X Factor: 2010

[iFrankie]

Starts 21st August at 8.30pm on ITV1!!, did it start this early last year?.

[Jameseh]

I think they're starting it early as they want to avoid releasing the single on the week of the xmas number one to stop the criticism.

[Stephen]

2009 X Factor started on the 21st August

2008 series started on the 16th August

2007 series started on the 16th August

So its not any earlier than previous years at all. It will there for end in time for Xmas No1 as usual.

[Peter_]

I think they're starting it early as they want to avoid releasing the single on the week of the xmas number one to stop the criticism.
Maybe if they lose the Christmas number one race again they will revise their scheduling.

Anyone remember the name of last years winner/loser:D and does he still have a recording contract.:D

[Stuart]

I think they're starting it early as they want to avoid releasing the single on the week of the xmas number one to stop the criticism.

I don't think Simon Cowell cares that much. He still gets millions in royalties..

If he did, the xfactor would be broadcast either in the Summer or starting in January.

In fact, if Simon Cowell cared about his artists as much as he says, he would concentrate on marketing the ones he has rather than launching more series that are (despite claims to the contrary) merely clones of Pop Idol with some bells and whistles.



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Maybe if they lose the Christmas number one race again they will revise their scheduling.

Anyone remember the name of last years winner/loser:D and does he still have a recording contract.:D

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McElderry#2010-present:_Post-X_Factor

It was Joe McElderry, and while it says he is recording an album, I think the fact they don't seem to have released a follow up solo single and he is eight months into the contract speaks volumes. I understand he is recording an album, but he is being pushed in a market where if you don't release something regularly, you can be forgotten.

[haydnwalker]

I think the same as you Stuart.

X-Factor got old after the 2nd series, mainly because its just the "people audition...someone wins...we never hear from them again" formula.

The only group that have had major success from TV Talent shows are Girls Aloud.

But I guess if Cowell still sees the cash, he's going to keep making more.

[Peter_]

It was Joe McElderry, and while it says he is recording an album, I think the fact they don't seem to have released a follow up solo single and he is eight months into the contract speaks volumes. I understand he is recording an album, but he is being pushed in a market where if you don't release something regularly, you can be forgotten.
I knew who it was but I expect him to disappear as the previous guy did.;)

[v0id]

I knew who it was but I expect him to disappear as the previous guy did.;)

...and who was that? I actually can't recall any of the winner since that Leona Lewis, and I couldn't even tell you what year she won it ..they all just blur into one.
If they really cared about the Xfactor winner's careers, they would have the show every two years, or even like the world cup, every four years

[speedfreak]

...and who was that? I actually can't recall any of the winner since that Leona Lewis, and I couldn't even tell you what year she won it ..they all just blur into one.
If they really cared about the Xfactor winner's careers, they would have the show every two years, or even like the world cup, every four years

Joe, I only know because he was on the news recently saying he'd "come out"

Im on it this year, keep an eye out everyone :D

[iFrankie]

Joe, I only know because he was on the news recently saying he'd "come out"

Im on it this year, keep an eye out everyone :D

Your now CF Under Cover Spy :D

[Peter_]

...and who was that? I actually can't recall any of the winner since that Leona Lewis, and I couldn't even tell you what year she won it ..they all just blur into one.
If they really cared about the Xfactor winner's careers, they would have the show every two years, or even like the world cup, every four years
Some Scottish guy who I cannot even be bothered to google as he was that bad.:D

[iFrankie]

2009 X Factor started on the 21st August

2008 series started on the 16th August

2007 series started on the 16th August

So its not any earlier than previous years at all. It will there for end in time for Xmas No1 as usual.

Well in that case where did the year go?!, it went so fast :shocked:

[Sasha222]

Leona is the only one who done really well out of it and set the bar for anyone coming on the show after that. Last years one was a joke with Jedward.

[iFrankie]

Alexandra seems to be doing very well in the charts these days, also JLS have had a number 1 god knows how many times and they are trying to break into America.

[Stuart]

Just looked up a list of winners on Wikipedia. Out of 18 winners (I am counting 1st, 2nd and 3rd places as winners), there are three that succeeded. JLS, Alexandra Burke and Leona Lewis.

[iFrankie]

What a terrible start to the show, its clear he couldn't sing yet they put him through! lol.

[Sasha222]

I didn't know that it had started tonight. Will it be repeated again as I was out. If I had known it was on I would have put it on to record

[v0id]

I didn't know that it had started tonight. Will it be repeated again as I was out. If I had known it was on I would have put it on to record

It's repeated on ITV2 at midnight (so in 5 minutes) or on ITV1 at 2:45pm tomorrow

[Sasha222]

Thanks void. Any chance of it being repeated tomorrow. To tired now to watch it

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It's repeated on ITV2 at midnight (so in 5 minutes) or on ITV1 at 2:45pm tomorrow

Just saw you said 2.45 tomorrow. :dunce:

[Ben B]

Haha, that Asian group singing Bad Romance were terrible!

[Sasha222]

Is it worth watching the repeat

[Ben B]

I haven't watched it properly yet but some of them were good and the bad ones were hilarious that I saw

[Sasha222]

Oh good something to look forward to so tomorrow. Thanks Ben.

[speedfreak]

Haha, that Asian group singing Bad Romance were terrible!

terrible isn't the word. My ears have fallen out with me. Funniest thing was one of the girls blaming the other girls over her singing as they trotted away, they were all terrible, worst thing was they actually thought they were good

[Boaz]

I thought Shirleena was hilarious singing Mercy and the fact that she had made it up as she went along was great. :D

Simon was being nice for a change. :erm:

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Mary Bryne will win, her voice was powerful, better than the other crap.

[Kingofthedead4]

Mary Bryne will win, her voice was powerful, better than the other crap.

Only thing I did not like how she said she had lost her bottle when she had won an Irish talent contest in 2005.

[Boaz]

That Storm guy was good. I thought Simon was really rude not to call him by his name like that. I also like Cher.

[Sasha222]

Only thing I did not like how she said she had lost her bottle when she had won an Irish talent contest in 2005.

Any chance of a link please Kingoftheded4 to her as I'm waiting till the live finals before I watch it

[Ben B]

X Factor was funny tonight along with some good acts, but I didn't think that one that got a second chance at an audition at the end was that good

[Peter_]

X Factor was funny tonight along with some good acts, but I didn't think that one that got a second chance at an audition at the end was that good
I take it that you never listen to the type of music he sang, I actually watched this show tonight ( which is unusual for me ) and did find him to be very good and as Louie says he needs work but as he is only 19 he has plenty of time.

[Ben B]

I know, I wouldn't say he wasn't good at all but Louis was making him out to be better than he was if you get me, he did deserve to be put through though

[Peter_]

I know, I wouldn't say he wasn't good at all but Louis was making him out to be better than he was if you get me, he did deserve to be put through though
He messed up the second part of the first song which put Cheryl and Simon off but I have always believed that many of the acts are contrived and the judges have already heard them prior to the show and he fits that to a T.

[Sasha222]

Did anyone see see Hazel. She was so funny but also looked like a way older version of Sharon Osbourne :shocked:

[Arthurgray50@blu]

To be quite honest with you, this series is not as good as previous series, SC is going soft, especially with that female, who look like she was high on booze, and even though she was a crap singer, he still put her through, put it this way, the Sharon Osbourne look a like was better than her, and she took her dismissal on the chin.

