someone claiming to be a 200Mb trialist hitting 190Mb

[*sloman*]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Fibre-optic-broadband/Fibre-optic-broadband/td-p/91/page/3

3rd post!

If he is telling the truth that is brilliant!

[Stuart]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Fibre-optic-broadband/Fibre-optic-broadband/td-p/91/page/3

3rd post!

If he is telling the truth that is brilliant!

So, he is boasting on a Virgin owned forum about speeds he is getting on a trial that he probably had to sign a non-disclosure agreement to join.

I don't think he'll be on the trial long.

[AbyssUnderground]

Only if they can figure out who it was. He might have been smart enough to use a proxy or another ISP to post from rather than his actual cable connection(s).

[Stuart]

True

[|Kippa|]

VM have just rolled out 50mbit, how long do you think it will be until 200mbit comes out? 1 to 2 years? Or do you think it will be sooner or later?

[icestar2]

VM have just rolled out 50mbit, how long do you think it will be until 200mbit comes out? 1 to 2 years? Or do you think it will be sooner or later?

Later rather than sooner I would think. It would be silly to launch it to soon. Its something for them to keep up their sleve for now I would imagine.

[Sirius]

So, he is boasting on a Virgin owned forum about speeds he is getting on a trial that he probably had to sign a non-disclosure agreement to join.

I don't think he'll be on the trial long.

That was one of the reason why i have not joined. No trust in who have access to the ip data.

[broadbandking]

Don't CF have access to our ip address?

[Sirius]

Don't CF have access to our ip address?

Yes but are they your boss

[broadbandking]

Yes but are they your boss

True lol

[BomberAF]

Funny this thread should be here as I was talking to the techy who works for virgin when he come around to fix a prob with my V+ box and he told me that the max dowload speed that VM expect they can get with the current system is 200MB. So I presume that within the next few years this will be an available product. About 4 years ago I was chuffed with being able to get 2MB and now I get 20MB that is a 10x increase, so by that logic another 10x increase in the same amount of time would mean that by 2012 200MB will or should possibly be avaiable.

[Ignitionnet]

http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Fibre-optic-broadband/Fibre-optic-broadband/td-p/91/page/3

3rd post!

If he is telling the truth that is brilliant!

Means nothing me old mucka, he's on the same kind of equipment we are he just has a different config file and is only sharing bandwidth with other triallists.

Literally it's just a 4 channel bonding same as everywhere else that has 50Mbit. Uncap your modem and if the bandwidth is there to be had you should be getting close to 200.

[Impz2002]

bomber,

the theoretic max of euroDOCSIS 3.0 is as follows :-

3.0 (4 channels) +171.52 (+152) Mbit/s +222.48 (+200) Mbit/s (VM's current system)
3.0 (8 channels) +343.04 (+304) Mbit/s +444.96 (+400) Mbit/s

So 200meg isnt a far stretch of the imagination it is possible with todays equipment if they can provide that kind of bandwith of the backhauls.

Impz

[BomberAF]

bomber,

the theoretic max of euroDOCSIS 3.0 is as follows :-

3.0 (4 channels) +171.52 (+152) Mbit/s +222.48 (+200) Mbit/s (VM's current system)
3.0 (8 channels) +343.04 (+304) Mbit/s +444.96 (+400) Mbit/s

So 200meg isnt a far stretch of the imagination it is possible with todays equipment if they can provide that kind of bandwith of the backhauls.

Impz

Yeah that was what I was saying the engineer told me. He said that with the current set up that Virgin Media use they expect to ba able to achieve download speeds of 200Mb/s without having to modify the network. Could you please explain what you mean by backhauls as I am not familiar with that term and what it means.;)

[Impz2002]

well you imagine the path your data takes from your computer to the internet. loosly something simple as follows :-Modem --> Street Cab --> UBR (the regional routers in your town) ---> CMTS (Head end for your franchise) then it goes onto VM's backhaul which is kind of like thier connection to the rest of the web. the connection is always going to be bottlenecked by the narrowest bandwith point and the whole network needs to be able to keep up with the 200meg sustained speeds to avoid lots of contention and nasty slow downs. The diagram below may spread some light on it !<br><br>interestingly there isnt going to be too many websites that can sustain a download to you at 200meg most webservers (even giganews) can only sustain about 80megs max !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/HFC_Network_Diagram.svg/800px-HFC_Network_Diagram.svg.png

[BomberAF]

well you imagine the path your data takes from your computer to the internet. loosly something simple as follows :-Modem --> Street Cab --> UBR (the regional routers in your town) ---> CMTS (Head end for your franchise) then it goes onto VM's backhaul which is kind of like thier connection to the rest of the web. the connection is always going to be bottlenecked by the narrowest bandwith point and the whole network needs to be able to keep up with the 200meg sustained speeds to avoid lots of contention and nasty slow downs. The diagram below may spread some light on it !<br><br>interestingly there isnt going to be too many websites that can sustain a download to you at 200meg most webservers (even giganews) can only sustain about 80megs max !

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/HFC_Network_Diagram.svg/800px-HFC_Network_Diagram.svg.png


That is a good point, there isn't going to be much point in getting 200Mb just for one pc but it would be usefull if you had a few pc's/laptops in the house all eating away at your bandwidth.

[Ignitionnet]

most webservers (even giganews) can only sustain about 80megs max !

Mmm maybe their web server but their news caches can do way over 80M ;)

[Turkey Machine]

Just a heads up about 200Mbit. I hope, I sincerely hope, that most who are suckered into this recognise that they need *at least* a wired Gigabit network card, and that also a wireless N router definitely won't cut the mustard.

[Bman]

You wouldn't need a gigabit network card, i'm sure there are plenty of households out there (big families or student houses with 6+ people sharing etc) that would find 50Mb limiting already. If someone has a real use for the full 200Mb i should hope they already know about gigabit lan cards anyway :)

[Turkey Machine]

You wouldn't need a gigabit network card, i'm sure there are plenty of households out there (big families or student houses with 6+ people sharing etc) that would find 50Mb limiting already. If someone has a real use for the full 200Mb i should hope they already know about gigabit lan cards anyway :)

You need something Gigabit to take the feed and split it accordingly though. ;)