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telfordcable
07-05-2011, 19:29
I would like to say many thanks to virgin media tech guy who came to my house today to installed 100 Meg, XL TV with Sky Sports & Movies with HD, and XL phone with unlimited calls. All went very well. I gave him a nice cup of tea and a cake. The tech guy had replaced a new superhub and fitted a new HD v+ box in three rooms!

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/130.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1285947479.png

DocDutch
07-05-2011, 19:38
and how long you keeping this connection telford as what you've been on the 10, 20, 30, 50 and now 100 in less than a year

telfordcable
07-05-2011, 19:40
and how long you keeping this connection telford as what you've been on the 10, 20, 30, 50 and now 100 in less than a year

It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!

Stephen
07-05-2011, 19:42
Here we go again. I give it till Monday before he is back to 30Mb. Then again he probably didn't even get anything installed and it's all a crazy nightmare.

Sirius
07-05-2011, 19:48
I don't believe a word.

I would be more inclined to have believed you if you had said OBL was alive and well and living in the anti room at the white house.


You should change your name on here to Walter Mitty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty)

Phil-ntl
07-05-2011, 19:57
http://craigswinejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/facepalm2.jpg

Neo-Tech
07-05-2011, 20:29
Please don't reply to this thread anybody.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/108.jpg

Chrysalis
07-05-2011, 20:40
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/111.jpg

TJS
07-05-2011, 20:55
again?

Heres a request, send a screenshot of speedtest.net after the speedtest, showing your 100 mb result and this forum; for proof :) like so

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/110.jpg (http://imgur.com/S52JO)
(click for fullsize)

DABhand
08-05-2011, 01:38
Please don't reply to this thread anybody.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/108.jpg

Just to keep in the spirit of things and in very much tied with Neo's pic...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/129.png

Yes the good old Daroth episode where nothing made sense, which is the same as telford :P

jtaylor06
08-05-2011, 02:12
Guess he's back.
Oh how we've all missed that guy.

DABhand
08-05-2011, 03:38
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/General-broadband-questions/How-Virgin-treat-us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

Sirius
08-05-2011, 07:57
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/General-broadband-questions/How-Virgin-treat-us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

Shocking is the only answer that springs to mind. :shocked:

TJS
08-05-2011, 10:22
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/General-broadband-questions/How-Virgin-treat-us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.


check post 13

"it's 23 days since Virgin flooded my property..."
then at the bottom

"Virgin flooded our house 34 days ago and still haven't paid for repairs"

martyh
08-05-2011, 10:49
Shame he didnt get this guy to fit his stuff

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/General-broadband-questions/How-Virgin-treat-us/td-p/439349

Man I can't believe the non-professionalism shown by VM. Just WOW.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/62/33676750-nightmare.html

same chap is posting here looking for help

Jayster
08-05-2011, 10:57
check post 13

"it's 23 days since Virgin flooded my property..."
then at the bottom

"Virgin flooded our house 34 days ago and still haven't paid for repairs"

The bottom is his signature.

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:32
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1304854181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 12:37
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1304854181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

errm thats a VMNG300's stats, and your say your on 100mb????
please explain

presuming that they are your stats, your downstream power levels are too high, and your upstream too low

Sirius
08-05-2011, 12:41
http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/93858932.png
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1286742661.png
http://speedtest.uk.net/result/30423/
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1304854181&v=12767366

Cable Modem Downstream
DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 299000000 307000000 315000000 323000000
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 197 198 199 200
Modulation 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 11.49 11.89 12.43 12.85
RxMER
(dB) 36.39 36.84 37.36 37.86
Correctable
Codewords 131 42 25 19
Uncorrectable
Codewords 281 277 303 284

Cable Modem Upstream
US-1 US-2 US-3 US-4
Channel Type 2.0 N/A N/A N/A
Channel ID 1 N/A N/A N/A
Frequency
(Hz) 45800000 N/A N/A N/A
Ranging Status Success N/A N/A N/A
Modulation 16QAM N/A N/A N/A
Symbol Rate
(KSym/sec) 5120 N/A N/A N/A
Mini-Slot Size 4 N/A N/A N/A
Power Level
(dBmV) 33.25 N/A N/A N/A
T1 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T2 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T3 Timeouts 0 0 0 0
T4 Timeouts 0 0 0 0

Cable Modem Operation Configuration
General Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Baseline Privacy : Enabled
DOCSIS Mode : DOCSIS 3.0
Config File : *****************.**
Primary Downstream Service Flow
SFID : 25462
Max Traffic Rate : 102400000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 10000 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 25576
Max Traffic Rate : 10250000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 16320 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 16320 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

:spin::spin::spin:

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:41
yep I am on the VMNG300 - the tech guy replaced my superhub as he agree that superhub is rubbish!

I also get the wi-fi of max-out of over 95Meg but with superhub, it rubbish never get any max-out even with R26 is the worse ever firmware version by VM. Tech guy say the power level is fine within the range of 100Meg.

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 12:43
yep I am on the VMNG300 - the tech guy replaced my superhub as he agree that superhub is rubbish!

I also get the wi-fi of max-out of over 95Meg but with superhub, it rubbish never get any max-out even with R26 is the worse ever firmware version by VM. Tech guy say the power level is fine within the range of 100Meg.

are you getting drop out, loss of speed, you should be with those power levels?

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:44
are you getting drop out, loss of speed, you should be with those power levels?

Nope, no drop out or no loss of speed at all.

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 12:44
Nope, no drop out or no loss of speed at all.

post the error log from the modem

Sirius
08-05-2011, 12:45
post the error log from the modem

You know what they say about feeding time :)

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:45
post the error log from the modem

Cable Modem Event Log
First Time Last Time Priority Description


No error there yet since yesterday!

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 12:47
Cable Modem Event Log
First Time Last Time Priority Description


No error there yet since yesterday!

im not convinced, photographic evidence?

