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Barewolf
27-03-2011, 19:33
Hi All,


As some of you know, I've been very busy on the forum asking questions regarding building work, and I'm happy to say that a lot of your answers to my questions have been put into practice, and I've now almost finished the Garden.



(See Before And After Pics)


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_2852.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3022.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3031.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3032.jpg


Still a Bit Messy at the moment....101 Jobs still to do. ;)


I also have new Chickens, Four. As the last Chickens got "Foxed". I'm happy to report that the Chicken coop is now something Fort Knox would be proud of. :D


I still have to finish my Sun Porch, most of it is finished. I'm concentrating on the roof at the moment.



Polycarbonate Twinwall is the material I'm thinking of using, but I'm slightly perplexed as to how you fit it to rafters. :rolleyes:


Anyway......With any Luck, the Garden will be finished completely by June. :cool:

Zing
27-03-2011, 19:36
looking good mate big improvement :)

Taf
27-03-2011, 19:44
Anywhere that sells polycarb sheeting will also sell the fixings (screws with plastic washers). One tip is to seal the cut ends with aluminium tape (it last forever AFAIK) and will stop algae getting in there. Also make sure the UV coated face is facing outwards or it'll all go white and opaque in no time at all!

All I can say is "WOW! What a lot of paving!!"

Barewolf
27-03-2011, 19:48
Anywhere that sells polycarb sheeting will also sell the fixings (screws with plastic washers). One tip is to seal the cut ends with aluminium tape (it last forever AFAIK) and will stop algae getting in there. Also make sure the UV coated face is facing outwards or it'll all go white and opaque in no time at all!

All I can say is "WOW! What a lot of paving!!"

Well this is whats getting me confused, all the video's and tutorials i can see online, never show fully the fittings used, tape, flashing and so forth.

But the places ive seen that sell the polycarb sell the fixings seperate, hence the confusion. I suppose if i rang them then they would tell me which fixings i would need.

And Yes.....A lot of Patio, Looks massive now. :)

joglynne
27-03-2011, 19:52
Well done Bw it has been well worth the wait to see how much you have accomplished. Give yourself a pat on the back from me. I can't wait to see the finished job when you have softened all the hard landscaping by planting up the borders you have left. :tu:

Barewolf
27-03-2011, 19:56
Well done Bw it has been well worth the wait to see how much you have accomplished. Give yourself a pat on the back from me. I can't wait to see the finished job when you have softened all the hard landscaping by planting up the borders you have left. :tu:

Ive already started to plant my annuals and perrenials, got some fantastic flowers, shrubs, and bushes ready to go in. It will look really nice in Summer.

I will keep you up to date though obviously, and the hard work really has paid off, compared to March 6th which was when we had the grass in the 1st Picture, to Today, It's been a really hard struggle.

:D

martyh
27-03-2011, 20:00
Well this is whats getting me confused, all the video's and tutorials i can see online, never show fully the fittings used, tape, flashing and so forth.

But the places ive seen that sell the polycarb sell the fixings seperate, hence the confusion. I suppose if i rang them then they would tell me which fixings i would need.

And Yes.....A lot of Patio, Looks massive now. :)


why don't you fix it with timber glazing bead ?its far superior than drilling holes through somthing thats supposed to be water tight every hole is a potential leak no matter how good the fixings are ,is probably cheaper and looks better



nice job on the garden by the way

Barewolf
27-03-2011, 20:04
Oh yeah, I didnt mention that since I moved to the Midlands with my Partner, the only thing I could manage was Putting up a shelf, So you can Imagine the struggle I had with the Garden, lol. Lets hope nothing colapses.

All I can say is....Thank god for Laser Tools.

---------- Post added at 20:04 ---------- Previous post was at 20:02 ----------

why don't you fix it with timber glazing bead ?its far superior than drilling holes through somthing thats supposed to be water tight every hole is a potential leak no matter how good the fixings are ,is probably cheaper and looks better

I have no idea what they are, or how to use them. Im still trying to find tutorial videos about roofing that I can understand.



nice job on the garden by the way

Gracias :D

martyh
27-03-2011, 20:07
Oh yeah, I didnt mention that since I moved to the Midlands with my Partner, the only thing I could manage was Putting up a shelf, So you can Imagine the struggle I had with the Garden, lol. Lets hope nothing colapses.

All I can say is....Thank god for Laser Tools.

---------- Post added at 20:04 ---------- Previous post was at 20:02 ----------



I have no idea what they are, or how to use them. Im still trying to find tutorial videos about roofing that I can understand.