[iFrankie]

To be quite honest with you, this series is not as good as previous series, SC is going soft, especially with that female, who look like she was high on booze, and even though she was a crap singer, he still put her through, put it this way, the Sharon Osbourne look a like was better than her, and she took her dismissal on the chin.

Couldn't agree more, they keep going on about how serious the show is but yet they put through someone who clearly can't sing, and someone who doesn't look like she could be a role model for younger viewers.

[Sasha222]

He has his money made and now he dont care on way or another which way it goes or even if it gets good or bad ratings. I was shocked that she was put through as well. I hate the way the format was changed as well. I preffered when they went into the judges room and then they went on stage to boot camp and then the live stages.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Saturdays show was totally rubbish, l think that SC and the judges have lost that magic touch.

It was a show that l used to watch with eagerness every Saturday, but my god has it gone down hill, A complete revamp is urgerntly needed.

[Aragorn]

Looks the show has it's very own escort girl (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1314122/X-FACTOR-2010-Escort-Chloe-Mafia-charges-shes-show.html) now :shocked: I remember thinking she looked a right **** - probably for a good reason!

[iFrankie]

I remember her from Snog Marry Avoid, shes a wreck lol.

[Peter_]

I remember her from Snog Marry Avoid, shes a wreck lol.
I saw her on that as well.:erm:

[Boaz]

What did you make of the 'new dance routine' that the contestants had to endure? Do you think this was a wise decision or do you think that they should only concentrate on their voices or maybe both together?

[Ben B]

Last I heard it was a singing competition not a dancing competition so they shouldn't have to learn how to dance as well

[Sasha222]

Is next week the start of the live show?

[Sasha222]

That was some performance from Mary. Some really good singers this year.

[Ben B]

Hahaha, so glad Wagner got through, so funny :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq49Gv3wFB0

[iFrankie]

Gutted Nicolo went :( there was something about him that i loved... :D.

Ah well he'll become a good model.

[Boaz]

I was real shocked that Wagner got through. :D

My favourite is Matt, although I don't think he will win it. TreyC looks more likely to imo.

Looks like Katie may be out this week....

[Tinky]

Surely Wagner's got to go tonight and perhaps, and perhaps Katie....
what say you? :D

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I hope it is Wagner, he is useless, and SC boy band, totally out of tune, no l think it will be Wagner and that geezer with the horrible Jedward hairstyle.

[Stephen]

It's not a double tonight. It will only be one contestant leaving.

Loved Katies song last night. Highlight of the evening for me.

[Sasha222]

Surely Wagner's got to go tonight and perhaps, and perhaps Katie....
what say you? :D

I cant believe that John went over Wagner. Mary and Wagner should have been in the bottom two. Bet It's set up for a Katie win :mad:

[Ben B]

Wagner, Wagner, Wagner, Wagner, Wagner :cleader:

[Sasha222]

Ha Ha you do a lovely dance Ben. You and wagner should partner up. Ye would make a good couple ;):D:D:D:D:D:D

[Sasha222]

What is wrong with all of the contestants tonight. Not one of them have been good so far and the songs are boring :shocked:

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Matt deserves to win after that performance. Wow he was the best so far.

[Ben B]

Wagner, he was brill

[Sasha222]

He was ok but I'm not a fan of his and good singers shouldn't be going over him. It's supposed to be a song compition. He's funny but that is where I have to stop

[Hom3r]

Just found out that "X-Factor's" Wagner is pronounced, "Dirty old git" :D

[Sasha222]

Tell us more. Spill :erm:

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Wonder who Cheryl will pick to send home out of the two or will she send it to deadlock?

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That was so so unfair. Tracy was the better singer. Not great but better than katie

[Gary L]

Oooh. looks like Cheryl Bloody Cole is the publics no1 hate figure after tonights XFactor :)

[Sasha222]

Why what is being said? Could never understand why she is called the nations sweet heart to begin with anyway

[Gary L]

She refused to vote for an act. resulting in it being 2 to TreyC and 1 to Katie. so TreyC goes. if she had of voted it would have gone to deadlock where the public would have decided, and TreyC would have stayed.

Some people are calling OFCOM whilst the others are still smashing their own homes up :)

and the only reason Cheryl is at number one with her album is because we have Cheryl constantly rammed down our throats every day.

[Raistlin]

if she had of voted it would have gone to deadlock where the public would have decided, and TreyC would have stayed.

Unless of course she's voted for 'TreyC' in which case it would have been 3-1 against her, she'd have gone out, and Cheryl would have been in the wrong again.

TBH, whilst that talentless arse Wagner is still in there are bigger questions to be raised about X-Factor than whether or not TreyC should have gone home.

If the public genuinely *are* voting for him then they want their damn heads examined.

[Hugh]

Mmmmmm.....

Cheryl, rammed, throat........

Mmmmmm.....

[Gary L]

Unless of course she's voted for 'TreyC' in which case it would have been 3-1 against her, she'd have gone out, and Cheryl would have been in the wrong again.

She did say to ask the others first and she will take it to deadlock. but they didn't. they took the result as 2-1.

TBH, whilst that talentless arse Wagner is still in there are bigger questions to be raised about X-Factor than whether or not TreyC should have gone home.

If the public genuinely *are* voting for him then they want their damn heads examined.

There's an internet campaign to keep voting Wagner to win the show. it seems to be working.

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Mmmmmm.....

Cheryl, rammed, throat........

Mmmmmm.....

Choosy, can afford to be, some of us.......

[Sasha222]

The X factor has stopped becoming about singing talent a long time ago and is now just a joke. Wagner should have gone a long time ago and good acts will keep suffering like last year when the twins were kept in.

[Gary L]

The X factor has stopped becoming about singing talent a long time ago and is now just a joke. Wagner should have gone a long time ago and good acts will keep suffering like last year when the twins were kept in.

I think it's because they make the money from the controversy surrounding the show and the voting that goes with it. when the show finishes they make the money from the winners and losers anyway.

they have all said how good Wagner is. where before they (especially Simon) would say the complete opposite.

[Hugh]

Choosy, can afford to be, some of us......
Yeah, right....:D

[Sasha222]

They may as well hand make Wagner the winner now as he is going to be kept in. I cant personally see what people see in him and want to vote for him.

[Jimmy-J]

I think Katey did better than TreyC in the sing off. As for Cheryl Cole, she's not as good as either of them!

[Sasha222]

I think Treyc done a better job but for some reason Katie seems to be the judges fav so Katie gets to stay. Even Treyc could singer better than Cheryl Cole. Katie is just a drama queen and attention seeker

[Gary L]

I think Treyc done a better job but for some reason Katie seems to be the judges fav so Katie gets to stay. Even Treyc could singer better than Cheryl Cole. Katie is just a drama queen and attention seeker

I like Katies voice. it has it's own characteristics. a bit like Diana Vickers. (it must be the squealy bits I like) not a fan of the square chin though :) and to be honest TreyC singing tonight she had a sort of a judder in her voice all the way through. she's been good in the past though.

[Sasha222]

Didn't like Diane vickers for the same reason. Treyc was nervous. Anyway just glad matt didn't go or Paize or whatever way his name is spelled. I really like those two and think they were the best last night. I would love one of Danni's acts to win as this year I think she is the best judge and she dont care what the other judges say. She says it like she sees it on the night and that is good enough for me. The other three are just a joke this year.