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:48
Cable Modem Information
Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0 Compliant
Serial Number : ****************
Boot Code Version : 6.1.1c
Software Version : 3.11.1201
Hardware Version : 1.39.0
CA Key : Installed

Cable Modem Status
Item Status Comments
Acquired Downstream Channel 299 MHz Primary Downstream Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel 45.8 MHz Success
Provisioning State OK Operational
Ethernet Link Status Up 1000 Mbps/Full duplex

Cable Modem Upstream Burst



US-1


Req


Init Maint


Per Maint


Adv Short


Adv Long


Adv UGS


(1)


(3)


(4)


(9)


(10)


(11)
Modulation Type QPSK QPSK QPSK 16QAM 16QAM 16QAM
Differential Encoding OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF OFF
Preamble Length 64 640 384 96 104 104
Preamble Value Offset 652 6 6 1028 1028 1028
FEC Error Correction (T) 0 5 5 6 8 8
FEC Codeword Information Bytes (k) 16 34 34 75 219 219
Maximum Burst Size 0 0 0 6 0 0
Guard Time Size 8 48 48 8 8 8
Last Codeword Length FIX FIX FIX SHORT SHORT SHORT
Scrambler on/off ON ON ON ON ON ON

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 12:50
Cable Modem Information
Cable Modem : DOCSIS 1.0/1.1/2.0/3.0 Compliant
Serial Number : ****************
Boot Code Version : 6.1.1c
Software Version : 3.11.1201
Hardware Version : 1.39.0
CA Key : Installed

Cable Modem Status
Item Status Comments
Acquired Downstream Channel 299 MHz Primary Downstream Locked
Ranged Upstream Channel 45.8 MHz Success
Provisioning State OK Operational
Ethernet Link Status Up 1000 Mbps/Full duplex

take photo of your computer, with the config screen of the modem on, showing the connection stats, with the computer next to the modem

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 12:55
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/107.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

Paul
08-05-2011, 12:56
It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!
Oh good, so we can look forward to not hearing from you for 18 months now. Yipee :D

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 13:00
judging by those power levels the tech guy did not 'do it perfect'

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 13:03
judging by those power levels the tech guy did not 'do it perfect'

who care ! As long I am getting solid 96 meg download and 9.5 upload and no problem on wi-fi so why should I worry about power level ?

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 13:06
who care ! As long I am getting solid 96 meg download and 9.5 upload and no problem on wi-fi so why should I worry about power level ?

power levels dont mean everything, if it aint broke dont fix it. as we have discussed, the VMNG300 is more rugged and can probably cope with power levels where yours are, but I do not believe for one minute that you have changed package once again

but youve had 100meg before and you said it was rubbish

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 13:09
my 100 meg are fine! got download transfer rate of 12.6MB/s

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 13:12
my 100 meg are fine! got download transfer rate of 12.6MB/s

why do you keep changing you avatar, it was a gremlin, then a blue bin laden, now a normal bin laden, what are you doing?

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 13:16
why do you keep changing you avatar, it was a gremlin, then a blue bin laden, now a normal bin laden, what are you doing?

Just testing avatar to suit the secret coded name!

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 13:17
EvilFace Osama Bin Laden

you are one strange being

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 13:20
you are one strange being

The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

craigj2k12
08-05-2011, 13:22
The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

are you English? your grammar makes it seem like you are foreign

Sirius
08-05-2011, 13:29
The video of USA released of osama bin laden sit on the floor watched himself on the tv is not him at all (that's not him!) USA are lied!

As of now you are permanently on my "user is a gimp list" and added to ignore

**********Edit************

Added and it means i don't have to see his stupid avatar ether . Result :LOL:

Mal
08-05-2011, 13:53
As of now you are permanently on my "user is a gimp list" and added to ignore

**********Edit************

Added and it means i don't have to seen his stupid avatar ether. Result :LOL:That's a shame, it's quite good at the moment ;)

DABhand
08-05-2011, 15:17
Im sorry, but his Upstream modulation is wrong for 100mb, shouldn't he be on ATDMA which is a pile o crap anyways.

Ignitionnet
08-05-2011, 15:31
Im sorry, but his Upstream modulation is wrong for 100mb, shouldn't he be on ATDMA which is a pile o crap anyways.

The upstream modulation is fine. ATDMA isn't a modulation and isn't a pile of crap.

DABhand
08-05-2011, 15:37
ATDMA shares upstream with other users locally, how is it not crap :P

QAM16 on 100mb? Is it only ATDMA for the superhub then?

If so then I am glad I still have the VMNG300 in the background if I ever decide I want to stay at end of year and go with 100mb. And thats a big IF :P

Ignitionnet
08-05-2011, 16:18
ATDMA shares upstream with other users locally, how is it not crap :P

Cable is shared. ATDMA manages a shared resource reasonably efficiently.

I could explain more but I don't have the inclination given the rest of your post.

GrimUpNorth
08-05-2011, 16:55
I know everyone will sigh at me for ignoring the no feeding signs but according to the 'Finally Arrives Here' thread you started on 13 March:

I got 100 Meg finally arrive here today and here is my wifi wireless speed......

Then after a couple of days of endless speed/ping tests on 15 March:

just downgrade back to XL 30 meg now as I don't like 100 meg at all. speed is all over the place, 25, 42, 52, 61, 77, 83 and 96 meg and very poor upload speed with poor ping.

Then 20 minutes later you backed it up with:

I now realise myself that both L 10 Meg and XL 30 Meg is more solid and far better than rubbish XXL 50 Meg and 100 Meg (very poor indeed and not worth the money!) I shall not go ahead with 200 Meg in a few years time. I am now staying with XL 30 Meg forever! :)

Early hours of the next day (16 March - keep up eveyone!!):

100Meg isn't worth it to be honest, waste of £45 a month for silly low speed!

Later that same day:

Just upgrade back to 100 Meg as tech guy had fixed my power level. It now stable 98.79Meg download and 9.42Meg upload. Downloading transfer rate of 10.2Mb/s solid. Ping is now 6ms. Much better :)

On the 17 March after we had all discussed how much all these changes must be costing you, it looked like you were going to stick it out on your new tier:

Look folk, it real as my ebilling is in credit of -£103.00 as I owe virgin media zero bill this month and the activation fee is free of charge upgrade to 100Meg from 30Meg. No charge as they credit me £30.00 for activation fee. 100 Meg no problem here so far! Got 4ms ping and 0ms jitter!

13:17 - 18 March, after we've all debated at length if you are for real or not the news we've all been expecting:

Revert back to 30 Meg today

22 March:

I am now on large 10 meg just downgrade from XL 30 meg to L 10 meg now!

I don't need 30Meg, I don't need 50Meg, I don't need 100Meg and I don't need 200Meg in future. I only surf the internet, forum, chat and email and that's was it.

25 March:

I am now back to 50 Meg XXL with VMNG300! Activated today.

19:29 7 May:

I would like to say many thanks to virgin media tech guy who came to my house today to installed 100 Meg, XL TV with Sky Sports & Movies with HD, and XL phone with unlimited calls. All went very well. I gave him a nice cup of tea and a cake. The tech guy had replaced a new superhub and fitted a new HD v+ box in three rooms!

19:40 7 May:

It will staying with 100 Meg for the next 18 months with new 18 months contract with everything, TV, Phone and Broadband all top packages!

