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b8birmingham
10-04-2011, 16:37
Thought i would join up and make sure i am getting what i pay for and post some settings make sure everything is good and if not what can i do cheers all in advanced

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/84.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Also how many virgin customers get the proper speed they were promised i know i do even at peak times only wish i could say the same for adsl services in brum.

ps this getting the fastest speed possible is addictive gone from a dongle to 30 meg dont think i could ever use a dongle again lol

Neo-Tech
10-04-2011, 17:32
Always get full speed on Speedtest sites. Usually get up to 4.0MB/s on downloads.

Wireless in my room is like a yoyo, one minute it'll be 30MB, next it'll be 2, or 5, or 10, or whatever.

grim reaper
10-04-2011, 17:44
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Hugh
10-04-2011, 17:51
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/82.png

b8birmingham
10-04-2011, 19:34
wow ok 2 questions is my ping any good and why is my upload so low (compared to the one or two above). Cheers all

Hugh
10-04-2011, 19:58
a) your ping is very good
b) has your area had the upload uplift?

kangocartman
10-04-2011, 20:47
Brum (Small Heath) hasn't had the uplift yet it's not supposed to be until August
I consistently get 30.5 down and 1.07 up 7ms ping on average so pretty happy overall

Chrysalis
11-04-2011, 01:04
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/81.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

a long way away from my past VM performance, just gone midnight would be a spike on utilisation as shaping is disabled and still good speed.

jtaylor06
11-04-2011, 01:44
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/80.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

data0002
11-04-2011, 03:12
This is what i get on a 50Mb/s line

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/79.png

it can be anyware from 12 - 21Mb/s

horseman
11-04-2011, 05:33
fwiw 10mbps/"L" tier off brig16 (Cisco 1012) Brighton BN3
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/78.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

SamKnows YTD average = 9.71/1.01/21.8

All totally misleading/inconsistent indicator of performance when taken in isolation unless you include in context of client/server processor load, server location, max route speed, route/hops, rtt, etc , how the averages are determined, clock accuracy and myriad of other factors.

A useful as stating 10.2s 0-60 on my Suzuki Alto without gross laden weight,altitude,inclines,barometric pressure,RH,gearbox type, etc

VisualWare:
http://www.imgbox.co.uk/upload/thumbs/2011-04/f4c70ed4.jpg (http://www.imgbox.co.uk/?photo=2011-04/f4c70ed4) http://www.imgbox.co.uk/upload/thumbs/2011-04/339c055b.jpg (http://www.imgbox.co.uk/?photo=2011-04/339c055b) http://www.imgbox.co.uk/upload/thumbs/2011-04/75df53e6.jpg (http://www.imgbox.co.uk/?photo=2011-04/75df53e6)

Peter_
11-04-2011, 06:50
Exactly as expected.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/77.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

PowerUser
11-04-2011, 14:55
A rare sight for me.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/76.png (http://www.speedtest.net/result/1246781540.png)

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All totally misleading/inconsistent indicator of performance when taken in isolation unless you include in context of client/server processor load, server location, max route speed, route/hops, rtt, etc , how the averages are determined, clock accuracy and myriad of other factors.

A useful as stating 10.2s 0-60 on my Suzuki Alto without gross laden weight,altitude,inclines,barometric pressure,RH,gearbox type, etc VisualWare:

Don't forget Road closures, (Port Throttling)

Draag
11-04-2011, 18:03
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/72.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Almost hitting 50Mb.

nigelmclelland
11-04-2011, 19:44
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/71.png

Virgin 30Mb on SuperHub.

craigj2k12
11-04-2011, 22:09
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/72.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Almost hitting 50Mb.

almost not :shocked:

your power levels and snr okay?

Hugh
12-04-2011, 10:04
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/71.png

Virgin 30Mb on SuperHub.
Wired or wireless connection?

nigelmclelland
12-04-2011, 10:40
Wireless!

pip08456
12-04-2011, 17:08
If your equipment is wireless g then there's nothing wrong with your speed test. If wireless N there is.

