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hansi
24-12-2009, 07:17
Could you settle an argument (discussion;)) please. My friend bought a HD (not HD Ready) TV with basic Freeview and mantains that he can view HD channels on it. I say that he needs a HD feed (Virgin V+ or Sky HD) to receive HD channels. Who is right?

cimt
24-12-2009, 07:31
I'm pretty sure you're right. I remember that the box enables the HD channels if you're using an HDMI lead?

carmad
24-12-2009, 08:57
Unless the TV is comes with Freesat already installed and connected you will definitely require a HD decoder box from Freesat, Virgin+ or Sky HD. As the picture on a Plasma or LCD is much cleaner to that on the older CRT TV's it will give you the impression that it is in HD.

Stuart
24-12-2009, 09:06
As this thread is not about the V+, I have moved it.


Also if the set is not HD Ready, he may not be able to get HD transmissions on it regardless of the STB plugged into it.

zing_deleted
24-12-2009, 09:23
HDMI can convert to component and the op does say HD tv ( not ready) which would lead you to assume its HD compatible meaning it has component input.

spiderplant
24-12-2009, 10:09
Didn't realise anyone still sold HDTVs that aren't HD Ready. What make/model is it?

hansi
24-12-2009, 10:52
It is 1080HD It's a Samsung, don't know the model.

Paul K
24-12-2009, 13:29
Even HD tvs with built in freeview will not get the HD channels that go to freeview soon without a Freeview HD box as they need a certain type of freeview decoder to get the channels. Standard freeview boxes will not be able to view the free HD channels. Cue a large number of people getting annoyed about buying HD TVs with freeview built in only to find they have to go out and buy an add on :(

Flyboy
24-12-2009, 13:54
The difference between Full HD and HD ready is the resolution and (I believe) screen speed. I think the OP is referring to the fact that the set is not just HD Ready, but Full HD, as in 1080p.

nodrogd
24-12-2009, 15:24
If it is a modern set it will have one of two logos present either on the set or in the manual. A full explanation of the difference between 'HD Ready' and 'Full HD' can be found here (http://www.sony.ie/article/id/1222168536828). Unless the set has Freesat built in, the only other way to display HD material is via the HDMI inputs.

Rockabilly Spike
24-12-2009, 18:22
ok does your friend have a sky HD box? a Virgin HD box?
a Satellite Dish hooked up to a Freesat Box?

if the answer is no to any of the above, they arent watching any HD channels.

if they have a PS3 or blu ray, they could be watching Hi def movies

popper
24-12-2009, 20:04
Could you settle an argument (discussion;)) please. My friend bought a HD (not HD Ready) TV with basic Freeview and mantains that he can view HD channels on it. I say that he needs a HD feed (Virgin V+ or Sky HD) to receive HD channels. Who is right?

its VERY SIMPLE, Your right if the discussion is that your friend says he is watching UK FreeView and its Actually in High def...because its an HD TV.

it's Not High Def for the Very simple reason there are No High Def Freeview broadcast DVB-T2 tuners in Anything for Consumer sale today, be it internal to the HDTV or an external freeview STB come to that...

technically, there are mainstream High Def Freeview DVB-T2 terrestial AVC/H.264 Broadcasts right now, since 2 dec 2009, from the NW Greater manchester winterhill and the london transmitters, But there are NO OEM DVB-T2 tuners in anything consumer related right now that are Needed to actually tune into these new HD terrestial broadcasts.

DVB-T2 tuners are certainly Not in the HDTVs or STBs today, they Only have old DVB-T tuners.

Your friend and anyone else with the misconception of HDTV means HD FreeView terrestial broadcasts Needs to understand, the Uk Only broadcast old SD Mpeg2 transport streams over DVB-T, and the Old DVB-T tunner thats in Any HDTV thats advertised as freeview capable Today, So You Can NOT view true HD over terrestial TV any time soon, and Not without another bit of kit to plug into it later and feed it a true HD content.

upscaled digital SD is NOT true HD, and for that right now your Only choice is DVB-S(2) freesat feed and STB or internal DVB-S HDTV sat tunners fitted inside your HDTV.

OC if you want to feed some forms (AVC/H.264)of true HD video into some of these HDTV's Directly this christmas, some of them such as Sony Bravia 5 series or some Samsung come with DLNA + RJ45 capabilitys as standard, and so you could stream feed your PC HD content directly to them with a copy of PS3Media Server running on a PC and an ethernet RJ45 cable connected to your LAN and PC.
http://ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2099&sid=bb56fa6734e94cda647c1be0c6ff852a

hansi
25-12-2009, 07:05
The difference between Full HD and HD ready is the resolution and (I believe) screen speed. I think the OP is referring to the fact that the set is not just HD Ready, but Full HD, as in 1080p.

That's correct.

---------- Post added at 07:05 ---------- Previous post was at 07:04 ----------

ok does your friend have a sky HD box? a Virgin HD box?
a Satellite Dish hooked up to a Freesat Box?

if the answer is no to any of the above, they arent watching any HD channels.

if they have a PS3 or blu ray, they could be watching Hi def movies

No, no and no. Thank you.:)