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NEONKNIGHT
15-12-2008, 09:43
A bleak commentary by CNN on Sony and its PS3 - when will there be a BIG price reduction to ''save'' the console?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=203995

Microsoft recently said that the current recession would not have a impact on the perform of Xbox360 console but surely no one is recession proof even Nintendo Wii?

:(

Charlie_Bubble
15-12-2008, 11:17
RIP.

pabscars
15-12-2008, 11:28
Given how Microsoft are running a huge TV campain for the 360 this Christmas, and the fact they have also reduced the console price significantly, i think this may sway sony to reduce their console price, if they dont then i can only see sales of the ps3 plummeting further, coupled with the fact that the online aspect of the ps3 imo isnt as good as the xbox, doesnt bode well for sony.

southwell
15-12-2008, 11:41
They can only go down so far though. The PS3 has bluray and wireless as standard, whereas Xbox is all add-on's. I have both and almost always play my PS3 over my Xbox.

Stuart
15-12-2008, 11:45
They can only go down so far though. The PS3 has bluray and wireless as standard, whereas Xbox is all add-on's. I have both and almost always play my PS3 over my Xbox.

The problem is that while Blu Ray is undoubtedly the most successful form of HD Disc, even Blu Ray is not selling well. Thus, the PS3 will need to sell well based mainly on the quality of it's game and the fact it has wireless built in (the extra cost of the xbox wireless adaptor is a lot less than the price difference between the PS3 and Xbox).

southwell
15-12-2008, 11:49
The problem is that while Blu Ray is undoubtedly the most successful form of HD Disc, even Blu Ray is not selling well..
O, no, not at those prices anyway, but at least it's already capable when the prices do eventually fall. If i really like a film im quite happy paying around £12 for it in HD, it just takes a couple of weeks after release date before any deals come up.

icestar2
15-12-2008, 11:50
Hmmm poorly written article tbh. Saying things like "The PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console" is not a fair comment anymore. Last year yes this year simply no.

Also ok I agree in part with the following statment "The PS3's big bonus is its ability to double as a Blu-Ray player. Too bad no one seems to care about hi-def DVDs. The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50"." as blu-ray's not really big yet but to say the diffrence is not noticable under 50" is a lie as I notice it on a 32" and a 42" TV. Maybe I just have an eye for detail who knows.

Its not all bad but the article looks like it should of been written last year with the writter still banging on about the same things that Sony was slanted for last year but have made great progress with now.

Damien
15-12-2008, 11:54
There was a similar sentiment a while back, that along with the recession and the Xbox price cuts the PS3 is a less attractive console for people at the moment. Someone from Game ( think it was them) say that since September they have been experiencing a drop in sales for the PS3.

The PS3 had managed to recover from a poor start a while back, Sony need to do it again. They really need a price drop.

icestar2
15-12-2008, 11:58
The PS3 had managed to recover from a poor start a while back, Sony need to do it again. They really need a price drop.

They are always going to need a price drop with the 360 just dropping and dropping but with them already taking a hit with each console sold its unlikely to happen anytime soon. There are rumours of a price cut early next year but this year I dont think there is a chance tbh.

I have also read abit about some PS2 owners waiting for BC before they upgrade so if Sony can finish the Emulation software they are meant to be working on and release it that may drive sales up. Then again with the PS2 still doing ok will they wait for a while before doing this ? Who knows it is Sony after all lol.

Damien
15-12-2008, 12:08
Its not all bad but the article looks like it should of been written last year with the writter still banging on about the same things that Sony was slanted for last year but have made great progress with now.

I think the problems they had last year are returning because of the cost difference between the PS3 and the 360. Although the console is better, is it better enough to warrant the difference? Especially when the 360 has added more exclusive titles as well.

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They are always going to need a price drop with the 360 just dropping and dropping but with them already taking a hit with each console sold its unlikely to happen anytime soon. There are rumours of a price cut early next year but this year I dont think there is a chance tbh.

I have also read abit about some PS2 owners waiting for BC before they upgrade so if Sony can finish the Emulation software they are meant to be working on and release it that may drive sales up. Then again with the PS2 still doing ok will they wait for a while before doing this ? Who knows it is Sony after all lol.

