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whydoIneedatech
16-10-2008, 22:09
Look at the Virgin sign on the top of this modem.
Is this the new modem for 50mb.
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1167/50mb11fv9.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4263/50mb41vv5.gif
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8256/50mb31yh5.gif
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7034/50mb21wn3.gif
xspeedyx
16-10-2008, 22:25
rather sexy tbh
I can't wait to see the adverts for this.
will it be more concentrated on the smooth and sexy modem, or will it be the 50Mb?
That is the 50MB modem. I saw it at work today. Looks damn sexy for a black plastic box, lol.
xspeedyx
16-10-2008, 22:35
I can't wait to see the adverts for this.
will it be more concentrated on the smooth and sexy modem, or will it be the 50Mb?
Come on bolt will be on there with the new modem and getting paid millions for it lol
whydoIneedatech
16-10-2008, 22:47
Come on bolt will be on there with the new modem and getting paid millions for it lol
As in http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...ia.virginmedia (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/aug/21/olympicsandthemedia.virginmedia)
That is the 50MB modem. I saw it at work today. Looks damn sexy for a black plastic box, lol.
Better than the bricks they used at the start of the trials thats for sure.
Impz2002
16-10-2008, 23:33
looks niiiiiiccccceeeee :)
It is very very nice (and all the status lights glow blue).
Though as it is new technology, it is bigger than the current VM 256 modem (but no bigger than the older 100/120 modems)
General Angel
17-10-2008, 00:28
Modem looks tasty
Do 20mbit customers automatically get upgraded to 50mbit with no extra cost? And if so, will there be a cost for having to get this new modem or will they just send that out?
Or is none of this known yet?
No, 50meg will be a new tier and new pricing circa £50/month. There's a massive thread on here covering everything you ever wanted to know about 50meg and more besides.
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33631817-50mbit-rollout-has-started.html
Wow. I can't believe I answered that without even a hint of sarcasm.
p.s. the modem looks very nice indeed. Pity I can't justify upgrading to 50meg.
Do 20mbit customers automatically get upgraded to 50mbit with no extra cost? And if so, will there be a cost for having to get this new modem or will they just send that out?
Or is none of this known yet?
Every time i have asked CS about an automatic upgrade from 20 to 50 they have said that its not a upgrade but a whole new tier.
rather sexy tbh
that may be so , but ill take function over form any day, after all do you really even look at the current modem (assuming its even in view) other than to do a quick check that the 4 lights are on and data is flowing ?.
iv said this before and ill say it again here, all the current ambit modems for DS3 are ONLY certified to Bronze level so that means NO upstream bonding so your limited to one channel , its using the newest DS2.0B format so it gets a boost OC, and the speeds VM will offer you are far lower than even that single channel top max.
but it does mean they are just trading in the old DS1.1 problems and getting a slighty better ability to offer slightly better single channel uploads IF they see fit to buy the latest DS2.0B Bronze cetified cards for the other end of the wire.
regarding that modem, its STILL not made clear the EXACT model No thats inside the fancy plastic box (wobbly too like the sammy remot controller) , so what is it's Model No. exactly ?, and weres the data/errata PDF file(s)
as can bee seen below, it might be the http://www.ambitbroadband.com/na/index.php/products/product-detail/docsis-30-modem/
in the new plastic case, as that has two blank RJ45 case holes and the RJ45 connector is in the 3 space farest from the power connector/RJ45 we see in the fancy plastic case.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7034/50mb21wn3.gif
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/10/32.jpg
that kind of implys they have thought about a rather strange, but non the less welcome 1port WAN and 2 port LAN router/switch that can be used by the end users, IF these 2 missing rj45 connectors are on the PCB AND actually soldered onboard and activated in firmware.....AND internal http server pages ?
its strange that they had these (prototype ?) cases made with 3 rj45 port spaces, as all the off the shelf router/switch SOC chips i know of ,have at least 4 active ports you just bring to the edge of the PCB and solder a port on to, but any LAN router in new VM DS2.0b/3 CM CPE rented kit is welcome, IF THEY ACTIVATE IT for you the end user.
assuming the fancy case version above is the same SOC/PCB as this one OC, the supplyed PDF doesnt back this assumption/hope up OC :rolleyes: but it does give some interesting info.
keep in mind though your NTL255/VM250 on your end of the cable is DS2 compatable and has that ratified chipset, BUT VM didnt add in the required DS2 cards that your modems plug into at the other end of the wire, so as with the NTL255 just because these new DS3 ambit can do upto 1000Mhz doesnt mean it will ever be driven at that freq...
http://www.ambitbroadband.com/images/products/U10C035_Product_Brief.pdf
1GHz Downstream Tuner
�� Allows operators to increase the frequency spectrum,
enabling new value-added services.
IPv6 Support
�� IPv6 is the next generation of Internet Protocol and greatly
expands the number of Internet addresses that cable
operators may use, allowing them to provide subscribers with
more IP-based services.
