What will be the next bandwidth sucker? [Archive]

|Kippa|

24-08-2010, 00:34

Jayster

24-08-2010, 00:38

4k resolution http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=4k&aq=f watch them in original.

kwikbreaks

24-08-2010, 08:14

I don't know what it will be but I'd hazard a guess that gaming and porn will be using the technology first....

caph

24-08-2010, 18:39

I think we've hit the max to be honest. Video was always going to be the worst bandwidth offender and there's an upper practical limit to definition. My living room size means 720p is more than enough for me. It was always going to happen that speed would overtake need.

When we're on terrabit bandwidth it will seem silly to us that were days when we could wait more than a fraction of a second to download anything. Of course, by then local ownership of material will also be a thing of the past as streaming of all info will be considered a utility.

One good thing will come of it, the ridiculous need for some to illegally download and store locally every possible movie/music track will become redundant. What will the saddo leachers do then?

Dai

24-08-2010, 19:42

3-D holographic projection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O-u4tGrqM4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpQloAn_3w

jrhnewark

25-08-2010, 10:55

We're not really at "true cloud" yet. You can't have all your porn stored on a remote server, only on a LAN. We're working towards that! :D

Video is a great bandwidth sucker, but it's all down to peering. VM peer directly with the BBC for example, which is a great idea.

3D HD video, as it's currently being implemented, actually uses sweet nothing more in bandwidth than normal HD. In fact, 3D TV as rolled out by Sky will technically be 50% HD as each frame will be left side, then right, then left etc. to give the impression of 3D in TV sets that can take that via HDMI and interpret it correctly. :)

Bman

26-08-2010, 13:32

I think in 10 years time, we will think nothing of logging into an account on a friends computer and having access to your entire home computer/network, all files included, they will probably be backed up to the cloud every time your computer is in use. That's if the upload speeds ever get any faster :)

zantarous

27-08-2010, 00:43

3D Holigraphic TV expected within 10 years http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/08/25/verizon.cisco.talk.about.holographic.tv.future/

I believe it has been touted that this will require about 4 times as much bandwidth as HD.

mjpartyboy

27-08-2010, 09:22

Over the years bandwidth needs have increased, especially with more and more legitimate online distribution, yet we're still in the dark ages with traffic management, throttling policies and download caps.

Example: VM 10 MB broadband, 1.5 GB cap 4pm-9pm. Download a demo on the Xbox Live Marketplace that's 1.5+ GB during this time, because for whatever reason it's not practical to wait until after 9pm, and you're throttled by 75% for the next five hours. This might be the first and only time you ever go over this threshold, yet you're still classed as one of the top 5% users.

|Kippa|

28-08-2010, 15:43

I tell you what would be nice, video chat/conferencing at HD resolutions at 25fps+.

kwikbreaks

29-08-2010, 09:48

I tell you what would be nice, video chat/conferencing at HD resolutions at 25fps+.

Well that certainly fits with my earlier prediction on early adopters...

I don't know what it will be but I'd hazard a guess that gaming and porn will be using the technology first....

colin25

29-08-2010, 12:52

I think it won't be holographic downloads.

But transporter beams...converting us into gazillion pieces and reassembling us at our destination.

There is of course the risk, that our pieces might get mixed up with someone else's.

If that happened, I'm hoping dirk diggler's best bits get swopped with mine :D

Stuart

29-08-2010, 13:25

I remember having 33.6k connecitons and downloading pictures was all the rage back then. Then napster came alonge and mp3s sucked loads of bandwidth. Now we have HD video and loads of people are downloading that. After high definition video, what could possibly be the next bandwidth sucker? The only thing I can think of is High Definition 3d video.

Oh yes, btw is there a sucessor to High Definition movies? Like Ultra High Definition movies on the cards in the future?

Depending on how well they do, On Demand Games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaming_on_demand) may require a lot of bandwith.

Also games download services (PSN, Xbox Live Arcade and Steam) need a lot of bandwidth.

jb66

29-08-2010, 21:54

3D TV in 1080P will take mega space

General Maximus

30-08-2010, 09:25

3D TV in 1080P will take mega space

and thus will be subject to traffic shaping because you are of course being selfish when you want to use your connection and you are affecting everyone else's day time internet experience. If you want to watch a movie be considerate and do it at 3am please.

broadbandking

30-08-2010, 10:47

Whats wrong with planning your viewing and download the movie you want over night to watch them on the evenings.

Sirius

30-08-2010, 11:06

Whats wrong with planning your viewing and download the movie you want over night to watch them on the evenings.

As for televised tv

Well if my V+ was reliable then yes i might and before you ask yes i have reported it, Its a feature to feck up recordings i have been told :rolleyes:

Funny that i have 3 of these V+ boxes and its mine on the TV in the back room that is the only one that messes up and reboots all the time.

So instead i download the stuff including HD that VM can NOT provide like Sky1 HD

As for TV over the internet that is streamed live how do i record that ???

Graham M

30-08-2010, 11:42

3D TV in 1080P will take mega space

Excuse me if I'm wrong but won't 1080p 3D pictures be exactly the same bandwidth as 1080p 2D pictures?

zantarous

30-08-2010, 13:30

Surely 1080p 3DTV will take a lot more bandwidth as each frame per eye is full resolution.

v0id

30-08-2010, 14:21

Whats wrong with planning your viewing and download the movie you want over night to watch them on the evenings.

I thnk that's what most people do when downloading U.S TV programmes ;)

jb66

30-08-2010, 17:16

and thus will be subject to traffic shaping because you are of course being selfish when you want to use your connection and you are affecting everyone else's day time internet experience. If you want to watch a movie be considerate and do it at 3am please.

I will download it when its invented when I want thank you very much and if i get traffic shaped C'est la vie.

BTW i can download movies at 3am and watch them when I please

colin25

30-08-2010, 17:19

I thought 3D used alternative frames for each eye..so no need for greater bandwidth

jb66

30-08-2010, 17:21

Excuse me if I'm wrong but won't 1080p 3D pictures be exactly the same bandwidth as 1080p 2D pictures?

At the moment yes, im gussing it is like that, but im looking to the future to sometihing that is GB hungry

A 3D TV or theater screen showing 3D content displays two separate images of the same scene simultaneously, one intended for the viewer's right eye and one for the left eye. The two full-size images occupy the entire screen and appear intermixed with one another--objects in one image often repeated or skewed slightly to the left (or right) of corresponding objects in the other--when viewed without the aid of special 3D glasses. When viewers don the glasses, they can perceive these two images as a single 3D image.

So if it were possible to display 2 1080P images side by side on a tv one for left eye and one for right, it'd be 40GB+ a file

General Maximus

30-08-2010, 19:28

Whats wrong with planning your viewing and download the movie you want over night to watch them on the evenings.

for the same reason people dont think of traffic congestion on motorways and travel at night. It isnt unreasonable to want to be able to go on the internet and download whatever you want whenever you want.

Ignitionnet

31-08-2010, 20:56

for the same reason people dont think of traffic congestion on motorways and travel at night. It isnt unreasonable to want to be able to go on the internet and download whatever you want whenever you want.

At the prices we pay and the performance levels we expect it is. People tolerate averaging 30MPH or less at peak times on the motorway but will jump up and down if their broadband service won't hit 50% of maximum.