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vaishali1997
09-09-2010, 21:46
Please post your broadband speed result here!!! Go on google and try!! Test your broadband speed particularaly if you have 10mb! I wanna see what you guys get!!!

I generally get a 5mb-7mb on virgin's 10mb package!!! :(((( I wish I could get the total 10

colin25
09-09-2010, 21:55
Date Download Speed Upload Speed
Today 20:52 50358 kbps (6.29MB/s) 618 kbps (77.3kB/s)
just taken.

But engineer coming sat to sort mine

vaishali1997
09-09-2010, 22:01
Date Download Speed Upload Speed
Today 20:52 50358 kbps (6.29MB/s) 618 kbps (77.3kB/s)
just taken.

But engineer coming sat to sort mine

OMG!!! YOu have 50mb and that's what you get, eh? Unfair!!!

jb66
09-09-2010, 22:44
How much bandwidth is wasted with folk speedtesting? I bet it's alot

---------- Post added at 21:44 ---------- Previous post was at 21:43 ----------

Date Download Speed Upload Speed
Today 20:52 50358 kbps (6.29MB/s) 618 kbps (77.3kB/s)
just taken.

But engineer coming sat to sort mine

You hope

colin25
10-09-2010, 06:03
lol Yes I hope. Pointless wringing my hands worrying :D

Maggy
10-09-2010, 08:22
Using the Speed test provided by P Marsden above the forums I get.

Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:19:20 GMT Test 1: 1024K took 863 ms = 1186.6 KB/sec, approx 9778 Kbps, 9.55 Mbps Test 2: 1024K took 847 ms = 1209 KB/sec, approx 9962 Kbps, 9.73 Mbps Test 3: 1024K took 850 ms = 1204.7 KB/sec, approx 9927 Kbps, 9.69 Mbps Test 4: 2048K took 1726 ms = 1186.6 KB/sec, approx 9778 Kbps, 9.55 Mbps Overall Average Speed = approx 9861 Kbps, 9.63 Mbps

That's a steady regular everyday result for me on 10 MB..I've no complaints at all.

roughbeast
10-09-2010, 12:16
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/106.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This result is typical for me. My average download is 50.68. My upload average of 1.85Mb is still slightly inflated by the 5Mb trial I was on last year. I cannot remember the last time I had a download speed test below 50Mb any time of day.

rizzla
10-09-2010, 12:34
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/105.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

download is what i usually get
upload is usually nearer 350
i used to be on 20mb but d/load was always 12mb and i got fed up trying to get em to fix it so dropped down to 10mb

Harlow CM20
10-09-2010, 13:30
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:27:38 GMT

Test 1: 1024K took 1845 ms = 555 KB/sec, approx 4573 Kbps, 4.47 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 4341 ms = 235.9 KB/sec, approx 1944 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 1646 ms = 622.1 KB/sec, approx 5126 Kbps, 5.01 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 5681 ms = 360.5 KB/sec, approx 2971 Kbps, 2.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3654 Kbps, 3.57 Mbps


To repeat this test from the source server click here.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/104.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

My connection would appear to be unstable compared to others.

Kymmy
10-09-2010, 15:48
Exactly what it says on the tin!!

Excellent ping, download and upload

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/102.png

iFrankie
10-09-2010, 17:20
Exactly what it says on the tin!!

Excellent ping, download and upload

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/102.png

Kymmy why is your upload 700kbps and mine is only 470kbps??

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/103.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Hugh
10-09-2010, 17:28
Date Download Speed Upload Speed
Today 20:52 50358 kbps (6.29MB/s) 618 kbps (77.3kB/s)
just taken.

But engineer coming sat to sort mine

OMG!!! YOu have 50mb and that's what you get, eh? Unfair!!!

Erm, 50,358Kbps is 50Mbits, so that is the speed he should be getting....

It's 50Mb speed, not 50MB.... (8 bits to the Byte);)

Hugh
10-09-2010, 17:38
My speedtest (but to be fair, I am at work....;))

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=20935&d=1284133080

Kymmy
10-09-2010, 17:42
Kymmy why is your upload 700kbps and mine is only 470kbps??

Probably the same reason as to why I have 5 sticky IP addresses and no STM

http://www.virginmediabusiness.co.uk/

colin25
10-09-2010, 17:47
lol..my issue is with upload..download is ok..but needs looked at too (can vary).

Ignitionnet
10-09-2010, 18:48
Here ya go.

vaishali1997
10-09-2010, 19:07
what's the most accurate broadband speed tester????

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/101.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/948196810.png

14.73 mbps on 10mb? Is this really accurate?????

It should be obvious by the way that I'm a cf geek xxx :))) :P

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Here ya go.

