View Full Version : Caller Display "No Longer Available" after port
sparky621
27-08-2009, 17:03
On 28th July I had a VM phone line installed with the intention of swapping from BT, however, the sales dep't did not bother requesting the port so I was given a temporary VM number. Whilst on that number I added Caller Display which I have been billed for up to 25th Aug and which has been working perfectly up until yesterday when the BT number was finally ported accross. Now caller display doesn't work and after 1 1/2 hours on the phone I have been told I can't have it in my area even though I had already had it on the temporary number:confused:
At no point was I informed that the caller display feature would suddenly become unavailable in the area. In fact I was told by the original sales team that I could have all the features that I had on my BT line. I need caller display to screen out unwanted calls. I now wish I had stayed with BT:mad:
By the way the area on my bill is 20
Please HELP!!!!!
webcrawler2050
27-08-2009, 17:06
On 28th July I had a VM phone line installed with the intention of swapping from BT, however, the sales dep't did not bother requesting the port so I was given a temporary VM number. Whilst on that number I added Caller Display which I have been billed for up to 25th Aug and which has been working perfectly up until yesterday when the BT number was finally ported accross. Now caller display doesn't work and after 1 1/2 hours on the phone I have been told I can't have it in my area even though I had already had it on the temporary number:confused:
At no point was I informed that the caller display feature would suddenly become unavailable in the area. In fact I was told by the original sales team that I could have all the features that I had on my BT line. I need caller display to screen out unwanted calls. I now wish I had stayed with BT:mad:
By the way the area on my bill is 20
Please HELP!!!!!
Sounds like random BS - shouldn;t be a problem - give CS a call they will be able to sort it out for you..
sparky621
27-08-2009, 17:17
Sounds like random BS - shouldn;t be a problem - give CS a call they will be able to sort it out for you..
Tried CS, don't think thay understand English!!!
Tried to baffle me with tech jargon until I told them I have a degree in Electronic Engineering. They just insist it cannot be done because the exchange has been upgraded! UPGRADED:confused: Over Night:confused:
All that they've done is taken my temporary VM number and replaced it with my old BT number for goodness sake:(
webcrawler2050
27-08-2009, 17:39
Tried CS, don't think thay understand English!!!
Tried to baffle me with tech jargon until I told them I have a degree in Electronic Engineering. They just insist it cannot be done because the exchange has been upgraded! UPGRADED:confused: Over Night:confused:
All that they've done is taken my temporary VM number and replaced it with my old BT number for goodness sake:(
I think we need a VM Tech to confirm?
Sparky, PM me the number in question. If you need confirmation who I am, I can send you an email from my work address.
I'll take a look for you.
papasmurf
28-08-2009, 13:48
It never ceases to amaze me the helpfulness of the VM staff who frequent this forum. Keep up the good work lads and lasses :clap:
FairyFairy
28-08-2009, 14:03
It never ceases to amaze me the helpfulness of the VM staff who frequent this forum. Keep up the good work lads and lasses :clap:
Hear hear :handshake
Sooty Baxter
28-08-2009, 21:07
We are in area ref: 020 too and despite being told we could have caller display, just as we used to have with BT, it never has worked on the Virgin line and after lots of calls to CS, including a couple of lucky ones to an English call centre, we have established that it isn't available on this exchange. In retrospect we would have thought twice before switching. We are mostly happy with the TV (particularly the i-player) and Internet service - so it's 'swings and roundabouts'.
sparky621
29-08-2009, 08:17
We are in area ref: 020 too and despite being told we could have caller display, just as we used to have with BT, it never has worked on the Virgin line and after lots of calls to CS, including a couple of lucky ones to an English call centre, we have established that it isn't available on this exchange. In retrospect we would have thought twice before switching. We are mostly happy with the TV (particularly the i-player) and Internet service - so it's 'swings and roundabouts'.
Strange thing is I haven't changed area and the line is physically the same just the number changed. I had caller display one day and not the next.
I would also like to second the thanks given to the VM staff on this forum. They go above and beyond which is more than can be said about some of their (off shore) co-workers! Thanks:clap::clap:
Digital Fanatic
31-08-2009, 14:35
did you get this sorted? :)
AndyCalling
02-09-2009, 00:20
Hiya. I am also in area ref. 20 (blue), had my number ported from BT and have been told the same by the Indian experts, that Caller Display is not available to me. It is interesting that the OP has had Caller Display working in area 20 (all be it for only a short while).
I would love Caller Display, especially as I used to text a lot with BT and I could get back to spending that money with Virgin if they gave me Caller Display.
Has there been any progress with this one? It's the only real downer with Virgin compared to my previous BT phone/Virgin.net ADSL combo.
Can you help a new cable customer, Virgin Media gurus? :)~
Sparky, drop me an email tomorrow on my work address (if you still have it) and I shall chase this.
sparky621
04-09-2009, 15:42
Hi all,sorry about going quiet for a while,pesky thing called work!
Unfortunately I still don't have caller display and just to rub salt in the wounds I've just received my final BT bill. Ahh BT, who offer caller display to EVERYONE for FREE.
Of course caller display doesn't grab headlines like 50Meg broadband does it.
Andycalling, I hope you were tongue-in-cheek giving the Indian call centre automatons the title "expert".The only thing they are expert in is lying and giving out total BS.You come off the phone and may as well have been :banghead:
MrMoo, I'll email you asap, thats when I'm on the PC the email is now sitting on!