@Telford, I was going to do a graph of your speed changes, but thought it might give me a funny turn. Can't you see from the above why nobody can take anything you say seriously?

If you manage to go for 18 months without changing to a different package I could be tempted to pay your 19th months broadband for you, not that I think for a minute I'll be getting my cheque book out!!

Cheers
Grim

TJS
08-05-2011, 17:34
Care to respond to my request telford?

Sirius
08-05-2011, 17:34
I know everyone will sigh at me for ignoring the no feeding signs but according to the 'Finally Arrives Here' thread you started on 13 March:



Then after a couple of days of endless speed/ping tests on 15 March:



Then 20 minutes later you backed it up with:



Early hours of the next day (16 March - keep up eveyone!!):



Later that same day:



On the 17 March after we had all discussed how much all these changes must be costing you, it looked like you were going to stick it out on your new tier:



13:17 - 18 March, after we've all debated at length if you are for real or not the news we've all been expecting:



22 March:



25 March:



19:29 7 May:



19:40 7 May:



@Telford, I was going to do a graph of your speed changes, but thought it might give me a funny turn. Can't you see from the above why nobody can take anything you say seriously?

If you manage to go for 18 months without changing to a different package I could be tempted to pay your 19th months broadband for you, not that I think for a minute I'll be getting my cheque book out!!

Cheers
Grim

That poster will post every now and then with a complete load of bull excreta that Walter Mitty would have not made up. He knows that the admins here cannot touch him because he stays just this side of the line. Everyone should do what i have done and put the fool on ignore

DABhand
08-05-2011, 18:11
That poster will post every now and then with a complete load of bull excreta that Walter Mitty would have not made up. He knows that the admins here cannot touch him because he stays just this side of the line. Everyone should do what i have done and put the fool on ignore

Admin's perogative no? If he is that much of a disruption even keeping in toe with the rules, then I am sure they can use discretion and just ban him :P

martyh
08-05-2011, 18:16
I'm confused as to how anyone can manage to upgrade and downgrade in such a short space of time .Each new package would require a new contract surely ?

DABhand
08-05-2011, 18:17
Cable is shared. ATDMA manages a shared resource reasonably efficiently.

I could explain more but I don't have the inclination given the rest of your post.

I know about ATDMA, I have explained it myself on the VM forums how it works etc. So no need to explain.

I still think its a pile of rubbish myself, there is other ways.

Oh and btw ATDMA is a modulation type. Overall I would prefer SCDMA over ATDMA.

EDIT: I remember me and pip having a discussion about this, but pip just opened up a new thread and didn't bother to respond :P

Chrysalis
08-05-2011, 18:25
I know about ATDMA, I have explained it myself on the VM forums how it works etc. So no need to explain.

I still think its a pile of rubbish myself, there is other ways.

Oh and btw ATDMA is a modulation type. Overall I would prefer SCDMA over ATDMA.

so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sounds like a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

Sirius
08-05-2011, 18:28
I'm confused as to how anyone can manage to upgrade and downgrade in such a short space of time .Each new package would require a new contract surely ?

I would find it shocking if it was true ;)

DABhand
08-05-2011, 18:35
so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sound slike a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

SCDMA has other benefits, it can utilize 128QAM with TCM (Trellis Coded Modulation). Also the fact that there is not time slots assigned per modem on the upstream, so modems can transmit Asynchronous, but as some people know ATDMA is not Asynchronous and assigns time slots to each modem on the same node so it is not a continuous data transmition.

pip08456
08-05-2011, 18:37
so this here.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35230501-post2.html

VM are not actually using scdma on docsis2 then? sound slike a mode that would help latency. It does seem VM are barely utilising docsis2, no qam64 and no scdma.

ATDMA is a direct evolution of DOCSIS 1.x physical layer (PHY), which uses TDMA multiplexing. DOCSIS 1.x upstream PHY uses a frequency division multiple access (FDMA)/TDMA burst multiplexing technique. FDMA accommodates simultaneous operation of multiple radio frequency (RF) channels on different frequencies. TDMA allows multiple cable modems to share the same individual RF channel, because it allocates each cable modem its own time slot in which to transmit. TDMA is carried over in DOCSIS 2.0, with numerous enhancements. SCDMA is a different approach, in which up to 128 symbols are transmitted simultaneously via 128 orthogonal codes. SCDMA multiplexing allows multiple modems to transmit in the same time slot. Both ATDMA and SCDMA provide the same maximum data throughput, although one might perform better than the other under specific operating conditions.

and

In order to get high throughput with SCDMA, the modems must all be time aligned within a fraction of the symbol rate. Otherwise, the “S” (synchronous) part of CDMA fails, and the data from one modem corrupts the data from other modems. The result is packet loss. The timing resolution is measured in nanoseconds. There are issues when you measure things in nanoseconds across a distance of 40 km (a short network) or up to 320 km (a long network):

minute changes in fiber path distance, caused by temperature (expansion and contraction of the glass itself)

expansion of the coaxial network (which is why every span has an expansion loop)

the fact that the speed of light also changes with temperature, in both fiber and coaxial line (Velocity of Propagation as a percentage of speed of light)

Every 1 second, an SCDMA modem must be time-aligned, if the modem is more than 20 km from the headend, even if less than half of that network is overhead plant. This represents at least 60 to 80 percent of the cable modems for most multiple service operators (MSOs).

If the hybrid fiber-coaxial (HFC) network is 100 percent underground (including the fiber), the modems are less than 10 km from the headend, and the temperature is very constant for a given day. Then the modems can be time-aligned less often.

Apparently, timing alignment had become a major problem with the modems of some vendors in general. They lose synchronization with the downstream and do not realize it, and then transmit at the wrong time. Therefore, the modem transmits at a time that is reserved for another modem and causes packet loss both for itself and for the other modem. The packet loss for all modems vanishes when only the bad modems are removed from the network.

source (http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk86/tk168/technologies_q_and_a_item09186a00802de427.shtml)

DABhand
08-05-2011, 18:50
Cmon Pip put it into your own words surely you got taught that at school :)

What it doesn't say even though it is the same max throughput, ATDMA due to its time sloted upstream channels can cause packet loss when sending data packets to a destination, etc.

Again SCDMA is superior, in the fact as said it can handle 128QAM and use TCM. And Asynchronous upstream channels, even to us it is unnoticeable for the ATDMA timeslots but to the modem etc it is eternity :P

Maggy
08-05-2011, 18:51
Topic?

martyh
08-05-2011, 18:52
Topic?


is there one ?

