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craigj2k12
29-03-2011, 19:04
Ill be getting my VMNG300 this week, and I wanted to know whats the best router to use with it?

Ic been looking at the Buffalo Airstation Nfiniti, seems pretty good, and £50 on play.com, although on play it does say that the LAN ports are 10/100, but on the buffalo website it says gigabit?

General Maximus
29-03-2011, 19:08
I know everyone is going to go against me on this but i have always been a massive fan of Linksys. I had the wrt54g when I was on 20mbit and I have got the 150N now I am on 50mbit. I have never had a problem with either and they have always been absolutely fantastic.

craigj2k12
29-03-2011, 19:13
i dont mind everyone going against opinions on routers!

I had a belkin n1 vision when i was back on adsl

I never had a problem with the router. the only fault was the crappy line from talktalk


does anyone have any experience of the buffalo airstation nfiniti?

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those linksys ones look a bit ugly
... i need something shiny to go next to my beautiful vmng300 lol

Nopanic
29-03-2011, 19:53
lol you're proud of your VMNG achievement :)

The Superhub is nice looking and a decent router why not get one of those ..

*runs*

craigj2k12
29-03-2011, 20:21
i will agree it is nice looking, and luckily iv got one!!!!!!


.... well, unluckily

doh

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the buffalo airstation nfiniti on play.com
http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/17469528/Buffalo-AirStation-NFINITI-Wireless-N-HighPower-Router-Access-Point/Product.html?searchtype=allproducts&searchsource=0&searchstring=buffalo+airstation+nfiniti&urlrefer=search
note the "10/100 auto sensing switch"

on the buffalo website
http://www.buffalotech.com/products/wireless/routers-and-access-points/airstation-nfiniti-wireless-n-dual-band-high-power-router-access-point-wzr-hp-ag300h/
says gigabit

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never mind, the one on play.com is a different model all together

RUSTY
29-03-2011, 21:40
Belkin for me.

craigj2k12
29-03-2011, 23:17
which belkin, any recommended?

Failswitch
30-03-2011, 00:03
which belkin, any recommended?

Just out of curiosity what problems have you had with the Superhub that you're going back to the VMNG300 modem?

I ditched the Belkin N1 Vision + VMNG300 combo for the Superhub. Belkin haven't updated the ageing firmware in years. My personal dislikes were that the N1 Vision didn't display manually configured wired connections and the lack of (non existent to be precise) stats via its web admin control panel.

So far the Superhub has lived up to expectations and the throughput of the wireless side is as good as the Belkin when using N devices capable of 270 Mbps. I haven't used the wireless side as much and there are still some gripes especially with the admin panel.

Chrysalis
30-03-2011, 01:47
most of my experience is with adsl routers.

when I was on ntl at my old property I remember my modem been plugged direct into pc and using internet connection sharing, so the dir615 is the first router I have used for cable.

as far as adsl routers go I found netgear to be the lowest quality, which had weird issues like dhcp issues, reboots when changing minor settings (sounds familiar?), unexpected reboots and I have also never much looked like netgear's gui style. Billion's are much more robust but very expensive. Speedtouch not packed with features but generally stable and doing its job.

Dlink seems from my experience of the dir615 a good brand, and I have been considering buying a dir825 or dir655, the main thing putting me of been the colour as I want another black router, also the fact at the moment the superhub cant do bridge modem and not been too happy been forced to use double nat.

The cable router market never seemed as big as the adsl market and I think could well shrink now with the current superhub situation.

weesteev
30-03-2011, 08:44
Dlink 655 or the 855 if you want to drop more cash. The Netgear WNR3500 is not to bad, pretty good wireless coverage. The Belkin N1 vision is an overpriced pile of junk, more bells and whistles than substance in my opinion.

Or you could get a cheap Dlink 615 and fire up DD-WRT if you want to go custom.

Finally, the Linksys routers that were king for so long are just average these days, unless you drop some cash on something like the E3000 from Linksys which is one of the best dual band (affordable) routers on the market.

Although the very expensive E4200 series from Linksys looks the bomb!

Skie
30-03-2011, 11:42
The Asus RT-N16 is bloody good if you want custom firmware and a fast processor to handle lots of stuff. Great range too.

craigj2k12
30-03-2011, 12:30
i have to agree the linksys E4200 does look like the bomb.

thats the kind of thing im after, but for a little less monies

chris150488
30-03-2011, 14:35
lol you're proud of your VMNG achievement :)

The Superhub is nice looking and a decent router why not get one of those ..