Tests should always be done wired due the variables with wireless.

Hugh
12-04-2011, 17:16
Wireless!As pip says, for the most accurate of readings, the test should be done with a wired connection.

nigelmclelland
13-04-2011, 09:55
If your equipment is wireless g then there's nothing wrong with your speed test. If wireless N there is.

Tests should always be done wired due the variables with wireless.

Ok, will try again later wired, incidently how do I know if i have wireless G or N?

roughbeast
13-04-2011, 14:43
This is what I get, day in day out, any time of day. Variation is at the level of 2nd. decimal point. I remain very impressed with the consistency.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/70.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Using NAMESCO/LONDON server.

Always get this quality on ping test too.

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38725906.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

Jitter is never higher than 1.


Wired!!! lol

Welshchris
13-04-2011, 15:19
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/69.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

REM
13-04-2011, 19:03
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/68.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Can't complain.

craigj2k12
13-04-2011, 19:13
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/68.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Can't complain.

turn your firewall of!!!

REM
13-04-2011, 19:23
turn your firewall of!!!

Thanks

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/64.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I didn't have a firewall but I had "Little Snitch" running. It's been bugging me for months why It was so slow.

nigelmclelland
13-04-2011, 19:31
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/65.png

As promised 30Mb WIRED connection. On SuperHub.

Download Failed (1)

Below same connection Wirless G.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/66.png

craigj2k12
13-04-2011, 20:17
Thanks

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/64.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I didn't have a firewall but I had "Little Snitch" running. It's been bugging me for months why It was so slow.

what? are you on 200mbit?

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/65.png

As promised 30Mb WIRED connection. On SuperHub.

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38740791.png

Below same connection Wirless G.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/66.png

post your connection stats from the advances interface on the superhub

pip08456
14-04-2011, 00:56
Check your wireless drivers are up to date. Don't rely on windows updates for this either. Go to the manufacturers website.

craigj2k12
14-04-2011, 00:59
Check your wireless drivers are up to date. Don't rely on windows updates for this either. Go to the manufacturers website.

his 1st one was wired

pip08456
14-04-2011, 01:07
his 1st one was wired

I know.

The difference in wired and wireless has nothing to do with his BB connection.

craigj2k12
14-04-2011, 17:37
I know.

The difference in wired and wireless has nothing to do with his BB connection.

yeah but you told him to update his wireless drivers when the speedtest was wired!! :dozey:

g0mit
14-04-2011, 18:01
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/63.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

pip08456
14-04-2011, 18:02
yeah but you told him to update his wireless drivers when the speedtest was wired!! :dozey:

I was answering post 18.

b8birmingham
15-04-2011, 01:58
wow i peeps are getting 200 mb ?

beller
15-04-2011, 02:14
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/60.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.pingtest.net/result/38820344.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

roughbeast
15-04-2011, 10:09
wow i peeps are getting 200 mb ?

There are 2 people in Coventry still on the 'proof of concept trial' connection getting expected speeds up to 190Mb. I mostly got 186Mb. Although the trial is officially over, the techy has left the connections running, but not is fixing them when 100Mb upgrade work produces fatal interference. My trial connection died some weeks ago.

Apart from that there are no ordinary members of the public getting near 200Mb.( Corporate connections will sometimes be much higher.) If they are getting high results it is because their home system is struggling to give the processor time needed for Java or Flash-based speed tests. In these cases they get wild results with the dial needle all over the place and occasionally hitting very high or very low figures. Many complaints about VM arise from problems with people's own systems. This can be put right through a processor upgrade or reducing / switching off the number of programmes running in the background whilst you run tests.

pip08456
15-04-2011, 10:25
It is also caused by some AV progs, Kaspersky being the worst offender. Disabling AV while running the test solves it though.

roughbeast
15-04-2011, 10:34
It is also caused by some AV progs, Kaspersky being the worst offender. Disabling AV while running the test solves it though.

