View Full Version : 50MB Install Monday What To Expect?
vb_packets
20-03-2009, 21:41
Got my 50MB Service being installed on Monday. I have already got the router and plugged it in. I have not long ago brought a Netgear Router. I paid £104 for it in Currys. Its the WPN824 RangeMax Wireless Cable Router. The Coverage on my one is 10x but the Coverage on the Virgin Media Netgear Router is 5x. I got Virgin Media coming Monday so i dunno what to expect when the work has been complete. And does he run a different cable to the modem compared to the one i got now?
I know people are complaining of slow speeds but if that happens then ill try the modem without their router and with it to compare it. Virgin Media def need to admit to their throttling though.
broadbandking
20-03-2009, 21:47
You have to have a new modem, I can't say I have ever got slow speeds, deends n area really, what throttling do you mean?
Virgin at the moment are not throttling the 50Mb there are rumours but no one can confirm or prove this.
vb_packets
20-03-2009, 21:49
its just peoples posts i have been reading around these forums about their slow speeds or them throttling because they are downloading too much.
shane_uk
20-03-2009, 22:32
50MB Install Monday What To Expect...A big fat cap on your bum coming soon
vb_packets
20-03-2009, 22:51
50MB Install Monday What To Expect...A big fat cap on your bum coming soon
what are you getting at?
broadbandking
20-03-2009, 22:52
what are you getting at?
The fact VM will apply STM to 50Mb not long after its fully rolled out
vb_packets
20-03-2009, 22:55
when they do apply it the 50MB users will still have more benefit
broadbandking
20-03-2009, 22:58
when they do apply it the 50MB users will still have more benefit
Whilst that been true the throttled speed rumours don't look good if true but I don't really care as I only have the 50Mb until end of May
General Maximus
21-03-2009, 00:12
the engineer will bring the modem round with him and just use it to replace your old one, he wont replace any cables or anything. They are brainwashed into telling you that you can only use the Netgear router they have provided but just ignore them.
Be warned, once they get the modem up and running they will run a speed test from an official VM test server. When they did it for me and another people in my area we only got 26mbit. If that happens to you run the test from speedtest.net and you'll get your true speed.
I know other peops have been experiencing probs with 50mbit over the last couple of weeks but mine has been super sweet.
fedupstill
21-03-2009, 00:36
if speed test gives you a true speed then virgin owe me some refunds on my 50mb :)
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www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk also gives the same results so either my 50mb has a fault or speedtest sites are way off
Monday 12:26 21301 kbps (2.66MB/s) 1390 kbps (174kB/s)
Tuesday 14:33 22847 kbps (2.86MB/s) 1569 kbps (196kB/s)
Wednesday 09:37 18164 kbps (2.27MB/s) 1589 kbps (199kB/s)
i lost the will to live on thursday and sick of tests now :(
50MB Install Monday What To Expect?
Hell on earth.
STM
Crap service
Why do people payout money for 50mbs anyway.
if speed test gives you a true speed then virgin owe me some refunds on my 50mb :)
www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk (http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk) also gives the same results so either my 50mb has a fault or speedtest sites are way off
Monday 12:26 21301 kbps (2.66MB/s) 1390 kbps (174kB/s)
Tuesday 14:33 22847 kbps (2.86MB/s) 1569 kbps (196kB/s)
Wednesday 09:37 18164 kbps (2.27MB/s) 1589 kbps (199kB/s)
i lost the will to live on thursday and sick of tests now :(
I think you may have a problem. Although Virgin don't recommend some of these speed test sites I think they give a fair indication of problems.
Mine from www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk)
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and from speedtest.net
[URL="http://www.speedtest.net"]https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/03/19.png (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/%5BURL=http://www.speedtest.net%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://www.speedtest.net/result/433813207.png%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5D)
And with reference to to OP. What to expect?
Well most of the time blistering speeds but sudden unexplained speed drops that can last a few minutes or a few hours.
