20mb upload increase? [Archive]

CollectiveLabour

10-09-2010, 21:00

morley04

10-09-2010, 21:12

Were abouts are you located?

Ignitionnet

10-09-2010, 21:14

I'm in the NG area.

Nottingham.

morley04

10-09-2010, 21:15

Oooops my bad, fingers crossed that its not a trial and leicester will be soon :)

Sephiroth

10-09-2010, 22:15

If your upstream page says 5120K symbols/second then your area has been upgraded to DOCSIS 2 (6.4 MHz channel width)

Chrysalis

11-09-2010, 02:30

Hi,

Normally lurk to read these boards, but haven't seen anything posted about this, so I thought I would register.

I have noticed in the last week my upload speeds are significantly higher, when I saw I was doing 220kbs upload! I'm on a 20mb package and my usual is around 80kpbs. I noticed the 50mb upload increase in another thread, and I just wondered if this was part of a test, or if it was here to stay? Not complaining.

Just done a speedtest and I'm currently getting:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/92.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

download speed is not great tonight, that usually around 18mb, but upload is way way higher. Anyone else seen this? I'm in the NG area.

nice upload speed but is now causing ack starvation on the ubr I wonder?

---------- Post added at 02:30 ---------- Previous post was at 02:29 ----------

If your upstream page says 5120K symbols/second then your area has been upgraded to DOCSIS 2 (6.4 MHz channel width)

mine doesnt reveal that info :(

CollectiveLabour

11-09-2010, 15:13

If your upstream page says 5120K symbols/second then your area has been upgraded to DOCSIS 2 (6.4 MHz channel width)

I have checked this and yes it is set to 5120k

I was going to ask if this meant it was staying for good, however I've checked my speed today and its gone back down to the normal level (approx 90kpbs up) and speedtest shows 0.7mbps up.

I assume this was just a test after all. Nice to have it for the week though

Ignitionnet

11-09-2010, 17:53

nice upload speed but is now causing ack starvation on the ubr I wonder?

No idea what you are talking about there. 1.8Mbps is ample to ack 20Mbps and if the guy can get that speed he's just fine to ack a full 20Mbps.

Sephiroth

11-09-2010, 20:20

I have checked this and yes it is set to 5120k

I was going to ask if this meant it was staying for good, however I've checked my speed today and its gone back down to the normal level (approx 90kpbs up) and speedtest shows 0.7mbps up.

I assume this was just a test after all. Nice to have it for the week though

If it's still 5120IK, then the slower speed would be due to upstream congestion/contention, I'd say.

Neo-Tech

11-09-2010, 21:13

Nope, I definitely think it's changed :( My modem was rebooted at 3am this morning, that's the same thing that happened last time when I got my upgraded, but now it's gone off, and the stupid ready light bug is back too.

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000
Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 3044

Used to be 1720000

Peter_

11-09-2010, 21:14

Nope, I definitely think it's changed :(

Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000
Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 3044

Used to be 1720000
You are on 10Mb with a 512kb upload which is standard for 10Mb.;)

Neo-Tech

11-09-2010, 21:17

Nope, I was part of the trial :P but I guess it's changed to default.

Peter_

11-09-2010, 21:19

Nope, I was part of the trial :P but I guess it's changed to default.
If you had the other config then it would have been around 1.5Mb upload but very likely to just be a test as the is nothing official as yet.

Neo-Tech

11-09-2010, 21:29

It was 1Mb upload on speedtest, but speedtest is always a bit off. And yeah, that's what I'm thinking, hopefully it comes to fruition soon.

IGR

12-09-2010, 00:30

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/93.png (http://www.speedtest.net) :) Hi I had this through June / July / August here in Lincoln.... back to normal now... ho hum..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/94.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Chrysalis

12-09-2010, 05:18

No idea what you are talking about there. 1.8Mbps is ample to ack 20Mbps and if the guy can get that speed he's just fine to ack a full 20Mbps.

I mean his download speed went down so is the ubr now upstream congested due to the increase in upload speeds.

General Maximus

12-09-2010, 08:57

I would have thought you are going to be on 2mbit up permanently now dude (not a trial). I have been on 5mbit up for the last couple of months now in Lincoln and all our traffic goes through Nottingham so it makes sense you get upgraded as well because you are part of the same "zone"

Ignitionnet

12-09-2010, 09:27

I mean his download speed went down so is the ubr now upstream congested due to the increase in upload speeds.

Given he's hitting 1.8Mbps upstream and has a ping to the server, even with potential Flash delay, of sub-40ms I don't think congestion was an issue.

