View Full Version : 50mb upload increase finally
Phil-ntl
31-08-2010, 09:01
Looks like the increase to 5mb upload has finally started to happen, at least here in Nottingham anyway (NG11) :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/08/1.png
Woke up to no internet this morning, rebooted modem and got this :
Primary Upstream Service Flow
SFID : 27356
Max Traffic Rate : 5140000 bps
Phil :D
Nice one that is good news.
merlintt
31-08-2010, 09:20
Any idea when this will hit me Masque? postcode sg18
Any idea when this will hit me Masque? postcode sg18
Nothing is listed so no dates can be given,sorry.:)
Even though this hasn't been rolled out everywhere it almost seems too good to be true (it's been overdue!). It's not one of Virgin's trials though is it?
Mine gone back to 1.75Mb
Probably Nottingham will follow the same.. Sounds like they're testing different areas before deciding on how to proceed
It could just be a test and they could rescind it at any time as with Big Gaz.
Phil-ntl
31-08-2010, 09:55
Oh well, at least it will make my work a lot easier while it lasts lol
merlintt
31-08-2010, 10:09
Nothing is listed so no dates can be given,sorry.:)
ah well.I`ll keep speedtesting;)
Robbie G
31-08-2010, 11:27
Mine gone back to 1.75Mb
Haha 50Mb down 1.75Mb up, that's just lol :D. Still I can't blame them and it's good that they're looking at increasing the upload rate.
Looks like the increase to 5mb upload has finally started to happen, at least here in Nottingham anyway (NG11) :D
ahh, you got me excited then! I almost couldn't breath for a minute (yes, that's how desperate I am for more upload! lol :D
broadbandking
31-08-2010, 12:49
Doesn't really bother me, for what I use my internet for 5Mb would be nice but doubt I will use it much.
pip08456
31-08-2010, 13:41
When it happens it will, I won't be so excited then but will be thankfull of it.
Not that I do anything illegal!!!!:angel::angel::angel:
Wackahack
31-08-2010, 16:42
will they be increasing 10MB upload speed?
will they be increasing 10MB upload speed?
Yes
Wackahack
31-08-2010, 16:55
Yes
Thanks for the reply. Thats great news. Do you know how much to?
DocDutch
31-08-2010, 16:58
Wack, from what I can read it looks like VM are going to do a 1-10 contention.... so say:
50meg down = 5 meg up
20meg down = 2 meg up
10meg down = 1 meg up
or am I just wishful thinking here Ben or Masque?
Wackahack
31-08-2010, 17:07
Thanks for that info :) Oh I hope its true, uploading to youtube is a nightmare ATM. That would cut my upping time in half!
Do we have any indecation of when this is going to be put in place as standerd?
Wack, from what I can read it looks like VM are going to do a 1-10 contention.... so say:
50meg down = 5 meg up
20meg down = 2 meg up
10meg down = 1 meg up
or am I just wishful thinking here Ben or Masque?
Do you honestly think that we could answer that at the moment, the are rumours but they are not something I could post with it being business sensitive information.;)
Zaim7890
31-08-2010, 22:01
Cool. when will everyone get these speeds?
so let me get this right, 5mb upload would equate to say 550kb/sec upload speed or nearer the 600kb mark?
Darn, I read the thread title and got all excited, but then realised I'm still on 1.75
Ah well, heh
But still, 5mb isn't much really, at least, it won't be when BT's fibre is more readily available.
Darn, I read the thread title and got all excited, but then realised I'm still on 1.75
Ah well, heh
But still, 5mb isn't much really, at least, it won't be when BT's fibre is more readily available.
At which time Virgin Media will be offering 100Mb.;)
bit of news from the sofa which i have the ok to post here Following the successful Huddersfield and Coventry trials, we've been running some further, successful, customer trials of 10:1 upload speeds, including M and L customers
We're due to be making an announcement on changes to our upload speeds at the end of this month - so please watch this space!
Cheers,posted on Tue, 31/08/2010 - 09:10 (http://www.virginmediasofa.com/users/james-skelton)
(http://www.virginmediasofa.com/users/james-skelton)
We will be rolling this out across the country in phases starting next month for about 6 months and communications are all in planning now - I'm afraid I can't send a one-size fits all notification but you will be receiving a service email once your upload speed has been increased!
bit of news from the sofa which i have the ok to post here
I presume they mean September.:D
Zaim7890
31-08-2010, 22:35
I presume they mean September.:D
I hope they mean August :D
I hope they mean August :D
They could mean October.:D
I presume they mean September.:D
just updated post missed a bit
just updated post missed a bit
A six month rollout sounds about right for an increase in upload speeds.