Yeah, it is difficult for them. Microsoft did very well with their plan for the 360, get it out first and make it cheaper. Sony are also unlucky in that a lot of their business depends on the Playstation these days and Microsoft can afford to make a loss on the Xbox as their plan is to dominate very long term.

icestar2
15-12-2008, 12:14
I think the problems they had last year are returning because of the cost difference between the PS3 and the 360. Although the console is better, is it better enough to warrant the difference? Especially when the 360 has added more exclusive titles as well.

This year the PS3 has had a very good amout of exclusive games and thats why I was saying that they are still using last years complaints.

I think its very unfair for the excuse that PS3 has no exclusives or no good exclusives or whatever to still be used. Its just the console does not have the same size install base as 360 so its never going to move as much on its exclusives but to say it does not have any worth it is insane after the year the PS3 has had (games wise).

Damien
15-12-2008, 12:18
This year the PS3 has had a very good amout of exclusive games and thats why I was saying that they are still using last years complaints.

I think its very unfair for the excuse that PS3 has no exclusives or no good exclusives or whatever. Its just the console does not have the same size install base as 360 so its never going to move as much on its exclusives but to say it does not have any worth it is insane after the year the PS3 has had.

I think it was badly phrased, but it has less on the 360. In the end it's about what will make people hand over their money, not about what is fair. The 360 is more competitive at the moment, people are less willing to spend a lot of money on a console and the PS3 is just too pricey for a lot of people. They main draw, Blu-Ray, may not be enough for people.

Like I said, it's last years complaints returned because people are less willing to spend a lot.

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I disagree it's the console at fault, I think it's the price + recession

icestar2
15-12-2008, 12:27
I think it was badly phrased, but it has less on the 360. In the end it's about what will make people hand over their money, not about what is fair. The 360 is more competitive at the moment, people are less willing to spend a lot of money on a console and the PS3 is just too pricey for a lot of people. They main draw, Blu-Ray, may not be enough for people.

Like I said, it's last years complaints returned because people are less willing to spend a lot.

---------- Post added at 11:18 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ----------

I disagree it's the console at fault, I think it's the price + recession

I agree with what you are saying Damien and when I say I think its unfair I dont mean the competition I mean that the writter of the article was unfair to say that the PS3 has no good exclusive because its simply not true anymore.

The PS3 certainly could do with a price cut now its just unfortunate that its unlikely to happen anytime soon.

And as I said with my other point about high Def not being noticable on a less than 50" screen would you agree with this ? dont know if you've watched a blu-ray or a HD-DVD but myself I really do notice it and these are just some of the reason's I was disagreeing with the article.

At the end of the day I understand that the PS3 need's to do more even now and my agrument is not that of the PS3 is doing fine or me trying to defend the PS3. My argument is with the way the article was written and I would of had the same opinion if similair was written about the 360.

Seems that people are to quick to listen to hear say and write things that simply are not true rather than looking into the facts and then writting an article with some substance.

Damien
15-12-2008, 12:45
I agree with what you are saying Damien and when I say I think its unfair I dont mean the competition I mean that the writter of the article was unfair to say that the PS3 has no good exclusive because its simply not true anymore.

The PS3 certainly could do with a price cut now its just unfortunate that its unlikely to happen anytime soon.

And as I said with my other point about high Def not being noticable on a less than 50" screen would you agree with this ? dont know if you've watched a blu-ray or a HD-DVD but myself I really do notice it and these are just some of the reason's I was disagreeing with the article.

At the end of the day I understand that the PS3 need's to do more even now and my agrument is not that of the PS3 is doing fine or me trying to defend the PS3. My argument is with the way the article was written and I would of had the same opinion if similair was written about the 360.

Seems that people are to quick to listen to hear say and write things that simply are not true rather than looking into the facts and then writting an article with some substance.

Yeah, I agree with all of that.

Not sure about Hi-Def. But I notice the difference on my 17inch monitor between Hi-Def and standard but I am close to it.

Stuart
15-12-2008, 13:03
I think it was badly phrased, but it has less on the 360. In the end it's about what will make people hand over their money, not about what is fair. The 360 is more competitive at the moment, people are less willing to spend a lot of money on a console and the PS3 is just too pricey for a lot of people. They main draw, Blu-Ray, may not be enough for people.

Like I said, it's last years complaints returned because people are less willing to spend a lot.