DABhand
08-05-2011, 18:53
I saw Telford posting modem stats, and assumed that 100mb uses ATDMA upstream, so said... but it seems to have turned into a debate. Which is more entertaining than Telford.

Maggy
08-05-2011, 19:08
I saw Telford posting modem stats, and assumed that 100mb uses ATDMA upstream, so said... but it seems to have turned into a debate. Which is more entertaining than Telford.

Then open a thread about it..But keep to topic in this thread.

DABhand
08-05-2011, 19:15
It is on topic!

He said he got 100mb, I stated that the modulation seemed wrong, and it carried on from there discussing here and there.

I initially said but did not start the debate, so why am I being fingered out.

Besides, like someone said - Is there a topic. Hell even Telford has went off tangents also.

Ok, I will be nice about this...

Dear Maggy J,

What is the topic of this said thread please?

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 19:25
I would find it shocking if it was true ;)

I had upgrade and downgrade on ADSL 88th times since 2002. Upgrade and downgrade 28th times since 2007 with virgin media.

---------- Post added at 19:25 ---------- Previous post was at 19:22 ----------

It cost me nearly £4,300 to upgrade, downgrade with ADSL and Virgin Media Cable since 2002 and 2007. My monies going to ran out in my bank!

martyh
08-05-2011, 19:26
I had upgrade and downgrade on ADSL 88th times since 2002. Upgrade and downgrade 28th times since 2007 with virgin media.

At risk of starting something that might never finish ....WHY?:confused::confused::confused::confused:

Chrysalis
08-05-2011, 19:26
from what pip pasted and what dabhand is saying I get the impression SCDMA is superior and would have a noticeble impact on jitter however is more diffilcult to get working optimally. So still seems like VM just went for the easiest and cheapest option of upgrading the upstream, they simply went one step up doing the minimal as docsis1 was already maxed out. When they had the opportunity to do a much better upgrade jump by utilising 40mbit channels and this SCDMA mode. does anyone know what comcast and other cable providers are utilising?

martyh
08-05-2011, 19:29
It cost me nearly £4,300 to upgrade, downgrade with ADSL and Virgin Media Cable since 2002 and 2007. My monies going to ran out in my bank!


Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Sirius
08-05-2011, 19:38
Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Do you honestly expect an adult answer to that question :LOL:

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 19:40
video here of 100 Meg:

View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2aeuvtg/7)

pip08456
08-05-2011, 19:42
Oh dear ,it's a good job VM don't have anymore packages for you to try

It would appear that each time you have upgraded/dpwngraded then you have been charged a substantial ammpunt of money ,possibly the cost of the contract ,so once again........ WHY?

Don't worry, there will eventually be 200Mb, 400Mb and 1GB for him to try eventually.:D

Chrys, I note you only refer to the advantages of SCDMA and seem to ignore the disadvantages as does DABhand.

AFAIK (which is limited) it is only used for mobile eg 3G etc. Igni is the best one to answer perhaps.

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 19:44
£4,300 isn't coming from my money! It from government tax money that paid for me!

Virgin Media customer support ask me why do I kept upgrade and downgrade and it cost alots of money to pay installation and activation charge and I told them "look it none of your business, do u want my business ?" and they went ahead and say "it your money sir"

martyh
08-05-2011, 19:50
£4,300 isn't coming from my money! It from government tax money that paid for me!

Virgin Media customer support ask me why do I kept upgrade and downgrade and it cost alots of money to pay installation and activation charge and I told them "look it none of your business, do u want my business ?" and they went ahead and say "it your money sir"


Government tax money ,what do you mean by that ?

DABhand
08-05-2011, 19:53
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Plus he did say in a post earlier that the monies in his bank is going to run out.

I dunno sounds like he is a type of person who longs to be better than others so invents situations to suit. IMHO.

Sirius
08-05-2011, 20:00
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Plus he did say in a post earlier that the monies in his bank is going to run out.

I dunno sounds like he is a type of person who longs to be better than others so invents situations to suit. IMHO.

May i refer the honorable gentleman to post 5 (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35231250-post5.html):D

telfordcable
08-05-2011, 20:10
He is talking pants. Firstly the video he posted is not date stamped etc so could be from someone else on another forum etc. I would be more impressed if he had this forum page on the video then onto a speed test by minimizing or swapping tabs.

Here is my proof video here with speed test following by date and time:
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2dl2i48/7)

DABhand
08-05-2011, 20:21
Ok that shows something that is done just after 8pm, but that could be yesterday, last week, last month - and again no reference to this post to see that it is indeed today. So you may well be on 100mb. But if you are doing all this and paying monies from the "government". Then why are you so eager to downgrade and upgrade while paying cancellation fees etc?

You will never always get 100mb, it all depends on the other server you are getting from, perhaps their maximum upstream is 50mb, so you will get 50mb from them assuming no one else is getting at the time.

So just stick at it and use it.

Don't see the reason why you make these posts.... I just don't know, maybe something in the water at Telford.

Maggy
08-05-2011, 20:24
It is on topic!

He said he got 100mb, I stated that the modulation seemed wrong, and it carried on from there discussing here and there.

I initially said but did not start the debate, so why am I being fingered out.

Besides, like someone said - Is there a topic. Hell even Telford has went off tangents also.

Ok, I will be nice about this...

Dear Maggy J,

What is the topic of this said thread please?

It is about telfordcable's upgrade apparently.

Just don't digress onto other topics please and I'm trying to be nice so I will remind you that arguing in public with a moderator is subject to an infraction.

Chrysalis
08-05-2011, 20:42
Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33677419-an-introduction-to-docsis-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

pip08456
08-05-2011, 20:48
Here is my proof video here with speed test following by date and time:
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2dl2i48/7)

Sorry TC, there's no date on there.

---------- Post added at 20:48 ---------- Previous post was at 20:44 ----------

Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33677419-an-introduction-to-docsis-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

You can move mine there if you want as well.:D

Skie
08-05-2011, 20:50
I feel happy knowing that taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for this dolts escapades through VM's complicated billing system.

I look forward to him moving up to the 1.5gb business trials!

jtaylor06
08-05-2011, 20:53
I feel happy knowing that taxpayers are the ones footing the bill for this dolts escapades through VM's complicated billing system.

I look forward to him moving up to the 1.5gb business trials!

He would have to change his name to londoncable and go to one of the London businesses in trial for that to happen :p:

Maggy
08-05-2011, 20:55
Maggy J I apologose for my reply which I posted after your post, can you please if possible move posts relating to ATDMA and SCDMA to this thread?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33677419-an-introduction-to-docsis-2-parts.html

As I think was a good discussion, thanks.

