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There's many people including me from reading my logs. now reporting being STMd in the early hours of the morning and support saying that it's a fault.
24hr STM just around the corner I'd say.
And also here's what just passed my window
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/03/38.gif
Very constructive both of you.
people were yawning and posting flying pigs before STM even started.
We've had so many recent reports of what MAY happen concering STM (especially in relation to 50Mb) that people either don't know which way to turn or have simply turned off to the news..Either way until it actually does happen or at least is reported with evidence it really is just another rumour
Any chance of having a subsection to this forum " conspiracy corner " perhaps then this forum can be used as a help section.
We've had so many recent reports of what MAY happen concering STM (especially in relation to 50Mb) that people either don't know which way to turn or have simply turned off to the news..Either way until it actually does happen or at least is reported with evidence it really is just another rumour
It's always a rumour until the confirmed faults are implemented.
it's always funny how when we ask support something they either don't know or they will try and get back to us if they ever find out. this fault they knew straight away that it is a fault. it could be a trial but no it's a fault :)
STM 24hrs a day.
VM CS Hello Mr Smith "Would you like super fast 20mbs broadband"
Mr Smith "20mbs oh yes 2.4mb per sec all day/night"
VM CS "Eh no Mr Smith you will only be getting 555k per sec for the most of the day/night"
Mr Smith "**** off then""
And also here's what just passed my window
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2011/03/38.gif
That pig makes me chuckle every time i see it.
Any chance of having a subsection to this forum " conspiracy corner " perhaps then this forum can be used as a help section.
Anybody would think you don't want this thread. others can see that they might not be the only ones that have been STMd at 5am in the morning from reading this help post in the section.
Any chance of having a subsection to this forum " conspiracy corner " perhaps then this forum can be used as a help section.I think your right. There are so many on here who have a friend of a friend of the cleaners cat of the Ceo's office or a mate down the road who has access to everything that Virgin media are going to do before VirginMedia even decide there going to do it :rolleyes: :LOL:
I think people paranoid over STM rumours should click HERE (http://zapatopi.net/afdb/) http://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/free-mad-smileys-122[1].gif (http://smileyshut.com)
Wonder who'll be first to post a "I'm STM'd 24/7 Virgin are application throttling & blocking me from rapidshare" thread. :rollseyes:
Ok, I'll join in. I wonder who will be the first to say I want to hijack the thread as well. here's my post to do it.
Ok, I'll join in. I wonder who will be the first to say I want to hijack the thread as well. here's my post to do it.
Carefull gary you might want your own thread closed ;), you cant discuss anything that might happen thought you knew that by now :sleep: even though you might have seen throttling in the wee hours vm wouldnt do that on your fibre optic superfast they just do internall lab trials :angel:.
Carefull gary you might want your own thread closed ;), you cant discuss anything that might happen thought you knew that by now :sleep: even though you might have seen throttling in the wee hours vm wouldnt do that on your fibre optic superfast they just do internall lab trials :angel:.
If me and others are seeing it in the wee hours then it is happening. I can't see how it can be a fault because the gates should be wide open so to speak after the set times. so someone's obviously sneaking in and closing them early :)
Hypothesis - VM are undertaking 24 hour STM
Premise A - you believe you are being throttled like "many people" (unquantifiable amount, with no evidence of logs or numbers being allegedly STM'd) in the small hours of the morning
Premise B - VM do utilise STM (fact)
Inference - VM are utilising STM on a 24 hour basis.
You may help your case by supplying more information (number of people being STM'd in early hours of morning (doesn't STM last for 5 hours from start of implementation, so if it's just before 2am this could be an explanation, but as no actual times were given, impossible to verify), logs from your machine).
It would help support your case if you gave more info, imho.
Ok, I'll join in. I wonder who will be the first to say I want to hijack the thread as well. here's my post to do it.
Biter bit? ;)
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I am checking for 24 hour STM with my equipment.
Were you doing your "highlights" whilst checking?
You may help your case by supplying more information (number of people being STM'd in early hours of morning (doesn't STM last for 5 hours from start of implementation, so if it's just before 2am this could be an explanation, but as no actual times were given, impossible to verify), logs from your machine).
It would help support your case if you gave more info, imho.
Moldova has agreed to help us gather the evidence. we don't need it though as support have told us they know that it's happening at these new times of 4am to 10am ish..