OMG ya luki fin..ya have 50mb dont ya??? I luuuuvvv bb x..soooo I rele wana beta speed den 10mb :(((((

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what's the most accurate broadband speed tester????

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/101.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

http://www.speedtest.net/result/948196810.png

14.73 mbps on 10mb? Is this really accurate?????

It should be obvious by the way that I'm a cf geek xxx :))) :P

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bu itz 2 expensive :(((((

OMG ya luki fin..ya have 50mb dont ya??? I luuuuvvv bb x..soooo I rele wana beta speed den 10mb :(((((

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bu hia pakz 2 pricey :((((

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http://www.speedtest.net/result/948207214.png

I AMMM ON 10MB

ladica
10-09-2010, 19:35
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/97.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

webcache.virginmedia.com port 8080
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/98.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm supposed to be on 10mb. :rolleyes:

Chrysalis
10-09-2010, 19:57
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/100.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Still unsure why I speedtest around 0.50 but get full 768kbit on actual uploading.

vaishali1997
11-09-2010, 14:15
lol sum sai 6 sum sai 14 hw wird init?? loolzzz

kingabs
11-09-2010, 14:17
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/99.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

vaishali1997
11-09-2010, 14:21
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/99.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

y u getin 50mb wen ur on 20mb erh??? u lukiiii fin

kingabs
11-09-2010, 14:22
y u getin 50mb wen ur on 20mb erh??? u lukiiii fin

Had 50Mbs installed this morning :D

vaishali1997
11-09-2010, 14:36
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/97.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

webcache.virginmedia.com port 8080
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/98.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm supposed to be on 10mb. :rolleyes:

haha lol :P what's happening? I used to be on sky then it was 3-4mbps what sky'd estimated...then it went up to 6mbps then down to 1mbps..(my broadband was a snail at even opening webpages then) then my internet stopped working was paying for 16mb just for unlimited internet :P then my internet stopped working and before that i was on virgin 2mb but i switched because sky was cheaper now i'm on virgin's 10mb (yayy! :P ) but only think I get 5-8mb...s'not that bad though but still wish could get faster (grr!!)

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does 20mb and 50mb make a chunk of difference on browsing only compared to 10mb???? :P just cuz i'm jealous

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Had 50Mbs installed this morning :D

u lukiii fin i rele wnted it (grrr!) lol :P

kingabs
11-09-2010, 14:52
haha lol :P what's happening? I used to be on sky then it was 3-4mbps what sky'd estimated...then it went up to 6mbps then down to 1mbps..(my broadband was a snail at even opening webpages then) then my internet stopped working was paying for 16mb just for unlimited internet :P then my internet stopped working and before that i was on virgin 2mb but i switched because sky was cheaper now i'm on virgin's 10mb (yayy! :P ) but only think I get 5-8mb...s'not that bad though but still wish could get faster (grr!!)

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does 20mb and 50mb make a chunk of difference on browsing only compared to 10mb???? :P just cuz i'm jealous

---------- Post added at 13:36 ---------- Previous post was at 13:27 ----------



u lukiii fin i rele wnted it (grrr!) lol :P

Move into a cable area and the power shall be yours.

vaishali1997
11-09-2010, 19:55
Move into a cable area and the power shall be yours.

What do u mean?

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I am in a cable area...

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I'm on fibre optic ...used to get 9.7ish but not anymore...I dunno why...

joglynne
11-09-2010, 20:07
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/96.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

colin25
11-09-2010, 20:41
and mine updated
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/95.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

vaishali1997
14-09-2010, 19:06
Oryt cool guys!!!

pip08456
15-09-2010, 14:21
]does 20mb and 50mb make a chunk of difference on browsing only compared to 10mb???? :P just cuz i'm jealous



For browsing only there is no difference at all.

roger skillin
15-09-2010, 16:26
My home one is my sig,
But we are on BT at work and it's shocking what we get, 0.9 download and 0.6 up

Ken W
15-09-2010, 19:03
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/76.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/77.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/78.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I am on 10MB VM cable and as you can see the results are poor!

lemarsh
25-09-2010, 11:43
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/24.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

happy with download, but is this the normal upload speed?

I normally upload once a week a 150meg file to youtube (legally I hasten to add!) and it takes ages. Is there any way of getting a quicker upload speed?

Kymmy
25-09-2010, 12:01
Upgrade to 20 or 50Mb with 20 you'll get .7Mb upload and with 50 you'll get 1.7Mb upload

roughbeast
25-09-2010, 12:12
Upgrade to 20 or 50Mb with 20 you'll get .7Mb upload and with 50 you'll get 1.7Mb upload

Alternatively wait until 10:1 download / upload is rolled out to your area.

roger skillin
25-09-2010, 15:15
Alternatively wait until 10:1 download / upload is rolled out to your area.