---------- Post added at 11:18 ---------- Previous post was at 11:16 ----------

I disagree it's the console at fault, I think it's the price + recession

I have to admit, I don't think the PS3 is at fault either. It is a fine console. It's just that in these times, people seem to be looking to "make do" more (thus DVD is still outselling Blu Ray), and where they are upgrading, they are looking at the three consoles, and seem to be coming to the conclusion that the xbox and Wii are a better deal. I suspect it's not that the Xbox or Wii are better consoles (they aren't), but the fact that a lot of the big game franchises (your Need For Speeds, Fifa games etc) are available for at least the 360 and PS3.

If Sony were able to reduce the price a bit and/or licence a few more franchises, they would have more of a fighting chance. People wishing to "make do" more does seem to be extending to Consoles. The extra features the PS3 has over the Xbox may not be worth anything to them (if they aren't looking to install a HD DVD player or wish to use a wired network for instance), so they may come to the conclusion they are looking at a console that costs as much as a cheap PC but does a lot less. Then they see the Wii (with it's funky control systems and party games) and the Xbox 360 costing a lot less..

pabscars
15-12-2008, 13:16
reminds me of the old betamax days, sorry to digress

popper
15-12-2008, 13:26
unlike the rest of you, i dont care about the games or the BR as such, i care about its streaming HD LAN capabilitys and on that score, all the web is geared toward that PS3 playback OC, the 360 comes or reather came in a clear second on peoples radars.

if a PS3 price cut came this year or early next, its far to late now anyway...

the moneys been spent on the arcade 360 as that just about works for HD streaming, its a lot more work to get your AVC/H.264 content playing in real HD modes, but that will change as far more people buy the cheap and chearful arcade360 and upgrade it week on week as time goes by.

the lads already had his HD fitted a few weeks after the main console was got for the birthday for instance.

i advocate and will probably get the PS3 one day IF the price drops some day, as i know its strengths, and follow the PPC codebase for a very long time now,but the current price totally lets it down for any one looking to use it for HD streaming today, or i would have got one of my own by now, and installed PPC linux on there for non gaming ,HD video streaming use to the HD tv etc....somethng the 360 doesnt let you do OC, but so be it at this far lower price.

put simply MS finally did a master stroke,we didnt really care to get one right now, but they reduced the price at the right time, it kind of works for HD streaming in a fashion better if you use it with TVersity rather than MP11 etc, and people will buy it on mass this year for that reduced price alone, and so later start buying the games , paying the online charges and producing HD content to that lower grade HD video format....for their own personal use etc.

PS3 lost the cristmas round this year and thats been clear ever since the new priced arcade360 came out, and thats comeing from a PS3 PPC/CELL advocate.

Hom3r
15-12-2008, 22:45
I have a PSP & a PS2, I was looking at getting a PS3 but I wanted one which would play my PS2 games, but thes BC machine were very hard to get hold of and even if you did they cost a dam lotta cash.

After taking to the guys I work with the large majority had the 360, so I went for the 360.

Sony are shooting themselves for not supplying them with BC, and selling the for over £100 more the the 360

SB_07
15-12-2008, 23:33
Everywhere i've read this article people have commented saying "whoever wrote this is obviously a 360 fanboy"

lol yeah ok.

icestar2
15-12-2008, 23:47
Everywhere i've read this article people have commented saying "whoever wrote this is obviously a 360 fanboy"

lol yeah ok.

Thats probably because its poorly written.

sk8er_boi6000
16-12-2008, 00:47
Sony made quiet a few mistakes and bad decisions during the design phase of the PS3 and it is coming back to bite them now. They are already selling the consoles at a loss, and they just cannot compete on price terms with Microsoft. They won Round 2 with PS2 vs Xbox but in Round 3 they simply cannot compete. Shame really, as there is a lot of hardware power in the PS3, but for my money it simply lacks quality, and the "wow" factor beyond the fact it can play BR disks

Tezcatlipoca
17-12-2008, 22:25
# The differences between Blu-Ray and DVD are hard to see on a TV less than 50".

Utter nonsense. Has the writer ever actually watched a BD?

The PS3 just doesn't have any must-have titles exclusive to the console.

True at launch, & for a while after (like the 360, really). But not anymore. Has the writer ever actually played any PS3 games?

And I think it's got at least as many decent exclusives as the 360 had at the same point in its life.