Zaim7890
31-08-2010, 22:48
A six month rollout sounds about right for an increase in upload speeds.
ah, long waiting time for me then. when it comes to upgrades i'm always last. :(
ah, long waiting time for me then. when it comes to upgrades i'm always last. :(
Hey that is to early you need to wait until the Upload upgrade thread starts before posting that.;)
broadbandking
31-08-2010, 23:43
MMM a 5Mb upload, really looking forward to seen what my gaming will be like if its better.
Chrysalis
01-09-2010, 00:11
A six month rollout sounds about right for an increase in upload speeds.
seems low to me.
ignition detailed quite bit of work involved in upgrading capacity 8 fold for these upgrades, a 6 month national rollout would seem to indicate a rushed rollout, eg. just changing configs.
pip08456
01-09-2010, 00:39
Just changing configs could be done on a national basis tomorrow.
Just changing configs could be done on a national basis tomorrow.
OK they do that and suddenly the network collapses because it is not ready for it, would you then complain about it.?:erm:
It needs to be done in stages so as not to overload and kill the network, yes they could flick a switch but that would be madness.:erm:
I thought they might be leaving the 5mbit for 50mbit until the 100mbit lauch, due to the fact that there was no mention of the upgrade for quite a while. Is 5mbit upload rate for 50mbit still possably on the card before the official rollout of the 100mbit connection?
I thought they might be leaving the 5mbit for 50mbit until the 100mbit lauch, due to the fact that there was no mention of the upgrade for quite a while. Is 5mbit upload rate for 50mbit still possably on the card before the official rollout of the 100mbit connection?
It is all speculation until we have an official announcement.;)
kwikbreaks
01-09-2010, 07:59
I'd be pleased if I could consistently get somewhere near the 768kbps up I'm supposed to with 20Mbps. It's been rather poor lately for me.
I'd be pleased if I could consistently get somewhere near the 768kbps up I'm supposed to with 20Mbps. It's been rather poor lately for me.
I usually manage around 720 on my 20Mb connection fairly consistantly.
kwikbreaks
01-09-2010, 08:51
I'm happy for you then but just recently I don't. Hopefully the upgrades will sort it out when they get rolled out.
Slightly off topic, but if 50mbit gets 5mbit up does that mean we're looking at a 10mbit up on the 100mbit?
Slightly off topic, but if 50mbit gets 5mbit up does that mean we're looking at a 10mbit up on the 100mbit?
At present no one knows but that would be likely.
At which time Virgin Media will be offering 100Mb.;)
True, but the upload speed would only be 10mb....I say only, compared to 1.75mb, that'd be dreamy, but still, it wouldn't be AS high as the fibre offerings from BT, from memory (I could be wrong mind you)
BT might have higher upload rates with the new fibre offerings, but VM appear to be more generous with the ammount they allow users to upload/download. Chances are you might get a faster upload speed with BT but not be allowed to max it out for long periods of time and/or quota.
pip08456
01-09-2010, 12:43
OK they do that and suddenly the network collapses because it is not ready for it, would you then complain about it.?:erm:
It needs to be done in stages so as not to overload and kill the network, yes they could flick a switch but that would be madness.:erm:
I don't expect them to do that. I was replying to Chrys' comment.
I don't expect them to do that. I was replying to Chrys' comment.
I know but your post was a perfect sounding board.;)
pip08456
01-09-2010, 13:46
Used and abused again:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes:
Used and abused again:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::roll eyes:
It was a fine post to use as I knw someone would post it sooner or later.;)
Chrysalis
01-09-2010, 14:44
I usually manage around 720 on my 20Mb connection fairly consistantly.
irrelevant to those who dont, kwikbreaks is right, they need to sort out oversubscription.
will my average 300-400kbit upload on speedtests go up or down when the speeds are rolled out? hmm time will tell.
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I don't expect them to do that. I was replying to Chrys' comment.
what you said is true, but given a reseg tends to take VM numerous months, the timeframe seems to not make sense.
what you said is true, but given a reseg tends to take VM numerous months, the timeframe seems to not make sense.
They could not just flick a switch as it would probably cause major issues on the network.
Chrysalis
01-09-2010, 14:59
They could not just flick a switch as it would probably cause major issues on the network.
the network already has some major issues :)
you talk as if there isnt any and they care.
the network already has some major issues :)
you talk as if there isnt any and they care.