Sorry but that would be a little too complicated to do and that thread would not flow correctly.

pip08456
08-05-2011, 21:00
Sorry but that would be a little too complicated to do and that thread would not flow correctly.

Don't know about the flow of the thread Maggy as ATDMA and SCDMA are already mentioned and are both part of the DOCSIS 2 platform which the thread is about.

I can see the problem moving individual posts to it though.:D

Chrysalis
08-05-2011, 21:00
I linked to this thread from the other so we can discuss the SCDMA stuff there now.

Maggy
08-05-2011, 21:03
I linked to this thread from the other so we can discuss the SCDMA stuff there now.

That may help..Hope it doesn't confuse.;)

Ignitionnet
08-05-2011, 21:21
SCDMA has other benefits, it can utilize 128QAM with TCM (Trellis Coded Modulation). Also the fact that there is not time slots assigned per modem on the upstream, so modems can transmit Asynchronous, but as some people know ATDMA is not Asynchronous and assigns time slots to each modem on the same node so it is not a continuous data transmition.

SCDMA is less efficient than ATDMA. 128QAM requires an insane upstream SNR, 64QAM is a challenge for operators to push to let alone another 3dB to cater to 128QAM and after overheads it doesn't actually provide anything more than 64QAM ATDMA.

SCDMA does indeed have a purpose, it is more resilient in the presence of burst noise that ATDMA, however horses for courses. If it were so evidently superior everyone would be doing it. They aren't.

Maggy
08-05-2011, 21:28
SCDMA is less efficient than ATDMA. 128QAM requires an insane upstream SNR, 64QAM is a challenge for operators to push to let alone another 3dB to cater to 128QAM and after overheads it doesn't actually provide anything more than 64QAM ATDMA.

SCDMA does indeed have a purpose, it is more resilient in the presence of burst noise that ATDMA, however horses for courses. If it were so evidently superior everyone would be doing it. They aren't.

Could you please take such discussions to this thread (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/26/33677413-how-cable-internet-works.html) to prevent it being taken any further off topic.Thank you.

telfordcable
09-05-2011, 13:25
Tech Guy is booked for this thursday to check my power levels correctly. I had spoken to tech support and they had check my VMNG300 power level signal and say it need to be booked again for tech guy.

AdamD
09-05-2011, 13:30
I clearly don't understand tax/business law, how or rather, why would the government foot the bill for someone's inability to decide on a product?

Chrysalis
09-05-2011, 18:12
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

Skie
09-05-2011, 18:14
With the poor English I'm guessing he is some sort of bod from abroad looking to test out our countries tiers of cable.

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:19
With the poor English I'm guessing he is some sort of bod from abroad looking to test out our countries tiers of cable.

hahahahaaaa, maybe he is from offshore tech support?

martyh
09-05-2011, 18:21
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

well a tax rebate is still his money so i am still confused :confused:

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:22
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

pip08456
09-05-2011, 18:23
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

Likewise!:D

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:23
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

martyh
09-05-2011, 18:23
Think i know what he is but if i post it i would be banned :LOL:

do tell i'm intriged :D

TJS
09-05-2011, 18:24
Either he got a load of tax rebate or is some sort of benefit income hence him saying government money.

no no, "monies":dozey:

pip08456
09-05-2011, 18:25
PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

I would not judge anyone who posts on a forum as to their personal circumstances. I know he's an idiot though!

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:25
no no, "monies":dozey:

george agdgdgwngo

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:25
PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

I don't do racist stuff :(

Ok here you go

He's a complete plonker Rodney

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:27
I would not judge anyone who posts on a forum as to their personal circumstances.

anything in that post wasnt an assumption, the only assumption i have about TC is that he is foreign, and he is an attention seeker. I feel i am able to post this, because every member of this forum knows this, even TC himself

---------- Post added at 18:27 ---------- Previous post was at 18:26 ----------

I don't do racist stuff :(

but you are from Warrington? not the part iv been to obviously ;):D:D

pip08456
09-05-2011, 18:28
its got to be either fraudster or something racist

And this is?

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:30
And this is?

only institutional racism :td:

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:30
but you are from Warrington? not the part iv been to obviously ;):D:D

I think i know which part you would be on about and if you went there, May the force be with you :)

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 18:31
I think i know which part you would be on about and if you went there, May the force be with you :)

when i went there, i was drunk out my mind, and it looked the right way up - i think this will clear it up lol

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:35
hahahahaaaa, maybe he is from offshore tech support?

well a tax rebate is still his money so i am still confused :confused:

Likewise!:D

PM's are always good ;)

its got to be either fraudster or something racist

Do i take it that "T-C" you can work that out for yourself ;) has been enlightening us with is wisdom again :D

I have the plonker on ignore now due to his posts reducing my will to live.

martyh
09-05-2011, 18:38
I don't do racist stuff :(

Ok here you go

He's a complete plonker Rodney


I was thinking one of those secret shopper type thingys' that you get in supermarkets only he's doing it for digital services :D

---------- Post added at 18:38 ---------- Previous post was at 18:36 ----------

Do i take it that "T-C" you can work that out for yourself ;) has been enlightening us with is wisdom again :D

I have the plonker on ignore now due to his posts reducing my will to live.

Yeah ,he's got a tech booked because his power levels are all to cock

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:39
I was thinking one of those secret shopper type thingys' that you get in supermarkets only he's doing it for digital services :D

I don't believe a word he says on here. I would sooner believe Tony Blair about weapons of mass destruction then believe that TC

martyh
09-05-2011, 18:39
Tech Guy is booked for this thursday to check my power levels correctly. I had spoken to tech support and they had check my VMNG300 power level signal and say it need to be booked again for tech guy.

I thought it was "perfect"

Sirius
09-05-2011, 18:40
Yeah ,he's got a tech booked because his power levels are all to cock

There not the only things of his all to cock :LOL:

Hugh
09-05-2011, 18:40
Could we focus on the topic, and not the OP.

pip08456
09-05-2011, 18:45
Could we focus on the topic, and not the OP.

Please Hugh.

This is all about the entertaining OP!:D

Or do you believe everything he posts?

Maggy
09-05-2011, 19:41
Please Hugh.

This is all about the entertaining OP!:D

Or do you believe everything he posts?

Just do as the mod asks please.

telfordcable
09-05-2011, 20:02
I am not a foreign & I am not OSL either. I just a natural British born and I only saying I booked the tech guy because someone metion to me that the power level is not right spot on.

Also I don't claim any benefits as I do work in UK.

craigj2k12
09-05-2011, 20:15
I am not a foreign & I am not OSL either. I just a natural British born and I only saying I booked the tech guy because someone metion to me that the power level is not right spot on.