Thanks all,
Sparky
AndyCalling
04-09-2009, 20:37
Yes, that has been my experience too (I had an install issue made far worse by the Indian experts, the comment from the Virgin engineer was that it was someone who didn't want to do their job).
Now don't get me wrong, I know many people with an Indian background and work with them too. They are as varied in attitude as anyone else (except for a tendancy in some towards anti-Bangladeshi nonsense which I have no time for) and I have no particular racial issue here or anywhere else.
I do think that Virgin need to review their recruiting and training policy on their Indian site though. They seem to be picking up some right dregs there and no mistake.
I will say that whenever I've talked to someone on the UK site they have been excellent, as have the engineers. Perhaps the Indian site need to be visited by a few of the UK Virgin chaps to get some training done. Particularly in the HR department as they can't recruit at the Indian site for toffee.
I like this Virgin cable internet. That is why I have a Virgin phone. In general the phone is OK, except for the lack of Caller ID (possibly?) and the call charges which are a bit greedy. I think Virgin would attract far more custom from BT and even Sly if their phone lines could compete. As it is, it is only the Internet and TV freaks who will put up with the phone to get the rest. Even then, many of the TV freaks will be considering Sly.
FYI, I don't have Virgin TV (Freeview does me fine, no time for any more than that), I have 20meg internet (at a full and fast rate, no slowness) and the weekends style phone package.
I'm on the Eastleigh digital network (not the Southampton analogue network) in area 20 Blue. The hardware must be quite new because 50meg internet is available if I wanted it.
Any chance of this Caller Display being available do you think, Sparky? Moo?
nutellajunkie
06-09-2009, 20:23
amazes me how they do charge for a plip of information to be sent to your phone with someone's digits.
prince_zeepress
06-09-2009, 20:42
If you really want caller display why not switch to a VoIP phone service. They normally throw in caller display and other features as part of their standard package, as well as having call charges significantly less than Virgin.
AndyCalling
06-09-2009, 21:44
If you really want caller display why not switch to a VoIP phone service. They normally throw in caller display and other features as part of their standard package, as well as having call charges significantly less than Virgin.
As I have a 20meg internet service from Virgin, I have traffic management. A VOIP service would eat in to that, it's not worth the trade off. Good idea for unmanaged 50meg lines, but I need a proper fixed phone line solution.
Any chance? That's the question I'm asking. The OP in this thread gives me hope as he is in area code 20 as I am, and he has seen CLID work on his phone for a while, even if Virgin Media seem unsure about the availability now. I'm hopeing the outcome of all this is CLID for me and the other area code 20ers as well.
prince_zeepress
08-09-2009, 16:28
Depends on your usage.
According to my VoIP provider (Sipgate) a 1 hour call uses 70-80 Mb of bandwidth. So if you were on the 'phone continuously for the full 5 hours of the evening management period you would use 28% of your upstream quota & 11% of your downstream.
I've been using VoIP on my 10M connection for a couple of years now, and not found this a problem.
jamesmhunt
20-10-2009, 11:50
Did either of you (sparky621 or AndyCalling) make any progress with this?
I too am pretty hacked off about this lack of caller display as is was (and is still) listed as available under 'Additional Calling Features' when you add the phone service to your basket on the VM website. "You can order these features once your service has been installed by calling 150 from your Virgin Media phone" - yeah right...
:mad:
This is one of the reasons we got a DECT/VOIP phone. On our VOIP account we get to choose our number and caller ID is included free. The Virgin number doesn't get used much now.
About 5 years ago, after porting my bt number to vm, I went round this loop with Vm cs being told again and again that cli was not available on my exchange. As an ex bt/mercury engineer I couldn't fathom why vm would say this since as a new operator I knew all their exchanges were capable of cli.
In the end I contacted an old colleague who worked for them and he enabled the cli directly on the exchange.
5 years later I got a letter from vm stating that there had been an administrative error and I should have been paying a monthly fee for cli and it was to be disabled.
Upon trying to get it acivated again of course vm cs once again said it wasn't available and as my friend no longer worked for them I couldn't get it reactivated.
Very annoying
Sooty Baxter
30-10-2009, 18:46
That's completely bizarre! Are there any VM techs out there who could comment? Come to think of it, where [B]are[B]the VM exchanges? I know where my local BT one is in Brighton but not the VM...
weesteev
03-11-2009, 08:58
Virgins Telephone exchange equipment is in the same site as their headend gear for broadband and CATV in most instances. You may find that you dont have one in your area but are fed from quite a distance away. The telephone architecture is very different to what BT provide.
As for the caller ID issues, send me your postcode and I will confirm whether you can get caller ID or not.
Thanks
Stephen
jamesmhunt
03-11-2009, 16:32
as for the caller id issues, send me your postcode and i will confirm whether you can get caller id or not.
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injuneer
03-11-2009, 19:06
That's completely bizarre! Are there any VM techs out there who could comment? Come to think of it, where [B]are[B]the VM exchanges? I know where my local BT one is in Brighton but not the VM...
The VM exchange for the Brighton area is in Portslade. In ex-Nynex areas the issue is with some of the street multiplexers not having the capability. Some of the original Nokia muxes can't do it. (although they're all obsolete now & probably reaching the end of their projected operational life as are the exchanges!). They're banking on VOIP services to replace it all (as are BT).
Sooty Baxter
03-11-2009, 21:20
Hi Stephen
We are BN1 6EJ could you check for us?