*runs*


Dont want to seem rude here but how can you say virgin media super hub is a good hub, yes its great looking but since i got mine my speeds are ***** and my ps3 wont connect to it

weesteev
30-03-2011, 14:40
Dont want to seem rude here but how can you say virgin media super hub is a good hub, yes its great looking but since i got mine my speeds are ***** and my ps3 wont connect to it

Because not everyone has issues with it. My Superhub performs better than my VMNG300 with a dlink 655 so I would have to agree with Nopanic. I know this example isn't the same for everyone but generally the Superhub is a good piece of kit, and when these bugs are ironed out, all will be forgotten.

craigj2k12
30-03-2011, 14:51
that was clearly a joke about the superhub, hence my original post says its getting swapped for a VMNG300, which by the way, arrived this morning!

Failswitch
30-03-2011, 15:29
Because not everyone has issues with it. My Superhub performs better than my VMNG300 with a dlink 655 so I would have to agree with Nopanic. I know this example isn't the same for everyone but generally the Superhub is a good piece of kit, and when these bugs are ironed out, all will be forgotten.

You've hit the nail on the head there. Hope they add a reboot option to the web admin panel *hint* *hint* :)

zekeisaszekedoes
30-03-2011, 17:29
One of these. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-WR1043ND-Ultimate-Wireless-Gigabit/dp/B002YETVTQ)

Ignore the idiot reviews on there, this is a great router. About the only thing it won't do is broadcast on the 5Ghz band, but at the price hardly a big deal. Nice, stable Atheros chipsets in their products.

nick2xuk
30-03-2011, 17:57
The Asus RT-N16 is bloody good if you want custom firmware and a fast processor to handle lots of stuff. Great range too.

He's not wrong!

TheJokersCard
30-03-2011, 18:22
I think I need to pick up a new router, this WNR2000 is basically peeing me off big time. Now I know why VM gave me it because its cheap rubbish.

Nopanic
30-03-2011, 18:28
Dont want to seem rude here but how can you say virgin media super hub is a good hub, yes its great looking but since i got mine my speeds are ***** and my ps3 wont connect to it

:doh:

that was clearly a joke about the superhub, hence my original post says its getting swapped for a VMNG300, which by the way, arrived this morning!


:cool:

craigj2k12
30-03-2011, 21:25
do any routers do this, or is it even possible to have 2 or more DMZ hosts?

can a public IP be assigned to more than 1 device, preferably 3?

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please can someone give me some help, im thinking of going for the linksys e4200

can anyone confirm that this router is the 'bomb' as has been mentioned. its made by cisco so its probably pretty robust, I need to order it tonight as well, I have resorted to going back to the superhub for its wireless capabilities (sort of, (it has wireless, about 10 metres away from it lol))

the e4300 has proper dual band as well operating separate 450mb and 300mb at the same time which looks pretty good

pip08456
01-04-2011, 00:03
do any routers do this, or is it even possible to have 2 or more DMZ hosts?

can a public IP be assigned to more than 1 device, preferably 3?

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please can someone give me some help, im thinking of going for the linksys e4200

can anyone confirm that this router is the 'bomb' as has been mentioned. its made by cisco so its probably pretty robust, I need to order it tonight as well, I have resorted to going back to the superhub for its wireless capabilities (sort of, (it has wireless, about 10 metres away from it lol))

the e4300 has proper dual band as well operating separate 450mb and 300mb at the same time which looks pretty good

All devices connected to the router will appear to have the same public IP addy to the outside world. They each have their own private IP given to them by the router.

This is the whole point of NAT in a router. The router has the public IP, knows which private IP has initiated the connection and routes all incoming traffic initiated by the particular device in the private network to it. Any other connected device has their initiated traffic routed to them in the same way.

craigj2k12
01-04-2011, 12:47
the dmz assigns the public Ip to an internal peice of equipment, I wondered if any consumer level products have the capability to do this?

capt coax
01-04-2011, 12:53
all of them do craig ... i have not seen a router yet that does not support dmz..

craigj2k12
01-04-2011, 13:01
i know most routers have dmz, but do any have more than 1 dmz host?

if the bt homehub can do it, i cant see why anything else cant!!

capt coax
01-04-2011, 13:05
How many outside, global, IPs do you have? One? If so, even if you could have more than one host in the DMZ it would be pointless.
Think about it, if a request on port 80 comes, and you pass it on to the DMZ hosts, which one grabs it?

attman
01-04-2011, 17:25
I bought TP-Link

Very cheap, Gigabit ports, Fantastic range on the Wi_Fi, small and stylish. I can't think of a bad thing to say with it.