Ignitionnet
22-03-2009, 12:28
I've seen the reports, it's probably just issues with the new IOS. Seeing as VM are about the only people who actually use STM it's not going to be superbly field tested.
In a perfect world they'd just turn the bloody stuff off but hey that would both require spending some dosh and admitting all the clap trap about how 50Mbit rollout would be a magical cure to all capacity issues was rubbish.
Were you doing your "highlights" whilst checking?
He is wearing a tinfoil helmet :D
Possible protection from STM.
I've seen the reports, it's probably just issues with the new IOS. Seeing as VM are about the only people who actually use STM it's not going to be superbly field tested.
In a perfect world they'd just turn the bloody stuff off but hey that would both require spending some dosh and admitting all the clap trap about how 50Mbit rollout would be a magical cure to all capacity issues was rubbish.
We are seeing no more instances of incorrect triggers than we had
previously. What we are seeing is larger numbers of customers reporting
faults via the newsgroups then previously, particularly for STM queries
They know the faults are there already. they don't need us to report them for them to know. but they're seeing an increase of reports being made. strange when these are new times being noticed from the previous reported ones.
Ignitionnet
22-03-2009, 12:42
They know the faults are there already. they don't need us to report them for them to know. but they're seeing an increase of reports being made. strange when these are new times being noticed from the previous reported ones.
Then there we go, it's all good.
as long as it's another fault then it is good. it can be completely broken but as long as they know that it's broken then it's fine by me too. it's good to know that it's not a trail and won't be real in a month or 2 after testing.
My UBR is one of those currently on the new 7hour per session STM'ing. I have persistently been reporting rubbish speeds since early January and although I only found out about the trial from this forum my problems have been correlated with the trial.
On numerous occasions I have verified that I have not been STM'd but frequently it looks like it until I run Pingplotter and see that the network is falling apart with packet loss everywhere.
I have no objection to STM because if applied properly it will not affect me but in my experience it is a badly broken system that punishes all users. If they are too tight to provide the service that is paid for I wish they would find a way to give that service to low to moderate users without crippling the service.
As for speculation into the future of VM BB...... They have a long history of getting it hopelessly wrong, then reacting to churn with the politician's favourite "we are listening" and then heralding a correction of their own stupidity as innovative. I suspect that the board continue to push the envelopes of customer tolerance until there are too few customers and then Sky will take them over for pocket change .
There's many people including me from reading my logs. now reporting being STMd in the early hours of the morning and support saying that it's a fault.
24hr STM just around the corner I'd say.
as long as it's another fault then it is good. it can be completely broken but as long as they know that it's broken then it's fine by me too. it's good to know that it's not a trail and won't be real in a month or 2 after testing.
I love it when a plan comes together (especially in under three hours)......
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I love it when a plan comes together (especially in under three hours)......
We make a great team.
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telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:41
STM will be changing in september will be 15 hours a day (7 days a week) 9am to midnight on all package L, XL and XXL.
STM will be changing in september will be 15 hours a day (7 days a week) 9am to midnight on all package L, XL and XXL.
If you've got concrete proof of that then now would be a very good time to produce it.
dcclanuk
22-03-2009, 13:44
STM will be changing in september will be 15 hours a day (7 days a week) 9am to midnight on all package L, XL and XXL.
Did you post a photo/scan of the document that you have? I can't find that thread that you opened last night, and I assume it has been deleted!
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/03/36.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/rg/action-box-name/headshot/media/rm4060061440/nm0001558) Wheres this information on 24 hour STM, FOOL! and wheres my van.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:46
Did you post a photo/scan of the document that you have? I can't find that thread that you opened last night, and I assume it has been deleted!
Yes it been deleted ! to protected teamleader !
Sorry I am NOT allowed to post here with photocopies of the STM (september) paperwork.
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 13:47
STM will be changing in september will be 15 hours a day (7 days a week) 9am to midnight on all package L, XL and XXL.
Here we go again, is your friend still not speaking to you? I can understand why not.
You didn't post the scan or photo, you just panicked and asked for thread removal.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:47
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/03/36.jpg (http://www.imdb.com/rg/action-box-name/headshot/media/rm4060061440/nm0001558) Wheres this information on 24 hour STM, FOOL! and wheres my van.
Don't worry it won't be 24 hours STM but it will be 15 hours STM a day.
Don't worry it won't be 24 hours STM but it will be 15 hours STM a day.
Did you have a Snickers bar after getting the previous thread deleted.
