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Web-Junkie
15-04-2011, 15:52
Since upgrading from 10mb to 30mb I'm having serious problems downloading from Usenet. I never had problems with my old CM and the VM WGR614 before this!! I mainly use Astraweb but find the same problems with VM too. I get all sorts of errors using Newsbin and this usually results in corrupt files, wondering if it's the SH that's at fault? I had two attenuators on the old modem but didn't put them back (a 10db and 4db) but putting them on made no difference except power level went from 14dbmv to 2dbmv though! I've turned off Flood Detection, IPSEC and PPTP but still get problems, here's a sample of the errors from Astraweb (same problems without SSL too):

[15:08:22] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:08:46] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:08:46] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[15:08:46] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:08:46] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[15:08:46] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:08:46] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[15:09:54] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:09:54] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[15:09:54] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:09:54] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[15:09:54] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:09:54] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[15:09:59] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:09:59] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[15:09:59] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:09:59] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[15:09:59] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:09:59] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[15:10:11] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:10:11] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:10:11] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:10:26] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 9:991
[15:10:26] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:10:26] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:10:59] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:10:59] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:10:59] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:11:16] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:11:16] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:11:16] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:11:31] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:11:31] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:11:31] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:12:35] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[15:12:35] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:12:35] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure


and some from VM:

[15:37:57] ERROR Socket - Error: WSARecv Socket Error Code: 0:866
[15:37:57] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[15:37:57] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:37:57] ERROR Socket - Error: WSASend Socket Error Code: 10038:794
[15:37:57] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[15:37:57] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:37:57] ERROR Download Engine Virgin - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Virgin
[15:38:02] ERROR Socket - Error: WSARecv Socket Error Code: 0:866
[15:38:02] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[15:38:02] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:38:02] ERROR Socket - Error: WSASend Socket Error Code: 10038:794
[15:38:02] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[15:38:02] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - Server: news.virginmedia.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[15:38:02] ERROR Download Engine Virgin - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Virgin
[15:39:44] ERROR Socket - Error: WSARecv Socket Error Code: 0:866
[15:39:44] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:39:44] ERROR Download Engine Virgin - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[15:39:44] ERROR Socket - Error: WSARecv Socket Error Code: 0:866
[15:39:44] ERROR news.virginmedia.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[15:39:44] ERROR Download Engine Virgin - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure

Thing is, if I retry the files that failed then eventually they download ok, so they have not been posted corrupted which means 'something' is corrupting them. I don't have a problem with HTTP downloads, only NNTP! I uninstalled my firewall and AV just to eliminate them but it's still happening? I tried VM's servers and got the same errors/problems? Just to be sure I ran Malwarebytes and found no spyware etc then installed MS Security Essentials and scanned with that and nothing found either so I can safely say it's not a 'bot', hijack or virus!

Is this another SuperHub problem or a result of the new V5.5.2R25 firmware I've unfortunatley been updated with? To be honest, I don't think I was having this much trouble before the f/w update!

Mick Fisher
15-04-2011, 19:05
I fancy I am experiencing the same issue. It fancy it seems worse since R25.

As there is no way to remove the superdud from the equation it is impossible to prove or disprove. :(

Majestic
15-04-2011, 19:30
I'm getting a farly rubbish download rate now, I'm pretty sure it's related to the firmware. The quick we can set a bridge mode, the better.

Web-Junkie
15-04-2011, 23:19
I put my old CM + router back but the old CM needs to be activated/registered again so I'm not going to try that as I don't what will happen to my 30mb so I'm stuck like Mick not knowing if it's the SH as I can't reconnect my previous gear!!

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 00:32
You are being managed by the peer to peer management which is active from 5pm to midnight, try downloading outside these hours

Web-Junkie
16-04-2011, 01:34
Usenet isn't P2P and only VM's server is managed, I've so far been able to download at full speed from Astraweb no matter the time of day, just the errors and corruption is the problem!