DigitalShadow
02-04-2011, 11:13
WNDR3700, it is getting on a bit now, but could probably be picked up quite cheaply, great router will support 50mbit torrenting over wifi 24/7 if you have the storage space. (With no dropouts, reboots, slowdowns... it just works)

craigj2k12
02-04-2011, 12:47
the WNDR3700 looks like the virgin media 'hub' for the 10mb package

DigitalShadow
02-04-2011, 13:49
If it is they are offering a tremendous router with the 10mb package ;)

Tech specs and review here (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30925-start-your-buying-netgear-wndr3700-reviewed)

Throughput - (Mbps)
WAN - LAN = 408.9
LAN - WAN = 422.3
Simultaneous = 473.8
Maximum Simultaneous Connections = 4096

So router can handle 400/40 connection, it is a good router, shame virgin insist on superhub for above 50mbit

_wtf_
02-04-2011, 14:05
Perhaps the Superhub does more than just a router like monitor what you're doing perhaps?

craigj2k12
02-04-2011, 15:49
If it is they are offering a tremendous router with the 10mb package ;)

Tech specs and review here (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/30925-start-your-buying-netgear-wndr3700-reviewed)

Throughput - (Mbps)
WAN - LAN = 408.9
LAN - WAN = 422.3
Simultaneous = 473.8
Maximum Simultaneous Connections = 4096

So router can handle 400/40 connection, it is a good router, shame virgin insist on superhub for above 50mbit

it physically looks the same!! not the same though

the 'hub' is only docsis 1 and 2 compatible, so wouldnt work on 50mb on the docsis 3 platform

Peter_
02-04-2011, 17:32
If it is they are offering a tremendous router with the 10mb package ;)


So router can handle 400/40 connection, it is a good router, shame virgin insist on superhub for above 50mbit
The hub is not Docsis 3 so will not work on 30Mb and above hence the Superhub.

craigj2k12
02-04-2011, 18:27
The hub is not Docsis 3 so will not work on 30Mb and above hence the Superhub.

isnt that what i said?

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i got an Asus RT-N16 as recommended in an earlier post. Seems pretty good, wireless range more than double that of the superhub, plus speed tests are hitting 50meg over wireless. Im going to set a TBB ping monitor overnight and see if any improvement over the superhub, not that it needs testing. browsing seems a lot quicker straight away, i will post the results

Slyder
02-04-2011, 19:36
I know everyone is going to go against me on this but i have always been a massive fan of Linksys.

I will agree with this. Love my Linksys WRT54G2 alot better then the pooperhub VM wanted me to use.

weesteev
02-04-2011, 20:24
I will agree with this. Love my Linksys WRT54G2 alot better then the pooperhub VM wanted me to use.

The 54g Linksys vs the 300n Superhub... right.

DigitalShadow
02-04-2011, 22:01
The hub is not Docsis 3 so will not work on 30Mb and above hence the Superhub.

I know the netgear device isn't a VM hub/superhub

If you have a stand alone cable modem and want a router, the netgear one i listed above is very good, I max the wireless out at around 120mbit and my office is two floors above the router.

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The hub is not Docsis 3 so will not work on 30Mb and above hence the Superhub.

more importantly, what on earth are you quoting from my post, the two sentences are completely unrelated.

Peter_
02-04-2011, 22:05
more importantly, what on earth are you quoting from my post, the two sentences are completely unrelated.
Because you are taking about the router that the hub is based on but they never fitted the Docsis 3 modem into that version.

craigj2k12
02-04-2011, 22:07
its only 300n within 10 metres ;)

goes down 50meg every metre away after 10

DigitalShadow
03-04-2011, 00:30
Because you are taking about the router that the hub is based on but they never fitted the Docsis 3 modem into that version.

I've never used a VM supplied hub, did they base one of their supplied hubs on the wndr3700?

Peter_
03-04-2011, 00:36
I've never used a VM supplied hub, did they base one of their supplied hubs on the wndr3700?
Both hubs are based on Netgear routers.

craigj2k12
03-04-2011, 00:38
They look nice. There you go, I said it, a positive point about the superhub

Skie
03-04-2011, 01:45
The 54g Linksys vs the 300n Superhub... right.

And yet I could use my iPhones wifi from the bottom of our street on my old Linksys but with the superhub wifi barely works downstairs (0.2mb/sec). Same location for both devices. N disabled on the hub.

The wireless on the hub is utterly atrocious if you are coming from a device that had anything half decent powering it and external antennas.

Bullstein
10-04-2011, 15:57
I use a Netgear WNDR3700 Gigabit router, no problems at all with it

craigj2k12
10-04-2011, 16:07
i got an Asus RT-N16 iv installed ddwrt on it, its okay

wireless range isnt something to brag about, i got more range from the belkin n1 vision, but it seems up to the job!