[iFrankie]

My favorites so far are Matt and Rebecca.

Matt's voice is absolutely amazing, i look forward to him every week.

Rebecca is just perfect.

[Sasha222]

Not one of the acts so far are any good. Even Matt who is my fav was struggling tonight :shocked:

[Gary L]

I liked Rebecca's voice. I think she should sing Almaz by Randy Crawford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4MRIv1tc9I

[Sasha222]

I usually like her but not one of them were any good tonight. :(

[Tinky]

I liked Rebecca's voice. I think she should sing Almaz by Randy Crawford.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4MRIv1tc9I

Not one of the acts so far are any good. Even Matt who is my fav was struggling tonight :shocked:

I agree on both counts imho none of them are much good, but someone has to win. I thought One direction were quite good tonight, but as for Wagner he's just a joke, but we all know why he is still there. :D

[Sasha222]

It was one of the most boring X Factors yet and I thought it would never end. I think that Katie is being pushed down our throats to win. But if Facebook have anything to do with it Wagner will win just to annoy Simon Cowell.

[Gary L]

Wagner will win just to annoy Simon Cowell.

I'm ok with that :)

[Sasha222]

I want Matt to win. I think he really is the only good singer on the show out of a bad bunch.

[Tinky]

So who's getting the boot tonight then? Surely not Wagner! :D

[Sasha222]

It's a double knock out. I hope Its him and katie or Cher will do as well

[Tinky]

Didn't realise it was a double knockout tonight. Hmm that's going to be interesting. :D

[Sasha222]

Ya wonder who will be the two who will go? :erm:

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WHAT! :shocked: I thought it would be Katie. Was hoping it would be her :mad::mad::mad::mad:

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I thought it was a double tonight :(

[Gary L]

WHAT! :shocked: I thought it would be Katie. Was hoping it would be her :mad::mad::mad::mad:

LOL she sang beautifully :)
he can't sing at all and he's got a stinking attitude :)

[Sasha222]

Dermot never said who was the guest singer next week :(

[martyh]

katies been in the bottom 2 4 times that tells me the public don't like her only the judges want her in . I think people are voting for wagner to try and get Katie out

[Sasha222]

There voting for Wagner to annoy Simon Cowell which is stupid as good singers well better singers than Wagner being voted out and then Simon Cowell Said last week that Trec was a better singer but he will keep in who the public find enternaning. :mad::mad::mad: It's only the judges like her and cant understand who did keep her in tonight :mad:

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I am bloody furious at this silly childest game that people are having, It is about time people got off Katie's back and got rid of that idiot Wagner, who is ten times worse than the Jedward twins.

It was also said tonight by Aiden after he lost out that the bottom three votes were on twitter, how the hell do they know, is there a mole in the voting office giving out details.

This is a damn singing contest and Katie deserves to be there, Aiden doesn't, his attitude stinks, and there have been some good singers that have been voted off, and probably due to this sickining voting farce, that has to stop, otherwise the show will become a farce, and that is unfair on the singers that are good enough to win - remember this is a SINGING contest.:mad:

[Sasha222]

The show has been a farse since last year. People like Katie and people dont. People like Wagner and people dont. I'm annoyed that the two of them were kept in but I'm not going to let it take over my life. Katie was crap last week on the sing of and Simon Cowell said that Treyc was the better singer but he wold keep Katie and let Treyc go.

[v0id]

The right one this week went home though to be honest.
That Aiden shouldn't have even got to the live shows, he can't sing in tune and wasn't even [painfully] entertaining like Wagner (or Jedward from last year).

If Mary goes next followed by the Brazillian from Dudley the week after, Xfactor can finally become a singing competiton again.

[Sasha222]

None of them are any good except Matt and good is all I would call him. None of them stand out. Matt stands out in a bad bunch

[Tezcatlipoca]

Wagner? :erm: :confused:

[Sasha222]

I totally agree with you. I cant understand why he is being kept in

[Tezcatlipoca]

LOL, sorry, I don't watch it. I was going ":erm: :confused:" at the name ;)

[Sasha222]

Oh well you gave me a good laugh. A laugh I needed. So thank you :D:D:D:D:D

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LOL, sorry, I don't watch it. I was going ":erm: :confused:" at the name ;)

I know us women are good and can multi task but we didn't get to the stage yet where we can read the mens minds. I suppose just as well as we I dont think we would want to see some of the things ye are thinking :D:D:D:D:D:D

[v0id]

LOL, sorry, I don't watch it. I was going ":erm: :confused:" at the name ;)

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/70339,people,entertainment,stephen-fry-in-wagner-mash-up

[Pierre]

It would be brilliant if Wagbo made it to the final or even won it, because it would kill the show stone dead.

[Sasha222]

I dont think it would as it gets massive viewing figures

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What are the theme songs for tonight?

[v0id]

Let the butchering of The Beatles songs commence ...starting with that god awful performance of "Come Together"

[Sasha222]

Have to say I dont like the beatles songs and I usually like Matt and he is my fav to win but I did turn down the sound with that song

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Wow! Paije was the best of the night.

[Ben B]

Mary was really good tonight, probably the best out of the lot with Wagner coming close second

[Sasha222]

Out of the whole lot Paije was the best. I had to put on the mute button after a few words from the others. On Xtra factor Louis Walsh was very rude to the girl who gave her opinion about kate. It's an opinion line and he may not have liked what he said but that's what the line is open for. Why is she being protected so much. Danny out of all the judges says it as she sees it and I admire her for that

[Arthurgray50@blu]

WAGNER has got through, PLEASE, PLEASE, all those sick people out there who are voting for this idiot, please stop, he cannot sing at all, he completely ruined the Beatles songs, and two GOOD singers could be going home.

This is a singing comp,

[Gary L]

This is a singing comp,

Oh no it isn't :D

[Sasha222]

WAGNER has got through, PLEASE, PLEASE, all those sick people out there who are voting for this idiot, please stop, he cannot sing at all, he completely ruined the Beatles songs, and two GOOD singers could be going home.

This is a singing comp,

I totally agree with you and it stopped being a singing compition a long time ago

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Cannot believe Paije went over Wagner :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Ben B]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha, go Wagner! Wish Louis had of sent it to deadlock cause I reck Cher would have gone if he had

[Sasha222]

It's gone beyond a joke that a good singer went over him :mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Gary L]

Has anyone on The Xtra Factor said anything about the internet joke to keep Wagner in every week? there was a question earlier to Cheryl Bloody Cole asking her why she thought Wagner was being voted over the other acts. she said she doesn't know.
it's obvious the show and it's producers know about it.

The joke it is. I think it's a bit unfair for people to actually blame Wagner for it. what's he supposed to do, volunteer to leave the show when he knows he might win and make loads of money? :D

[martyh]

Has anyone on The Xtra Factor said anything about the internet joke to keep Wagner in every week? there was a question earlier to Cheryl Bloody Cole asking her why she thought Wagner was being voted over the other acts. she said she doesn't know.
it's obvious the show and it's producers know about it.

The joke it is. I think it's a bit unfair for people to actually blame Wagner for it. what's he supposed to do, volunteer to leave the show when he knows he might win and make loads of money? :D


notice they didn't let him sing in the "hero" song :D

[Gary L]

notice they didn't let him sing in the "hero" song :D

He sings dead notes. that's why :D

[Sasha222]

Has anyone on The Xtra Factor said anything about the internet joke to keep Wagner in every week? there was a question earlier to Cheryl Bloody Cole asking her why she thought Wagner was being voted over the other acts. she said she doesn't know.
it's obvious the show and it's producers know about it.