That's probably going to be a looooooong time

Kymmy
25-09-2010, 15:15
Probably next year

roger skillin
25-09-2010, 15:21
Probably next year

Hoping for the first half :)

Ignitionnet
25-09-2010, 15:26
Hoping for the first half :)

Depends where in the rollout you come. Will most likely be second half here - at least 3 months after BT.

progers
25-09-2010, 17:13
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/23.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Good for Saturday afternoon; in the week as 5pm approaches, speed drops to as low as 300K

On the 10 Meg (M) service

horseman
25-09-2010, 21:03
.....and just to illustrate the fallabillity of testing via unspecified router and speedtest site:

20Mbps XL tier via BRIG09 -
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/21.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

10Mbps L tier via BRIG09 - https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/22.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Actual d/s speed over 7 day period on L tier varies between 4.25 and 9.5 with average of 9.15Mbps (u/s virtually constant at 0.47Mbps) indicating probable downstream utilisation issue due to recent migratory action preceding u/s improvement preparations.

Sephiroth
26-09-2010, 00:06
Winnersh:

Sat, 25 Sep 2010 22:04:30 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 413 ms = 2479.4 KB/sec, approx 20430 Kbps, 19.95 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 419 ms = 2443.9 KB/sec, approx 20138 Kbps, 19.67 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 423 ms = 2420.8 KB/sec, approx 19947 Kbps, 19.48 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 863 ms = 2373.1 KB/sec, approx 19554 Kbps, 19.1 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 20017 Kbps, 19.55 Mbps

tidder23
26-09-2010, 04:18
speedtest.net
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/20.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

thinkbroadband.com
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/button/128546716074403328173.png (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results/id/128546716074403328173.html)

Cromulent
26-09-2010, 10:18
Please post your broadband speed result here!!! Go on google and try!! Test your broadband speed particularaly if you have 10mb! I wanna see what you guys get!!!

I generally get a 5mb-7mb on virgin's 10mb package!!! :(((( I wish I could get the total 10

I just had the 50Mbit service installed yesterday and got this just now:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/17.png

very happy compared to what I got with BT. I feel a bit overwhelmed actually. It is easy to end up downloading 500MBs or so and not even notice.

I need to clarify where I stand on the fair use policy in regards to times and when it is OK to really let it rip on the 50Mbit service.

horseman
26-09-2010, 11:11
20Mbps XL via BRIG16
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/19.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Download Failed (1) (http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results/id/1285491128788430497.html)

Download Failed (1) (http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk)



Download Failed (1) (http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk)

Ignitionnet
26-09-2010, 11:37
Nice TCP jitter - commensurate with the buffering and queuing the downstream congestion is causing.

Juo
26-09-2010, 13:39
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/18.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Pretty impressed with that :)

roughbeast
26-09-2010, 14:21
I just had the 50Mbit service installed yesterday and got this just now:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/17.png

very happy compared to what I got with BT. I feel a bit overwhelmed actually. It is easy to end up downloading 500MBs or so and not even notice.

I need to clarify where I stand on the fair use policy in regards to times and when it is OK to really let it rip on the 50Mbit service.

You can let rip as much as you like whenever you like on 50Mb.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/10.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

xx.Morph.xx
26-09-2010, 17:15
My download speed is still somewhat erratic even though my upstream has updated to 16QAM

This would be below par for a 10MB connection
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/12.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This would be better on a 10MB
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/13.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

this would be fair for a 20MB connection & about what I get with BT
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/14.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is 50% of the speed I should be getting
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/15.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This is the about the average BEST speed I seem to get
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/16.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

mjpartyboy
27-09-2010, 12:44
I haven't been on VM's website for a while, but was having a look at something today and noticed their broadband packages are now advertised as "up to". Since when did fibre optic technology suffer the same limitations as ADSL.

Kymmy
27-09-2010, 12:46
It does and it doesn't....

Cable doesn't suffer from cable distance like ADSL does.. but they both do suffer from over subscription in some areas.. There is only a finite amount of bandwidth available

mjpartyboy
27-09-2010, 16:12
I really wish the oversubscription issue would get sorted. It's frustrating paying for a service that quite often doesn't live up to expectation.

Kymmy
27-09-2010, 16:21
As I recently said in another thread if you want a network that can cope with 100% of the users 100% of the time then get a leased line... No ISP will ever offer a cheap service with that guarantee

Cromulent
27-09-2010, 16:38
You can let rip as much as you like whenever you like on 50Mb.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/10.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

That may technically be true, but I'm a suspicious sort of chap :).