---------- Post added at 09:27 ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 ----------

I would have thought you are going to be on 2mbit up permanently now dude (not a trial). I have been on 5mbit up for the last couple of months now in Lincoln and all our traffic goes through Nottingham so it makes sense you get upgraded as well because you are part of the same "zone"

The upgrades will be upstream port by upstream port due to the granularity of the network.

Chrysalis

12-09-2010, 12:55

Ignition so normally upload speeds drop before ack saturation?

Ignitionnet

12-09-2010, 13:39

I'm not sure what ack saturation is so can't comment.

vaishali1997

12-09-2010, 14:15

Hi,

Normally lurk to read these boards, but haven't seen anything posted about this, so I thought I would register.

I have noticed in the last week my upload speeds are significantly higher, when I saw I was doing 220kbs upload! I'm on a 20mb package and my usual is around 80kpbs. I noticed the 50mb upload increase in another thread, and I just wondered if this was part of a test, or if it was here to stay? Not complaining.

Just done a speedtest and I'm currently getting:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/92.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

download speed is not great tonight, that usually around 18mb, but upload is way way higher. Anyone else seen this? I'm in the NG area.

Oh not suprising.your download it slower..maybe that's why also my 10mb is only 3-7mb now :(((... that's probably because virgin've allowed a higher bandwidth for the upload so they had to reduce bandwidth of the download...:((((((...I'm sooo sad cuz I care nothing about the upload; only for the download...:(((( :P

Ignitionnet

12-09-2010, 14:36

Oh not suprising.your download it slower..maybe that's why also my 10mb is only 3-7mb now :(((... that's probably because virgin've allowed a higher bandwidth for the upload so they had to reduce bandwidth of the download...:((((((...I'm sooo sad cuz I care nothing about the upload; only for the download...:(((( :P

The two are nothing to do with each other.

Chrysalis

12-09-2010, 15:09

I'm not sure what ack saturation is so can't comment.

odd, is that you told me my original problem on my legacy port was ack saturation but maybe I should have said ack starvation?

Ignitionnet

12-09-2010, 15:23

odd, is that you told me my original problem on my legacy port was ack saturation but maybe I should have said ack starvation?

I probably said the port was saturated so acks were getting dropped.

Kymmy

12-09-2010, 15:43

Can I be saturated in port??? ;)

Is this the start of a rollout or are they still on testing/trials??

whizzard

12-09-2010, 15:48

Can I be saturated in port??? ;)

Is this the start of a rollout or are they still on testing/trials??

Id imagine they are implementing the capability across each Site ID and then testing it. Certainly the upstream speeds are in line with what they have forecast as forthcoming (2Mb upstream on 20mb and 5mb on 50mb). Of course with new tiers and changes will undoubtedly come new STM.

Kymmy

12-09-2010, 15:52

I wonder if my 768Kb up will change???

General Maximus

12-09-2010, 17:46

how come you are on 7mbit up? Are you on a top secret 70mbit tier we don't know anything about ;)

Peter_

12-09-2010, 17:47

how come you are on 7mbit up? Are you on a top secret 70mbit tier we don't know anything about ;)
She is on a business package I presume from previous posts.;)

Kymmy

12-09-2010, 17:49

Nope, on VM business cable (not ADSL)

10Mb down, 768Kb up, 5 IP's and no STM

Sierra662

13-09-2010, 16:18

Hi...

This is what i get from the Milton Keynes server. i'm located in Northamptonshire.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/57.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

pip08456

14-09-2010, 13:21

Hi...

This is what i get from the Milton Keynes server. i'm located in Northamptonshire.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/57.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

And the point of this is???????????

Sierra662

14-09-2010, 16:23

Just thought i'd share.

vaishali1997

14-09-2010, 17:51

Just thought i'd share.

Yeah..but so irrelevant boaster!!!

Hugh

14-09-2010, 17:56

Yeah..but so irrelevant boaster!!!
Amusing, from the person who started a speed thread (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33669412-broadband-speeds.html) five days ago....:D

vaishali1997

14-09-2010, 18:05

Amusing, from the person who started a speed thread (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33669412-broadband-speeds.html) five days ago....:D

Yeah to be posted there...but not here...it's sooo irrelevant!!! (no offence)

chinook_apache

17-09-2010, 15:59

the speeds i am getting now :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/59.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

SideWeaver

18-09-2010, 01:01

Well I am on 50MB and all of a sudden I get this...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/56.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 22992
Max Traffic Rate : 5140000 bps
Max Traffic Burst : 8160 bytes
Min Traffic Rate : 0 bps
Max Concatenated Burst : 8160 bytes
Scheduling Type : Best Effort