OK we may get STM at some point - but for now I'm basking in the sun ;)
fedupstill
21-03-2009, 01:21
and just because virgin like to annoy me it changes like it seems to do several times a day but i have the fault ....
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http://www.mybroadbandspeed.co.uk/results/03303469.png
either i have 3 broken pc's that suddenly fix themselves or virgins network opperates better at different times of the day but on the whole more bad than good
Why do people payout money for 50mbs anyway.
prior to the huge issues before december ive had good service and because i use bandwidth at peak times with multiple pc's and consoles i follow the traffic management or pay for a better tier
it just recently become crap to the point its not worth having :(
broadbandking
21-03-2009, 09:06
50MB Install Monday What To Expect?
Hell on earth.
STM
Crap service
Why do people payout money for 50mbs anyway.
Hell on earth?
STM - Well not at the moment and no annoucement about when or limits, so that incorrect.
Crap Service - With a new product there will always be issues and what crap service are you referring, I have top notch speeds, you may have bad service but there are millions of other customer who aren't, don't paint everyone with the same brush as you.
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vb_packets
21-03-2009, 12:22
is all i can really say , its got to be alot better than the 20MB Service
Hell on earth?
STM - Well not at the moment and no annoucement about when or limits, so that incorrect.
Crap Service - With a new product there will always be issues and what crap service are you referring, I have top notch speeds, you may have bad service but there are millions of other customer who aren't, don't paint everyone with the same brush as you.
You forgot to mention possible cloning of his config from launch, stm throttling as well as application throttle coming soon (quoted by mr berkett himself), im sure theres some other nasties coming soon the past 2 years under the rebrand have proved this - next announcment should be april-may this year if my vm math is correct.
broadbandking
21-03-2009, 13:22
As there has been no annoucement of limits or anything so why would I have mention something I know nothing nor do you or anyone on this forum so don't stir things because your bitter about vm services
As there has been no annoucement of limits or anything so why would I have mention something I know nothing nor do you or anyone on this forum so don't stir things because your bitter about vm services
Who is stirring things up not me this very forum seen a cable hacker come here and gloat about services taken as well as it being well publicised all over the internet, cue the guy comes to post here, stm is already here and is getting worse every few months - shortly coming to 50mb after the whole country has it according to well placed vm sources and neil berkett was quoted at christmas as saying application throttling is coming in the second quarter of this year.
So far from stirring anything im just informing the guy of what to expect from a neutrals pov and not from an employee.
Raistlin
21-03-2009, 14:55
I'm a 'neutral' too, but genuinely so in that I couldn't give two hoots either way as opposed to other 'neutrals' who seem to have an axe to grind with regards to VM at every turn.
I note though that you failed to point out that the number of people detrimentaly affected by the issues you've described is actually quite a small percentage of the overall number of VM customers.
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Why do people payout money for 50mbs anyway.
To get this sort of speed thats why
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broadbandking
21-03-2009, 15:42
Who is stirring things up not me this very forum seen a cable hacker come here and gloat about services taken as well as it being well publicised all over the internet, cue the guy comes to post here, stm is already here and is getting worse every few months - shortly coming to 50mb after the whole country has it according to well placed vm sources and neil berkett was quoted at christmas as saying application throttling is coming in the second quarter of this year.
So far from stirring anything im just informing the guy of what to expect from a neutrals pov and not from an employee.
I maybe a employee but still have my personal views, the OP can see all the threads regarding STM and app throttling, I merely was saying whats the point in posting this, it is all over the forum, the OP wanted to know what expect when its installed not what is expected in the coming months of 50Mb.
As it comes with a 12-18 month contract he might want to know what will be happening in the coming contract period and not have looked in the other threads.