The joke it is. I think it's a bit unfair for people to actually blame Wagner for it. what's he supposed to do, volunteer to leave the show when he knows he might win and make loads of money? :D

He should leave if he had any decency in him looking at good acts going over him when he cant sing. I would have more respect for him

[Peter_]

They are keeping Wagner in because he is a cash cow and the votes will be stacked in his favour that is if they are actually taken into consideration at all, remember this programme belongs to SYCO and you know who owns that.

Each year they have what is basically a clown/hate act that everyone wants rid of but week after week they survive! do you really believe that the are that many stupid people out there voting, more likely the so called voting system is manipulated to ensure the dud act stays therefore generating more money.

Also I believe that each year they already know who the 3 finalists will be well before they ever get to that point, if you believe otherwise then I just happen to have this bridge for sale to you only at a cheap rate.

[Sasha222]

I never thought they would manipulate the vote after all of the scandals espically when Itv had to pay loads of big fines.

[Peter_]

I never thought they would manipulate the vote after all of the scandals espically when Itv had to pay loads of big fines.
The will be ways and means as I do not believe for one second that in a genuine vote that rubbish like him and the idiot twins from last year would survive the first weeks live vote.

[Gary L]

He should leave if he had any decency in him looking at good acts going over him when he cant sing. I would have more respect for him

He may be deluded thinking that he really is liked by the public. but out of the acts that are left. if any are any good they will go somewhere. just like the others have done in the past.

[Sasha222]

Ya back into the place they were before they joined the x factor :D:D:D

[Gary L]

Also I believe that each year they already know who the 3 finalists will be well before they ever get to that point, if you believe otherwise then I just happen to have this bridge for sale to you only at a cheap rate.

Bridge?
much traffic? minimal damp?

[Peter_]

Bridge?
much traffic? minimal damp?
A little bit damp as it is presently spanning a river.

Runcorn bridge.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2010/11/30.jpg

[Sasha222]

Is that the bridge your thinking of jumping of Masque :erm:

[Peter_]

Is that the bridge your thinking of jumping of Masque :erm:
No but a better jumper would be Wagner and Wagbo.:D

[Sasha222]

Who is Waggo? :erm:

[Peter_]

Who is Waggo? :erm:
Click Me. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN2hKOtPZK4) to see Wagbo.:D

[Sasha222]

Ha Ha very good I love him :D:D:D:D

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Matt is fuming and I dont blame him but wish he had said what he was really thinking and that was that Wagner should have gone and that Paije was still there. Why is Cher gone away sulking. She was kept in :mad::mad:

[iFrankie]

You know whats going on, people who "hate" the show watch and vote for wagner, its so sooo obvious.

Do people not have anything better to do with there spare time other than picking the phone up and saving a complete moron who can't sing, GAWD DAMN, makes me angry.

Also im feeling sorry for Katy, at first i couldn't stand her and i thought she was fake, but i've come to like her, again MORON people sending her death threats for the reason of?, i don't understand this public what so ever.

[Sasha222]

I agree with you about the WAGNER situation and think It's very unfair that he is kept in and also the idiots sending death threats to Katy. I still dont like her as regards but some people take things to far. I dont get her and think she is very unforgettable and it wouldn't bother me if she was voted out. I think Cher should have been voted of by the judges tonight and not Paije. He was the best of the night last night even better than Matt and I like Matt and think he is a very good singer but he was bad last night

[iFrankie]

I agree with you about the WAGNER situation and think It's very unfair that he is kept in and also the idiots sending death threats to Katy. I still dont like her as regards but some people take things to far. I dont get her and think she is very unforgettable and it wouldn't bother me if she was voted out. I think Cher should have been voted of by the judges tonight and not Paije. He was the best of the night last night even better than Matt and I like Matt and think he is a very good singer but he was bad last night

Me and my step mum said the same thing about Matt not being as good as previous weeks and also paige should of been saved, he has so much more to offer, Cher will probably get a record contract anyway when she leaves haha.

My sister said Matt looks like a thinner version of Johnny Vegas, haha i don't see it myself.

[Sasha222]

Cant see many people buying a cher cd but who knows how many crazy people would. The same people who are keeping her in. I cant understand why the judges last night said that cher didn't give a great performance and then kept her in and same with Kate. Why I would love to know?

[Pierre]

WAGNER has got through, PLEASE, PLEASE, all those sick people out there who are voting for this idiot, please stop, he cannot sing at all, he completely ruined the Beatles songs, and two GOOD singers could be going home.

This is a singing comp,

Wagner to win for me.

[Sasha222]

I'm finding it hard to see what people see in him. What am I missing and what do you see in him that justifies him as a winner as he doesn't have a note in his head and It's supposed to be a singing compition not a popularity competition

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

Wagner to win for me.

Seconded!

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I'm finding it hard to see what people see in him. What am I missing and what do you see in him that justifies him as a winner as he doesn't have a note in his head and It's supposed to be a singing compition not a popularity competition

If thats the case why is Cher still in it? It's actually a vehicle for Cowell to make money. He wants the person who will sell the most records to win, and if that person is not the strongest singer, he won't care. If he was voting on the strongest singer he would have voted Paige in and not Cher.

[Gary L]

If thats the case why is Cher still in it? It's actually a vehicle for Cowell to make money. He wants the person who will sell the most records to win, and if that person is not the strongest singer, he won't care. If he was voting on the strongest singer he would have voted Paige in and not Cher.

Cowell has said when it came to voting who goes that he's basing his decision on who the public (audience) want to stay in. he didn't do it last night. although he was thinking about it.

[Sasha222]

The thing is the public dont like Cher hense being in the bottom two and if the prat Walshe had put it to deadlock he Cher would have gone. The public dont like Katie either and I'm surprised that she made it past the bottom two last night. Louie Walsh has been slagging Cher of all week and yet decides to save her last night.

[Saaf_laandon_mo]

The thing is the public dont like Cher hense being in the bottom two and if the prat Walshe had put it to deadlock he Cher would have gone. The public dont like Katie either and I'm surprised that she made it past the bottom two last night. Louie Walsh has been slagging Cher of all week and yet decides to save her last night.

Hence why I want Wagner to win. Put an end to this sham. Power to the people, lol!

[Gary L]

The thing is the public dont like Cher hense being in the bottom two and if the prat Walshe had put it to deadlock he Cher would have gone. The public dont like Katie either and I'm surprised that she made it past the bottom two last night. Louie Walsh has been slagging Cher of all week and yet decides to save her last night.

The fact that Katie wasn't in the bottom 2 means that the public are changing their mind throughout the show. I like them all but I don't vote. I let the angry and frustrated public spend their money for me instead :)

[Sasha222]

I still dont like her and dont think she has a good voice. I'm like you and couldn't be bothered voting either even do Ireland has got the right to vote back this year

[Gary L]

Wagner stayed in this week because he bigged up Cheryl on the show. the braindead voted him as a reward :)

[Sasha222]

Ah right. I understand now. :D:D

[Pierre]

I'm finding it hard to see what people see in him. What am I missing and what do you see in him that justifies him as a winner as he doesn't have a note in his head and It's supposed to be a singing compition not a popularity competition

It's not a singing competition.