No way would I mention insider information to anyone outside of work, your friend must be a bit daft.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:52
Here we go again, is your friend still not speaking to you? I can understand why not.
You didn't post the scan or photo, you just panicked and asked for thread removal.
My friend still NOT speaking to me. He is still angry with me.
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 13:52
Did you have a Snickers bar after getting the previous thread deleted.
No way would I mention insider information to anyone outside of work, your friend must be a bit daft.
Apparently the friend is a team leader, a bit daft doesn't do him justice.
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My friend still NOT speaking to me. He is still angry with me.
And yet here you are repeating the same thing that caused him to not talk to you in the first place.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:55
Teamleader say it not official paperwork, it just a memo paperwork (these are subject to change as virgin media still reviewing STM for the line up for September when the 50Mbps is completed roll out in the summer) So, I was stupid to post here in the 1st place because it not official yet.
Yes it been deleted ! to protected teamleader !
Sorry I am NOT allowed to post here with photocopies of the STM (september) paperwork.
I hope nobody that saved them before they went posts them on the web somewhere :)
Just for the record, no such document was posted.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 13:57
I hope nobody that saved them before they went posts them on the web somewhere :)
if they do, please accepted my apology and please do deleted it, because it not official yet.
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 13:58
I hope nobody that saved them before they went posts them on the web somewhere :)
I copied the contents of the post and will hang onto it until September n see what happens.
Apparently the friend is a team leader, a bit daft doesn't do him justice.
This is probably more suited to him http://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/buffo4.gif (http://smileyshut.com)
Just for the record, no such document was posted.
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/03/35.jpg
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I copied the contents of the post and will hang onto it until September n see what happens.
Let's hope they bring it forward. September's a long time to wait :)
chrispuk2004
22-03-2009, 14:11
Man, Telfordcable comes out with some crap
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 14:12
Man, Telfordcable comes out with some crap
No, it true. Wait until September. You will come back and say I am right in the 1st place.
chrispuk2004
22-03-2009, 14:13
No, it true. Wait until September. You will come back and say I am right in the 1st place.
Ok we will see ;)
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 14:15
No, it true. Wait until September. You will come back and say I am right in the 1st place.
You either need to shut up and say nothing about this or just post the STM info and then we can all sepculate properly.
telfordcable
22-03-2009, 14:21
You either need to shut up and say nothing about this or just post the STM info and then we can all sepculate properly.
Ok fine, I shut up now. I let you find out in september and say I was right afterall. Remember I do hate STM myself too ! I am not here to fool anyones around.
Man, Telfordcable comes out with some crap
You noticed that as well ;)
Well, it got you all talking, LOL :)
Ok fine, I shut up now. I let you find out in september and say I was right afterall. Remember I do hate STM myself too ! I am not here to fool anyones around.
Your a bit early it is not april the 1 yet
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 15:13
Your a bit early it is not april the 1 yet
ROFL very true
Was any of you take the mickey people the same ones with red faces from when you laughed at the previous far fetched crystall ball theories in the past? :)
Turkey Machine
22-03-2009, 15:20
By September I hope to be off Virgin Media's broken cable network for good! In the meantime, I'll just keep using the 2Mbit modem that was registered to the address on another person's account that they haven't blacklisted yet, because with that I get near-perfect pings in games, very low packet loss if any, and good speeds at peak times, which is when I race!
Was any of you take the mickey people the same ones with red faces from when you laughed at the previous far fetched crystall ball theories in the past? :)
Because if it happens in September it will be very different from what has been podted in this thread and Telfords previous deleted thread as the is a lot of water to go under the bridge between then and now, that if the proposed timescale is in the slightest bit anywhere near accurate.
I also would not want to be a Team leader who live near the Telford area during the next few days.Download Failed (1) (http://smileyshut.com)
Because if it happens in September it will be very different from what has been podted in this thread and Telfords previous deleted thread as the is a lot of water to go under the bridge between then and now, that if the proposed timescale is in the slightest bit anywhere near accurate.
I also would not want to be a Team leader who live near the Telford area during the next few days.http://smileyshut.com/smileys/new/Unhappy/thinking-016.gif (http://smileyshut.com)
I didn't know he lived near Telford.
We'll have to wait till September.
His name would suggest that he is in the Telford area though you never know Telford may be his name. Just like we can assume your name is Gary and you are a father, because you sure ain't my daddy.
His name would suggest that he is in the Telford area though you never know Telford may be his name. Just like we can assume your name is Gary and you are a farther, because you sure ain't my daddy.