That is the reason that they could not just flick a switch.:confused:
ethan103
01-09-2010, 18:04
In realation to BT Infinity, i can get in my area but the speeds they provide are no where near the 40/10 they advertise.
Typical BT.
pip08456
01-09-2010, 18:48
At least they tell you what you can expect.
ethan103
02-09-2010, 13:05
At least they tell you what you can expect.
As do VM, when the engineer comes round you can see what you get.
You dont like it, you cancel.
With BT they advertise one thing and delivery another.
I get more than what VM advertise...
Here is an interesting link for you.
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/broadband/speed-honesty.html?buspart=6469
Harlow CM20
02-09-2010, 15:18
I get more than what VM advertise...
How is that possible? surely, what vm advertise and the configs placed on our modems by the ubr are the same.
10Mb= upto but not over 10Mb because of the modem configuration file
20Mb= upto but not over 20Mb because of the modem configuration file
50Mb= upto but not over 50Mb because of the modem configuration file
How can you achieve higher than what's available? Are you in a trial area with larger bandwidth capabilities or do you have an adsl connection?
If adsl then what speeds do you recieve compared with what's advertised?
shake n bake
02-09-2010, 17:47
Just got this from one site
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/118.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
and then this
Kbps KBps Mbps MBps
Download Speed: 30677.67 3834.71 29.96 3.74
Upload Speed: 833.3 104.16 0.81 0.1
I guess its due to peak time :(
broadbandking
02-09-2010, 18:16
Might want to delete your cache, the the uploads are meant to be 10:1 so I am guessing that what will happen, I am looking forward to a annoucement from VM, when that will be who knows, VM have choose the right time to do this as BT can't shout now about there upload speeds been faster as VM are now concerating more on upload.
shake n bake
02-09-2010, 19:44
Been with Ntl/VM for years, would never change, even though they frustrate me alot:erm:
*sloman*
02-09-2010, 20:57
They could not just flick a switch as it would probably cause major issues on the network.
As a software tester, things need to be tested no matter how small. i work for a bank and they did release small changes with no testing but even these can cause major outages so now everything is tested/checked even text changes.
defects (problems) in testing cost £10-£100 per day to fix defects in live can cost £1000's per hour to fix!
if VM did the Big Bang approach and "flicked the switch" and this caused a nationwide outage think of the cost and the chaos this would cause.
Neo-Tech
03-09-2010, 07:45
Got my upload increase on 10MB last night :)
Internet wasn't working in the morning, had to get a new DHCP lease from the modem on the router, and it seems the ready light bug is fixed too :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/117.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
pabscars
03-09-2010, 07:50
Got my upload increase on 10MB last night :)
Internet wasn't working in the morning, had to get a new DHCP lease from the modem on the router, and it seems the ready light bug is fixed too :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/117.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
What area are you from Neo-Tech
Neo-Tech
03-09-2010, 08:01
Dewsbury, but I'm guessing it's part of the Huddersfield roll out.
pabscars
03-09-2010, 08:31
Cheers Neo, and enjoy :)
Nice one VM keep it coming, just a little further west please :)
Neo-Tech
03-09-2010, 08:35
Aha, no problem :) and I will do haha, just wondering when the Traffic Management will be updated because right now it's very easy to get capped =/
broadbandking
03-09-2010, 08:38
Aha, no problem :) and I will do haha, just wondering when the Traffic Management will be updated because right now it's very easy to get capped =/
I don't see it changing to be honest.
Neo-Tech
03-09-2010, 09:09
Sucks :( Will it ever be updated this year?
Anyone else been increased?
Will it always require rebooting the modem manually to update it?
ethan103
03-09-2010, 15:12
How is that possible? surely, what vm advertise and the configs placed on our modems by the ubr are the same.
10Mb= upto but not over 10Mb because of the modem configuration file
20Mb= upto but not over 20Mb because of the modem configuration file
50Mb= upto but not over 50Mb because of the modem configuration file
How can you achieve higher than what's available? Are you in a trial area with larger bandwidth capabilities or do you have an adsl connection?
If adsl then what speeds do you recieve compared with what's advertised?
I get:
51 Mb Download
1.68 Mb Upload.
More than what VM Advertise.
broadbandking
03-09-2010, 15:25
Thats because the the config file for 50Mb is set to 53Mb download and 1.75Mb upload, this allows for overheads.
I get:
51 Mb Download
1.68 Mb Upload.
More than what VM Advertise.
I remember broadbandking posting this a while back...
