhub, 2 v+ boxes and a vhd box already... Which makes 4 devices.

Then the TiVo box will be number 5

Reason for 4 devices per drop cable is the biggest splitter and hdu's are only 4 way and if any bigger splitters were used the signal loss would be too high and hdu's bigger than 4 way are unavailable.. Although in theory u can split each of the 4 ways on a hdu

[staceymo]

Thanks for that, I should be ok then. The box is just outside my house so I get a pretty good signal usually. I'm opnly going to have the Tivo box and superhub connected.

[chrisjones]

Sorry to 'hijack', similar question. I've got a TiVo instal due Tuesday, at the moment were on a standard VM receiver, the old silver one as well as a new VM wireless modem. White cable runs in through outside wall and under carpet, will this still be ok?

[arcimedes]

Sorry to 'hijack', similar question. I've got a TiVo instal due Tuesday, at the moment were on a standard VM receiver, the old silver one as well as a new VM wireless modem. White cable runs in through outside wall and under carpet, will this still be ok?

Yes. My Tivo was installed in place of a V+ and the same cable was used.

[chrisjones]

Mine isn't a V+ box, it's just a standard receiver.

[arcimedes]

Mine isn't a V+ box, it's just a standard receiver.

Doesnt make any difference. I originally had a V box and the cables have never been changed. I believe there is only one type of cable that VM install.

[chrisjones]

Ok, thanks for that :-)
Also, will I need to pick up an additional hdmi cable?

[jb66]

No comes with the tech

[redone]

Only need new drop cable to the house if,

Signal loss is too high between the tap in the cabinet or pit and requires an RG11 cable upgrade

The existing cable is damaged or has deteriorated.

Or, if you currently already have 4 cable devices and the new addition will be a fifth and you don't want the coax cable on another device split to feed the new device. For example, have a superhub, 2 v+ boxes and a vhd box already... Which makes 4 devices.

Then the TiVo box will be number 5

Reason for 4 devices per drop cable is the biggest splitter and hdu's are only 4 way and if any bigger splitters were used the signal loss would be too high and hdu's bigger than 4 way are unavailable.. Although in theory u can split each of the 4 ways on a hdu

iv never heard so much nonsense i have done multi box installs and never needed a 2nd cable there is no maximum amount of equipment per cable as long as the signal is ok. As for saying if they dont want the coax splitting iv never given the customer that option in 15yrs of fitting cable id just go ahead and get it done time is money

[RB2004]

Yes for engineer time is money and it's what engineers do but it ain't rubbish

4 way splitter is biggest u get, split the ports on that an it further degrades the signal..
It's because of engineers bodging things I had to sort my own services out at my own cost

My signal levels were -6 on superhub and nearer -10 on tv services

Yes it worked but was far from ideal and then I got a hdu which brought my signal levels back up to perfect levels after my own proper rewire of -2 on tv and 2 on broadband services dead centre of the ranges.. Which means summer or winter with signal fluctuations and if I add further devices my signal levels will always be perfect and I never need to call an engineer again with complaints of weak signal.. Something that has been ongoing for 6 years until this year when ingot fed up and investigated it.. But shove a splitter on one of them ports? And why should I be satisfied that I have perfect signal on only 3 devices and degraded on the other 2? I'm paying for ideal service on 5 devices not 3 and a bit

Wasn't gonna stand for some
Moron screwing those levels up... As a splitter on 1 port degraded my signal to one box yes it still worked but seeming as it was at my own cost and I pay enough money to vm I am entitled to nothing other than perfect even if it takes 10 engineers giving me rubbish fob off excuses.. On 2 occasions as soon as engineers left I was straight on phone booking another appointment.. And if I hadn't? A problem that existed but was denied would not of been resolved by networks.

I respect people who do things properly.. And for vm engineers I'm either good or bad.. Do things properly and how I want in my house.. And I will finish off the job for you clean up, tack cables etc..when I had 2nd drop cable installed.. And phone cable was damaged.. Contractor left the coiled up cable on my lawn.. I dug up the old, put the cable in, reburied it and did all the terminations in the omni myself.. Engineer turned up next day and connected it in the pit and was appreciative as it took him a few minutes only So you can head off to your next job.. But cut corners, do things improperly and bodge and I will have the engineers back time and time again.. And if you continue to fob me off.. I take things into my own hands and do it myself.. Nearly 2k a year to vm? I'm entitled to nothing but perfect for that money and don't stand for nonsense.

Especially when I've been repeatedly given rubbish about moving my line up on taps when there is no other tap in the pit and told networks have been called which was lies.. Ironic thing is every engineer denied a problem and fobbed me off.. Then senior tech came out found a problem called networks and it was fixed in minutes.

And before you question I'm doing the work properly.. I use the exact same connectors vm use and equipment.

Nothing lower spec it's either same as vm or higher spec in terms of cable

So as far as engineers are concerned.. I'm either your best friend or worst enemy when you go to a job.

All depends on if you respect it's my house and I'm paying the bill.. And do things properly because I'm not ignorant.

Do things properly how I want as the customer and i will make the job quick finish it myself and you can head off the next job early..

Bodge it and you will be back again and again