Failswitch
16-04-2011, 03:23
Try the following servers ssl-eu.astraweb.com or ssl-us.astraweb.com and see if you get the same error. Having said that, your downstream power level of 14 will need to be lowered by an engineer.

You can also give another client a shot http://sabnzbd.org/

Web-Junkie
16-04-2011, 13:25
I've used all 3 SSL servers both individually and as fill/slave and hit the same problem, also used Forte Agent with similar results. The attenuators were already installed by an engineer, I just forgot to put them back on when I installed the SuperHub!

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 14:44
just take the attenuators off the old modem and put them onto the superhub.

they are simple unscrew things

Web-Junkie
16-04-2011, 15:40
I already have, see my first post, but they made no difference :(

Download Failed (1) (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/10843537.jpg/)

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 16:46
I already have, see my first post, but they made no difference :(

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5120/10843537.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/10843537.jpg/)

that red one in the picture isnt an attenuator, its an equaliser, and whats the one screwed onto that?

An attenuator reduces power levels, and an equaliser increases them, you should take the equaliser off

---------- Post added at 16:46 ---------- Previous post was at 16:43 ----------

if the other one is a 10db equaliser, then you should take them both off and plug the coax straight into the superhub

Ignitionnet
16-04-2011, 17:22
The equaliser doesn't increase power levels it smooths them out over the RF spectrum so that the slope isn't too high. Higher frequencies attenuate more over distance than low ones, the equaliser attenuates progressively across the spectrum to balance this out.

The only thing that increases power levels is an amplifier, a passive bit of metal cannot.

Web-Junkie
16-04-2011, 17:58
Seeing as both of them were installed by a VM tech I'm leaving them on unless Ig or someone else working for VM say otherwise :) It can't screw it up anymore than it already is though!

Here's my collection of VM Attenuators/Equalisers:



http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/565/1064u.jpg (http://img535.imageshack.us/i/1064u.jpg/)

Can't remember where the 6db one came from?

Chrysalis
16-04-2011, 19:31
I got the 10db beast along with a 3db one.

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 19:58
I got the 10db beast along with a 3db one.

iv got a 15db!!

Web-Junkie
16-04-2011, 20:31
iv got a 15db!!

OK, I'll see your 15db and raise you this:

Download Failed (1) (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/6db.jpg/)

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 00:13
OK, I'm now convinced the SuperHub is the problem, why? How's this:

Download 5 x 50mb files using my Sky Broadband:

[23:25:55] HIGH - High Speed File Creation Mode: Enabled

Downloading the same 5 files via Virgin:

[23:25:55] HIGH - High Speed File Creation Mode: Enabled
[00:03:01] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:03:01] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[00:03:01] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:01] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[00:03:01] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:01] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[00:03:15] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:03:15] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[00:03:29] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:03:29] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[00:03:44] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:03:44] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[00:03:44] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:44] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[00:03:44] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:44] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[00:03:48] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:03:48] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to Read Response From server: Socket - Read From Server Failed
[00:03:48] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:48] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - failed to send command to server: Unspecified Network Error
[00:03:48] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Server: ssl.astraweb.com SendCommand - Server Disabled Service on connection:
[00:03:48] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_DI - Failed to retrieve Article from Server Astraweb
[00:04:22] ERROR InterSocket - SSL Connection Failed: 10060 - Line: 543
[00:04:33] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:04:33] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[00:04:33] ERROR Download Engine Astraweb - DL_SDM - Network Read Failure
[00:06:22] ERROR Socket - Error: SSL Socket Error Code: 0:991
[00:06:22] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - NNTPServer: Timeout - Waiting for Server to send Data: Socket - Read or Write Timeout
[00:06:22] ERROR ssl.astraweb.com - Unable to read Greetings from Server: Socket - Read or Write Timeout

It's not Rocket Science is it?

I had my Sky router setup alongside my VM SH so all I had to do is plug the network cable into whichever router I wanted to test with! It still doesn't fix the problem but now I know what we all really know is that the SupuerHub is not that 'Super'. So where's that bit in the contract that says if VM change the service to the point it adversley affects you, you can cancel :)

Mick Fisher
18-04-2011, 10:41
I've been seeing errors like that from before superdud days but since superdud they seem to have increased?