Chrysalis
28-09-2010, 08:52
As I recently said in another thread if you want a network that can cope with 100% of the users 100% of the time then get a leased line... No ISP will ever offer a cheap service with that guarantee

the worst areas are a lot worse then that believe me. Please respect how bad it is for some customers.

Would you say full speed 2% of the time is acceptable? and maybe sub 5% speeds 30% of time?

VM has huge variances. Just 6 months ago my service was simply not fit for purpose, it was unable to stream iplayer, youtube etc. I had timeouts galore, download speeds less than dialup (not exaggerating), heavy packet loss/jitter. However now it is brilliant, jitter is low enough to not be noticeable, packet loss gone, speeds full just about all the time. The extreme between the 2 situations is unreal and surely isnt right that one customer can have such a great service and another has a service that almost doesnt exist.

In effect the worst areas are ringfenced which protects the lucky customers, but I feel VM need to fix this, sacrifice budgets in low utilisation areas and plough it into high utilisation areas so we have a performance level that is consistent across the entire network across the country.

Ignitionnet
28-09-2010, 14:35
The scenario you describe above is the same on cable companies worldwide and won't change. Areas which aren't congested see less money anyway as they don't need it. Areas which are heavily utilised, why should the cable company throw endless amounts of bandwidth at them if it's being constantly consumed?

I have a plan for 300 modems on each port, if area A runs fine on 400 modems per port and area B is dying on 200 modems per port why should I use the money I'm making from A to subsidise the heavier usage on B?

They're a business not a left-wing government. Using profit from some to provide more resources to others, isn't how a business is run. If people don't like the service they can both reduce load on the networks and improve their own service by changing suppliers.

Where high uptake has pushed areas out of planning guidelines and there are too many modems present I would totally agree with upgrades, where it's heavy utilisation I would totally disagree with upgrades and would advocate slapping those whose usage is causing the issues, most certainly not giving them more bandwidth to consume as it simply doesn't work and is unfair charging everyone the same while spending more CapEx per home on some areas which are plagued by people who need to download / upload the entire Internet.

The real world is an unfortunate thing, and it's one that isn't fair. The only actually fair scenario would be metered usage at a rate sufficient to pay for zero visible contention. That'd upset some quite handsomely but is the only fair solution.

mjpartyboy
28-09-2010, 15:35
Why should I pay full price for the time I only get 10% performance through no fault of my own.

Ignitionnet
28-09-2010, 15:40
Why should I pay full price for the time I only get 10% performance through no fault of my own.

There's nothing in your contract guaranteeing anything.

If you aren't happy with the service you are receiving for the price you are paying the simple solution is to leave.

Kymmy
28-09-2010, 15:42
Why should I pay full price for the time I only get 10% performance through no fault of my own.

Do you actually believe that ADSL will be any better.. You simply live in an area where demand outstrips the hardware..

You could leave and try ADSL but I doubt it would be any better unless you moved

pip08456
28-09-2010, 17:41
Do you actually believe that ADSL will be any better.. You simply live in an area where demand outstrips the hardware..

You could leave and try ADSL but I doubt it would be any better unless you moved

Actually he does believe his ADSL service was better.

Ignitionnet
28-09-2010, 18:38
Do you actually believe that ADSL will be any better.. You simply live in an area where demand outstrips the hardware..

You could leave and try ADSL but I doubt it would be any better unless you moved

Totally different things and cable performance is no kind of guide to ADSL performance. Wouldn't surprise at all if the people here still see slow peak speeds on cable and unreliable 50Mbps service while my DSL has had a superb uptime and consistent performance.

Kymmy
28-09-2010, 18:43
There though should be some correlation between cable and ADSL users in an area.. This is especialy true in over congested area where it tends to be inner city or student areas.. In those instances ADSL would be over subscribed as much as cable

I suppose the only exception to the rule may be areas with a high cloned modem usage...

Ignitionnet
28-09-2010, 19:46
There though should be some correlation between cable and ADSL users in an area.. This is especialy true in over congested area where it tends to be inner city or student areas.. In those instances ADSL would be over subscribed as much as cable

I suppose the only exception to the rule may be areas with a high cloned modem usage...

In part it's about the areas, there's no correlation between them. VM's areas can be as small as 250 homes while the area for ADSL is the entire exchange, with usage patterns shared across that exchange so there's room for the P2P addicted 10 people to a connection students to be moderated by lighter users.

Plus there are several sets of backhaul on ADSL, I've a choice of Sky, Telefonica, C+W, TalkTalk, BT Wholesale at very least.