I think CNN are right about the price, though. It is too high, especially when you consider how insanely cheap the 360 is now (sigh, I got my original 20GB Premium at launch for £280, with no games...now you can get a 60GB Premium for £100 less than that together with Gears 1 & 2..., LOL always the way).

icestar2
17-12-2008, 23:12
especially when you consider how insanely cheap the 360 is now (sigh, I got my original 20GB Premium at launch for £280, with no games...now you can get a 60GB Premium for £100 less than that together with Gears 1 & 2..., LOL always the way).

Feel for me then Matt who bought a PS3 at launch in a bundle with 2 games. Think I ended up paying around £500 or something :cry::cry:

Also that was my point the person who wrote the article seemed to be using old information. It was almost a re-write of an old article tbh.

Agreed about the price to but I just dont see that changing for a while yet.

RealDiamond
17-12-2008, 23:20
Did he also forget about the 160GB model thats forcing down the 80GB price in the US...( limited edition out side the US )
you can get the 160GB in the UK for £330 and thats with 2 games plus 4 PSN titles to download for free worth £50...( included in the bundle )
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/12/35.jpg

Tezcatlipoca
17-12-2008, 23:27
Feel for me then Matt who bought a PS3 at launch in a bundle with 2 games. Think I ended up paying around £500 or something :cry::cry:

Also that was my point the person who wrote the article seemed to be using old information. It was almost a re-write of an old article tbh.

Agreed about the price to but I just dont see that changing for a while yet.



£500? Ouch!

I've read rumours of a price cut for next Spring.

Also read something in the new EDGE by an analyst for "Screen-Digest", talking about the videogame market & the credit crunch. Didn't paint things for the PS3 as bleakly as the rather crappy CNN article did.

videodj
18-12-2008, 00:29
I have both xbox 360 and PS3 and I have to say my PS3 only gets used for the odd blu-ray and for streaming media. I prefer gaming on the xbox 360 and have to say I prefer the exclusive game titles on Xbox, such as Fable, Mass Effect and Gears of War. The on line play is better on the xbox and I know a lot more people with xbox's rather than PS3's.

I have noticed that the games I've played on PS3 only seem to be in 720p.

As for exclusive PS3 titles, can some one enlighten me as to these wonderful titles? The only one that springs to mind is Little Big Planet, if that's it I can think of a hundred reasons not to buy a PS3, including the price! Oops, forgot Grand Tourismo, but then it get's put back so often, there'll be a new console out, before it finally gets released!

Plus Parents buying for xmas are going to go for the cheaper option (at 50% less), for a muc more fun console.

Both have good and bad points, but if your a hardcore gamer, the 360 wins hands down. If there wasn't a choice, I'd rather go without if the PS3 was all there was to offer.

Tezcatlipoca
19-12-2008, 00:22
I've got a 360, a PS3, & a Wii.

The 360 & the PS3 get used fairly equally for gaming...maybe a bit more in the 360's favour... The PS3 also gets used a lot for playing Blu-rays, DVDs, & streaming videos.

The Wii...gets dusted each week.

Definitely agree with you that online play on the 360 is better. Although PSN is free, & has been improving, the overall XBL experience & service still wins hands-down IMO. Sony should have given the PS3 "in-game XMB" from launch, should have given it cross-game invites & cross-game chat (neither of which it has yet), & should have made PSN a truly unified & integrated service like XBL is.


I do think the PS3 has some excellent exclusives though. LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted, & Metal Gear Solid 4 would be my top three, followed by Resistance 1 & 2, Heavenly Sword, & maybe Motorstorm.

The 360... Gears 1 & 2, Fable II, Mass Effect, Halo 3. Maybe Dead Rising, Forza & PGR.

Don't forget that the 360 didn't really have any truly top-notch exclusives at launch either, or for a while after. I bought mine with PDZ (lame) & PGR3 (fun at first but got boring). Sod all else around at launch IIRC. No Gears 'till a year after launch, no Halo 3 & Mass Effect 'till around two years after launch, no Fable II or Gears 2 'till three years after launch.


Multiplatform games... I always buy the 360 version, 'cos of XBL & Achievements.



I think that this time last year, the PS3 was quite competitive with the 360. £300 for the 40GB was pretty good IMO, compared to £230-250 for the 20GB Premium 360 or £280-300 for the Elite.

Now though, it really doesn't compare so well IMO. £300 for the 80GB PS3 versus well over £100 less than that for a 60GB Premium 360... If you want the built-in Blu-ray playback, the WiFi, etc., then wicked. If not, then it seems a bit high...