Sorry. I thought you meant the person who disclosed the information lived near Telford.
I won't pick you up on your spelling of farther :)
If you not going to pick me up on the typo then why mention it?
Seems rather a contradictory statement. Have we reached the point were we start to point out spelling and grammar? Oh dear...
If you not going to pick me up on the typo then why mention it?
Seems rather a contradictory statement. Have we reached the point were we start to point out spelling and grammar? Oh dear...
Because I got the first one wrong I didn't want to mention the other one just incase that one was wrong too.
that's all...
Back on topic - discussing spelling errors in others posts is extremely pathetic. You are also reminded that Off-topic posts are subject to deletion.
Impz2002
22-03-2009, 20:09
:rofl:
This thread is awesome its tickled me something rotten !
LOL !!!
Hmmmmm....:naughty:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33619842-vm-to-remove-traffic-shaping-september.html
I'd say there always seems to be rumours of changes to STM rules but I guess some never come to being.
I'm so going to buy you a beer Russ B :D
moaningmags
22-03-2009, 20:46
Hmmmmm....:naughty:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33619842-vm-to-remove-traffic-shaping-september.html
I'd say there always seems to be rumours of changes to STM rules but I guess some never come to being.
Can't wait for this September to see how this one pans out.
Hmmmmm....:naughty:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33619842-vm-to-remove-traffic-shaping-september.html
I'd say there always seems to be rumours of changes to STM rules but I guess some never come to being.
Yep. proof that Customer Services were telling lies way back then till this very day.
Good find Russ!
:nworthy:
weesteev
22-03-2009, 21:02
The only changes to Traffic Management for non DOCSIS 3 broadband services are being trialled in 5 different headend areas and are posted on the Virgin Media website. All other areas are subject to standard traffic management rules.
Any other method of STM is trialled in enclosed network conditions and do not affect customers. If Virgin do launch another STM version then it will be announced on the website.
Hope this clears up any uncertainty.
24hr STM just around the corner I'd say.
That'll majorly ****up their add campaign ;)
Ignitionnet
23-03-2009, 12:03
That'll majorly ****up their add campaign ;)
No it wouldn't. Virgin Media could eat your firstborn and their PR people will try and convince you it's for your own good.
Raistlin
23-03-2009, 12:07
No it wouldn't. Virgin Media could eat your firstborn and their PR people will try and convince you it's for your own good.
Fewer people in the household = less people using your broadband connection = less chance of you hitting your STM = you not as likely to get affected by STM = STM not as bad for you = STM only bad for 'the bad guys' = STM a good thing.
Therefore:
VM Eating First Born proves that STM = Good Thing.
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Can I haz a job nao?
Turkey Machine
23-03-2009, 12:09
I didn't know LOLspeak was the qualification. Speaking total sh*** possibly! :D
No it wouldn't. Virgin Media could eat your firstborn and their PR people will try and convince you it's for your own good.
I'm have no doubt they will try, but I think the ASA is starting to wake up to VM's practice in this regard.
Fewer people in the household = less people using your broadband connection = less chance of you hitting your STM = you not as likely to get affected by STM = STM not as bad for you = STM only bad for 'the bad guys' = STM a good thing.
Therefore:
VM Eating First Born proves that STM = Good Thing.
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Can I haz a job nao?
You working for VM PR people ???? :)
Ignitionnet
23-03-2009, 15:32
Fewer people in the household = less people using your broadband connection = less chance of you hitting your STM = you not as likely to get affected by STM = STM not as bad for you = STM only bad for 'the bad guys' = STM a good thing.
Therefore:
VM Eating First Born proves that STM = Good Thing.
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Can I haz a job nao?
You can haz job nao.
I will contact the PR guy in London and forward your details so he can discuss with you.
Leave your integrity at the door.
Raistlin
23-03-2009, 15:33
Nice one, thanks :)
Ignitionnet
23-03-2009, 15:33
I'm have no doubt they will try, but I think the ASA is starting to wake up to VM's practice in this regard.
Hah no they aren't, I've had several dealings with the ASA. Companies can advertise whatever they want with regards to being unlimited so long as a certain number of customers don't hit any FUP that's in place.
I haven't seen much evidence the ASA are less inclined to swallow the BS than previously, they are quite light touch in a lot of ways.