Im sure it should be good for him and wish him all the best.
yes but people who signed up nwo how can they apply a cap on them they did not sign up to any caps on their bb 50mbit
fedupstill
21-03-2009, 20:47
yes but people who signed up nwo how can they apply a cap on them they did not sign up to any caps on their bb 50mbit
subject to change of contract blah blah but they do have to notify you when any big changes are made to your contract and should you not agree to the new changes then you can walk away with no penalty charges :) contracts work both ways
we all know its coming but when is the question and will it be fair because 75% on 20mb is a big loss in my opinion
i also wouldnt mind having 50mb working though before its capped :(
i thought the whole point of this docsis 3 thing was there would be no caps? and better speeds?
spoke to virgin advisor today he said it wont affect 50mb customers :):)
broadbandking
21-03-2009, 22:10
spoke to virgin advisor today he said it wont affect 50mb customers :):)
He was wrong
spoke to virgin advisor today he said it wont affect 50mb customers :):)
what some bloody indian reading from a script, could he/she actually understand your question.
broadbandking
22-03-2009, 08:31
what some bloody indian reading from a script, could he/she actually understand your question.
I am readin your posts and see you dont like VM, can I ask why post here and please tell me you have VM services.
Maybe the rep didn't understand as he may have been in Customer Services here they are not trained in tech lingo
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i thought the whole point of this docsis 3 thing was there would be no caps? and better speeds?
Not at all, however it will help with network load so you will see overloading on the UBR's not be as bad as it has been until VM overload them again and again.
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As it comes with a 12-18 month contract he might want to know what will be happening in the coming contract period and not have looked in the other threads.
Im sure it should be good for him and wish him all the best.
Its a 12 month contract mate not 18
I am readin your posts and see you dont like VM, can I ask why post here and please tell me you have VM services.
Maybe the rep didn't understand as he may have been in Customer Services here they are not trained in tech lingo
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Not at all, however it will help with network load so you will see overloading on the UBR's not be as bad as it has been until VM overload them again and again.
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Its a 12 month contract mate not 18
See there you go again bringing facts to the table :). You know some will not like that :LOL:
what some bloody indian reading from a script, could he/she actually understand your question.
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Ignitionnet
22-03-2009, 10:06
The engineer will come to your house, install a flux capacitor, and call up VM to send the 1.21 Jiggawatts to the modem.
You will then be among the few in the UK who receive a half-decent downstream, even if, like a selfish woman, you will be receiving only as the upstream sucks.
vb_packets
22-03-2009, 12:10
The engineer will come to your house, install a flux capacitor, and call up VM to send the 1.21 Jiggawatts to the modem.
You will then be among the few in the UK who receive a half-decent downstream, even if, like a selfish woman, you will be receiving only as the upstream sucks.
lol and would i seriously want one of these in my bedroom. LOL
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9430/fluxo.th.jpg (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fluxo.jpg)
do they have to come round and install it? and is it true that the modem requires 2 connections?
do they have to come round and install it? and is it true that the modem requires 2 connections?
The modem has one connection and has a manned installation which costs £80 to be installed, full details in the link below.
http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/50Mb/product_pricing_and_tech_info.html
Isn't being a 50mbit customer synonymous with illegal file sharing, software and film piracy ?
Raistlin
30-03-2009, 09:51
Isn't being a 50mbit customer synonymous with illegal file sharing, software and film piracy ?
No.
Isn't being a 50mbit customer synonymous with illegal file sharing, software and film piracy ?
No it is to do with oneupmanship and gaming plus you can download from Itunes and the BBC iplayer fast.
yeah now with 3 lap tops and a pc and a ps3 and a xbox in the house a 2mbit connection just wont cut it... faster the better espesially when all lap tops are being used watching youtube videos buying movies from itunes download firmware and demo games from the ps3, itunes is good always get full dl speed and can pay for the good movies and tv episodes without leaving the house. the quicker they dl the better
so you say the only reason anyone would ever need a fast net connection is to download warez? couldent possibly be for any other reason?
9/10 cats prefer whiskas :P
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