Firstly it's an ego trip for Simon Cowell, and St Cheryl of Cole.

Secondly it's an entertainment show, if it was a singing competition Wagner would not have even got through the first round of auditions, every year they put through someone similar, Chico, jedward, Wagner etc. for entertainment value.

If it was a singing competition then Cowell would not have put through Katie pver Trayc after he himself said that Trayc was the better singer???

I want Wagner to win as it will go a long way to killing the series off. Jo Mceldry (spelling) nearly did it but not quite.

Wagner winning would make a mockery of the process, I want him in the final at the very least.

[Sasha222]

I agree that the judges have a lot to answer for by putting them forward to the finals but why destroy what was once a good show, well until the Jedward stupid thing happened. Why no not go the other way and vote the stupid acts out who cant sing and then let it be a singing compition. :erm:

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Tomorrow night sees another show, and l am pleading with everyone- lets end this stupidty of constantly spending too much money on that idiot WAGNER, the singer is getting a large fan base.

In this in the end that it will be embarrassment to ITV and Simon Cowell, but the worst thing that will happen is that there will be genuine people who want to vote for the act, and therefore will be 'technically' wasting there money, when l heard of this crazy voting for this idiot, it ruined the show for me, and l stopped voting.
Remember, this show is about finding an act, that could not find there way into the record business by the normal way, so went onto a reality show.

[martyh]

i think this will get closed arthur as we already have a x-factor thread;)

[Halcyon]

The show is a total joke anyway. It used to be a about finding a star, someone that took the world by storm becuase they had a real singing talent.
Last year Jedward showed us how much this show isnt about music anymore and now Wagner is doing it this year.

[MovedGoalPosts]

just as we didn't need loads of Big Brother threads, we don't need loads on X-Factor. Merged ;)

[MTJR]

Sorry Arthur, never been a fan of X-Factor/Pop Idol so anything that gets the show off the air is fine by me.

Having said that, it was my understanding that the people that make it into the voting section of the show do so because the "expert judges" decided to put them there. If they were putting people into that part of the show on the basis that they were making up the numbers then serves them right for that as well.

People managed to get record deals before X-Factor and will continue to get them after as well. We don't need to be spoon fed the people we should like by a TV programme.

[Sasha222]

Sorry Arthur, never been a fan of X-Factor/Pop Idol so anything that gets the show off the air is fine by me.

Having said that, it was my understanding that the people that make it into the voting section of the show do so because the "expert judges" decided to put them there. If they were putting people into that part of the show on the basis that they were making up the numbers then serves them right for that as well.

People managed to get record deals before X-Factor and will continue to get them after as well. We don't need to be spoon fed the people we should like by a TV programme.

For somone who doesn't watch a the X factor you seem to have an awful lot of knowledge aobut it. Hmmmmmmmmmm :erm:

[MTJR]

For somone who doesn't watch a the X factor you seem to have an awful lot of knowledge aobut it. Hmmmmmmmmmm :erm:

It's difficult to live a life and avoid the thing even if you don't watch it. It's all over the place. I know a number of people who think it's great but they're only let out on weekends and they have to wear some strange jackets. ;)

[Sasha222]

Well I cant stand sport and Its all over the place and I couldn't tell you one thing about it. Also just because I cant stand stand sport I wouldn't be looking for it to be cancelled. Each to there own on what they like and dont like

[MTJR]

My only wish for it to be removed is that we can hope it's replaced with something I do like. If people want to watch it or even have a channel completely devoted to it then fine, don't bother me. Personally, I'd like it gone.

[Sasha222]

Ya thats your choice if you want it removed. Your entitled to that but theres hundreds of channels that you have a choice to go to. It's not like that channel all of a sudden on It's own comes on and you have to watch it. I would like a lot of things gone as well but I do understand that what is not my taste is othere peoples so there for I respect that. Soccer takes over the soaps sometimes but that is the way it is and the way they decide to run the programmes. Does it annoy me of course it does but I just go away and watch something else. I dont call for sport to be removed.

I just accept other people do like different things and thats it. I dont go on threads slagging of what the people like and giving out about it.

[MTJR]

I dont go on threads slagging of what the people like and giving out about it.

:confused: I didn't think I was.

[Sasha222]

Put it this way. This is a thread for poeple who like X factor and to discuss the show and the acts they like and dont like. Fair enough if you want to join in and give constructive posts about it but this thread is'nt for slagging it of and I dont think It's fair. I really do understand you dont like it, I even understand you cant stand it and I do understand you want it of the air and thats your choice. Lets just agree to disagree

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I read on the web page Vote for the worst.com that someone pays £30.00 per week for WAGNER, are they totally mental.

Who is going tomorrow, any guesses ?

[Sasha222]

They must have more money than sense. I wouldn't be surprised if Matt was in the bottom two as he is telling the truth about the joke of keeping in Wagner and speaking out about it which some people dont like. I think either Cher or Mary could be at the bottom but It's hard to call :(

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What's the theme for tonight anyone know?

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Danni is starting to losing the plot now. Loius Walsh is a right prat. He moved out of the house please let this be the last time he is on stage and he moves on from the show tomorrow night. I can only hope :(

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I honestly cant see how they think she is the best in the competion. She can sing but that is it. She doesn't have the WOW factor :erm:

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He was the best and I hope he's not voted out tomorrow night.

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:erm: Didn't expect that. Thought it was finished :D

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I strongly believe that the bottom Two will be Mary Byrne and Cher will be in the bottom two, and it will be very sad.

By far the worst performance of the night, again was Wagner. He cannot sing, or perform, and yet people are insuring that he wins the show, they must be totally mindless *****,.

I also believe that One Direction will win with Matt in second place, IF Wagner wins, then l think it will be a travesty . And the people that have lost there money on voting, should claim it back.

[Sasha222]

Unless there was a fix in the phone lines to make someone a winner then I dont think the people will get there money back just becasue of Wagner winning the show. If he was voted fair and square then there is nothing that can be done about it. People are just voting to annoy Simon Cowell for Wagner in there droves but what they are forgetting they are building up his bank account and no matter what happens Simon Cowell will be have to give him a record deal.

All the songs were boring tonight but out of all of them Matt was the best out of a bad bunch.

I have to say Danny is the best judge and is not afraid to speak her mind and say how it is. The other judges are tone deaf this year

[LSainsbury]

I read on the web page Vote for the worst.com that someone pays £30.00 per week for WAGNER, are they totally mental.




Bloody hell! That was *almost* a link from Arthur! Go on Arthur - link up them words and click the globe / chain icon above!! :D

GO WAGNER!!

[Sasha222]

Bloody hell! That was *almost* a link from Arthur! Go on Arthur - link up them words and click the globe / chain icon above!! :D

GO WAGNER!!

That is very unfair. Enough is enough. He doesn't have to post a link so what is your problem. Is this another start to a bashing Arthur? I hope some day when you need help from a poster you wont get the same rude response

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I can't believe you Sainsbury,you want Wagner to win, I suggest you get in the same boat as him, and even if he did win, Cowell will do the same as he did with Brookstein - Nothing.

[Sasha222]

Well said Arthur. Good on you :D:D:D

[LSainsbury]

That is very unfair. Enough is enough. He doesn't have to post a link so what is your problem. Is this another start to a bashing Arthur? I hope some day when you need help from a poster you wont get the same rude response


It was said in jest - hence the smile smiley.