Precisely. That is one of the background progs I had in mind. I solved the AV prog issue by using Microsoft Security Essentials instead of one of the big AV players. This runs with virtually no processor usage. Just in case a nasty bug slips through I keep SpyHunter in reserve, but not running in the background.

Chrysalis
15-04-2011, 11:00
the high speedtest results is more to do with the AV programs proxy the test itself and the speedtest gives the result from the proxy to the browser.

GazCBG
15-04-2011, 14:54
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/59.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.pingtest.net/result/38845198.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

50Mb via Modem

roughbeast
15-04-2011, 15:18
the high speedtest results is more to do with the AV programs proxy the test itself and the speedtest gives the result from the proxy to the browser.

During the Coventry speed trials we were asked to check our processor usage during the speed tests. If the usage was consistently up near 90% we were advised to find ways of reducing processor usage by other programmes. When I was trialling a modem configured for 370Mb/25Mb I couldn't get consistent speeds until I upgraded my processor to a decent quad core. Then they settled close to 370Mb/24Mb.

Are you telling me processor usage is not an issue?

craigj2k12
15-04-2011, 16:02
During the Coventry speed trials we were asked to check our processor usage during the speed tests. If the usage was consistently up near 90% we were advised to find ways of reducing processor usage by other programmes. When I was trialling a modem configured for 370Mb/25Mb I couldn't get consistent speeds until I upgraded my processor to a decent quad core. Then they settled close to 370Mb/24Mb.

Are you telling me processor usage is not an issue?

he said background programs are more of an issue.

computers nowadays are more than capable, but people load them full of programs which constantly run in the background. Iv been asked to service computers and upgrade them becuase they "needed more Ram and faster processors, all I do is format them, install xp/7, send it back will a bill for new processor and ram, and make myself a fat bit of profit

Hugh
15-04-2011, 16:08
Don't they notice when the check the "System" page?

craigj2k12
15-04-2011, 16:12
Don't they notice when the check the "System" page?

the people i deal with dont know much about computers, they know how to install crap onto them, things like limewire, msn, yahoo messenger, bittorrent clients. also, i find a load of trial software and games!! most of which, the trials have run out, and all they need is un-installing!

another 'slow down' is antivirus and firewall. people have norton, which slows the PC down no end, they also have anti virus software which runs scheduled scans daily, and they moan when the computers freezing becuase the scan is set to exempt or high priority

Chrysalis
15-04-2011, 16:15
During the Coventry speed trials we were asked to check our processor usage during the speed tests. If the usage was consistently up near 90% we were advised to find ways of reducing processor usage by other programmes. When I was trialling a modem configured for 370Mb/25Mb I couldn't get consistent speeds until I upgraded my processor to a decent quad core. Then they settled close to 370Mb/24Mb.

Are you telling me processor usage is not an issue?

it may be on 400mbit and it may also be on lower speeds if the machine is low spec, but on my box during a speedtest cpu usage is below 10%. However on my laptop it is close to about 80%, the laptop is a single core celeron.

in this regard tho its worth noting flash based speedtests use significantly more cpu than normal downloading at same speeds. So I am not saying its not an issue but at current retail speeds cpu is much less likely to be an issue than is for those trials. What is defenitly an issue is AV's proxying the data and causing a duff result.

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he said background programs are more of an issue.

computers nowadays are more than capable, but people load them full of programs which constantly run in the background. Iv been asked to service computers and upgrade them becuase they "needed more Ram and faster processors, all I do is format them, install xp/7, send it back will a bill for new processor and ram, and make myself a fat bit of profit

LOL and you not been caught yet?

craigj2k12
15-04-2011, 16:18
it may be on 400mbit and it may also be on lower speeds if the machine is low spec, but on my box during a speedtest cpu usage is below 10%. However on my laptop it is close to about 80%, the laptop is a single core celeron.

in this regard tho its worth noting flash based speedtests use significantly more cpu than normal downloading at same speeds. So I am not saying its not an issue but at current retail speeds cpu is much less likely to be an issue than is for those trials. What is defenitly an issue is AV's proxying the data and causing a duff result.

most users will test the broadband speeds from time to time, to make sure they are getting what they pay for, it can be confusing for less advanced user if they can only download at 6MB on a 50Mb connection, they think they are downloading at an eighth of what they are paying for, when actually 6MB and 50Mb are the same thing

(i do hope for arguments sake i have got Mb and MB the right way round!!! :erm:)

---------- Post added at 15:18 ---------- Previous post was at 15:17 ----------



LOL and you not been caught yet?