It really seems like they have put it up to 5mbit upload now for us atr least.

janipewter

18-09-2010, 01:12

I would kill for 2Mbit upload :(

SideWeaver

18-09-2010, 01:23

I would kill for 2Mbit upload :(

My latest speed test..
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/58.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
I am really hoping this is permanent. If it is then it is a sure fire message they are upgrading uploads. Testing out my connection uploading via a torrent and uploading @ ~450KB/s

General Maximus

18-09-2010, 08:32

pip08456

18-09-2010, 12:40

SideWeaver

18-09-2010, 20:15

I could've sworn the title of this thread related to the 20Mb service.

I could swear that you are being sarcastic... Sorry if it upset you :D

pip08456

18-09-2010, 23:30

I could swear that you are being sarcastic... Sorry if it upset you :D

Of coure I was being sarcastic. It didn't upset me one bit.

It was just a pointless, totally irrelevant post that had nothing whatsoever to do with the content of the 3 pages the thread has been going.

FYI there is a thread for the 50Mb speed increase where your post would've been apt.

SideWeaver

18-09-2010, 23:50

My point is just get to the point and no need for wit. I did spot the post shortly afterwards but didn't remove these posts. No need to get stroppy. However I will say no more incase it seems like I am hijacking this thread.

InsaneNutter

19-09-2010, 23:12

I also appear to have been upgraded to 2Mb/s upload in Huddersfield

Speed test:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/47.png

Upload in FlashFXP:

Download Failed (1)

Modem config:

Download Failed (1)

pip08456

19-09-2010, 23:29

According to the config file you have.

Drinks on you!!!

Sephiroth

20-09-2010, 00:27

I also appear to have been upgraded to 2Mb/s upload in Huddersfield

Speed test:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/47.png

Upload in FlashFXP:

http://www.imgftw.net/img/708714790.jpg

Modem config:

http://www.imgftw.net/img/946471750.jpg

Just out of interest, did you downgrade from 50 meg?

SideWeaver

20-09-2010, 00:59

Looking good, my config file shows my upload speed has been updated, however I guess that can easily be changed again if it is a trial. Didn't Huddersfield already have a trial though? If so maybe it is getting rolled out on the quiet.

InsaneNutter

20-09-2010, 08:49

Just out of interest, did you downgrade from 50 meg?

Nope, I have been on 20 meg since 2007.

Before that I just progressed to what NTL / Virgin upgraded the tiers to, 512k - 600k - 2meg - 4meg.

I signed up for the SamKnows / Virgin speed trials last year, for part of that trial Virgin sent us the new modem that 50mbit users get :D

---------- Post added at 08:49 ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 ----------

Didn't Huddersfield already have a trial though? If so maybe it is getting rolled out on the quiet.

50mbit customers in Huddersfield were on 5-10mbit upload around this time last year, if that ever becomes permanent I will have to upgrade just for the upload speed :D

Ignitionnet

20-09-2010, 10:41

It will at some point though no idea when. The trial cycle is quite prodigious.

Sephiroth

20-09-2010, 20:46

Nope, I have been on 20 meg since 2007.

Before that I just progressed to what NTL / Virgin upgraded the tiers to, 512k - 600k - 2meg - 4meg.

Reason I asked is that you are on DOCSIS 3. You've got a DOCSIS 3 modem.

iFrankie

20-09-2010, 22:04

So do us 10MB people get some kind of upgrade?

Ignitionnet

20-09-2010, 22:16

Yes.

InsaneNutter

20-09-2010, 23:16

Reason I asked is that you are on DOCSIS 3. You've got a DOCSIS 3 modem.

Yup ever since moving to DOCSIS 3 ive been able to download backups from my webserver in France at the full 20mbps with one connection, before i could only get around 250kb per connection to the server.

callanish

21-09-2010, 01:20

So a non docsis 3 modem ( The one originally provided by Virgin ) on Virgin's 20mb connection should be able to handle the future 2MB upload speeds without having to upgrade, right???

pip08456

21-09-2010, 03:31

Easily.

callanish

21-09-2010, 03:55

Easily.

good to know...thanks!!

SideWeaver

21-09-2010, 13:38

*Keeps looking at the VM site daily for further updates*

Man I really hope this comes in to place real soon.

Chrysalis

22-09-2010, 21:17

my area after its recent upgrade. is showing signs of congestion again albeit small, no idea if higher uploads been trialled here or not tho, but if not they need another user split before they do it.