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I can't believe you Sainsbury,you want Wagner to win, I suggest you get in the same boat as him, and even if he did win, Cowell will do the same as he did with Brookstein - Nothing.

Arthur - you can call me Lee as that's my name :)

What's wrong with him - he's entertaining - XFactor is a joke of a show anyway. He's going all the way - watch this space! :)

[Sasha222]

Ya but I think Arhur now has had enough of the bash Arthur and It's not fair and also it really is gone beyond a joke

[v0id]

I can't believe you Sainsbury,you want Wagner to win, I suggest you get in the same boat as him, and even if he did win, Cowell will do the same as he did with Brookstein - Nothing.

Simon Cowell actually likes 'novelty' acts, they're the ones that will make him the most money.

[Gary L]

Katie will go tonight for definate. and I think Cher too.

I predict that Wagner will stay there till the final where he wins and we all eagerly wait for his Xmas single to come out and nobody buys it :)

[Ben B]

It would really make me laugh if Katie and Cher went tonight just to annoy Cheryl

[Gary L]

It would really make me laugh if Katie and Cher went tonight just to annoy Cheryl

I can see that Cheryl holds herself back from being the real person she is deep inside. if they do both go tonight. I wouldn't be surprised if she starts swearing a lot shouting in an incomprehensible manner things about Wagner.
the only thing she has done being herself was farting last week :)

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Lee, let me say this, I have watched all the reality shows on tv, they are entertaining, and they give the oppotunity for someone to fulful there dream.

I believe in 'fairness' on these shows, but you always get some idiot that will spoil it for everyone, l used to spend about £5.00 /£10 per week voting for someone that l like, But l have now stopped, as it is a waste of money, if there are people prepared to splash money to ruin it for SC, what is happening is they are filling his pocket.

Like the childist behaviour at Xmas with rage, to make the crappy record No I over the X Factor record, l believe in Fairness thats all.

[Tinky]

I think I must have had an out of body experience or summit last night, because I actually thought Wagner's first song was fairly good! :erm::erm: I think that all Rebecca and Katie's songs sound the same to me. I don't reckon Cher, she is nothing special, I do like Mary although she can be a bit shouty at times (alright call me old fashioned). Two acts are being voted off tonight, I doubt one will be Wagner. The final will be between One Direction and Matt, and the winner will be, whichever of the two acts sings the best song on the night.

[LSainsbury]

Lee, let me say this, I have watched all the reality shows on tv, they are entertaining, and they give the oppotunity for someone to fulful there dream.

I believe in 'fairness' on these shows, but you always get some idiot that will spoil it for everyone, l used to spend about £5.00 /£10 per week voting for someone that l like, But l have now stopped, as it is a waste of money, if there are people prepared to splash money to ruin it for SC, what is happening is they are filling his pocket.

Like the childist behaviour at Xmas with rage, to make the crappy record No I over the X Factor record, l believe in Fairness thats all.

I've never really watch xFactor - the only ones I watch religiously is The Apprentice, I'm a Celebrity and Coach Trip. Oh and Dragons Den if you can call that a reality show. I've never voted for anybody on IAC.

Well it's happening again this year - have you heard? ;) Anything to keep XFactor off the No#1 spot I say! Including Wagner - if he wins.

[Stuart]

Lee, let me say this, I have watched all the reality shows on tv, they are entertaining, and they give the oppotunity for someone to fulful there dream.

I believe in 'fairness' on these shows, but you always get some idiot that will spoil it for everyone, l used to spend about £5.00 /£10 per week voting for someone that l like, But l have now stopped, as it is a waste of money, if there are people prepared to splash money to ruin it for SC, what is happening is they are filling his pocket.

Like the childist behaviour at Xmas with rage, to make the crappy record No I over the X Factor record, l believe in Fairness thats all.

While I personally don't find these shows entertaining, I can see a lot of people do. These "talent" shows are (IMO) there to perform several purposes. They are there to entertain the viewers. They are there to make money for the producers. In the case of the the theatre based ones, they are also there to generate publicity for the particular theatre production they are auditioning for a part in.

One thing they are not there to do is provide a lasting career for the winner, or any of the contestants. It *may* happen, but as soon as the next series starts, the previous contestants are forgotten.

As a matter of fact, I have a friend who does lighting for West End productions (things like "We Will Rock You"). He hates the talent contest winners. Why? Simple. Because they have won a contest, they come into a production with the attitude that they are the most important thing in the production, and they know everything. Forgetting the fact that they also need good lighting, good sound, good direction and good writing. They also need a *lot* of other things to be good before they look good.

As for the Rage Against The Machine thing. I liked that song and supported it. Why? Because I see the timing of the X factor final (and the inevitable singles and albums released by the finalists) as a cynical attempt by Simon Cowell to cash in on Christmas. If he isn't cashing in, why does the X factor end when it does? He could always shorten it by a couple of weeks, or lengthen it.

[Sasha222]

I think I must have had an out of body experience or summit last night, because I actually thought Wagner's first song was fairly good! :erm::erm: I think that all Rebecca and Katie's songs sound the same to me. I don't reckon Cher, she is nothing special, I do like Mary although she can be a bit shouty at times (alright call me old fashioned). Two acts are being voted off tonight, I doubt one will be Wagner. The final will be between One Direction and Matt, and the winner will be, whichever of the two acts sings the best song on the night.

You must have had more than an out of body experinece with Wagner! :erm::D:D

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Who are the guest acts tonight?

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If Wagner is in the bottom two I will pass out with shock.

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Katie gone and the judges will all vote Wagner apart from Louis Walsh. So good deal all around. Cher next week to go. I'm so so happy. And Matt should win as he is the best singer.

[Gary L]

judges will all vote Wagner apart from Louis Walsh.

How much money do you want to bet? :)

[Sasha222]

Not a betting woman sorry :D;)

[Stuart]

They'll keep Wagner in because he's generating headlines.

[Sasha222]

I admire Louis for actually voting out one of his acts and not doing what Cherly Coyle done. Gary I should have bet with you :D:D:D

[Gary L]

Gary I should have bet with you :D:D:D

You should have. oh well, I'll spend the £400 on some woman or something :):D

[Sasha222]

Ah no you can spend it on me :D:D:D

[Arthurgray50@blu]

common sense has prevailed on good riddance to the idiot, l bet someone will now try and derail the show to the end.

All these threats against Katie, can now relax as she goes along with the idiot, and Simon even said, that people have tried to derail the show, as l have said, no one will beat him.

[Gary L]

Ah no you can spend it on me :D:D:D

No :)

[Sasha222]

Totally agree with you. The judges should learn from this next year and not put through acts that cant sing again.

[Stuart]

They'll keep Wagner in because he's generating headlines.

Well, I was wrong.

[Hugh]

You should have. oh well, I'll spend the £400 on some woman or something :):DDon't forget the puncture kit....;)

[Sasha222]

I should have bet with you as well Stuart

[Gary L]

Don't forget the puncture kit....;)

I don't cycle :D

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I should have bet with you as well Stuart

I would have too if he was betting. he's always wrong about everything ;)

[Sasha222]

Oh right your just the bike :erm::D:D:D:D

[iFrankie]

Bye Bye Wagner.