So maybe they started when I got moved onto the overlay network or was it when application management started?

So does:
VM BB generally = inferior NNTP performance.
VM BB generally + Superdud = even more inferior NNTP performance.

Seems like it. :(

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 15:24
Thing is Mick, I can't say I ever saw this problem when I had my SACM + WGR614 when on 10mb and to be honest I can't remember this happening pre R25! When I got my SH it had R20 installed and now, like many, have R25 and it's pants :(

philipp
18-04-2011, 15:45
Its definitely the superhub I feel after I noticed strange goings on after the r25 update about 2 weeks ago. I get disconnections from the server (astraweb) while downloading headers through virgin. Using my adsl line or vpn with virgin the disconnections go away.

craigj2k12
18-04-2011, 15:54
OK, I'll see your 15db and raise you this:

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4994/6db.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/6db.jpg/)

okay, what is that?

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 16:35
@philipp: I'd forgot about my SKY ADSL so at least it came in useful for something, just not downloading at 3.5mbps!!

okay, what is that?

It's a 6db attenuator, just in a plug not a box :) I've also got one of these:

Download Failed (1) (http://img860.imageshack.us/i/splitter.jpg/)

craigj2k12
18-04-2011, 16:36
@philipp: I'd forgot about my SKY ADSL so at least it came in useful for something, just not downloading at 3.5mbps!!



It's a 6db attenuator, just in a plug not a box :) I've also got one of these:

http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3812/splitter.jpg (http://img860.imageshack.us/i/splitter.jpg/)

thats just a splitter isnt it? also, why have you got this, I thought VM used technitix

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 16:41
I used to have a Samsung VM box in my room as well as a SACM for BB, so the installer put a splitter on. When I left VM TV the splitter was took off and kept, they only wanted the box back.

Mick Fisher
18-04-2011, 17:43
Thing is Mick, I can't say I ever saw this problem when I had my SACM + WGR614 when on 10mb and to be honest I can't remember this happening pre R25! When I got my SH it had R20 installed and now, like many, have R25 and it's pants :(
I'm finding that although reported as being complete, after download there are blocks missing all over the place.

I do seem to be having to use pars on more seemingly complete dl's than I can ever remember.

Trouble is you can never get anywhere on these type of issues as VM will just blame the News Provider and the News Provider will just blame VM.

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 18:17
I'm finding that although reported as being complete, after download there are blocks missing all over the place.

I do seem to be having to use pars on more seemingly complete dl's than I can ever remember.

Trouble is you can never get anywhere on these type of issues as VM will just blame the News Provider and the News Provider will just blame VM.

Hence being able to prove it's VM at fault by using ADSL, not cable, and being able to get consitent, complete and un-corrupted downloads using the same set of files, the same news provider and the same computer! Never thought i'd ever hear myself saying anything good about ADSL :shocked:

I'm also finding that a fair few files once downloaded as complete are in fact corrupt, but Newsbin has no error in it's log about bad chunks or any other indication of corruption, just the errors i've already posted. I've been using Astraweb ever since their retention was a whopping 15 days, and since the installation of R25 (:td:) it's been the worst I've ever known it!

Mick Fisher
18-04-2011, 18:29
Hence being able to prove it's VM at fault by using ADSL, not cable, and being able to get consitent, complete and un-corrupted downloads using the same set of files, the same news provider and the same computer! Never thought i'd ever hear myself saying anything good about ADSL :shocked:

I'm also finding that a fair few files once downloaded as complete are in fact corrupt, but Newsbin has no error in it's log about bad chunks or any other indication of corruption, just the errors i've already posted. I've been using Astraweb ever since their retention was a whopping 15 days, and since the installation of R25 (:td:) it's been the worst I've ever known it!
Your ADSL experiment seems a good pointer BUT although more files seem corrupt via VM/superdud/R25 a goodly percentage are perfect.