Its sold as 1.5Mb but VM set it at 1.75 to allow for overheads, as the downstream is set to 53Mb to allow for overheads
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Thats because the the config file for 50Mb is set to 53Mb download and 1.75Mb upload, this allows for overheads.
lol, ahh yes there we go, I just searched an quoted that when you posted it on another thread, too quick lol
ethan103
03-09-2010, 15:36
My point is, i get more :P
Not like BT, who advertise one with and give you wayyy less :P
I get:
51 Mb Download
1.68 Mb Upload.
More than what VM Advertise.
Actually your config file is set at 53Mb down and 1.75Mb up and you can check this in the config pages, so no surprise there whatsoever.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2012/12/20.gif
Synthetic
04-09-2010, 13:17
Hopefully this will hit newcastle soon :D
zeus9876
04-09-2010, 17:03
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/115.png
Is Upload Speed being upgraded UK wide?
pip08456
05-09-2010, 00:29
Yes eventually, it will happen over an undisclosed period area by area.
Neo-Tech
05-09-2010, 00:54
And I'm just lucky to be the first, once :P
pip08456
05-09-2010, 01:08
And I'm just lucky to be the first, once :P
Somebody has to be.:D:D:D:D
Guess the Hudds trial may be now a roll out.
I'm under that :-)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/113.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Neo-Tech
05-09-2010, 02:35
Somebody has to be.:D:D:D:D[/QUAs OTE]
As always :D
[QUOTE=Haighy;35085750]Guess the Hudds trial may be now a roll out.
I'm under that :-)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/113.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Wow, I'm jealous and drooling with envy :p:
Anyone on 20Mb got an upgrade yet or just 50mb
watzizname
05-09-2010, 10:25
Anyone on 20Mb got an upgrade yet or just 50mb
Someone on 10Mb has, see Post #63 in this very thread..
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33669067-50mb-upload-increase-finally-page-5.html
You do realise that nothing official has been announced and that this may just be a test in your area that can be downgraded at any time.
So until the is an official announcement do not take it for granted that the uploads you see are permanent.
broadbandking
05-09-2010, 14:14
I do wonder when the upgrades will be announced, surely can't be too long now *fingers crossed*
I do wonder when the upgrades will be announced, surely can't be too long now *fingers crossed*
I expect we will find out at the same time via an internal email.;)
broadbandking
05-09-2010, 14:20
Hopefully soon, I am looking forward to the amount of, "I have had to wait ages for my upgrade, its not fair, I pay for service, I want my upgrade" threads
shake n bake
05-09-2010, 16:50
:D:D
When will we get speeds like this? :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/112.png
When will we get speeds like this? :D
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/112.png
Probably when 100Mb starts to rollout but not as high a downstream.:D
Brian Hertz
05-09-2010, 23:04
Anyone on 20Mb got an upgrade yet or just 50mb
Yup!
Just noticed that my XL (in Plymouth) now hovers around 1.5Mbps, on the up. Virgin Media as communicative as ever. I mean, what's the point of covertly upgrading people without some trumpet blowing anyway?
I get enough junk post and emails from them. It wouldn't be such a strain to just send out a circular email, telling customers what's happening to the service they pay for..... would it?
Not that I'm ungrateful for them FINALLY addressing the pathetic upload speeds. :dozey:
pip08456
05-09-2010, 23:48
As Masque has already posted, it could be just a trial in your area and may be stopped if issues are found.
I'm sure the trumpets will be deafening when they finally do it officially.
I'm getting this on my Virgin connection
Download Failed (1)
Hurrah for leased lines :)
In the modem config I'm getting:-
Max Traffic Rate : 1750000 bps
that means 1.75mbit = 220kb/sec upload speed, right?
:)
In the modem config I'm getting:-
Max Traffic Rate : 1750000 bps
that means 1.75mbit = 220kb/sec upload speed, right?
:)
Just the normal upload for 50Mb.;)
Just the normal upload for 50Mb.;)
Ah, oh well :]
broadbandking
06-09-2010, 15:56
From the rumours simcut 50Mb will have a 5Mb upload.
virginruinedntl
06-09-2010, 16:54
does anyone know if the 100mb will be a new tier like XXXL or will 50mb users be upgraded to that and 20mb users stay where they are or maybe even 20mb users upgraded to 25mb in order to be faster than the theoretical 24mb that ADSL2+ can get? Upgrading 20mb to 25mb would be the best marketing-wise as none of the competition except for BT Infinity could claim to be faster. I can't see the 50mb being upgraded to 100mb AND 20mb users being upgraded to 50mb, would be nice though.