The people who created the groups like "Wagner To Win" are looking like fools now.

http://comedymeltdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/borat_great_success-450x337.jpg :D

[Sasha222]

It's not before his time that he's gone. I'm still in shock but nice shock :D:D:D

[Arthurgray50@blu]

My prediction for the rest of the series;
Matt o Win
Mary 2nd
One Direction third.

The reason l say that is, those idiots that are after 'SC' will do there best to make sure he doesn't go anywhere near the top spot.

And next year it will be a total revamp to insure that the farce of the last two years and wont allowed again.

[Stuart]

I would have too if he was betting. he's always wrong about everything ;)

I've never been wrong about you.

[Sasha222]

With the way it has gone It's hard to call it this year

[Stuart]

My prediction for the rest of the series;
Matt o Win
Mary 2nd
One Direction third.

The reason l say that is, those idiots that are after 'SC' will do there best to make sure he doesn't go anywhere near the top spot.

And next year it will be a total revamp to insure that the farce of the last two years and wont allowed again.

Apart from Novelty acts (such as Mr Blobby), the music Simon Cowell picks is so bland that it's almost offensive. Why should his acts automatically get near the top?

[Sasha222]

Leona done very well and is a fantastic singer and they will never get someone like that again. All her tours were sold out this year. I got her concert DVD and It's fantastic.

[iFrankie]

I think Matt would do great both here and in american, so would Rebecca i think.

Both of them deserve a contract.

[Sasha222]

Matt is the best of the bad bunch but I think Rebbecca is not as good as the judges are making out she is

[Ben B]

Not happy that Wagner went but Mary deserved to stay, the good thing about the whole voting for Wagner to stay has filtered out some of the crap acts. Cher can't win, she's terrible and hope she goes next week. I want Matt, Mary and One Direction as the final three

[Sasha222]

I really do hope Cher is gone as well next week and Rebbecca with her

[iFrankie]

Justin Bieber was greaaaat tonight, the papers tomorrow will be saying he was miming as per usual with guest stars, it bores me.

[Sasha222]

How do you tell if an artist is miming or singing live? I can never tell the difference?

[iFrankie]

How do you tell if an artist is miming or singing live? I can never tell the difference?

You can tell because when he was jumping around his voice didn't budge lol.

[Sasha222]

Ah right. I was wondering how people could tell and what is auototune?

[Peter_]

Justin Bieber was greaaaat tonight, the papers tomorrow will be saying he was miming as per usual with guest stars, it bores me.
But it was quite obvious that he was miming as his lips were not in sync with the words, why do you think he used such a big microphone strategically placed so that his lips were not fully visible, how many other singers use such massive mikes.;)

[Ben B]

Yeah and when he was being asked questions afterwards, despite wearing a mic he needed to speak into Dermots

[Peter_]

Ah right. I was wondering how people could tell and what is auototune?
That is an electronic voice machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune) that makes poor voices sound better, such as Cheryl Cole's.

A few weeks back Cheryl mimed to that very bad song that got to number one and in the same show Rhianna sang her song, you could hear Rhianna laughing as the food fight started but kept singing without autotune.

[iFrankie]

But it was quite obvious that he was miming as his lips were not in sync with the words, why do you think he used such a big microphone strategically placed so that his lips were not fully visible, how many other singers use such massive mikes.;)

Download Failed (1)

:D:D

[Sasha222]

That is an electronic voice machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune) that makes poor voices sound better, such as Cheryl Cole's.

A few weeks back Cheryl mimed to that very bad song that got to number one and in the same show Rhianna sang her song, you could hear Rhianna laughing as the food fight started but kept singing without autotune.

Ah right now I understand. What food fight? :erm: How did I miss a food fight? :erm::erm: Who won?

[Peter_]

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/6/2/4/6/27966426-27966427-large.jpg

:D:D
At least Steven Tyler can sing but even such a large mike is unable to cover his mouth.:D

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Ah right now I understand. What food fight? :erm: How did I miss a food fight? :erm::erm: Who won?
Remember when Rhianna was on the show about a month ago and the dancers were sat around a table with food and at the end started throwing it around you can see it in this video around the 4.40 minute mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fImmBjCnQk

[iFrankie]

It also annoys me when Katy Perry sang live and everyone went mad because she sounded awful!, i don't think she was that bad.

[Sasha222]

At least Steven Tyler can sing but even such a large mike is unable to cover his mouth.:D

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Remember when Rhianna was on the show about a month ago and the dancers were sat around a table with food and at the end started throwing it around you can see it in this video around the 4.40 minute mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fImmBjCnQk

Was that on Xtra factor? I dont watch that. I just watch the judges when they are questioned by the public and thats it. I never know when to believe you as your a messer :D:D:D

[Peter_]

Was that on Xtra factor? I dont watch that. I just watch the judges when they are questioned by the public and thats it. I never know when to believe you as your a messer :D:D:D
The normal Sunday results show on the 31/10.

[Sasha222]

Ah right I believe you so. I thought you were messing :D:D:D

[Peter_]

Ah right I believe you so. I thought you were messing :D:D:D
That video does tell you where it is from.;)

[Sasha222]

You gave me no video :confused:

[Peter_]

You gave me no video :confused:
It is in post 207.;)

[Ben B]

I have to say though, Nicole Scherzinger was absolutely amazing, I have actually just purchased that song on iTunes

[Sasha222]

Sorry for not believing you but I honestly thought you were winding me up :D:D. I pity the people who had to clean that mess up :erm:

[Pierre]

common sense has prevailed on good riddance to the idiot, l bet someone will now try and derail the show to the end.

All these threats against Katie, can now relax as she goes along with the idiot, and Simon even said, that people have tried to derail the show, as l have said, no one will beat him.

The only person responsible for "trying to derail" the show is Cowell and the other judges themselves.

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Matt is the best of the bad bunch but I think Rebbecca is not as good as the judges are making out she is

She can sing, you can't deny that, but she's not a performer - not yet anyway

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That is an electronic voice machine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune) that makes poor voices sound better, such as Cheryl Cole's.

A few weeks back Cheryl mimed to that very bad song that got to number one and in the same show Rhianna sang her song, you could hear Rhianna laughing as the food fight started but kept singing without autotune.

Funny how a class act like Nicole Scherzinger managed to sing live whilst dancing and being carried about.................................

There's class acts, and there's dross. Biffa Cole comes under the dross category.

[Peter_]

Funny how a class act like Nicole Scherzinger managed to sing live whilst dancing and being carried about.................................

There's class acts, and there's dross. Biffa Cole comes under the dross category.
The ones with real talent can dance and sing.;)

[Sasha222]

It's like a competition tonight to see who has the saddest story rather than a singing competition. Even Simon Cowell got in on the act to say he was sick as well. :rolleyes:

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Its a gurranteed certainty that One Direction will be in the final, but the dark horse is Rebecca, she is brilliant.

I think that Mary and Cher will be in the bottom two tonight, and Matt could be in trouble to.

[Sasha222]

I think it will be between Mary and Cher and I'm so so hoping that Cher is gone. I want Matt to win

[iFrankie]

Just watched, One Direction sang to perfection, Matt sounded like he wasn't even ill, good as always, Rebeccas first song choice was amazing.

Matt to win for me, but its reaaaallly hard to say.

[Arthurgray50@blu]

The results have been totally fixed, in the showdown between Cher and Mary, it all came down to Simon Cowell, and we sweet little Cheryl Cole wisper send Cher through.