Also I don't claim any benefits as I do work in UK.

:juggle::juggle::juggle::blah::blah::blah::drunk: :sick: :batty::upyours:

TJS
09-05-2011, 22:24
I am not a foreign & I am not OSL either. I just a natural British born and I only saying I booked the tech guy because someone metion to me that the power level is not right spot on.

Also I don't claim any benefits as I do work in UK.

if it is working perfectly, youve experienced no problems, and there are no errors.


then why call out an engineer. :mad:

Peter_
09-05-2011, 23:01
If he is on 100Mb then he must use a Superhub no ifs or buts as Pip found out a few weeks ago.

So if he is insisting that he is using a VMNG300 he cannot be on 100Mb as that is not allowed and he would be the only customer connected in this way.

I feel this thread is aimed at the VMNG300 wanabee's who want 100Mb without the Superhub.

Chrysalis
09-05-2011, 23:05
he wouldnt be the only customer as you know from reading this forum there is at least 2 others masque ;)

Ignitionnet
09-05-2011, 23:06
He's gotten 8 pages out of you guys, I'd say he wins.

Maggy
09-05-2011, 23:20
He's gotten 8 pages out of you guys, I'd say he wins.

QFT

DABhand
09-05-2011, 23:51
That song "Every Day I'm Hustling" comes to mind.

Peter_
10-05-2011, 05:58
he wouldnt be the only customer as you know from reading this forum there is at least 2 others masque ;)
Now who would you believe has a VMNG300 the other 2plus this one or just the other 2, I know which I would believe.

Now if they are on 100Mb it will fail one day in the none to distant future so nothing to be proud of anyway and they will have to get a Superhub or have no connection.:D

telfordcable
10-05-2011, 11:22
If he is on 100Mb then he must use a Superhub no ifs or buts as Pip found out a few weeks ago.

So if he is insisting that he is using a VMNG300 he cannot be on 100Mb as that is not allowed and he would be the only customer connected in this way.

I feel this thread is aimed at the VMNG300 wanabee's who want 100Mb without the Superhub.

rubbish, you're are genuine wrong! you can use 100Mb on vmng300 as it does support 100Mb!

Stephen
10-05-2011, 14:56
It you that are genuine wrong ;)

It may support the speed but VM will not installed 100Mb without the Superhub.

telfordcable
10-05-2011, 15:31
So, it strange as tech guy swap the vmng300 modem from my superhub as they say to me that superhub cannot handle wi-fi performance well with a loss of 50% of speed reduced! Instead they use vmng300 modem.

I have to wait until thursday see what the tech guy say about vmng300 modem on my 100 meg (i hope he not take it away and put my superhub back on)

---------- Post added at 15:31 ---------- Previous post was at 15:29 ----------

I am looking for DSL/Cable modem bonding together to gain more speed eg:

Cable 100/10 plus DSL 7/0.3 to make it possible 107/10.03 is it possible do that ?

Got my ebilling for tv xl with sky sports & movies HD, phone xl and broadband 100 cost me £527.68 (with partial service and charge for 2 x v+ hd boxes) :(

craigj2k12
10-05-2011, 15:41
So, it strange as tech guy swap the vmng300 modem from my superhub as they say to me that superhub cannot handle wi-fi performance well with a loss of 50% of speed reduced! Instead they use vmng300 modem.

I have to wait until thursday see what the tech guy say about vmng300 modem on my 100 meg (i hope he not take it away and put my superhub back on)

---------- Post added at 15:31 ---------- Previous post was at 15:29 ----------

I am looking for DSL/Cable modem bonding together to gain more speed eg:

Cable 100/10 plus DSL 7/0.3 to make it possible 107/10.03 is it possible do that ?

you cant bond it, but you could use load balancing, unless there are multiple users in the house, this would be pointless, as the load balancing router would always direct traffic to the 100mb line.

anyway load balancing routers are expensive

Stephen
10-05-2011, 15:50
So, it strange as tech guy swap the vmng300 modem from my superhub as they say to me that superhub cannot handle wi-fi performance well with a loss of 50% of speed reduced! Instead they use vmng300 modem.

I have to wait until thursday see what the tech guy say about vmng300 modem on my 100 meg (i hope he not take it away and put my superhub back on)

---------- Post added at 15:31 ---------- Previous post was at 15:29 ----------

I am looking for DSL/Cable modem bonding together to gain more speed eg:

Cable 100/10 plus DSL 7/0.3 to make it possible 107/10.03 is it possible do that ?

Got my ebilling for tv xl with sky sports & movies HD, phone xl and broadband 100 cost me £527.68 (with partial service and charge for 2 x v+ hd boxes) :(
Well that's nonsense as I still get full speed over wireless with my superhub. Techs aren't always known for their correct info.

Also over £500! have they decided to charge you for all the installs of all the changes in your broadband speed? Lmao.

telfordcable
10-05-2011, 16:15
they charge me for extra boxes (v+ HD)

Sirius
10-05-2011, 16:28
There should be a cable forum warning automatically placed at the bottom of all of Telford Cable's posts.

"Cable Forum Warning" Reading and believing any of Telford Cables posts will rot you brains and make you look foolish :LOL:

DABhand
10-05-2011, 17:24
I can somehow see 4chan using various pics of engineer type guys in various predicaments but solving them, with the caption "Tech Guy did it Perfect!"

Hugh
10-05-2011, 17:56
I can somehow see 4chan using various pics of engineer type guys in various predicaments but solving them, with the caption "Tech Guy did it Perfect!"

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/96.jpg

Ignitionnet
10-05-2011, 18:01
Well that's nonsense as I still get full speed over wireless with my superhub. Techs aren't always known for their correct info.

Oddly I couldn't get full speed on wireless at 2.4GHz or 5GHz on that PoS even in the same room.

Can't get full upstream due to congestion but disabled wireless on the Superhub, installed a shiny new E4200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Linksys-Maximum-Performance-E4200-Dual-Band/dp/B004MKN1DM) and suddenly...

Download Speed: 50727 kbps (6340.9 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 1371 kbps (171.4 KB/sec )

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1305046319&v=12782831

Incidentally even at 5GHz and using the dongle I still couldn't break ~30Mbit/s.

I note jb66 also commenting on Superhub wireless performance. Given he's a residential tech I would speculate he's in a better place to comment on it than yourself working in Business.

I appreciate yourself and Masque have absolutely flawless Superhubs that never need reloading, deliver perfect latency and offer fabulous wireless performance from the other side of the globe. Some aren't as fortunate.