Lastly there's the difference in pipe size between them. A large pipe shared between many works better than a proportionately smaller pipe shared between fewer people - sharing 100Mbit between 500 10Mbit customers works much better than sharing 40Mbit between 200 of them even though the bandwidth per customer is the same.

watzizname
28-09-2010, 23:07
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/5.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/6.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:55:18 GMT

Test 1: 1024K took 1925 ms = 531.9 KB/sec, approx 4383 Kbps, 4.28 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 2100 ms = 487.6 KB/sec, approx 4018 Kbps, 3.92 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 1503 ms = 681.3 KB/sec, approx 5614 Kbps, 5.48 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 4048 ms = 505.9 KB/sec, approx 4169 Kbps, 4.07 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4546 Kbps, 4.44 Mbps

Chrysalis
30-09-2010, 03:26
The scenario you describe above is the same on cable companies worldwide and won't change. Areas which aren't congested see less money anyway as they don't need it. Areas which are heavily utilised, why should the cable company throw endless amounts of bandwidth at them if it's being constantly consumed?

I have a plan for 300 modems on each port, if area A runs fine on 400 modems per port and area B is dying on 200 modems per port why should I use the money I'm making from A to subsidise the heavier usage on B?

They're a business not a left-wing government. Using profit from some to provide more resources to others, isn't how a business is run. If people don't like the service they can both reduce load on the networks and improve their own service by changing suppliers.

Where high uptake has pushed areas out of planning guidelines and there are too many modems present I would totally agree with upgrades, where it's heavy utilisation I would totally disagree with upgrades and would advocate slapping those whose usage is causing the issues, most certainly not giving them more bandwidth to consume as it simply doesn't work and is unfair charging everyone the same while spending more CapEx per home on some areas which are plagued by people who need to download / upload the entire Internet.

The real world is an unfortunate thing, and it's one that isn't fair. The only actually fair scenario would be metered usage at a rate sufficient to pay for zero visible contention. That'd upset some quite handsomely but is the only fair solution.

doesnt matter either way, VM still throw cash at customers in such areas who end up paying subsidised prices anyway. I am not talking about moderate congestion, I am talking about congestion that is so severe the connection is not useable for what one would expect from broadband.

A serious question ignition, do you honestly think its a good way to do business by selling broadband that cannot even use iplayer and cannot download faster than dialup? iplayer only requires around 0.7mbit of bandwidth. Sometimes you seem to think everything is justifiable to maintain profit.

In other lines of business if you cannot provide something for the price you sell it at you simply change the price. Or sell something else, you dont 'pretend' to sell something which is what VM are doing in some areas.

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Do you actually believe that ADSL will be any better.. You simply live in an area where demand outstrips the hardware..

You could leave and try ADSL but I doubt it would be any better unless you moved

to be fair my adsl is on a very bad line and is most defenitly better than my VM service was before it got fixed, this on a line only capable of around 3-4mbit at the moment with many bursts of noise.

a isdn connection is probably better than some VM areas, seriously.

Of course now my VM connection blows it out of the water except on upload.

taylorig
30-09-2010, 16:02
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/4.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

10Mb service, going up to 50Mb next Thurday :D

roughbeast
30-09-2010, 16:24
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/4.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

10Mb service, going up to 50Mb next Thurday :D


Congratulations! This will interest you then:

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Neal
30-09-2010, 20:50
20mb service.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/3.png http://www.pingtest.net/result/25137499.png

taylorig
30-09-2010, 21:14
Congratulations! This will interest you then:

http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=205406&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1477506&highlight=

Very much so. Thank you for the link ;)

mjpartyboy
01-10-2010, 12:58
http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=205406&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1477506&highlight=

I knew they were trialling the higher upload for 50 MB customers, but I didn't realise all tiers would be getting an upgrade. Every little helps.

When Major Nelson was in Japan for the Tokyo Game Show he did a speed test where he was staying and the download was around 18 MB and the upload was around 20 MB. Shows how far behind we are in the UK.

blade85
04-10-2010, 11:53
Taken just now using a wireless network. 10Meg connection

http://www.pingtest.net/result/25366753.png
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/76.png

RedDragon
04-10-2010, 15:01
I knew they were trialling the higher upload for 50 MB customers, but I didn't realise all tiers would be getting an upgrade. Every little helps.

When Major Nelson was in Japan for the Tokyo Game Show he did a speed test where he was staying and the download was around 18 MB and the upload was around 20 MB. Shows how far behind we are in the UK.

A lot of people say how far ahead Japan is with broadband and fibre to the home, if you look at the attatched picture you can see how they get fibre to the home without digging up the streets, I don't think this would get the thumbs from UK councils or residents.(These poles also carry power and copper telco services.)