It was very touching when she turned her head towards SC and l lip read what she said, ' Pick Cher to go through' Now we know why she is SC favourite - totally fixed, l won't watch it again.

What we have to have, is the producers have to leave it to the public, as this is what the viewers have to do in the first place, it should be like 'STARS IN THERE EYES'

[Sasha222]

I thought that at least Danni would put Mary through. Cant believe that Cher has got through. She will probably be the first out next week anyway and she def wont win it. I'm :shocked: that she is in the final

[Arthurgray50@blu]

I was shocked that Cher went through, she cracks up at the end of each song and tonight she was terrible, l strongly believe that the show will be fixed for SC and One Direction, and even them can't sing in tune.

[Sasha222]

Did you just see the clip that was just shown on Xtra factor of cheryl Cole? That was so so funny. She had a face like a fish :D:D:D

[Stephen]

Arthur I think you imagined the whole thing about Cheryl there.

Have I just upset the foil hat brigade??

Cher was better at her song than Mary. However Simon could have chosen Cher as he knows his act will still have a better chance of winning.

[Sasha222]

I think Mary was way better than Cher and also Cher acts like a spoilt brat and I dont know why the judges backed her to go through to the final. Matt is the best out of the ones gone through to the final.

[Stuart]

It also annoys me when Katy Perry sang live and everyone went mad because she sounded awful!, i don't think she was that bad.

I have to admit, I don't think Katy Perry is a great singer. She looks good, is entertaining to listen to (whether singing or on chat shows, she does seem to be quite funny) and has entertaining songs, but I don't think she has a great voice. As such, I think Katy Perry is a great show woman, but not a great singer. She is far from the only one. One other example I can think of is Madonna.

Leona Lewis is the total opposite, apart from she still looks good (so not the opposite to that). She can sing beautifully, but isn't actually that entertaining when talking in interviews.

Is the show fixed? I think it is. I've suspected that for a long time. Think about it. Simon Cowell owns the rights. Simon Cowell seems to favour marketing singers to the 16 to 25 market. Apart from the odd older singer (SuBo), he doesn't seem interested in the older people.

Simon Cowell wants the winner to have the Christmas No. 1 single. This is a lot less likely to happen with an older singer.

Having said, he also seems to favour young boy singers, or groups.

[Sasha222]

Who is Katy Parry? :erm:

[Stuart]

http://www.katyperry.com/

Look at the above for some photos, video and songs.

I think her first single is the most recognisable, it's called "I kissed a girl (and I liked it)".

She is also famous for (now) being Mrs Russell Brand.

And regarding my comments above, don't get me wrong, I don't actually think Katy Perry is bad singer. I just think she's good rather than great.

[Sasha222]

Thanks for the link Stewart. Ya shounds good and the song was catchy. But my favorite is Leona Lewis. She is the best thing to come out of X Factor and they will never again get talent like her. I dont care if she gives good or bad interviews as long she keeps singing the way she sings I'm happy ;):D

[Arthurgray50@blu]

Sorry Stephen, but you must be living on a different planet, if you think that Cher is a better singer than Mary, Cher is a young girl who will crack under the strain of the music business.

She shown this in recent weeks, with the croc tears etc, Mary sung much better than Cher, and if you have read the media today, not just in one paper, but many.

It was agreed that Cher will sing a duet with Cheryl, and this was arranged before the show, and the voting was changed also,it should have gone done to the phone vote, rules cannot be changed during the show.

I believe, as l have said before there has to be fairness in shows like this, l think that when this show is over, most of the acts, will be forgotten. but a couple of people will go far, Wagner is a hit, like Jedward, where are the rest, no where.

I don't think Mary would have won, my winner will be One Driection,SC will arrange that, followed by Matt, but i wouldn't surprise me if Rebecca won, as she is brilliant.

[Sasha222]

I cant see what the judges see in her as a good artist because all I have seen her do is put a bad into a song and that was it. She is also a very rude little madam and was out of order the way she spoke to Danni the othre night. Pity who ever gets to manage her after the X factor as they wont have an easy time with her thats for sure.

I was surprised at the sing of last night as the any act going through to the final was always down to the public vote. Oh well she wont win anyway and will be long forgotton in a couple of months

[MovedGoalPosts]

Why all the outcry and fuss. Mary and Cher were in the bottom two of the public vote. Tehy have both been in the bottom two before. Therefore whoever was voted through doesn't stand a chance of winning as clearly neither have a strong public backing.

[Sasha222]

The outcry and fuss is not because they were in the bottom two. It's the first time that they done a sing of in the semi final. It's always down to the public who sends the person home with the lowest votes. Nobody knew when they were voting that there was going to be a sing of and think that the judges knew that Cher might have got the lowest votes so then in the last minute decided on the sing of

[iFrankie]

OOOOOH how i loved Glee on the x factor, by far the best guest stars.

[Sasha222]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTcGVtJZgc0 This is brill Leona singing with the guy from Glee

[Boaz]

I feel that Matt is the best artist they have for this series and hope he goes all out to win it. Rebecca second in line. Not a great fan of her voice, it goes through me and One Direction to come third.

Mary has a good voice but not a great voice. Cher is great at rap but not a great singer. I think Mary deserved to go through more than Cher. I was surprised that Danni choose Cher over Mary. I thought Danni wasn't keen on Cher from her comments over the past few weeks. Makes me feel that something was said about that so it didn't go to a public vote! Totally unaceptable to have gone to a sing off imo.

[Peter_]

On Saturday Cher Lloyd attempted to sing Britney Spears song "Everytime" if you would like to hear it sung properly just click the link and you might even recognise it unlike Saturday's poor rendition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRHAXSRcSH0

[Sasha222]

On Saturday Cher Lloyd attempted to sing Britney Spears song "Everytime" if you would like to hear it sung properly just click the link and you might even recognise it unlike Saturday's poor rendition.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRHAXSRcSH0

The song is really lovely. Britney must be so proud of her trying to sing her song........not. She murdered it.

[iFrankie]

As a HUGE Britney fan i actually thought Cher sang it better..... :D

[Peter_]

As a HUGE Britney fan i actually thought Cher sang it better..... :D
It was unrecognisable as the same song and only realised what song it was because of my daughter, as long as she comes 4th no harm done as she will fail for the Christmas number one.:erm:

[Tinky]

I missed Saturday/Sunday's shows. What is the point in getting people to phone in their votes if the judges (who already have a vested interested) get the final say? If I had voted I wouldn't be very happy! :mad: It's a toss up who is going to win, I reckon it's all up to whoever gives the best performance on the night, given that their nerves are already jangling.:erm:

[Sasha222]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/s103/the-x-factor/news/a292077/ofcom-investigates-x-factor-over-guest-acts.html

More trouble for X Factor :erm:

[Boaz]

How many acts go out on this Saturdays show, does anybody know?

[Sasha222]

This week is the final so it will be placed 4th 3rd 2nd and the winner. I would love if Matt won.

[iFrankie]

Gonna miss it tomorrow!! i just HOPE no one tells me who wins, im gonna have to sky+ it haha.

[Ben B]

Gonna miss it tomorrow!! i just HOPE no one tells me who wins, im gonna have to sky+ it haha.
They're splitting it up over two nights so I think one act will go tomorrow and then there will be the final three on Sunday

[Sasha222]

Who are you hoping will win?