Thanks
chrispy2000
25-11-2009, 18:41
This has been an on-going thing for years with Virgin, NTL and Cable & Wireless. There have been many threads about it.
There don't seem to be any sence in it. I live in one part of Peterborough and can't get it (though I was promised it in 6 months many years ago), but someone in a different area not 5 miles away can. And both of us have the same prefix code.
So work that out. :banghead:
AlabasterLyn
17-12-2009, 09:54
Unfortunately I still don't have caller display and just to rub salt in the wounds I've just received my final BT bill. Ahh BT, who offer caller display to EVERYONE for FREE.
Of course caller display doesn't grab headlines like 50Meg broadband does it.
I've just been on the BT site as I am another VM customer who is so fed up of not being able to have Caller ID that I am contemplating going over to BT, at least for my phone. However it seems to say on the BT site that you pay £2.50 a month for Caller ID, was that an offer you had that has now finished :confused:
As I intend to keep all my other VM services, including the TV package does it mean I can still have free phone rental on my existing VM line but maybe change the number so that my BT line would get my current number :confused:
Caller Display will be available to all VM customers by next year.
In fact in some areas where it was not previously avaliable, it now is.
So I would phone Virgin back and double check you can't get it.
AlabasterLyn
17-12-2009, 10:45
Caller Display will be available to all VM customers by next year.
In fact in some areas where it was not previously avaliable, it now is.
So I would phone Virgin back and double check you can't get it.
Well apparently that isn't the case. I have just been on to CS and they did say some areas that had previously not had Caller ID now have it, but she cannot say for sure if the area I am in, which is an ex ntl/cable&wireless/jones cable will ever get it.
She then proceeded to offer me a free TV upgrade from L to XL and a £5 a month saving on my bill. After putting me on hold she came back to tell me it would actually cost me an extra £5 a month but I could have it for free for 2mths and then phone after that to cancel it. I can't say I was at all impressed as it's obviously just a ploy to get customers to get extra channels and then want to either keep them or to forget to phone them back to cancel. Just makes me more inclined to move away completely from VM :mad:
Customer Services agents have a tool which allows them to see where it is now, but not where it might be. However as I said all areas WILL have it by next year
As for the TV upgrade thing, that agent was doing their job right. The current two months free is supposed to be a reward for those customers wanting to upgrade to XL, not used as a free trial.
AlabasterLyn
17-12-2009, 11:03
Customer Services agents have a tool which allows them to see where it is now, but not where it might be. However as I said all areas WILL have it by next year
As for the TV upgrade thing, that agent was doing their job right. The current two months free is supposed to be a reward for those customers wanting to upgrade to XL, not used as a free trial.
She may well have been doing her job but she gave me the impression the upgrade was a permanent free upgrade and apologised when she came back to me that she had made a mistake, but then wasn't happy when I said I didn't want a temporary upgrade.
My only concern is Caller ID and I'm so fed up of not having it when everyone else seems to :(
I've just been on the BT site as I am another VM customer who is so fed up of not being able to have Caller ID that I am contemplating going over to BT, at least for my phone. However it seems to say on the BT site that you pay £2.50 a month for Caller ID, was that an offer you had that has now finished :confused:
Caller ID from BT is free if you subscribe to their Privacy at Home option (also free) http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=25504
Select "Home phone security features", then "BT privacy at home". This also involves subscribing to the Telephone Preference Service.
AlabasterLyn
17-12-2009, 12:31
Caller ID from BT is free if you subscribe to their Privacy at Home option (also free) http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProducts/displayTopic.do?topicId=25504
Select "Home phone security features", then "BT privacy at home". This also involves subscribing to the Telephone Preference Service.
Thanks for that :)
Caller Display will be available to all VM customers by next year.
In fact in some areas where it was not previously avaliable, it now is.
So I would phone Virgin back and double check you can't get it.
Hi Ben
Do you know if Derby is enabled yet ? wouldn't it be easier to post a list of recently enabled exchanges rather than advise everyone to ring up and ask!
Cheers
Guy
It's not down to the area but the actual Telephone Switch you are on. So there is nothing I could post that would make sense to anyone outside VM.
Called CS and they say that the DB1 switch is not enabled yet - Ben - when you say "all will be enabled by next year" do you mean by the end of the year as in Dec 2010?
Thx
Digital Fanatic
26-12-2009, 23:24
Called CS and they say that the DB1 switch is not enabled yet - Ben - when you say "all will be enabled by next year" do you mean by the end of the year as in Dec 2010?
Thx
I'd of thought it was more likely during 2010... cutting it fine to get those areas upgraded before the end of this year :)
AndyCalling
05-01-2010, 18:09
I gave up on this one in disgust and have only just come back to look at this thread again (caught in snow on the bus...). So I will definately be getting CLID soon? Ace! I'll be calling Virgin monthly until they come through. Big smiles all round!
AlabasterLyn
07-01-2010, 13:40
I gave up on this one in disgust and have only just come back to look at this thread again (caught in snow on the bus...). So I will definately be getting CLID soon? Ace! I'll be calling Virgin monthly until they come through. Big smiles all round!