Ignitionnet
04-10-2010, 17:18
That looks like it came from http://www.dannychoo.com/post/en/1653/Japan+Optic+Fiber+Internet.html

RedDragon
04-10-2010, 19:53
Yep, thanks for that link, someone had passed me the photo but it's interesting to see the full site, but my comment still stands, retrofitting existing underground copper builds with fibre will prove far too expensive.

adzii_nufc
04-10-2010, 22:41
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/71.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Mine is second to none at most times of the day. Best broadband available!

Since 20mb Virgin have been brilliant for me.

Chrysalis
05-10-2010, 12:12
A lot of people say how far ahead Japan is with broadband and fibre to the home, if you look at the attatched picture you can see how they get fibre to the home without digging up the streets, I don't think this would get the thumbs from UK councils or residents.(These poles also carry power and copper telco services.)

in urban and some suburban areas it probably wouldnt be noticed if using exisiting poles, and to me seems more practical to do overhead fibre rollout however clearly the telcos here dont see it as viable or they have been blocked from doing it.

Sephiroth
05-10-2010, 12:34
Thing is that in new build areas, poles are out. But then fibre can be laid to the home anyway.

But elsewhere, there are poles galore on which to roll out fibre.

Ignitionnet
05-10-2010, 15:31
in urban and some suburban areas it probably wouldnt be noticed if using exisiting poles, and to me seems more practical to do overhead fibre rollout however clearly the telcos here dont see it as viable or they have been blocked from doing it.

They aren't allowed to do it right now, regulations may change.

diydad
05-10-2010, 23:26
A speed test

just tried to post and got dc'd

I'm a 50mb customer getting a less than 20mb service

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/69.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Are you listening Mr Branson... no i didn't think you were!

Just so p!ssed off:mad:

Virgin CS please feel free to contact me about this

Corpy
06-10-2010, 00:35
This is my speed test ! just had the XXL put in today :-) getting between 52-59mb

http://www.speedtest.net]http://www.speedtest.net/result/979462563.png

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:20 ----------

Here is mine ! i get between 52-59mb :-) but never got into the 60's :-(

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/979462563.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

---------- Post added at 23:35 ---------- Previous post was at 23:22 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/64.png (http://www.speedtest.net) :-)

Sephiroth
06-10-2010, 00:35
Had 50 meg put in today. I'm still investigating the LAN side.

Tue, 5 Oct 2010 22:33:09 UTC

Test 1: 2048K took 560 ms = 3657.1 KB/sec, approx 29257 Kbps, 28.57 Mbps
Test 2: 2048K took 537 ms = 3813.8 KB/sec, approx 30510 Kbps, 29.79 Mbps
Test 3: 2048K took 472 ms = 4339 KB/sec, approx 34712 Kbps, 33.9 Mbps
Test 4: 4096K took 960 ms = 4266.7 KB/sec, approx 34134 Kbps, 33.33 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 32153 Kbps, 31.4 Mbps

VMboy
06-10-2010, 00:40
Would seem to me that some 50meg customers do get good speeds were others don't seem to, would this be down to heavy usage areas? or perhaps badly monitored network?

Chrysalis
06-10-2010, 04:07
Would seem to me that some 50meg customers do get good speeds were others don't seem to, would this be down to heavy usage areas? or perhaps badly monitored network?

probably both. Or rather its monitored but the threshold to class it as congested is set too high.

Ignitionnet
06-10-2010, 12:38
Would seem to me that some 50meg customers do get good speeds were others don't seem to, would this be down to heavy usage areas? or perhaps badly monitored network?

50M users connect to 3 or 4 channels and can take unused bandwidth from any/all of those channels.

If you're unhappy with the performance of your 10Mbit service an option is to prise open the wallet and upgrade to 20Mbit which will likely push you onto the same platform as the 50Mbit customers.

VMboy
06-10-2010, 12:52
50M users connect to 3 or 4 channels and can take unused bandwidth from any/all of those channels.

If you're unhappy with the performance of your 10Mbit service an option is to prise open the wallet and upgrade to 20Mbit which will likely push you onto the same platform as the 50Mbit customers.

Who mentioned the 10meg service on this thread? certainly not me.

You say it will likely, so I pay more for a likely situation, no thanks.

Ignitionnet
06-10-2010, 13:28
Who mentioned the 10meg service on this thread? certainly not me.

You say it will likely, so I pay more for a likely situation, no thanks.

Threads don't exist in isolation, memories aren't wiped when going between threads.

Fair enough, was just a suggestion. Rare to see a 20Mbit customer not on that network now.

