Random question about Virgin's equipment and BT

[dogsiwoo]

Basically talking to a friend (whose Dad is a BT Engineer) about how generally turd the ISP's of this country are (came to a conclusion that they are robbing *coughs* and turd in general :D )

However she makes a point that Virgin Media's services go through equipment that at the end of the line is owned by BT (not modems etc, underground cabling, boxes etc - all the back-end gubbins).

Is this true?

[Kymmy]

For thier national internet service not on an LLU probably YES, but for cable and VM to VM phone calls then NO

[dogsiwoo]

For thier national internet service not on an LLU probably YES, but for cable and VM to VM phone calls then NO

I thought the same - is there any proof of this online at all? (Ammo ;))

[*sloman*]

VM's LLU will live in the BT exchange the cable network does not

Diagram of cable network below:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/09/35.png

[bonzoe]

She may mean international links to the USA etc (via Goonhilly?)

[KingDaveRa]

International links to the US would appear to be a mixture of NTT, Cable and Wireless, and Global Crossing, all of whom are (afaik) top-tier, so have their own networks. So no BT there either!

[Ignitionnet]

She may mean international links to the USA etc (via Goonhilly?)

BT don't own the transatlantic fibre either.

[dogsiwoo]

She may mean international links to the USA etc (via Goonhilly?)

Nope, she's adamant that the backend stuff is all BT owned...

[Phil-ntl]

Nope, she's adamant that the backend stuff is all BT owned...

Well Judging by the knowledgable answers given by the guys here, adamant or not, I'd say she's wrong :p:

[Sir John Luke]

...or she simply doesn't understand the difference between Virgin National (ADSL) and Virgin Cable.