Me too, maybe we should all pester them constantly in the hope that they realise how seriously we all want this feature ;)
nigelmclelland
12-01-2010, 11:20
Caller display IS now availible on Virginmedia on the Wirral, Cable, Ex-NTL I had caller ID enabled 2 days ago and it works fine. £20.00 a month. Although they did say for ages it was not availible in my area. Maybe it's just been enabled ??
chrispy2000
12-01-2010, 12:12
I hope you mean £2.00 a month :)
nigelmclelland
12-01-2010, 22:54
Hi Chrispy2000,
My mistake I should have wrote, £2.00 per month ;-}
sparky621
12-01-2010, 23:49
Caller display IS now availible on Virginmedia on the Wirral, Cable, Ex-NTL I had caller ID enabled 2 days ago and it works fine. £20.00 a month. Although they did say for ages it was not availible in my area. Maybe it's just been enabled ??
Thats interesting as thats where I am. I'll have to give CS a call tomorrow.
Just hope they don't continue with the excuse that its an Ex BT number and therefore can't have caller display :rolleyes:
nigelmclelland
13-01-2010, 08:40
Ime on an ex-BT number.
It's not down to the area but the actual Telephone Switch you are on. So there is nothing I could post that would make sense to anyone outside VM.
Are you saying here that the switches are totally non geographic ? Do the switches from the original franchises no longer serve only their original area? It just seems to be a waste of my time and expensive CS time to have everyone ringing every month to check!
Thanks
No of course the switches are geographic, but there can be several switches for a geographic area.
Just because one swtich in a geographic area may now be enabled for Caller Display, doesn't mean the others are.
Also, people living in next door streets may be connected to different switches.
If they are geographic a list of switches modified would still give an indication as to whether it was worth ringing CS to clarify - I am only trying to save CSR time here ! afterall it's free to call so I could waste their time every week! ;)
sparky621
13-01-2010, 22:35
Ime on an ex-BT number.
Even better:)
I didn't get time to call them today but will definitely call asap. We really miss caller display, not so much to filter calls, but to log missed calls. Plus text was really handy at times.
nigelmclelland
14-01-2010, 09:13
Even better:)
I didn't get time to call them today but will definitely call asap. We really miss caller display, not so much to filter calls, but to log missed calls. Plus text was really handy at times.
Let us know how you get on then Sparky, I am not sure about asking for the texting as well, That might be asking a lot at this stage.
Customers with Bill Area references 01-18 (ex-TW) can Text. Customers with Bill Area References 20-31 (ex-ntl) can't. There are no plans to change this at present, sorry
nigelmclelland
14-01-2010, 11:48
Customers with Bill Area references 01-18 (ex-TW) can Text. Customers with Bill Area References 20-31 (ex-ntl) can't. There are no plans to change this at present, sorry
Thats not too bad, most of us have mobiles these days, however the more important issue is the caller ID.
AlabasterLyn
14-01-2010, 11:54
My reference area is 22. I just phoned CS and was told that Caller ID is now available in Watford, Herts. I won't be convinced until I see it working. Will be brilliant if it does work ;)
nigelmclelland
14-01-2010, 12:03
My reference area is 22. I just phoned CS and was told that Caller ID is now available in Watford, Herts. I won't be convinced until I see it working. Will be brilliant if it does work ;)
Brilliant !! I think Caller ID is enabled everywhere ! my area code is 20 by the way.
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Brilliant !! I think Caller ID is enabled everywhere ! my area code is 20 by the way.
By the way my caller ID was on within the hour of ordering it, But it may take up to 24hrs. Let us know if it works.
AlabasterLyn
14-01-2010, 13:41
Well it's actually working, I can't believe I can be so happy over something so trivial really :rolleyes:
nigelmclelland
14-01-2010, 13:56
Well it's actually working, I can't believe I can be so happy over something so trivial really :rolleyes:
Good stuff - Lets get more posts like this, AND an area code list if pos to save time for CSR ?
AndyCalling
14-01-2010, 19:33
I have just called VM from my 02380 Southampton number (Eastleigh digital network, not Southampton analogue network) and got a UK operator who has enabled CLID on my line for £2.00 per month. Last time I tried (summer, when my VM connection was installed) they said it wasn't available. Ace!
I do have to wait 24 hours yet before it kicks in I was told. I'll post to confirm it's working when I get to test it.
sparky621
15-01-2010, 00:07
Customers with Bill Area references 01-18 (ex-TW) can Text. Customers with Bill Area References 20-31 (ex-ntl) can't. There are no plans to change this at present, sorry
To be honest texting was just a "nice to have".
As for no plans, well a few months ago there were "no plans" to roll out caller display so I live in hope as they say;)
Will prob call CS at the weekend.
Sparky
nigelmclelland
15-01-2010, 09:32
Judging from the above posts it seems as if the spotlight here is on Customers with Bill Area References 20-31 (ex-ntl) being able to get caller display.
It's actually on ex-C&W customers ie. bill areas 20-22. all original ntl and all ex-telewest customers can get Caller Display already
nigelmclelland
15-01-2010, 10:15
It's actually on ex-C&W customers ie. bill areas 20-22. all original ntl and all ex-telewest customers can get Caller Display already
Hi Ben, Can you please verify that for us please, my area code is 20, and I have just been able to get caller ID for the 1st time so has "AlabasterLyn" (above) in area 22. Was the original problem that customers in areas 20-22 could not get Caller ID and everyone else could?
Or do you mean caller display IS now "Available" in areas 20-22 ?
I thought I was ex-NTL ?
Due to some historical issues, the parts of the ex-ntl network that used to be Cable and Wireless before that didn't enable Caller Display.
