speeling?

[kirk1690]

until or untill ?:dunce:

[Sir John Luke]

'Until' or 'till'

[Kymmy]

Until (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=until)

[Halcyon]

until

[Delta Whiskey]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/until

[Maggy]

Well now with any number of free spell checkers plugins available for IE and FF and the PM facility available at this siteI'm wondering why we have a thread dedicated to the spelling of one word?

[Caspar]

Well now with any number of free spell checkers plugins available for IE and FF and the PM facility available at this siteI'm wondering why we have a thread dedicated to the spelling of one word?

I agree, but maybe some CF members aren't as confident in spelling or googling as you are? So, in time of need they turn to the community they're in and depend upon for many things including, it seems, spelling support. :)

[Sir John Luke]

Maybe we could broaden the discussion to cover - "Why 'until', but 'till'?

[lucy7]

Just one L.

I liked the link that Chris did about ..... lose and loose.....if i could link stuff I would do it here!

[joglynne]

I use both until and 'till but thought I would have a look on the web and found the following usage guideline in the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary (http://www.oup.com/oald-bin/web_getald7index1a.pl)

till /t{I}l/ conj., prep., noun, verb
> conj., prep. = until: We’re open till 6 o’clock. * Can’t you wait till we get home? * Just wait till you see it. It’s great. help Till is generally felt to be more informal than until and is used much less often in writing. At the beginning of a sentence, until is usually used.

<snip>
©Oxford University Press, 2005.

[Maggy]

I agree, but maybe some CF members aren't as confident in spelling or googling as you are? So, in time of need they turn to the community they're in and depend upon for many things including, it seems, spelling support. :)

But then we may well end up with several short threads just asking for spelling help?I know this is a help site but that would just become ridiculous and extremely untidy
Now if we can perhaps keep all the spelling inquiries to this one thread as lucy suggested maybe I can see reason.

[rogerdraig]

i might like that lol my spelling can be so bad even the on-line spell checkers and built-in ones give up on even deciding what word i meant often

[xocemp]

i might like that lol my spelling can be so bad even the on-line spell checkers and built-in ones give up on even deciding what word i meant often

You just take your time buddy :tu: :)
But for the love of the English language, please don't revert to text speak.

[kirk1690]

You just take your time buddy :tu: :)
But for the love of the English language, please don't revert to text speak.I wasn't asking for spelling help I was just wondering how other people thought this word was spelt , until untill , it is the first one but the second one just looks right or does it.

[xocemp]

You seem to have mistaken that I have quoted you when adding a reply to rogermevans :)

[kirk1690]

You seem to have mistaken that I have quoted you when adding a reply to rogermevans :)
oh that was a mistake mate meant to press reply , no offence intended.

[Graham M]

'Until' or 'till'

it's 'til - 1 l, a till is something used in a shop ;)

[Maggy]

From Chambers..

until prep 1 up to the time of • worked until 8. 2 up to the time of reaching (a place); as far as • slept until Paris. 3 with negatives before • not until Wednesday. conj 1 up to the time that • He waited until she emerged with the money. 2 with negatives before • not until I say so.
ETYMOLOGY: 13c as untille; see till1 (http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?xref=21C43927&title=21st&query=till%3CSUP%3E1%3C/SUP%3E).


till1 prep up to the time of • wait till tomorrow. conj up to the time when • go on till you reach the station. See also until (http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?xref=21C46260&title=21st&query=until).
ETYMOLOGY: Anglo-Saxon til.

That 13 c spelling shows how much the language has changed..

[Sir John Luke]

it's 'til - 1 l, a till is something used in a shop ;)
Wrong!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/till

...but why, when it's 'until'?

[soup dragon]

surely the question should be 'speeling' or 'spelling' ;)

[Graham M]

Wrong!

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/till

...but why, when it's 'until'?

Yeah I've just looked it up, apparently either is correct, I was only taught 'til at school, it's a shortened form of "until" but till is a completely separate and correct word apparently

[Maggy]

Yet again I'm the Invisible Woman..:confused:

[Graham M]

Sorry Maggy I missed your post :D

[joglynne]

< cough >. I'm even more invisible. #10


:D

[Maggy]

< cough >. I'm even more invisible. #10


:D

Mrs and Mrs Invisible.We should start a club.:D

[Anonymouse]

My General Rule of English Spelling:

For words whose pronunciation is different from the spelling, if it looks wrong it's right, and vice versa. :D

FYI, I got an A for my AEB English ('O' Level equivalent, but harder), and consider myself an excellent speller (if there is such a word!). This is in spite of 5 years of pretty much continual warnings that if my handwriting didn't improve before the exam, my paper would be thrown in the bin. The general opinion of it was that it looked like the trail of a spider with too many legs that'd fallen into an inkwell and wandered over the page after drinking far too much of whatever spiders drink on a night out.

It didn't improve. It couldn't (and hasn't in the 30+ years since). I tried everything, I really did. I still got an A. Go figure. :rolleyes:

[Paul]

One we have fun with at work ;

enrol or enroll

[Sir John Luke]

dispatch or despatch?

[rogerdraig]

any ideas on insitue ( as in still in place )

[Hom3r]

dispatch or despatch?


Both are correct

The other one that I like

Material / Materiel

The later being ued for millitary hardware.

[Hugh]

any ideas on insitue ( as in still in place )
in situ (http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/insitu?view=uk)

[rogerdraig]

thankyou

[Angua]

It is easier to spot others spelling mistakes than ones own ;)

I just get annoyed with people who do not use a spell checker when they have one to use.

[TheNorm]

...I just get annoyed with people who do not use a spell checker when they have one to use.

Aye ewes my spill chequer wons in a whale. It's grate.