100Mbit will be a new tier
ileikcaek
06-09-2010, 21:17
does anyone know if the 100mb will be a new tier like XXXL or will 50mb users be upgraded to that and 20mb users stay where they are or maybe even 20mb users upgraded to 25mb in order to be faster than the theoretical 24mb that ADSL2+ can get? Upgrading 20mb to 25mb would be the best marketing-wise as none of the competition except for BT Infinity could claim to be faster. I can't see the 50mb being upgraded to 100mb AND 20mb users being upgraded to 50mb, would be nice though.
I quite like that idea of VM giving 20Mb customers 25Mb, it would be by far cheaper than upgrading all 20Mb customers to 50Mb I think.
Ignitionnet
06-09-2010, 23:41
Though not as cheap as not upgrading their downstream at all :)
theoldbill
07-09-2010, 09:14
I'm getting this on my Virgin connection
http://www.wwolves.com/pics/bandwidth.png
Hurrah for leased lines :)
For those on the forum interested, what are the costs for that and what link speed have you got?
Cromulent
07-09-2010, 10:10
For those on the forum interested, what are the costs for that and what link speed have you got?
I second this question :).
I second this question :).
I'll make a guess at about a grand per month. A Leased line is intended to be used by Businesses rather than Residential customers hence the cost.
Hmm, bit out of my price range that, heh
http://www.virginmediasofa.com/files/virginmedia/imagepicker/a/Annika/creating_a_bundle_500x400.jpglast friday we launched a brand-spanking-new virgin media cable service sales website for new and existing customers. The site is called shop.virginmedia.com (http://shop.virginmedia.com/) and it replaces the old allyours.virginmedia.com. We’ve made it a whole lot quicker and easier for customers to choose and build a bundle that’s just right for them.
We’ve also launched 2 new tools: The build order tool for new customers to build their own bundle (see image below) and the change package tool for existing customers to view and manage their cable services.
http://www.virginmediasofa.com/files/virginmedia/imagepicker/a/annika/creating_a_bundle_500x400.jpglooking good :d
And that's got to do with an upload increase on 50Mbit how exactly? ;)
And that's got to do with an upload increase on 50Mbit how exactly? ;)
you are correct! nothing i put it in wrong place sorry :dunce:
Neo-Tech
11-09-2010, 14:14
Masque was right. My trial lasted a week, hurrah :sleep:. Back to 0.5Mb/s upload.
Phil-ntl
11-09-2010, 15:22
Me too. back to 1.6mb up :mis:
On the plus side though, if that was a taste of things to come, then bring it on :)
Back to the old speed here too. Guess I'll just look forward to it :-)
Brian Hertz
15-09-2010, 00:47
As Masque has already posted, it could be just a trial in your area...
You won a coconut!
So are they going to actually implement this any time soon, or are they just tormenting us (further), at the risk of receiving another jiffy-bag of dog doo-dah through the post?
.... and should we expect the price hike before or after the upstream upgrades? ;)
Does anyone know if 1.75 upload is the new upload speed for 50MB or is this testing for 100MB -I guess the 50MB modem can also support 100MB ?
pip08456
15-09-2010, 00:59
I haven't had a coconut for years!!! How do I claim it??
SideWeaver
18-09-2010, 01:32
So, does this mean the speed I am getting at the moment will only be running for so long?
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/09/58.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Welshchris
18-09-2010, 01:58
maybe, maybe not its hard to say what they r doing atm but it seems they r just performing tests in certain areas.
As far as I know 1.75mb has always been the upload speed i've had on thr 50mb service, so would assume this is the nowmal upload speed, except for the trial duration where it was 5mb.
SideWeaver
18-09-2010, 20:14
Correct GordonD. It does look like they will roll out 5mb as the upload speed on 50mb.
I so want this upload speed increase so i can start to use online storage a bit more :)
so, are we any wiser as to when this is going to be rolled out? before the end of the year? :)
pip08456
24-09-2010, 22:33
In a word NO!
As soon as the is any news of a speed uplift we will endeavour to inform but only once it is official.
I so want this upload speed increase so i can start to use online storage a bit more :)
Im in the same boat, http://www.backblaze.com/ will be amazing :angel:
Im in the same boat, http://www.backblaze.com/ will be amazing :angel:
Heh I'd love to build a pod just for the hell of it...
http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/
As cheap as it is (for that much storage) I still don't have a few thousand just laying around for such a project.
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