These parts of the company have ended up as being bill areas 20-22. It's these areas that are now having it enabled
All other areas either ex-ntl or ex-tw did have caller display
nigelmclelland
15-01-2010, 11:21
Thanks Ben,
I hope Virginmedia will issue a statement or publish something on thier website to this effect soon so we all can rest. Lets keep our fingers crossed.
Still post here if you have any joy getting caller display, just to let others know. Partcularly in areas 20-22.
Still not available in Derby - switch DB1 area 20 :(
nigelmclelland
15-01-2010, 17:45
Still not available in Derby - switch DB1 area 20 :(
They may have not got that far, I dont think they have finished the transition yet, Worth giving 150 a call every now and then. Keep us posted?
AndyCalling
15-01-2010, 20:25
I have just called VM from my 02380 Southampton number (Eastleigh digital network, not Southampton analogue network) and got a UK operator who has enabled CLID on my line for £2.00 per month. Last time I tried (summer, when my VM connection was installed) they said it wasn't available. Ace!
I do have to wait 24 hours yet before it kicks in I was told. I'll post to confirm it's working when I get to test it.
Well, I tried it and it didn't work. I called tech support and a nice Indian chap checked and told me that CLID is not available on my line, so he's cancelled it and refunded the £2.00.
So much for expecting a UK advisor to do this right. The Indian side scores the customer service points today.
The lesson is, ask them to check that CLID is available twice before they get all keen and try to take your money. Also, I am in area 20 and it's not on here yet.
nigelmclelland
15-01-2010, 22:13
All as I can say is that everyone keeps trying, because Virgin are roumoured to be working on this as stated above.
Hi Chrispy2000,
My mistake I should have wrote, £2.00 per month ;-}
Ouch, that's a bit too much for this service, especially as BT give it away for free.
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Seeing as most of us were told that we would be able to have the same services that we enjoyed with BT, when we came over to VM, does anybody know whose buttons need to be pressed to get this or free?
canceling with this pack of liars usually helps.
AlabasterLyn
17-01-2010, 15:15
I don't understand why VM aren't letting people know that Caller ID is now enabled in areas where previously it wasn't. I've been telling everyone I know in my area who has VM that it's now enabled here and they've all taken up the service. Considering the junk mail VM often send out, why can't they keep their customers up to date :confused:
tigglepig
17-01-2010, 16:30
Due to some historical issues, the parts of the ex-ntl network that used to be Cable and Wireless before that didn't enable Caller Display.
These parts of the company have ended up as being bill areas 20-22. It's these areas that are now having it enabled
All other areas either ex-ntl or ex-tw did have caller display
I'm confused (which isn't that tricky!), are you saying that anyone in an area other than 20-22 should already have had caller display available? I'm in area 31 and have just been told that it's not available here.
sparky621
18-01-2010, 13:49
I'm confused (which isn't that tricky!), are you saying that anyone in an area other than 20-22 should already have had caller display available? I'm in area 31 and have just been told that it's not available here.
I'm confused because I'm in area 20 but it appears to be a completely different area 20 to Guy T who says he's in Derby, I'm in Cheshire/Wirral! I assume from this that the "Areas" have no geographic meaning to them?
By the way I called CS at the weekend and was told that yes Caller Display was available in my "Area 20" just not on my switch...aaaaargh! :mad:
nigelmclelland
18-01-2010, 16:20
My telephone switch is "WL1" - Area 20.
nigelmclelland
19-01-2010, 11:44
I'm confused because I'm in area 20 but it appears to be a completely different area 20 to Guy T who says he's in Derby, I'm in Cheshire/Wirral! I assume from this that the "Areas" have no geographic meaning to them?
By the way I called CS at the weekend and was told that yes Caller Display was available in my "Area 20" just not on my switch...aaaaargh! :mad:
Sparky, I am on the Wirral, Phone up and ask what switch you are on. As I have caller display and I am on telephone switch WL1.
sparky621
19-01-2010, 12:16
I'm sure I'm also on WL1, I'll have to double check when I get home from work. If I am on the same switch then the CS info must be out of date or something. Maybe BenMcr can shed a bit of light :confused:
nigelmclelland
19-01-2010, 12:32
I'm sure I'm also on WL1, I'll have to double check when I get home from work. If I am on the same switch then the CS info must be out of date or something. Maybe BenMcr can shed a bit of light :confused:
Ok sparks, keep us informed.
sparky621
19-01-2010, 15:43
The plot thickens....I am on switch WL1 Area 20. But when I called at the weekend,the nice lady from customer services read out the note that was in front of her which said Area 20 has been enabled for caller display except for the following switches: bla bla bla...WL1.
So is it enabled or not?
MMM now the dilema, do I call and insist on it being enabled, running the risk that I will be charged £2, or wait for a definative answer :confused:
WL1 is enabled for Caller Display so I would phone back and insist.
If they argue get them to check their internal 'Zone Checker' which will tell them it is
sparky621
19-01-2010, 16:03
Thanks Ben,
I'm doing so now!!
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Oh, they they didn't even answer, played the music then just hung up! NICE!!!
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Called back, should be enabled for tomorrow so "fingers crossed" :)
Thanks Ben :clap:
nigelmclelland
19-01-2010, 16:28
WL1 is enabled for Caller Display so I would phone back and insist.
If they argue get them to check their internal 'Zone Checker' which will tell them it is
Ben, Your our hero, wonder whats going wrong, or are they enabeling all the switches one by one? Anyway as I said - I have caller display on switch WL1 in area 20.