It is the lack of consistency that has me worried. I'm not defending VM or the superdud but there just isn't enough conclusive evidence to be sure.

Web-Junkie
18-04-2011, 23:36
Mick, when I can download 100% non-corrupt files with an ADSL connection but a connection to the same files and servers using the SH produces erratic downloads, timeout errors, SSL errors, corrupt files etc, then I can't imagine why you wouldn't point the finger squarely at the SH/VM? I would have thought that to be 'evidence' enough that the problem is with VM, not SKY!

I've been using my ADSL connection to download error free for the last day, not one error in Newsbins log, but the moment I connect to the SH and try downloading then guess what happens?

Have I now got to try a dial up connection and see if I get problems then :D

Mick Fisher
19-04-2011, 12:40
Mick, when I can download 100% non-corrupt files with an ADSL connection but a connection to the same files and servers using the SH produces erratic downloads, timeout errors, SSL errors, corrupt files etc, then I can't imagine why you wouldn't point the finger squarely at the SH/VM? I would have thought that to be 'evidence' enough that the problem is with VM, not SKY!

I've been using my ADSL connection to download error free for the last day, not one error in Newsbins log, but the moment I connect to the SH and try downloading then guess what happens?

Have I now got to try a dial up connection and see if I get problems then :D
That seems pretty conclusive but I wonder why all NNTP dl's using the superdud are not affected but saying that, not all HTTP dl's suffer the connection reset bug either. :confused:

philipp
19-04-2011, 12:55
web-junkie: Are you using standard ports or the alternative ones?

Web-Junkie
19-04-2011, 16:37
@Mick: I've also had some HTTP downloads fail as well, in IE's download manager there is a mesasge that says the file failed to download so you keep 'resuming' and it eventually downloads!

@philipp: I've used the Non-SSL servers, default SSL ports and the alternate SSL ports and all produce the same errors!!

philipp
21-04-2011, 20:19
my header download problem has seemed to have disappeared with r26 (turn off router for about 30 secs to get it). myabe your download problem will improve also?

Web-Junkie
22-04-2011, 15:19
Phil, I've just noticed an improvement in downloads too! Just done a 4GB download via VM servers and NO errors in Newsbins logging tab, thought something was strange so checked the forum and saw R26 has been pushed out, checked my SH and it's already been updated with R26 without me doing anything!

So did another download of 1GB via Astraweb using the same setup as before and again NO errors in the logging tab. Guess VM finally got the message that R25 was borked!! Fingers crossed it stays this way after the next update!!

Mick Fisher
22-04-2011, 18:00
Yep a big improvement with R26 wth regards to downloading errors with firewall on or off.

Unfortunately the firewall seems to slow downloading with speeds up and down like the proverbial so it's back to running with firewall off. No different to R24 really.

Web-Junkie
22-04-2011, 18:10
I use Comodo Firewall Mick, so the SH firewall is turned off. Prefer Comodo as it's easy to manage.

Mick Fisher
22-04-2011, 18:48
I use Private Firewall, small footprint and fairly unobtrusive. So I'm not really bothered about the hubs firewall either.

I was really just trying out R26.

I just tried a movie trailer on youtube. 1st watch with FW off it continually buffered. 2nd watch with FW on....perfect. 3rd watch with FW off.....also perfect???????????

:D Roll on bridge mode, I'm getting really peed off with it now.

pip08456
22-04-2011, 18:53
I use Private Firewall, small footprint and fairly unobtrusive. So I'm not really bothered about the hubs firewall either.

I was really just trying out R26.

I just tried a movie trailer on youtube. 1st watch with FW off it continually buffered. 2nd watch with FW on....perfect. 3rd watch with FW off.....also perfect???????????

:D Roll on bridge mode, I'm getting really peed off with it now.