Sony needs to cut the price.


They also need to stop treating their best market like crap. Europe's got more PS3s than Japan & North America, yet SCEE seem to me to treat us pretty poorly. Perhaps they're complacent...

Damien
01-01-2009, 02:11
Much better article on the situation, agrees with the problem Sony is having as well as containing more grim reading for the PS3 as it actually sold less than last year while the other consoles sold more.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123050978162738293.html#articleTabs%3Darticle

(http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2008/dec/30/sony-ps3-costs)

Uncle Peter
01-01-2009, 03:26
There's still a fair bit of time for Sony to gain some ground as it doesn't look like Microsoft are in a hurry to replace the 360 just yet. Now that is if there's some decent, exclusive IP lined up to shift the hardware. Gran Turismo 5 springs to mind but it seems that Polyphony have been farting around wondering what day of the week it is for the past 3-4 years with nothing tangible to show! I would have expected Sony to beat them into action before now.

deathtrap3000
01-01-2009, 03:40
I cant wait for GT5. Well I can because Ive only played the others for a grand total of 5mins. But its defo on my list of must have PS3 games (can I call it a list if it only has one game on it?).

My PS3 list

Must have released games:
I cant think of any must haves, but I would like LittleBigPlanet

Must have upcoming exclusives:
Gran Turismo 5

nothing else makes me look twice
edit: oh maybe Killzone 2. The first was a pile of steaming poo but the second sounds like it wont repeat the failure of the first.

360 Must Haves:
It would take too long to list them all.

360 must have upcoming exclusives:
Halo: ODST
Wow that list is a lot shorter than I thought it would be.

Oh and I buy any multiplats on the 360 because thats my console of choice.

lol and dont forget the wii
Sitting there covered in dust.

Still the PS3 can catch up. It will sell a load if it just drops that £299.99 rrp.

Tezcatlipoca
01-01-2009, 15:28
Still the PS3 can catch up. It will sell a load if it just drops that £299.99 rrp.


Yup. I don't think the PS3 is worse off than the 360 for exclusives, the games are there - it's just too expensive now compared to the competition.

300 quid really is too much, when you can get a 60GB 360 bundle for under 200.

As the link Damien posted pointed out, the Blu-ray playback is not such a big thing anymore, now that the price of standalone players has fallen. No longer is the PS3 the best cheap BD player available.


Sony need to cut the price, sharpish...

icestar2
01-01-2009, 16:14
Hmmm for me there are plenty of exclusive games I'm looking forward to on both consoles this year.

PS3 Exclusives I want are -

Killzone 2 (Hope it is as good as its being made out)
Uncharted 2 (anything like the first I will love it)
Heavy Rain (anything like farenheit then again amazing)
GT5 (really enjoyed prologue so full game should be amazing if they ever get it out lol)
God Of War 3 (Never played any of the others but looks good)
Infamous (Again looks brilliant but will have to wait and see)
MAG (Has huge potential)
Boarderlands (not much info but hoping its good lol)

Xbox 360 Exclusives I want are -

Alan Wake (Been waiting for this game for so long. Looks amazing)
Alpha Protocol (Again looks like it could be good)
Theres probably others but I cant think of them from the top of my head. I sure I have probably missed some great RPG's well I hope so anyway :)

Other games none exclusive I am intrested in are -

Resident Evil 5
FF13
Prototype
Fear 2
Velvet Assassin
I Am Alive
Fightnight Round 4
Street Fighter 4
Godfarther 2
Silent hill home comming

Charlie_Bubble
02-01-2009, 11:13
Someone on the xbox forums made a post, which lists many of the new games coming out for the 360 this year and has some links to many trailers/images of new Xbox games: LINK (http://forums.xbox.com/24765333/ShowPost.aspx)

Damien
02-01-2009, 11:49
I think Sony made quite a few mistakes, ultimately though I think those mistakes were a result of a misplaced confidence/arrogance regarding the strength of the 'Playstation' brand. They were willing to wait and ship a more expensive console because they thought the vast majority of gamers associated themselves and the games they like to play with the Playstation.

Obviously though, the 360 had a strong line-up for a good amount of time before the PS3 came up and the brand identity of the xbox also rose. So it was a much smaller amount of people who waited for the Playstation simply because it was a Playstation.