Hmmmmm....:naughty:
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33619842-vm-to-remove-traffic-shaping-september.html
I'd say there always seems to be rumours of changes to STM rules but I guess some never come to being.
:clap::clap: Stunning find.
Ignitionnet
23-03-2009, 15:38
Nice one, thanks :)
You have a PM so you can get in touch with the man.
Hah no they aren't, I've had several dealings with the ASA. Companies can advertise whatever they want with regards to being unlimited so long as a certain number of customers don't hit any FUP that's in place.
I didn't mean in regard to unlimited, but never mind.
Hah no they aren't, I've had several dealings with the ASA. Companies can advertise whatever they want with regards to being unlimited so long as a certain number of customers don't hit any FUP that's in place.
The 5%?
Virgin saying that it's only 5% that are affected is how they get away with it?
broadbandking
23-03-2009, 16:25
Wouldn't they have to prove it to be able to advertise it?
Milambar
23-03-2009, 17:01
Only if someone decided to call their bluff over it, I think.
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 20:57
my mate just told me that virgin media is to scrap STM on 'S' 2 Megabit and bring STM Level 1 on 'L' 10 Megabit and STM Level 2 on XL 20 Megabit and STM Level 3 on XXL 50 Megabit and they might removed all STM on upload due in September. Still in talk about future STM.
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 20:58
my mate just told me that virgin media is to scrap STM on 'S' 2 Megabit and bring STM Level 1 on 'L' 10 Megabit and STM Level 2 on XL 20 Megabit and STM Level 3 on XXL 50 Megabit and they might removed all STM on upload due in September. Still in talk about future STM.
Is this the same mate who wasn't talking to you because of the other stuff you told us?
If so, he's even more stupid that we originally thought:dozey:
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 20:59
yes same bloke (he work for virgin media)
I just saw STM Level 3 on XXL (it look pretty good to me!)
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:01
Is this the same mate who wasn't talking to you because of the other stuff you told us?
If so, he's even more stupid that we originally thought:dozey:
LoL
You couldnt make this stuff up!
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:02
yes same bloke (he work for virgin media)
I just saw STM Level 3 on XXL (it look pretty good to me!)
Wonder how long before he's not talking to you again ;)
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:02
LoL
You couldnt make this stuff up!
would i make it up ?
The words "quit while you're ahead" spring to mind....
would i make it up ?
You asked
YES :LOL:
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:05
Wonder how long before he's not talking to you again ;)
He talk to me now. I had apology to him. But I won't give out full details of what is STM level 1, 2 and 3 are ?
But, Level 3 is pretty good ! I might go for XXL if Virgin Media go ahead with the new STM in three level in due course. They might change again. Wait and see. He got another meeting this Friday about the future of STM and also the talk of 100Mbps trial and upload speed talk.
*BURP*
Opps sorry, just a little something repeating there.
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:09
It's already been discussed on this forum that the S tier will have tighter restrictions than it currently has.
For the record I think, either your friend is non-existant and you're making this up.
Or
Your friend really doesn't like his job and would like another.
Or
Your friend is daft
A) For telling you stuff he shouldn't.
B) For tell you stuff AGAIN particularly after you posted details on a public forum.
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He talk to me now. I had apology to him. But I won't give out full details of what is STM level 1, 2 and 3 are ?
I'm sure that will save his job.
He talk to me now. I had apology to him. But I won't give out full details of what is STM level 1, 2 and 3 are ?
But, Level 3 is pretty good ! I might go for XXL if Virgin Media go ahead with the new STM in three level in due course. They might change again. Wait and see. He got another meeting this Friday about the future of STM and also the talk of 100Mbps trial and upload speed talk.
So if any of this is true it will be even easier for them to narrow down your ***mate***. Nail and coffin spring to mind :D
If you were my mate i would have told you to stfu by now :LOL:
He talk to me now. I had apology to him. But I won't give out full details of what is STM level 1, 2 and 3 are ?
But, Level 3 is pretty good ! I might go for XXL if Virgin Media go ahead with the new STM in three level in due course. They might change again. Wait and see. He got another meeting this Friday about the future of STM and also the talk of 100Mbps trial and upload speed talk.
this is different what you said the other day, is you friend either mr birkett , or mr branson
Can you ask your friend what colour this level 3 STM will be?
Can you ask your friend what colour this level 3 STM will be?