I'm loving Infinity!!!!!:D:D:D:D

Mick Fisher
23-04-2011, 12:42
I'm loving Infinity!!!!!:D:D:D:D
Good to hear. :tu:

Although I would be more enthusiastic if BT wasn't involved. :disturbd:
Hopefully Be will provide a FTTC product and although I know it will use BT infrastructure I think I will be very enthusiastic about it. :woot:

Web-Junkie
23-04-2011, 14:55
Seems the problems have returned :mad:

Just downloaded some 100mb files from VM and 75% came down corrupt, have an Astraweb server as a fill in case of missing chunks but they all came from VM even though the log said 'post has no body' and no errors about corruption in the log. Tried a couple of the same files via Astraweb and they were corrupt too, same timeout errors as before.

Tried same post from another poster and its crawling, I know VM throttle NNTP but this is not a constant speed, it's download then pause, then start then pause again and still corrupt downloads! Same files from Astraweb were at full speed and were fine? So here we go on the bloody VM Merry-go-round again :td:

I almost get the feeling this either deliberate or just one big [Mod Edit] up with the SuperHub! Will try in 3pm-4pm window when nothing is throttled and see what the result is!

Hugh
23-04-2011, 15:08
Don't use asterisks to avoid the swear filter - this is against Site T&Cs.

Web-Junkie
23-04-2011, 16:13
Downloaded from Astrawed and only 1 corrupt file, download anything from VM and speed still throttled, speed awful and all downloads corrupt! Nothing in the Service Status about NNTP, effing useless!! As another test I tried Astraweb + VM so chunks being pulled from both servers and all downloads were corrupt where chunks from VM are included in the download, what's more alarming is trying to download those files again from Astraweb still results in corrupt files! 'kin fed up!

DABhand
23-04-2011, 16:28
WJ it may be when you download again it may be using whatever you use to grab from the binaries groups is stored in a cache so it just quickly reinstates them from its previous state, if they do try clearing out the cache and try the files again.

As for the highwind front ends, yeah not used them for a very long time, there is always problems with corrupt headers etc, told them about this time last year I think about it, they didn't fix it until 3 months later.. after which the p2p and usenet throttling happened and trying to download headers at 50KB/s was a joke. So I gave up :P

Web-Junkie
23-04-2011, 18:42
I use Newsbin, have done for many years, and don't believe it keeps a cache. All parts of a download are just combined into 1 file and the parts deleted, so there are no parts left anywhere to use again, you have to force NB to re-download a file again as the dupe checker kicks in otherwise! I might have a corrupt post as the SFV says 1 file is corrupt but the accompanying PAR2 says all files OK :dozey: As for VM, currently everything is a joke regards their NNTP servers and the SuperHub!

DABhand
23-04-2011, 19:33
I used Newsbin Pro, think it was v4.0.1, but it would keep a cache and each time I download a file again it would just use whatever parts it had stored.

Unless newer versions clear the cache automatically.

In the later stages even with the corrupt binaries, I used a free grabber Powergrab 2000.. for some reason I got better downloads from it than Newsbin. The author also made Powerpost which is another free util which posts to newsgroups and makes SFV, NZB and PAR files on the fly.

Mick Fisher
23-04-2011, 19:43
Any Highwinds reseller is the biggest :td: there is in the NNTP world. :D

The trouble is uploaders to Highwinds resellers generate corrupt files which then percolate all over Usenet. Users trying to download these will find them corrupt on all news servers. Pars may fix but will probably suffer the same corruption as the files, and so, will be useless.

All news servers have problems from time to time and usually fix them in a day or so. As noted it can take months for Highwind to sort their problems.

jrhnewark
24-04-2011, 02:35
Although I would be more enthusiastic if BT wasn't involved. :disturbd:
Hopefully Be will provide a FTTC product and although I know it will use BT infrastructure I think I will be very enthusiastic about it. :woot:Absolutely... my Be contract is up in September and I'd rather not have to move away from them. But, in all fairness, I think it's BT's rather fat wholesale costs that Be are currently trying to beat down.

However, in other "high speed" discussion I doubt that the people who're working on SuperHub have ever heard of Usenet...