They do need to cut the price, drastically.

mr,m
02-01-2009, 12:09
Totally OT
But for some crazy reason,ok a bit of nostalgia,I bought an old mega drive and a box full of games for £40 just before Xmas.I can tell you none of the kids at the house showed the slightest interest in our 360 or wii.
The visitors and kids over Christmas were fighting over the old Sega,it went down a storm and was great to play Sonic again,as it was!
Forget all this fancy stuff and get back to the good old days,nothing complicated,just plain old FUN.

icestar2
02-01-2009, 17:02
Totally OT
But for some crazy reason,ok a bit of nostalgia,I bought an old mega drive and a box full of games for £40 just before Xmas.I can tell you none of the kids at the house showed the slightest interest in our 360 or wii.
The visitors and kids over Christmas were fighting over the old Sega,it went down a storm and was great to play Sonic again,as it was!
Forget all this fancy stuff and get back to the good old days,nothing complicated,just plain old FUN.

I had a conversation the other day about a similair to this. I would love to see more classics like this released wearther in be on the PSN store or the Live store.

I would love and 100% buy if they remade sonic in HD and released it like they did with lemming and I'd also buy a new sonic game 100% if they went back to 2d. I lost all intrest in the sonic games since it went 3d.

Bring back Sonic ! The REAL Sonic !

Stephen
02-01-2009, 18:24
I had a conversation the other day about a similair to this. I would love to see more classics like this released wearther in be on the PSN store or the Live store.

I would love and 100% buy if they remade sonic in HD and released it like they did with lemming and I'd also buy a new sonic game 100% if they went back to 2d. I lost all intrest in the sonic games since it went 3d.

Bring back Sonic ! The REAL Sonic !
Again OT but there is a proper Sega Megadrive Ultimate collection coming for the PS3 and 360 later on this year. I think I read that there will be 40+ games on the disc. Link to story
(http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/18991/20015/Sega-mega-drive-ultimate-collection.phtml)
I have both 360 and PS3 and mostly play on the 360 for the achievments and better online gaming. My PS3 is mostly a Blu Ray at the moment but I am trying to use it more. But all multi platform games are bought for the 360 apart from the latest WWE game which I got for the PS3 as I managed to get it cheap.

mr,m
02-01-2009, 19:09
LOL,whilst on the subject,have been playing with my beloved Mega Drive,how about these,upgaraded,but please keep them as fun and simple as they were!
Chase HQ (best ever spectrum game)
Casle of illusion
Desert Strike
Ecoo the dolphin
Dizzy
Ghouls and Ghosts
Golden axe
Bomber man (great on Atari ST)
Micro machines (original style please)
Rainbow islands
The fantastic Road rash!
The incredible SPEEDBALL,Nothing comes close!!
Streets of rage.
So many wonderful games just waiting to be re-released,but please just do them as they were!!!

icestar2
02-01-2009, 20:38
I had a conversation the other day about a similair to this. I would love to see more classics like this released wearther in be on the PSN store or the Live store.

I would love and 100% buy if they remade sonic in HD and released it like they did with lemming and I'd also buy a new sonic game 100% if they went back to 2d. I lost all intrest in the sonic games since it went 3d.

Bring back Sonic ! The REAL Sonic !

Lol I just read that back and noticed the amount of mistake's I made. Sorry :(

mr,m
03-01-2009, 11:03
Again OT but there is a proper Sega Megadrive Ultimate collection coming for the PS3 and 360 later on this year. I think I read that there will be 40+ games on the disc. Link to story
(http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/18991/20015/Sega-mega-drive-ultimate-collection.phtml)
I have both 360 and PS3 and mostly play on the 360 for the achievments and better online gaming. My PS3 is mostly a Blu Ray at the moment but I am trying to use it more. But all multi platform games are bought for the 360 apart from the latest WWE game which I got for the PS3 as I managed to get it cheap.

That would have been a great Christmas release,what a missed chance to introduce these superb games to the youngsters.My nephew got a ps3 for Christmas,no doubting it's coolness,but he was glued to my new/old Sega.
Even the loading sreen SSSEEEEEGGGAAAAA brought a lump to my throat.Happy days,off to find me a snes now,JOY!!:cool:

Cronus
05-01-2009, 20:38
Interesting debate...i also have both and my opinions are....