Honestly? It's more likely agents are so used to saying 'no it's not avaliable' for certain customers, they may not immediately check as to whether it is
sparky621
19-01-2010, 16:52
Or the information in front of them is out of date, as seems to have been the case at the weekend. She actually read it out to me, so I can't exactly lay any blame on her!
Anyway, I'll wait and see in 24 hours, after all, I did have it previously, which is when I started this thread ;)
Anyone know if it's switched on for Wirral, Birkenhead Prenton area?
sparky621
19-01-2010, 19:03
My Mother-in-Law has just phoned and.....yipee,caller display is working :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
And its only a couple of hours since it was activated. I can't believe it after all this time :) :) :) :) :)
Thankyou all.
DJ Dave, give it a go, ask what switch you are on and ask them to check if its enabled.
:hyper:
tigglepig
19-01-2010, 21:21
I called over the weekend to be told it's unavailable but I've just tried again and it's now available. They placed it on my account and it was working within 20 minutes.
Yes, caller id might seem a small insignificant little service but when you've had it in the past with BT you really miss not having it!
Anyhow, very happy now :-)
nigelmclelland
19-01-2010, 21:59
This looks promising! Good job you started this thread then Sparky621 ! Not sure what switch Birkenhead and Prenton are on, maybe BenMcr will know, but let us know how you get on "DJ Dave".
Keep posting everyone.
Rang this morning and it was working within 20 mins.
At last my 4 year old Philips DECT phone is doing something useful.
Had given up asking until I saw this thread so many thanks to those that have given info.
BJ
right just rang up and got through to india and they said it was now in my area and he would switch it on for us and it should be working in the next 22 hours.
So I will wait and see what happens, be good if it does!
chrispy2000
20-01-2010, 12:45
Same here (they must be getting fed up with us ;) ).
Phoned at 11.00 and it’s already on. Must be the quickest thing they've done. Even though it’s taken over 5 years to get it.
All I got to do is find the instuction book to find out what all these extra symbols mean. :hyper:
nigelmclelland
20-01-2010, 18:27
Honestly? It's more likely agents are so used to saying 'no it's not avaliable' for certain customers, they may not immediately check as to whether it is
BenMcr, What is it that they have to do at the exchange to modify a switch to be compatible with caller display? Do they have to do a firmware upgrade or maybe replace several components or even replace the switch itself ?
So it looks like Caller display will be network wide soon ?
AndyCalling
20-01-2010, 18:29
Darn, seems like everyone's having the luck except me. Has anyone in the Eastleigh/Southampton (digital network) area 20 got it working yet?
nigelmclelland
20-01-2010, 18:35
Darn, seems like everyone's having the luck except me. Has anyone in the Eastleigh/Southampton (digital network) area 20 got it working yet?
Andy, have you phoned back yet, ask them what switch you are on and get them to check it again! - Keep us posted.
I phoned them today and switch NW1 (Norwich) is still not enabled
nigelmclelland
20-01-2010, 20:45
I phoned them today and switch NW1 (Norwich) is still not enabled
Not yet - Keep an eye on it !:)
The lady I talked to had no knowledge of any imminent upgrade.
nigelmclelland
20-01-2010, 21:01
judging by past posts are you suprised at that ?
AndyCalling
20-01-2010, 21:03
Andy, have you phoned back yet, ask them what switch you are on and get them to check it again! - Keep us posted.
See my previous posts in this thread. I contacted the UK upgrade people last week, they said it would be activated in 24h for £2 per month. If only they knew what they were doing... but they didn't.
Over 24h later it hadn't been activated. I contacted Indian faults and they looked up my number and told me it wasn't available on my line, and cancelled the £2 charge for me. Thank goodness someone knows what they are doing.
Is it worth contacting them again so soon? I will do if I see any evidence that Southampton (the digital network, not the analogue one) or Eastleigh (same network) is being enabled. Or same time next month as I will be doing this regularly from now on. This is my thinking, but if you think there is evidence of things progressing more quickly I'll try sooner.
It's just suspicious that no-one from my area has commented on this thread yet. I assume that means no-one here is getting it yet. I hope we are on the schedule as well, but since we've been waiting about a decade for the promise of the central Southampton network being made digital (originally it was 'some time this year' but that was back in my student days...) I am used to thinking in cable time. I had to move to the outskirts to go digital on cable!
I just think Southampton isn't on their radar in Virgin HQ. We never have been. They may actually have forgotten we're here at all...
judging by past posts are you suprised at that ?
I'm never surprised at anything to do with VM
nothing on as of yet, get the feeling I will be back on the phone tomorrow.
ron.dare
21-01-2010, 09:50
nothing on as of yet, get the feeling I will be back on the phone tomorrow.
I have been following this thread with interest, I am in Brighton (Area 20) which is ex Nynex/C&W/ntl and have been waiting for Caller Display for Years, anyway after reading here I thought id give 150 a try, so I did.
The bloke at 150 went to check and said yes it is avalible in my area so I asked him to add it and he did, Later on I tried dialling *#234# and the message said "Callers identitys will be displayed" but nothing coming up on my phones or caller id boxes yet, do VM use the same standard for caller id as BT in this area?
nigelmclelland
21-01-2010, 09:58
I have been following this thread with interest, I am in Brighton (Area 20) which is ex Nynex/C&W/ntl and have been waiting for Caller Display for Years, anyway after reading here I thought id give 150 a try, so I did.