TJS
10-05-2011, 18:08
Oddly I couldn't get full speed on wireless at 2.4GHz or 5GHz on that PoS even in the same room.

Can't get full upstream due to congestion but disabled wireless on the Superhub, installed a shiny new E4200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Linksys-Maximum-Performance-E4200-Dual-Band/dp/B004MKN1DM) and suddenly...

Download Speed: 50727 kbps (6340.9 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 1371 kbps (171.4 KB/sec )

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1305046319&v=12782831

Incidentally even at 5GHz and using the dongle I still couldn't break ~30Mbit/s.

I note jb66 also commenting on Superhub wireless performance. Given he's a residential tech I would speculate he's in a better place to comment on it than yourself working in Business.

I appreciate yourself and Masque have absolutely flawless Superhubs that never need reloading, deliver perfect latency and offer fabulous wireless performance from the other side of the globe. Some aren't as fortunate.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/116.png
over wifi ~20 foot + upstairs away from the hub

DABhand
10-05-2011, 18:32
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/96.jpg

Here is a couple

http://www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/tgdip.png
http://www.vwaskar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fun/tgdip2.png

Chrysalis
10-05-2011, 18:54
Oddly I couldn't get full speed on wireless at 2.4GHz or 5GHz on that PoS even in the same room.

Can't get full upstream due to congestion but disabled wireless on the Superhub, installed a shiny new E4200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Linksys-Maximum-Performance-E4200-Dual-Band/dp/B004MKN1DM) and suddenly...

Download Speed: 50727 kbps (6340.9 KB/sec ) Upload Speed: 1371 kbps (171.4 KB/sec )

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1305046319&v=12782831

Incidentally even at 5GHz and using the dongle I still couldn't break ~30Mbit/s.

I note jb66 also commenting on Superhub wireless performance. Given he's a residential tech I would speculate he's in a better place to comment on it than yourself working in Business.

I appreciate yourself and Masque have absolutely flawless Superhubs that never need reloading, deliver perfect latency and offer fabulous wireless performance from the other side of the globe. Some aren't as fortunate.

were all your slow speedtest's done over wireless none at all over wired?

Ignitionnet
10-05-2011, 19:09
God no, wouldn't post dodgy wireless as a measure of WAN performance.

Peter_
10-05-2011, 20:56
So, it strange as tech guy swap the vmng300 modem from my superhub as they say to me that superhub cannot handle wi-fi performance well with a loss of 50% of speed reduced! Instead they use vmng300 modem.

I have to wait until thursday see what the tech guy say about vmng300 modem on my 100 meg (i hope he not take it away and put my superhub back on)

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I am looking for DSL/Cable modem bonding together to gain more speed eg:

Cable 100/10 plus DSL 7/0.3 to make it possible 107/10.03 is it possible do that ?

Got my ebilling for tv xl with sky sports & movies HD, phone xl and broadband 100 cost me £527.68 (with partial service and charge for 2 x v+ hd boxes) :(
Welcome to

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DABhand
10-05-2011, 21:02
I like the look of that shop...

Tech Guy did it perfect!

Sirius
10-05-2011, 21:02
Welcome to

http://www.cloudcuckooland.biz/ccl5.jpg

So that's where numpty lives

Maggy
10-05-2011, 21:11
Do not descend to childish name calling.

Chrysalis
10-05-2011, 21:31
God no, wouldn't post dodgy wireless as a measure of WAN performance.

good was about to slap you for that.

telfordcable
10-05-2011, 21:45
installed a shiny new E4200 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cisco-Linksys-Maximum-Performance-E4200-Dual-Band/dp/B004MKN1DM) .

Thanks, I will going to buy this one E4200-Dual-Band

craigj2k12
10-05-2011, 22:11
Thanks, I will going to buy this one E4200-Dual-Band

but is you sorted with the broadband providings?

zekeisaszekedoes
10-05-2011, 22:17
@Telford, I was going to do a graph of your speed changes, but thought it might give me a funny turn. Can't you see from the above why nobody can take anything you say seriously?

Sir, I salute your anti-troll measures. That quotefest showed real commitment to the bit; I cracked up when I got to the "funny turn" line. :D

Admin's perogative no? If he is that much of a disruption even keeping in toe with the rules, then I am sure they can use discretion and just ban him :P

I tried something like that (appealing for him being banned) and I nearly got banned. So tread carefully?

It cost me nearly £4,300 to upgrade, downgrade with ADSL and Virgin Media Cable since 2002 and 2007. My monies going to ran out in my bank!

Ha! Hilarious in it's incomprehensibility. :)

£4,300 isn't coming from my money! It from government tax money that paid for me!

So, what, you're owning up to being some kind of benefit fraudster now? Hey wait... maybe it's some kind of mental incapacity benefit. Which would explain a lot.

rubbish, you're are genuine wrong! you can use 100Mb on vmng300 as it does support 100Mb!

You should get a job translating Japanese video games to English. Somebody set us up the bomb! OH NO! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!

Oddly I couldn't get full speed on wireless at 2.4GHz or 5GHz on that PoS even in the same room.

Yeah, same here. Any serious LAN traffic and the thing would bend faster than a plastic toddler safety spoon.

Do not descend to childish name calling.

No no, I think you misunderstood. In this particular image macro, Numpty is the name of the dog wearing the fetching (hehe, it's funny cos he's a dog) Superman outfit. Only hardcore 4channers know about that; it's not common knowledge like the FFFFFUUUUUUUU guy.

...i wonder how many people will read this before it gets edited/deleted...

craigj2k12
10-05-2011, 23:26
...i wonder how many people will read this before it gets edited/deleted...

i read it lol

DABhand
11-05-2011, 00:39
4chan has gone down to the lowest ever, not happy in allowing the kids to take reign over /b/ with boxxy (and now recently Chloe), dubs+trips+quads+quint, nude girls and lets attack this site threads, they have now put WWE music on when you enter.

It is so much /facepalming

But yeah I remember the days of Numpty and his world wide travels :P

TJS
11-05-2011, 01:23
Here is my proof video here with speed test following by date and time:
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/r/2dl2i48/7)

I don't get how you got even close to 100 mb/s on that speedtester as it maxes out flat on 40 mb/s for me when every other speedtester can get a 48 - 50 :)

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http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/94370562.png (http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk)

Maggy
11-05-2011, 08:31
No no, I think you misunderstood. In this particular image macro, Numpty is the name of the dog wearing the fetching (hehe, it's funny cos he's a dog) Superman outfit. Only hardcore 4channers know about that; it's not common knowledge like the FFFFFUUUUUUUU guy.