Yes Sony did cock up badly with the release and arrogant assumption that the fan base would buy no matter the price...they have been soundly beaten by Microsoft in the present gen battle. However i don't see the doom and gloom that all these attention seeking hacks perpetuate in the press...yes it's expensive and they are making a loss on each one sold and maybe the majority of people aren't that interested in BD yet...but they will as the digital age becomes more digital and high def becomes the standard. The PS3 BD player IS the best player on the market for the simple virtue that it is one of the few players that is fully compliant with the latest BD revisions (which i think are at 2.0) and can always be fully compliant through dowloadable firmware updates.
Also the PS3 has a far better processor than the Xbox and Sony have spent a ton on getting it into the PS3, apparently it's a complete pig to program for so it's been difficult to get developers onside and really push the tittles out..however they are getting more used to the cell processor and i truly believe we will start to see some great games come out for it, it's a processor that Sony will stick with in the rumored PS4 so once they get it right on the PS3 most of the hard work is done...the Xbox has all this to come in it's next gen Xbox '720' if the rumors of going completely in-house with hardware development are true. If Microsoft make any big changes to the processing end of their next console it could well be a role reversal of what we have now...pure speculation i know.

As for me, all my friends have Xbox 360's so to play online with them i needed to get one. If i'm looking at getting a new game i look to see what it's online gaming capabilities are and if it's one that me and my friends will play, if it's not and it's available on the PS3 then i buy it in that format

Damien
05-01-2009, 20:49
However i don't see the doom and gloom that all these attention seeking hacks perpetuate in the press...yes it's expensive and they are making a loss on each one sold and maybe the majority of people aren't that interested in BD yet...but they will as the digital age becomes more digital and high def becomes the standard. The PS3 BD player IS the best player on the market for the simple virtue that it is one of the few players that is fully compliant with the latest BD revisions (which i think are at 2.0) and can always be fully compliant through dowloadable firmware updates.

It's not really the best anymore, there are at least two better players on the market which can be updated. One of them, the S350 is cheaper than the PS3 as well

NEONKNIGHT
05-01-2009, 21:09
Interestingly (and kick the PS3 while its down) the Xbox brand has had its best Christmas ever, that's according to this article (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=205242).

Can't really blame M$ for spouting this, seems just like yesterday that Sony did the same thing....:D

icestar2
05-01-2009, 21:13
Interestingly (and kick the PS3 while its down) the Xbox brand has had its best Christmas ever, that's according to this article (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=205242).

Can't really blame M$ for spouting this, seems just like yesterday that Sony did the same thing....:D

Its not surprising with it now being the cheapest current gen console on the market now. Gotta give it to M$ they made all the right moves this time round. Lets see what 09 holds for us all :)

Stuart
05-01-2009, 22:30
It's not really the best anymore, there are at least two better players on the market which can be updated. One of them, the S350 is cheaper than the PS3 as well

And bear in mind that two of the potential major players in HiDef (Microsoft and Apple) are looking at online rather than disc based distribution as, apparently is Samsung.

icestar2
05-01-2009, 22:40
And bear in mind that two of the potential major players in HiDef (Microsoft and Apple) are looking at online rather than disc based distribution as, apparently is Samsung.

I still think this is way off tbh. People want to own the product. You may want to take a DVD to your friends house etc etc.

I just dont see digital distribution taking off in the way they would like it to for a long time.

EDIT** Dont know about the rest of the world but it seems Blu-ray is not doing badley over here in the UK.

The Blu-ray message is steadily creeping in consumer conscience, it seems. Why? Because sales of Blu-ray films in the UK rose by almost 400 per cent last month, compared to the same period in 2007.

According to figures from industry body the British Video Association (BVA), almost 1.5m Blu-ray films were sold in the UK during December 2008. Batman flick The Dark Knight took the top spot, with 281,000 copies sold during its first three weeks on sale in Blighty.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/01/05/christmas_2008_bluray_sales/

SB_07
06-01-2009, 00:20
Times are tough all over right now, but times are especially tough at Sony. They've only just announced plans to axe thousands of employees, and already The Times reckon things are about to get worse.

While Sony are all "no we're not" on the speculation/leak, The Times insist that next month, Sony will not only announce the closure of several factories in Japan, but will go so far as to shut down some of their "major divisions".

http://kotaku.com/5123292/sony-to-close-major-divisions-next-month