The bloke at 150 went to check and said yes it is avalible in my area so I asked him to add it and he did, Later on I tried dialling *#234# and the message said "Callers identitys will be displayed" but nothing coming up on my phones or caller id boxes yet, do VM use the same standard for caller id as BT in this area?
Where did you get that code *#234# ? I never typed anything.
ron.dare
21-01-2010, 10:23
Where did you get that code *#234# ? I never typed anything.
Sorry didn't mean to say anyone had quoted the code, I actually knew the caller display control codes as they are the same on BT system x/y switches.
*234# switches it on
#234# switches it off
*#234# to check
So after ringing VM I tried *#234# to see if the service had been activated or not, previousley the message I got back was "sorry the service requested is not avalible from this line" but as I say after ringing VM it now reports "callers identitys will be displayed".
nigelmclelland
21-01-2010, 10:35
Thanks Ron,
Let us know if it works, it takes a short while to activate itself.
ron.dare
21-01-2010, 16:20
Thanks Ron,
Let us know if it works, it takes a short while to activate itself.
Still not working. Just got off the phone from VM (151), depite the *#234# thing reporting it active it seems it is *not* avalible in this area (:
So theve removed it now.
As far as I'm aware those codes are unsupported by VM so I wouldn't trust them
As for Caller Display, no it's not always the same standard.
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Although it looks like it's only enabled on one of the switches for the Brighton and Hove area at the moment
nothing tonight, bet it's not switched on for my area, they should know what they are doing before they just say "oh yes you can get it"
nigelmclelland
21-01-2010, 19:34
nothing tonight, bet it's not switched on for my area, they should know what they are doing before they just say "oh yes you can get it"
I know, give them a week? What do you think?
Still not available on switch DB1 Derby
nigelmclelland
22-01-2010, 12:58
nothing tonight, bet it's not switched on for my area, they should know what they are doing before they just say "oh yes you can get it"
Hi Dave,
If you are in area 20 and switch WL1 (Wirral) you CAN says "BenMcr" get caller display. Have you checked your equipment is caller display compatible from a cable line? Also I second this as I have Caller display and am on WL1 (Area 20).
not sure if this has anything to do with it, but went out this morning and it was still not working, then I saw a few Virgin Media men in the road working on the boxes etc and when I came home tonight it was working!
only waited 5 years for this since we switched to VM.
Digital Fanatic
23-01-2010, 19:54
not sure if this has anything to do with it, but went out this morning and it was still not working, then I saw a few Virgin Media men in the road working on the boxes etc and when I came home tonight it was working!
only waited 5 years for this since we switched to VM.
Possibly... it can fail at cab level.. good to hear it's working :)
nigelmclelland
24-01-2010, 10:40
Possibly... it can fail at cab level.. good to hear it's working :)
Virgin have been doing an awfull lot of Telephone cabinet maintenence, as show on the "customer" zone part of the website, perhaps this is what they are getting ready for ?:dunce:
Possibly... it can fail at cab level.. good to hear it's working :)
or possibly not! how can it fail at cab level??
nigelmclelland
27-01-2010, 11:09
or possibly not! how can it fail at cab level??
I was asking myself how it could fail at cabinet level? Anyway, anyone else had any issues with caller display on VM, or been able to get it for the 1st time ?
Digital Fanatic
27-01-2010, 12:32
or possibly not! how can it fail at cab level??
Why? Do you know better? :confused:
It can and does fail at cab level due to power/battery issues within the cab... I've seen it happen.
nigelmclelland
27-01-2010, 14:11
Hi Digital Fanatic,
Pardon me asking, and please excuse my ignorance, But why do the street cabinets contain batteries? And what are they for? And what else would not work if the batteries failed? Just for my own curiosity?
moaningmags
27-01-2010, 14:32
So that phones keeping working even in a power cut.
The last time we a power cut, while my cordless phones wouldn't work, my wired phone continued to work and I was able to call the power company and get a fix time.
Digital Fanatic
27-01-2010, 17:54
Hi Digital Fanatic,
Pardon me asking, and please excuse my ignorance, But why do the street cabinets contain batteries? And what are they for? And what else would not work if the batteries failed? Just for my own curiosity?
As moaningmags says... for loss of power in an emergency. :)
Why? Do you know better? :confused:
It can and does fail at cab level due to power/battery issues within the cab... I've seen it happen.
i do know better but if your happy then im happy :rolleyes:
Digital Fanatic
27-01-2010, 21:32
i do know better but if your happy then im happy :rolleyes:
Do tell then... :)
Do tell then... :)
whats to tell? a caller display fault cannot happen at cab level, its either switch problems or subs equipment but like i said earlier if your happy then theres no problem.
Digital Fanatic
27-01-2010, 21:39
whats to tell? a caller display fault cannot happen at cab level, its either switch problems or subs equipment but like i said earlier if your happy then theres no problem.
Not true... it is rare to be fair though. My background is outage related, so I do know from a first hand experience. ;)
Not true... it is rare to be fair though. My background is outage related, so I do know from a first hand experience. ;)
well ive never seen an outage due to caller display problems so your first hand experience beats mine.
Digital Fanatic
27-01-2010, 21:48
well ive never seen an outage due to caller display problems so your first hand experience beats mine.
Uddingston is an area that springs to mind the last time I've seen it... you usually get about 4 or 5 customers reporting it on a single cab before its looked at by networks... always seen it fixed as a power issue. :)
moaningmags
27-01-2010, 21:51
I used to have Caller Display then decided it was a waste of time cos the weans answered the phone without looking to see who it was. I come under Uddingston area.