Geniuses dont get caught!!

I only do it to the fathead managers who are too rich to give a crap anyway. My mates always get a better deal! ;)

roughbeast
15-04-2011, 16:34
he said background programs are more of an issue.

computers nowadays are more than capable, but people load them full of programs which constantly run in the background. Iv been asked to service computers and upgrade them becuase they "needed more Ram and faster processors, all I do is format them, install xp/7, send it back will a bill for new processor and ram, and make myself a fat bit of profit

Tell me where your shops is so I can avoid it. :nono:

grim reaper
15-04-2011, 19:05
all I do is format them, install xp/7, send it back will a bill for new processor and ram, and make myself a fat bit of profit

isn't that technically known as fraud

pip08456
16-04-2011, 00:16
most users will test the broadband speeds from time to time, to make sure they are getting what they pay for, it can be confusing for less advanced user if they can only download at 6MB on a 50Mb connection, they think they are downloading at an eighth of what they are paying for, when actually 6MB and 50Mb are the same thing

(i do hope for arguments sake i have got Mb and MB the right way round!!! :erm:)[COLOR="Silver"]
)

Rest easy, you got Mb and MB correctly. (8Mb=1MB).

cwj2008
16-04-2011, 00:21
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1254106858.png

Jimmy-J
16-04-2011, 01:07
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/56.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

100Mb lol. But ohh, what a lovely ping. :D

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 01:23
Manchester server is a POS. maxes out at 30 meg when no one else is using it at the time

carlwaring
16-04-2011, 10:54
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/54.png


If nothing else, this thread does seem to indicate (in the same, non-scientific way that is often used against them ;)) that VM does mostly provide the speed people pay for :D

That said, 13% not getting the speed is way too high.

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 15:50
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/54.png


If nothing else, this thread does seem to indicate (in the same, non-scientific way that is often used against them ;)) that VM does mostly provide the speed people pay for :D

That said, 13% not getting the speed is way too high.

yeah, but your getting 9.7 and paying for 10. I presume you have put on the vote that you are getting the speed that you should. some people might be a bit weird and say that they are 300kb short of their speed and put that they arent getting the right speed.

another explanation is that their is a fault, or area over-utilisation

carlwaring
16-04-2011, 17:04
Or it's down to over-heads; or something. Besides, if someone wants to be pedantic over 300k then that's their own problem :)

craigj2k12
16-04-2011, 17:40
isn't that technically known as fraud

sue me b!@tch

nigelmclelland
20-04-2011, 22:30
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/43.png

AppleMac book, No firewall wireless 30Mb. Perhaps AV and firewall Do slow things down as previously remarked in this thread?

jordyGFC
21-04-2011, 18:43
They just need to fix 50meg upload speeds from 4.7ish to 5 :)

pip08456
21-04-2011, 19:59
They just need to fix 50meg upload speeds from 4.7ish to 5 :)

4.7ish + overheads = 5. It appears to be the only tier where no allowance has been made for the overheads with the upstream upgrade.

When first rolled out it had that allowance so that speed test sites reported back 1.5.

Toto
21-04-2011, 20:16
I get this:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/39.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/39.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
And:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/40.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Pretty happy :)

craigj2k12
21-04-2011, 20:18
I get this:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/39.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/39.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
And:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/04/40.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Pretty happy :)

those are both the same speedtest lol 1262855206

b8birmingham
21-04-2011, 23:33
wow nice to see this topic going strong keep it going people imagine this time next year ?

VIRGIN WORLDS FASTEST INTERNET

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2011/04/21/virgin-to-trial-world-s-fastest-cable-broad/1