Sounds to me like Defcon levels :LOL:
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:15
I hope it's a pretty pink colour :)
alferret
23-03-2009, 21:16
You just gotta love these threads, its like guessing the lottery numbers, no one knows what's going to happen, when its going to happen or even where. Speculative threads do make interesting reading though, nearly as good as watching Gertie Bucket seductively teasing her top off :erm:
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:16
Level 3 STM is uncapped on upload !
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:17
Level 3 STM is uncapped on upload !
Aye, but will it be pink?
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:18
Colour is Black !
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:18
What colour is level 2?
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:19
Virgin Media is in processing on next level of trialing a new 100Mbps alongside with a 25Mbps upload could be ready in UK by 2012.
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:20
But I won't give out full details of what is STM level 1, 2 and 3 are ?
Level 3 STM is uncapped on upload !
.............
Black, wonderful. I think I can carry that off. Sign me up!
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:21
Level 2 is throttling to 80%
Here you go,
My mate says these are the real colours
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:22
Do you have a problem where u cant keep your mouth closed? I bet you're really good with secrets...
Level 2 is throttling to 80%
See my previous post!
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:22
Level 2 is throttling to 80%
But what colour is it?
And what colour is level 1?
Is the throttling for upstream or downstream and to what levels?
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:23
I can't wait for the 100 Mbps downstream and 25 Mbps upstream in 2012 as BT and Virgin set war to war on the speed as BT had a secret trying to push it up to 200Mbps !
Sirius, Yellow with brown eyes..I'll never get away with that.
Damn you VirginMedia you sold me a lie, I want my black level 3 STM *Stomps feet*
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:24
But what colour is it?
And what colour is level 1?
Level 2 - Blue
Level 1 - Red
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:25
Level 2 - Blue
Level 1 - Red
Man, have all 220 of your posts been a load of crap?
Or just the last 219?
OMFG... You just couldn't make this up could you?.....But wait! :erm:
I can't wait for the 100 Mbps downstream and 25 Mbps upstream in 2012 as BT and Virgin set war to war on the speed as BT had a secret trying to push it up to 200 Mbps !
:LOL:
That's it you are totally off your trolley now. Can i have some of what you are smoking :)
This is far better than the gas powered modems thread :LOL:
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:30
My mate say Virgin Media are listen to all of you ! Virgin Media is doing everything they can do ! Virgin Media want you all to be happy !
Anyway Virgin is in talk of changing cable from the green box to every houses as a new fibre optic replacement because of UBR problem and speed issues problem. It will be resolving in 2012.
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:31
That doesn't answer the question though,
Is the throttling for upstream or downstream and to what levels?
On level 2
I'm still gutted there's no pink :(
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:31
My mate say Virgin Media are listen to all of you ! Virgin Media is doing everything they can do ! Virgin Media want you all to be happy !
Anyway Virgin is in talk of changing cable from the green box to every houses as a new fibre optic replacement because of UBR problem and speed issues problem. It will be resolving in 2012.
They havent even paid for the current ones yet. I doubt they will change them all.
My mate say Virgin Media are listen to all of you ! Virgin Media is doing everything they can do ! Virgin Media want you all to be happy !
Anyway Virgin is in talk of changing cable from the green box to every houses as a new fibre optic replacement because of UBR problem and speed issues problem. It will be resolving in 2012.
Did he say if they are to change the color of the UBR to match the upstream utilization of the matter streams ??
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:32
They can do it because Virgin and Sky possibly to be merge in together !
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:34
They can do it because Virgin and Sky possibly to be merge in together !
I very much doubt that will happen.
There's more chance of the STM figures you posted happening than there is of that.
chrispuk2004
23-03-2009, 21:35
I very much doubt that will happen.
There's more chance of the STM figures you posted happening than there is of that.
So 0% chance then?
Thhis probably all started because some bozo didn't set the clock on a new piece of kit, and had STM kicking off at the wrong times.
Actually, if I take my time from the UBR, it doesn't do summertime correctly, so are we going to see STM times skewed because of that?
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:35
Do you want an honest answer what the true output will be in september ??
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:37
Do you want an honest answer what the true output will be in september ??
Of course we do but then your friend would have to kill you for messing with his colour charts :D
Do you want an honest answer what the true output will be in september ??
Go on then truly amaze me :)
They can do it because Virgin and Sky possibly to be merge in together !
Seems like you're just having a laugh now. This thread started off as a potentially legitimate subject but if it was just meant as a joke then I'm going to close it as we don't appreciate CF being used that way.