Corpy
06-10-2010, 14:19
http://www.speedtest.net]http://www.speedtest.net/result/979462563.png

---------- Post added at 23:22 ---------- Previous post was at 23:20 ----------

Here is mine ! i get between 52-59mb :-) but never got into the 60's :-(

[IMG]http://www.speedtest.net/result/979462563.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

---------- Post added at 23:35 ---------- Previous post was at 23:22 ----------

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/64.png (http://www.speedtest.net) :-)


I dont know why people get poor service mine never drops below 50mb everytime i test it Daily its over 50mb

pip08456
06-10-2010, 14:32
I dont know why people get poor service mine never drops below 50mb everytime i test it Daily its over 50mb

Mine's always rock solid (give or take a Mb/s or two) but like everything else there always will be problems somewhere.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/62.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

From 15/9/10

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/63.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Seph. How you doing with yours???

Sephiroth
06-10-2010, 23:29
Mine's always rock solid (give or take a Mb/s or two) but like everything else there always will be problems somewhere.
......
Seph. How you doing with yours???

Hi Pip

Mine's schitt.

DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 435000000 443000000 451000000 0
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 75 76 77 0
Modulation 64QAM 64QAM 64QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 0.06 -0.72 -0.80 -11.58
RxMER
(dB) 36.56 36.79 37.04 49.40
Correctable
Codewords 32361 29815 28718 0
Uncorrectable
Codewords 1225 4302 8395 0

Phil53
07-10-2010, 00:43
http://www.speedtest.net/result/980789269.png

Cant say I ever get less than 50mb most of the time.

Nearly a year on this 50mb and still no complaints whatsoever!
Except I cant post the speedtest.net photo so go see the link
cheers all

pip08456
07-10-2010, 01:03
Hi Pip

Mine's schitt.

DS-1 DS-2 DS-3 DS-4
Frequency 435000000 443000000 451000000 0
Lock Status
(QAM Lock/FEC Sync/MPEG Lock) Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y Y/Y/Y
Channel Id 75 76 77 0
Modulation 64QAM 64QAM 64QAM 256QAM
Symbol Rate
(Msym/sec) 6.952 6.952 6.952 6.952
Interleave Depth I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17 I=12
J=17
Power Level
(dBmV) 0.06 -0.72 -0.80 -11.58
RxMER
(dB) 36.56 36.79 37.04 49.40
Correctable
Codewords 32361 29815 28718 0
Uncorrectable
Codewords 1225 4302 8395 0

Definately an issue there don't you think? If only 3 D/streams used the 4th usually shows as N/A and certainly not at a different modulation.

Sephiroth
07-10-2010, 01:15
I think the 12.01 firmware's glitched. There's the MIMO messages in the event log too. A mismatch between Config file and software. I'm on a Cisco CMTS.

pip08456
07-10-2010, 01:26
I've been on the 12.01 firmware since it was trialled without any problem, don't knoiw what CMTS I'm on though.

pabscars
07-10-2010, 02:34
I think the 12.01 firmware's glitched. There's the MIMO messages in the event log too. A mismatch between Config file and software. I'm on a Cisco CMTS.

I too am on the 12.01 firmware and notice the same glitch where you see a partial view of a 4th downstream

pip08456
07-10-2010, 09:42
I too am on the 12.01 firmware and notice the same glitch where you see a partial view of a 4th downstream

That would explain why I have never suffered for that glitch as my area uses all 4 streams.

Also interesting to note all mine are 256QAM.

Sephiroth
07-10-2010, 09:53
I've been on the 12.01 firmware since it was trialled without any problem, don't knoiw what CMTS I'm on though.

Just hit the Connection tab on the ribbon above. That'll tell you.

roger skillin
07-10-2010, 10:27
Here's my speed

pip08456
07-10-2010, 10:47
Just hit the Connection tab on the ribbon above. That'll tell you.

Forgot about that Seph (I haven't woken up yet!)

You appear to be on a Virgin Media Connection
IP address 213.105.128.104
Host cpc4-bary4-2-0-custXXX.X-X.cable.virginmedia.com

Also if you look at the speed test results using the same as you I get this-

Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:35:14 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 375 ms = 2730.7 KB/sec, approx 22501 Kbps, 21.97 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 187 ms = 5475.9 KB/sec, approx 45121 Kbps, 44.06 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 157 ms = 6522.3 KB/sec, approx 53744 Kbps, 52.48 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 343 ms = 5970.8 KB/sec, approx 49199 Kbps, 48.05 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 42641 Kbps, 41.64 Mbps


These results appear to be quite fast - this page could possibly be in your browser cache.


Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:36:25 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 360 ms = 2844.4 KB/sec, approx 23438 Kbps, 22.89 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 203 ms = 5044.3 KB/sec, approx 41565 Kbps, 40.59 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 172 ms = 5953.5 KB/sec, approx 49057 Kbps, 47.91 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 328 ms = 6243.9 KB/sec, approx 51450 Kbps, 50.24 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 41378 Kbps, 40.41 Mbps


These results appear to be quite fast - this page could possibly be in your browser cache.


Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:37:13 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 344 ms = 2976.7 KB/sec, approx 24528 Kbps, 23.95 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 187 ms = 5475.9 KB/sec, approx 45121 Kbps, 44.06 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 188 ms = 5446.8 KB/sec, approx 44882 Kbps, 43.83 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 328 ms = 6243.9 KB/sec, approx 51450 Kbps, 50.24 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 41495 Kbps, 40.52 Mbps


These results appear to be quite fast - this page could possibly be in your browser cache.

And speedtest returns this-

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/59.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


What result do you get downloading the 3 game files as reccommended by VM?

Just for the sake of clarity of course. :D

I also note you posted on the VM forum yesterday, you don't expect a reply anytime soon surely??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Just in case you've lost it here's the 50Mb support number (you might even get Masque!!) 0800 052 0431.

taylorig
07-10-2010, 12:09
Just had my 50Mb installed this morning and all went rather well...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/10/58.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

My only concern with it all was the engineer never checked my connection, power levels or anything via my PC :confused:

Good job i know what i am doing :)

pip08456
07-10-2010, 12:41
He would've done it via his PDA but I agree it would've been good for him to also do it via your PC. They certainly do in my area. When my 50Mb was installed the engineer asked first and told me they had been instructed by their manager to run 3 consecutive tests from speedtest.net to show the customer everything is OK.

Good practice IMO.

taylorig
07-10-2010, 12:56
He would've done it via his PDA but I agree it would've been good for him to also do it via your PC. They certainly do in my area. When my 50Mb was installed the engineer asked first and told me they had been instructed by their manager to run 3 consecutive tests from speedtest.net to show the customer everything is OK.

Good practice IMO.

Yep very good practice. And seeing has i used to be an engineer myself some years back and am now a network/computer engineer i would never leave a site without testing my work. The last thing i would want is the customer ringing up afterwards and complaining.

But i'm not one for ringing them up to try and drop the engineer in it. He was one of the nicest and polite guy's i have had from VM. Hat's off to VM for getting someone that does them justice ;)

pip08456
07-10-2010, 13:16
No need to drop him in it, your connection looks great judging by your speedtest results.

Chrysalis
07-10-2010, 14:01
He would've done it via his PDA but I agree it would've been good for him to also do it via your PC. They certainly do in my area. When my 50Mb was installed the engineer asked first and told me they had been instructed by their manager to run 3 consecutive tests from speedtest.net to show the customer everything is OK.

Good practice IMO.

my engineer left as I was downloading the install program (slowly), he said his job was done when the registration page loaded.

pip08456
07-10-2010, 14:25
Obviously it wasn't Chrys.

It is unfortunate that VM have engineers like that but it does happen in all different trades.

BTW what install programme? Once registered there is no download needed.

Chrysalis
07-10-2010, 17:21
Obviously it wasn't Chrys.

It is unfortunate that VM have engineers like that but it does happen in all different trades.

BTW what install programme? Once registered there is no download needed.

trying to remember exactly what. I think he typed in the webpage on my laptop address bar in the browser and that downloaded an installer to install some VM software which of course I uninstalled after he left, it was part of the registration process when I signed up.

Ignitionnet
07-10-2010, 17:33
bary-cmts-04 is a Motorola BSR, even without knowing your number of downstreams I can tell it's a BSR, I'm clever like that. (Actually it's really simple how I know, I just traced your IP address as it was in a post above and looked at the DNS of the penultimate hop).

pip08456
07-10-2010, 20:25
You're showing off again Igni :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

pip08456
13-10-2010, 17:21
bary-cmts-04 is a Motorola BSR, even without knowing your number of downstreams I can tell it's a BSR, I'm clever like that. (Actually it's really simple how I know, I just traced your IP address as it was in a post above and looked at the DNS of the penultimate hop).

HAH HAH! Gotcha!!

Just been told I'm actually on a Cisco 7200!

Sephiroth
13-10-2010, 21:27
bary-cmts-04 is a Motorola BSR, even without knowing your number of downstreams I can tell it's a BSR, I'm clever like that. (Actually it's really simple how I know, I just traced your IP address as it was in a post above and looked at the DNS of the penultimate hop).

As I understood things, the BSR uses the bary-CMTS-nn name convention. The Cisco UBRs don't.

Anyway PIP, you're on 50 meg and the legacy UBR is not used for DOCSIS 3 AFAIK. Who told you that you were on a C7200? Martin from India?:p:

pip08456
13-10-2010, 21:48
No Chris from Liverpool.