50mb service and routers

[Bigmaca]

Just had 50mb installed (pilot).
I'm a little concerned on the over head the router takes out of the speed.

A direct connection to the modem gets me 49.7meg but through my modem gets me between 45-48 max.

Anyone got any ideas what i can do? and if the answers get a new router -any recomendations?

[broadbandking]

what router are you using currently?

[Bigmaca]

It's a linksys wireless G wrt54gs but i'm wired into it.

I'm aware of the wireless issues with the 50mb service and how they recommend N routers (i also believe there are problems with some N routers too VM are running trails of different routers)

[broadbandking]

They did a shot trial on the current netgear one, just get a N router with a gigabit lan if you can spend that much, the netgear ones are nice and belkin - Look here http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143170 or http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120468

[LaineY]

its because ur using a wireless G router...

its much advised to get a N Router..

[broadbandking]

I wouldn't say advised but a must lol

[hokkers999]

its because ur using a wireless G router...

its much advised to get a N Router..

Did you miss the bit where he said it was a wired connection? The WRT54GS has 100 mbit ethernet ports. There will be *some* overhead from the router. Might be worth looking at either DD-WRT or Tomato firmware loads?

[Bigmaca]

whats DD-WRT ?

[dev]

its because ur using a wireless G router...

its much advised to get a N Router..

the wireless rating of a router has no bearing on the wired speed...

[broadbandking]

No but purchasing a new router and future proofing yourself is the best thing to do

[LaineY]

DD-WRT is firmware you can upload to your router...to change extra settings etc..
not advised if u dont know what your doing

[popper]

the wireless rating of a router has no bearing on the wired speed...

true, however, the routers internal CPU does have a large effect on data throughput though, and thats the odd thing here.

in the WRT54GS, it has a rated CPU from 200MHz to 240 MHz depending on the revision.

what is your exact version/revision BTW?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series#WRT54GS

only the WRTSL54GS has a faster CPU spec with a rated CPU at 264 MHz.

what happens if you turn off the wireless funtionality of your GS , do you get the speed back?

what if you just turn off the wireless security of the wireless part, the same assumed increase in speed/data throughput?

if not then its pointing to the firmware (although the WAN bridge might also have a speed problem) its generally thought that if your using a 200MHz+ CPU in pure wired mode, it should be enough to parse and process 50Mbit/s wired.... perhaps more, all the way up to near "fast ethernet"'s 100Mbit spec.

the idea is simple enough, remove or reduce the work the internal CPU has to do elsewere, and so, that gives it more time to parse and process the wired parts and push data through the ports.

[Bigmaca]

It a ver 6 with V1.50.6 Firmware.

Just downloaded the 1.50.9 version which i'll install later when i finished work.

[popper]

They did a shot trial on the current netgear one, just get a N router with a gigabit lan if you can spend that much, the netgear ones are nice and belkin - Look here http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143170 or http://www.ebuyer.com/product/120468

see thats want im talking about broadbandking, people just assume it will work at full speed.

given the details i can find with a few minutes looking again.

that
NETGEAR RangeMax Dual Band Wireless-N Router WNDR3300

you point to, doesnt infact have gigabit, only 10/100 "fast Ethernet"

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/30502/96/
and while they dont say what speed internal CPU/SOC it is running at , it appears that their chosen SOC/CPU can do upto 300MHz but OC, it could be just as easy be running far lower....to save costs on slower cheaper parts,their lab tests did get above the 50Mbit on the wire but seem somewhat lacking and the wireless part didnt reach 60Mbit even in the location A , thats bad for an 11n.

"The all-Broadcom design uses a BCM4704 processor"

http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4704

i cant seem to find with limited looking again,any real spec on the
Belkin N1 Wireless CableDSL Router

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/12/32.jpg (http://www.belkin.co.uk/) so i dont even now if thats using a 1gig part, or what that might be!

[th'engineer]

http://www.usr.com/products/networking/wireless-product.asp?sku=USR5465 up to 125

[popper]

th'engineer, you do know thats only an old 11g+/MAXg , I.E they use software at both ends to try and compress the data throughput, and so if your real lucky, increase the overall speed right ?.

if your data's already compressed (Zip's.Rar,video etc), its not going to be any faster and perhaps slower infact than generic 11g , as they need to process the file anyway, only text gets a slight boost, and only if you have the same make at both ends.

all these are just generic 11g with tweaks, and so your looking at your usual 22Mbit/s MAX ,15Mbit average real speed over wireless and the usual average for wired speeds.

so NOT good for wireless top 20Mbit, never mind 50Mbit speeds, and as for the wired part , i cant seem to find any data again to see if it might be strained as per the OP's problem or werse....it is USR after all so it may or not be capable, the USR 11b's were great, the 11g's sometimes ok, sometimes not for full 20Mbit wireless use.

i cant seem to find any real tech data for these USR 11g+ eather, so cant say if the internal SOC/CPu's any good....

OC people might be perfectly happy with an old (wireless)router thats the bottleneck, but buying them new today!,it's werth thinking are they "good for me and my use", if you know the score, then fine, otherwise ask,read and learn OC.