Gigabit Ethernet
10/100/1000 Base-T Ethernet allows PCs to take advantage
of the increased speeds offered by channel bonding.
(except OC the chipset isnt certified for upstream bonding, not that that matter as this time or the mid term....)
no mention of Mutlcast capability though and thats a worry for long term services growth if VM go against spec and dont turn it on to your CPE desktop kit, you keep it there to look at the pritty blue lights i assume :D
Downstream
�� Frequency Range: 88MHz ~ 1002MHz
�� Modulation: 64 / 256 QAM
�� Maximum Data Rate: 160Mbps
�� RF Input/Output Power: - 15 to +15 dBmV
�� Input Impedance: 75
�� Channel Bandwidth: 6 MHz
Upstream
�� Frequency Range: 5MHz ~ 42MHz
�� Modulation : QPSK, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128QAM (S-CDMA only)
�� Maximum Data Rate: 120Mbps
�� RF Output Power:A-TDMA (32/64QAM) +17 to 51dBmV
A TDMA (8/16 QAM) +17 to 52dBmV
QPSK +17 to 55dBmV
S-CDMA +17 to 53dBmV
�� DOCSIS 3.0/2.0/1.x Compliant
they have made pre-DS3 kit that has these 4 ports on them before OC so VM could buy such 4 port CMs if they choose to and Ambit are manufacturing real DS3 +4port rj45 CMs
http://www.ambitbroadband.com/na/index.php/products/product-detail/channel-bonded-modem/
http://www.ambitbroadband.com/images/products/U10C020_b_sm.jpg
p.s. the modem looks very nice indeed. Pity I can't justify upgrading to 50meg.
Doesn't the nice, smooth, shiny, slippery, sexy modem, justify why you should upgrade?
It's easy to clean you know and is stain resistant :)
They will probably get Uma to advertise it right next to her cleavage. "you know you want it boys, it comes with a box of tissues" :D
The tissues are to keep it looking shiny.
Doesn't the nice, smooth, shiny, slippery, sexy modem, justify why you should upgrade?
It's easy to clean you know and is stain resistant :)
They will probably get Uma to advertise it right next to her cleavage. "you know you want it boys, it comes with a box of tissues" :D
The tissues are to keep it looking shiny.
:D NO its not, it keeps rocking about as you Mr sheen it :shocked:
:D NO its not, it keeps rocking about as you Mr sheen it :shocked:
Too much information! :D
Zhadnost
19-10-2008, 09:47
http://www.ambitbroadband.com/images/products/U10C035_b_lg.jpg
that kind of implys they have thought about a rather strange, but non the less welcome 1port WAN and 2 port LAN router/switch that can be used by the end users, IF these 2 missing rj45 connectors are on the PCB AND actually soldered onboard and activated in firmware.....AND internal http server pages ?
Although there's no mention of it in the spec. To me, that doesn't look like 3 x RJ-45 ports. Maybe a pair of FXS ports and an ethernet port.
whydoIneedatech
19-10-2008, 11:39
Here is a nice link taken from Digitalspy.
http://www.djchrisroberts.com/main.jpg
Welshchris
19-10-2008, 17:02
I think we are gonna have MAJOR problems with these modems if they have an inbuilt router. Their netgear routers that uses their own firmware they have done something to it which stops people using peer to peer as the router resets itself every few mins and connection drops but this also has an affect on Legal peer to peer like BBC Iplayer etc and it also drops out using FTP. This is a known problem and many people have reported it on the Virgin Newsgroup and if u google it, many more will come up.
chickendippers
09-11-2008, 16:30
I don't understand why it isn't a modem/router. I've helped plenty of technology novices set up their VM connection and the separate components really confuse people. I would have thought this a perfect opportunity to change things up and reduce their costs (surely a modem router is cheaper than two separate devices, one of which is sent by courier?)
whydoIneedatech
09-11-2008, 19:56
I don't understand why it isn't a modem/router. I've helped plenty of technology novices set up their VM connection and the separate components really confuse people. I would have thought this a perfect opportunity to change things up and reduce their costs (surely a modem router is cheaper than two separate devices, one of which is sent by courier?)
No it will be 2 separate devices as not everyone wants a router.
Steve-o||[^]
13-11-2008, 12:57
that may be so , but ill take function over form any day, after all do you really even look at the current modem (assuming its even in view) other than to do a quick check that the 4 lights are on and data is flowing ?.
What he said!
My 256 resides in the bottom of an ickle 'comm's rack' passing bits to, and receiving bits from, my firewall; disallowing me public R-O access via SNMP and warming up the cupboard. So as long as it keeps doing that I don't much care for how curvaceous, glossy or cool it looks while doing so. :)
And modems with build in routers, ewwwww. How hard can it be to plug in a dedicated routing device into a dedicated 'modeming' device?
http://quad-cores.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/old_modem.jpg
yep looks nice
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