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:38
I want a bonding cable 2 x 50 Mbps / 2 x 1.6 Mbps = 100 Mbps / 3.2 Mbps
joglynne
23-03-2009, 21:38
telfordcable have you ever considered the your friend may be winding you up to pay you back for 'leaking' the earlier 'information'?
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:39
telfordcable have you ever considered the your friend may be winding you up to pay you back for 'leaking' the earlier 'information'?
And testing you to see if you would do so again after promising not to.
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:42
Ok the honest answer of the output in september (is ....... STM will be reduced and lots better than the current one we had)
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My mate tell me everything as he work for virgin media and he say at the moment Neil is unhappy with problem with ongoing 10/20/50 speed issues and urgent a quick FIX !!!
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:47
My mate tell me everything as he work for virgin media and he say at the moment Neil is unhappy with problem with ongoing 10/20/50 speed issues and urgent a quick FIX !!!
Neil told him this personally?
Neil told him this personally?
:LOL:
telfordcable
23-03-2009, 21:54
i better shut up now or neil will come round and smack my face !
moaningmags
23-03-2009, 21:55
Can't stop now, you have a captive audience :D
Can't stop now, you have a captive audience :D
We have gone over our quota for the night, He has stm'd us till tomorrow :LOL:
frogstamper
23-03-2009, 23:50
I love it when a plan comes together (especially in under three hours)......
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Your both a pair of crazy fools.;)
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VectorSigma
24-03-2009, 00:12
Well I had a hearty LOL at this topic Telford you are a man of Legend.
Your friend Neil tell him to come fix my Junction box to green one, perhaps then ill get my true 10MB and no packet loss.
Ignitionnet
24-03-2009, 12:25
Anyway Virgin is in talk of changing cable from the green box to every houses as a new fibre optic replacement because of UBR problem and speed issues problem. It will be resolving in 2012.
If your mate were pinocchio I'd be wiping his nose for him, and I'm nowhere near Telford.
That is complete and utter rubbish that VM will be running fibre to homes any time soon.
telfordcable
24-03-2009, 12:26
Yep they will ! Neil want a fibre to the houses in 2012 to get 150Mbps !
Ignitionnet
24-03-2009, 12:29
i better shut up now or neil will come round and smack my face !
I doubt it, laugh in your face perhaps.
Seriously, your mate is an installer, he gets paid less than a secretary and his job involves running cables, plugging coax in, chroning phone cable, testing levels with a yes/no meter, and phoning up to arrange provisioning.
Do you really, really, really think he would have any idea of Virgin Media strategy or what the CEO thinks about anything?
If you're really that gullible I've a bridge to sell you.
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Yep they will ! Neil want a fibre to the houses in 2012 to get 150Mbps !
You don't need fibre to homes to do that, the existing DOCSIS 3 network has 200Mbit downstream capacity and an 8 channel modem, which exist already, can deliver 400Mbit to a single MAC domain.
chrispuk2004
15-09-2009, 23:39
No, it true. Wait until September. You will come back and say I am right in the 1st place.
Its well into September, wheres this 24 Hour STM?
Welshchris
15-09-2009, 23:44
Neil is taking me to lunch on Friday because of all the problems ive had over the past few weeks, while there he has even told me that he will go into full details of the business plans for the company for the next 2 years <g>
Sephiroth
15-09-2009, 23:49
Neil is taking me to lunch on Friday because of all the problems ive had over the past few weeks, while there he has even told me that he will go into full details of the business plans for the company for the next 2 years <g>
Not now, he won't!
OT, but who cares right now anyway?
I've just re-read this whole thread and the comedy value gets cranked up to 11 if you read TelfordCable's posts as the character 'Short Round' from 'Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.'
I do this kind of thing a lot. It makes internet fora far funnier than they have a right to be.
Oh I haven't stuck my nose into this thread since my first posting...it's a rich vein of concious and unconscious humour..
A damned good read..:D
Ignitionnet
16-09-2009, 09:19
It actually reminds me of how much I enjoy the British sense of humour. The sarcasm is rich and flowing.
Now where are these people from this half of the West Midlands that is apparently trialling this stuff posting their speed tests, given that VM couldn't keep less than 100 Ashford triallists silent :)
Oh I have 10Mbit upstream:
Modulation 16QAM
Symbol Rate (KSym/sec) 2560
4 * 2560 = 10240kbit/s = 10.24Mbit/s
Sadly VM insist on throttling it down :(
Max Traffic Rate : 1750000 bps
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