Still not available on switch DB1 Derby :(
nigelmclelland
29-01-2010, 22:03
Still not available on switch DB1 Derby :(
I must admit I would have thought by now caller ID would have been enabled on all the switches, network wide. Any sign of a statement by VM on this one? Anyone else not been able to get CLI? Try calling 150 again in a month?
As I've said before Virgin have stated that all areas will be enabled this year.
However there are 12 months in a year. It is not all going to get done in January
nigelmclelland
30-01-2010, 19:40
As I've said before Virgin have stated that all areas will be enabled this year.
However there are 12 months in a year. It is not all going to get done in January
Thank you BenMcr, I apreciate you having mentioned this before, but WHERE have VM stated that all areas will be enabled in 2010? Can you post a link just to give the others some assurence please?:)
Whats the schedule/Timetable?
Unfortunately, there is no schedule or timetable online. Areas will be enabled when they are enabled.
However getting frustrated that your area hasn't been done when there is now guaranteed date apart from 'this year' is probably a bit pointless
AndyCalling
01-02-2010, 18:22
Also, remember that cable-time is not the same as GMT, it does not progress at the same rate. I've lost count of the number of times Southampton was told it will go digital in the City Centre 'some time this year'. That was many, many years ago and we're still waiting. 'Some time this year' is a standard cable-time measurement meaning (as far as I can tell) 'hopefully before your kids retire'. What it certainly does not mean is 'before December 2010 is out'. Still, we can all hope can't we?
nigelmclelland
09-02-2010, 11:06
Any other areas been enabled for caller display for the 1st time? Any new success stories?
It looks like everyone is sorted other than myself and Andycalling
ron.dare
10-02-2010, 10:11
It looks like everyone is sorted other than myself and Andycalling
And me.
AndyCalling
10-02-2010, 16:53
I shall be trying again as soon as I've had a bill and can be sure I have not been charged after the confusion Virgin generated last time I asked. Be assured, I will tell the world if I ever get it working.
savvychels
16-02-2010, 08:13
Thanks to this thread I've just been on the phone with a lovely Scottish lady who was really helpful :)
I'm in Poole, area reference 20, I didn't get my switch number, but she looked up on the computer (I could hear her typing away) and said it wasn't in my area yet, but noted that it should be available in the next few weeks. She was aware of and up to date with the fact they were rolling it out.
So fingers crossed in the next couple of months I'll finally have it after waiting nearly 10 years LOL!
When I called yesterday I was informed there was no timescale information available for any switches - although the CSR was aware of ongoing upgrades.
Seems a bit strange that they are not working to a schedule! - perhaps they do a lucky draw every Friday for the switch to be upgraded the following week ;)
They are working to a schedule - however Customer Services don't know it .
They get told which areas are or aren't enabled because the schedule may get changed.
nigelmclelland
16-02-2010, 22:34
They are working to a schedule - however Customer Services don't know it .
They get told which areas are or aren't enabled because the schedule may get changed.
What type of a schedule may I ask ?:o:
nigelmclelland
16-02-2010, 22:48
What do you mean?
Well,:erm::erm: what areas can expect to be upgraded next ? We understand this might be liable to change, but can you give us any more info ?
nigelmclelland
17-02-2010, 08:45
Nope
So as I see this you know a bit more than you are letting on? were are you getting your info from Ben ?:D
Digital Fanatic
19-02-2010, 12:45
So as I see this you know a bit more than you are letting on? were are you getting your info from Ben ?:D
errr.... work? :erm: :D ;) :)
nigelmclelland
01-03-2010, 13:34
Anyone else had any joy getting caller display for the 1st time ?
nigelmclelland
22-03-2010, 08:43
Not yet in Derby !
Any sign of life in Derby yet ?;)
AndyCalling
01-04-2010, 15:32
Just checked again in Southampton (Area 20) and it's still not available on my switch yet.
not sure what area/switch I am on, but ex c&w in Addlestone (Surrey) - and comes under hersham for tv, though expect phones are different.
just rung up VM, and not available here, and like others, no idea when (although dont believe the 'to far away from exchange' comment - queried, and have escalated as not a proper reason - prefer the truth as opposed to the 1st thing that sounds plausible to some - however, happy to be proved wrong).
Digital Fanatic
07-04-2010, 17:38
not sure what area/switch I am on, but ex c&w in Addlestone (Surrey) - and comes under hersham for tv, though expect phones are different.
just rung up VM, and not available here, and like others, no idea when (although dont believe the 'to far away from exchange' comment - queried, and have escalated as not a proper reason - prefer the truth as opposed to the 1st thing that sounds plausible to some - however, happy to be proved wrong).
Your switch hasn't been upgraded yet, should be done before the end of this year.
nigelmclelland
22-04-2010, 11:12
Anyone else got caller display yet ?
mersey70
22-04-2010, 14:11
Anyone else got caller display yet ?
I checked again on Monday but still no luck in CH41.
nigelmclelland
02-07-2010, 22:55
The Virginmedia telephone network on the Wirral only uses one Telco switch "WL1" for the whole area, which is now caller display enabled. So good news if you live on the Wirral (like myself) you CAN now have caller display on your landline - (No more excuses Virginmedia!) priced at £2.00 pcm.
CLI is now available in Norwich, switch NW1......and it works
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