...i wonder how many people will read this before it gets edited/deleted...

Again I have to remind members that arguing with moderators decisions and instructions in public is an infractable offence.

Chris
11-05-2011, 08:57
That poster will post every now and then with a complete load of bull excreta that Walter Mitty would have not made up. He knows that the admins here cannot touch him because he stays just this side of the line. Everyone should do what i have done and put the fool on ignore

Please don't confuse 'cannot' with 'choose not to'. This is a privately-owned forum, the site owners can do whatever they want. And the rest of us are more than happy to do their bidding. :batty:

At the moment my observation on this thread is that TC is running rings round the lot of you, and he is by no means the only fool to have posted in this thread.

And a general note, not aimed specifically at anyone:

Please do not assume that just because this thread remains open for posting, that we have somehow suspended the forum rules. We have not. There have been more than enough warnings and further examples of baiting, arguing, off-topic posting or challenging moderator posts *will* result in infractions.

If you cannot abide by these instructions, then do not post in the thread at all.

telfordcable
18-05-2011, 13:35
Right the tech guy just been here and say my power level for 100 meg is now resolved and got max out 98.3Meg downloads and 9.83Meg uploads. He say I can continue to kept my VMNG300 for time being until the superhub fixed the firmware until late 2011 and he say that superhub still issues with 100 & 200 Meg

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I am still in talk and discussing with British Telecom Business of possible getting a Leased Line Fibre Optic (1:1) 100Meg down and 100Meg up £799.99 exc vat per month) 12 months contract with no throttle, no traffic management, totally UNLIMITED usages.

Peter_
18-05-2011, 14:04
I am still in talk and discussing with British Telecom Business of possible getting a Leased Line Fibre Optic (1:1) 100Meg down and 100Meg up £799.99 exc vat per month) 12 months contract with no throttle, no traffic management, totally UNLIMITED usages.
And your back in the room.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/56.jpg

borrissey
18-05-2011, 16:08
Just off to watch Lie to me.

Sirius
18-05-2011, 16:21
d f t t

TJS
18-05-2011, 16:22
Right the tech guy just been here and say my power level for 100 meg is now resolved and got max out 98.3Meg downloads and 9.83Meg uploads. He say I can continue to kept my VMNG300 for time being until the superhub fixed the firmware until late 2011 and he say that superhub still issues with 100 & 200 Meg

---------- Post added at 13:35 ---------- Previous post was at 13:29 ----------

I am still in talk and discussing with British Telecom Business of possible getting a Leased Line Fibre Optic (1:1) 100Meg down and 100Meg up £799.99 exc vat per month) 12 months contract with no throttle, no traffic management, totally UNLIMITED usages.

edit: telford you are lied!




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Good! I am not lied as I am honest!

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33675871-finally-arrives-here-page-7.html#post35194257

GrimUpNorth
18-05-2011, 16:33
I am still in talk and discussing with British Telecom Business of possible getting a Leased Line Fibre Optic (1:1) 100Meg down and 100Meg up £799.99 exc vat per month) 12 months contract with no throttle, no traffic management, totally UNLIMITED usages.

You could imagine the scenario.....

17th June 09.45
BT Tech guy done installing good and 99.5Meg up 97Meg down

17th June 09.47
BT calling to come back Tech Guy as not power level good now 93Meg down and 87Meg up

17 June 10.21
Dont need broadband for anything now on dialup with 14400 modem (BT not stopping contract 12 months £958.80 inc monthly)

17 June 10.22
Virgin refuse my calls

Cheers
Grim

Sirius
18-05-2011, 16:35
You could imagine the scenario.....

17th June 09.45
BT Tech guy done installing good and 99.5Meg up 97Meg down

17th June 09.47
BT calling to come back Tech Guy as not power level good now 93Meg down and 87Meg up

17 June 10.21
Dont need broadband for anything now on dialup with 14400 modem (BT not stopping contract 12 months £958.80 inc monthly)

17 June 10.22
Virgin refuse my calls

Cheers
Grim

Excellent :LOL:

TJS
18-05-2011, 16:41
Excellent :LOL:

i'll second that

jtaylor06
18-05-2011, 17:17
Why pay that much money a month just to use broadband.
Surely what TC is on now is adequate for his needs, maybe a lot more than adequate?

Hugh
18-05-2011, 17:23
Perhaps he is just posting for effect, and being successful?

martyh
18-05-2011, 17:23
Why pay that much money a month just to use broadband.
Surely what TC is on now is adequate for his needs, maybe a lot more than adequate?


I'm sure he said somewhere that all he uses the internet for is browsing

Personally i think it's a crock

pip08456
18-05-2011, 17:25
Didn't you lot know? You need a leased 100/100 line for web browsing!

telfordcable
18-05-2011, 17:28
I only joking about leased line as there is no way I ain't paying BT £799.99 exc vat per month just for internet

Sirius
18-05-2011, 17:30
Perhaps he is just posting for effect, and being successful?

:clap: DFTT

zekeisaszekedoes
18-05-2011, 17:34
Grim Up did it perfect :D

I'm feeding the anti-troll so :p:

jtaylor06
18-05-2011, 17:34
:clap: DFTT

I would comment on his last post, but I'm going to take your advice and not feed the troll :D :p:

Sirius
18-05-2011, 17:36
I would comment on his last post, but I'm going to take your advice and not feed the troll :D :p:
Then everyone should put him on ignore you know it makes sense :D

martyh
18-05-2011, 17:36
I only joking about leased line as there is no way I ain't paying BT £799.99 exc vat per month just for internet


well you've already paid a good few grand in the last couple of years so why not go the whole hog :rolleyes:

jtaylor06
18-05-2011, 17:42
Then everyone should put him on ignore you know it makes sense :D

But that would take the humour out of the threads and will stop all popcorn purchases I make ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/38.gif

Edit: Missed out a word :p:

martyh
18-05-2011, 18:00
But that would take the humour out of the threads and will stop all popcorn purchases I make ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/05/38.gif

Edit: Missed out a word :p:


mmmmmm cyber popcorn (drool)

telfordcable
18-05-2011, 18:40
Do u think I should purchase a return flight tickets to attend the cable show: http://2011.thecableshow.com/

martyh
18-05-2011, 18:45
Do u think I should purchase a return flight tickets to attend the cable show: http://2011.thecableshow.com/

nope make it a single

pip08456
18-05-2011, 18:46
No purchase a single ticket to the remotest part of the planet you can think of!

Chris
18-05-2011, 18:54
Seeing as a lot of people who should know better seem incapable of *not* feeding the troll, it's time to take the matter out of your hands.

Thread closed.