Gracias :D


i'll get you some pics

Barewolf
27-03-2011, 20:09
i'll get you some pics

Awesome Ty

martyh
27-03-2011, 20:28
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=21962&stc=1&d=1301253655

simply screw or nail the bottom piece in position then place the sheeting in position on a bed of clear silicone then the top piece again on a bed of clear silicone

the beading can purchased from wicks (which i know you like to use;))


http://www.wickes.co.uk/pine-glazing-bead/invt/120000/

hope this helps

Dai
27-03-2011, 20:45
why don't you fix it with timber glazing bead ?its far superior than drilling holes through somthing thats supposed to be water tight every hole is a potential leak no matter how good the fixings are ,is probably cheaper and looks better


Agreed. Temperature variations over a time can make the screw fittings work loose and let the water in. These glazing bars are a much neater and more efficient rig.

http://www.fascias.com/contents/en-uk/d421_Timber_Supported_Polycarbonate_Bars.html

http://www.nick-gray.co.uk/images/screwdown.jpg

Barewolf
27-03-2011, 20:57
Those glazing bars are what i was looking at last week, but im not sure how to fit these to the rafters, but, if you can imagine the ends of the roof left and right, im unsure of what or how to fix this in place.

I saw F - or Edge trim, Im thinking this is what you use.

Leaky roof here I come, No seriously, No water will get through when im finished, but I do agree Dainasty that these are neater rigs than the other glazing bars, and thats the line I was going to go down.

The alluminium tape, flashing, end caps, glazing bars......its all a bit confusing to an amature.

PeteLockwood
27-03-2011, 21:14
looks good that pal... i am currently doing my back garden but in turf not paving (young son who loves football) i am a TOTAL diy mong and this is where i am so far... the decking i did last year but didn't get round to doing the rest (the turf and raised beds)http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2720/img0008tez.jpg

i must say yours look as a hell of a lot better than mine tho, very good job indeed!

Halcyon
27-03-2011, 21:56
Nice work. :tu:

Sasha222
28-03-2011, 00:27
Hi All,


As some of you know, I've been very busy on the forum asking questions regarding building work, and I'm happy to say that a lot of your answers to my questions have been put into practice, and I've now almost finished the Garden.



(See Before And After Pics)


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_2852.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3022.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3031.jpg


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g125/Kassponia/IMG_3032.jpg


Still a Bit Messy at the moment....101 Jobs still to do. ;)


I also have new Chickens, Four. As the last Chickens got "Foxed". I'm happy to report that the Chicken coop is now something Fort Knox would be proud of. :D


I still have to finish my Sun Porch, most of it is finished. I'm concentrating on the roof at the moment.



Polycarbonate Twinwall is the material I'm thinking of using, but I'm slightly perplexed as to how you fit it to rafters. :rolleyes:


Anyway......With any Luck, the Garden will be finished completely by June. :cool:

WOW! Well done you. You really have done a fantastic job. You must be so so proud ;)

Barewolf
28-03-2011, 10:27
thanks all, i'm very proud of it, but it would have taken me longer if i hadnt have had answers from people in the forum.

still a long way to go yet though......Roll on June I say lol.

Dai
28-03-2011, 13:30
There's quite a helpful picture on this page:
http://www.fascias.com/contents/en-uk/d1117.html

The fixing rails are the push-down type. Basically you screw the bottom half of the fixing onto the supporting beams then cut your roofing sheets to fit, allowing an expansion gap. Once that's fitting right you press the top member into place to lock down the roofing. Then cut and fit the trim strip along the front to seal off the open cells in the polycarb.

Job done !!

Open a cold beer and enjoy.

Oops, while you're enjoying the beer you might want to consider flashing the join between roof and house.

martyh
28-03-2011, 13:46
There's quite a helpful picture on this page:
http://www.fascias.com/contents/en-uk/d1117.html

The fixing rails are the push-down type. Basically you screw the bottom half of the fixing onto the supporting beams then cut your roofing sheets to fit, allowing an expansion gap. Once that's fitting right you press the top member into place to lock down the roofing. Then cut and fit the trim strip along the front to seal off the open cells in the polycarb.

Job done !!

Open a cold beer and enjoy.

Oops, while you're enjoying the beer you might want to consider flashing the join between roof and house.

i would disagree ,
Although that sytem could be used on a timber frame it is more suited to pvc frames and is a lot more expensive than simply adding timber glazing bead to the rafters ,but it is an option especially if BW whats to splash out and get a mahogany ,teak or oak finish on the pvc

Dai
28-03-2011, 15:03
i would disagree ,
Although that sytem could be used on a timber frame it is more suited to pvc frames and is a lot more expensive than simply adding timber glazing bead to the rafters ,but it is an option especially if BW whats to splash out and get a mahogany ,teak or oak finish on the pvc

I agree. With hindsight I wasn't very clear as I didn't intend to recommend that specific hardware. There are other similar styles available and probably a lot cheaper than that specific manufacturer. I just intended it as an example of how the construction and fitting can be done.

Sorry for any confusion..