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tweetypie/8
28-09-2008, 21:42
which in your opinion is most effective on your car,[ 1 ] a crook lock type of thing or [ 2 ] a good chain and good lock,i have my car alarmed but i am thinking about a visible deterrent,any ideas ?.

Raistlin
28-09-2008, 21:48
Might be a good idea to a) speak to your insurance company and ask what they recommend (you may get a discount for using a certain type/product), and b) speak to your local Crime Prevention Officer, they may know which devices work the best as a deterrent.

Hom3r
28-09-2008, 21:53
Most of them are crap, even an alarm isn't much these days.

In my earlier cars I bought a device that went over the handbrake and gearstick locking it into 1st gear. Got it from Halfords I think.

homealone
28-09-2008, 21:57
In my opinion it depends how old the car is & whether it has an immobiliser fitted.

Our fairly recent (2007) Honda Civic doesn't have an alarm fitted as standard, but it does have an immobiliser & deadlocks - no-one will be able start the car or open the doors without the key-fob...

- however no alarm, immobiliser, krook-lock, chain or whatever will prevent anyone smashing a window & nicking something in the glove box or on the seat..

Scrubbs
28-09-2008, 22:12
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- however no alarm, immobiliser, krook-lock, chain or whatever will prevent anyone smashing a window & nicking something in the glove box or on the seat..


Like your tax disc or disabled card. :mad:
Although it is difficult to re-use /cash in the tax disc these days as it is on a database to match the car

Dai
28-09-2008, 22:12
Some of the simple crookloks can actually be useful to a thief. They give you a lever to break the steering lock. Then you just zap them with a screwdriver and the way is clear.

I believe the disklocks that just rotate freely around the steering wheel are pretty effective.

zing_deleted
28-09-2008, 22:20
a well trained savage pit bull terrier a partly open window and a bowl of water ;)

Enuff
28-09-2008, 22:21
I had this one (http://www.saxonind.co.uk/ultima.htm) recommended by a mate. It's really heavy and takes up too much room in the car.

I have this one now (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BASEBALL-BAT-STEERING-WHEEL-LOCK-BUY-2-FOR-ONLY-13-YES_W0QQitemZ150296820400QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 50296820400&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14). Easy on easy off, and it's handy to have at your side too. ;)

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tweetypie/8
28-09-2008, 22:43
Might be a good idea to a) speak to your insurance company and ask what they recommend (you may get a discount for using a certain type/product), and b) speak to your local Crime Prevention Officer, they may know which devices work the best as a deterrent.

good advice rob :tu: il'l give it a go thanks.

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In my opinion it depends how old the car is & whether it has an immobiliser fitted.

Our fairly recent (2007) Honda Civic doesn't have an alarm fitted as standard, but it does have an immobiliser & deadlocks - no-one will be able start the car or open the doors without the key-fob...

- however no alarm, immobiliser, krook-lock, chain or whatever will prevent anyone smashing a window & nicking something in the glove box or on the seat..

its a 2008 car and has the alarm and immobiliser fitted,i agree with what your saying but i would hope that if there was something visible they would p..s off and not bother with the hassle.

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a well trained savage pit bull terrier a partly open window and a bowl of water ;)

if only zing.;)

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I had this one (http://www.saxonind.co.uk/ultima.htm) recommended by a mate. It's really heavy and takes up too much room in the car.

I have this one now (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BASEBALL-BAT-STEERING-WHEEL-LOCK-BUY-2-FOR-ONLY-13-YES_W0QQitemZ150296820400QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item1 50296820400&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C 240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14). Easy on easy off, and it's handy to have at your side too. ;)

http://www.bestautobits.com/images/Steering_Wheel_Lock_Baseball.jpg

definitley dont fancy the first one,although looking at it i dont think a thief would either.;)

---------- Post added at 22:43 ---------- Previous post was at 22:40 ----------

Most of them are crap, even an alarm isn't much these days.

In my earlier cars I bought a device that went over the handbrake and gearstick locking it into 1st gear. Got it from Halfords I think.

i think zing has the right idea hom3r.;)

Kymmy
28-09-2008, 22:46
You could always go for my choice of an organic module for your existing car alarm
PS...his name is Timber ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/09/2.jpg

homealone
28-09-2008, 22:50
its a 2008 car and has the alarm and immobiliser fitted,i agree with what your saying but i would hope that if there was something visible they would p..s off and not bother with the hassle.

It is an interesting one - I have to admit I find the deadlocks quite re-assuring, as not being able to open the doors is a big deterrent, however if I were a car-thief & saw a 'visible deterrent' fitted I would wonder whether that was all there was preventing me nicking the car & might give it a go?

The majority of modern cars stolen, nowadays, are a result of people breaking into houses & nicking the keys - most 'professional' thieves will not even attempt a modern car, lately, as the UK has one of the highest standards of vehicle security in the world for new vehicles - older cars are another story & a coat hanger & screwdriver will probably still be all you need ;)

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You could always go for my choice of an organic module for your existing car alarm
PS...his name is Timber ;)


I like the roof-mounted 'battering ram' :D

v0id
29-09-2008, 01:44
How about parking your car in a garage

Graham M
29-09-2008, 07:30
How about parking your car in a garage

Umm not always possible?

tweetypie/8
29-09-2008, 07:51
You could always go for my choice of an organic module for your existing car alarm
PS...his name is Timber ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/09/2.jpg

he's cute kymmy.;)

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How about parking your car in a garage

have you one to spare ?.

Graham M
29-09-2008, 08:22
have you one to spare ?.

It'd be a bit of a drive from Belfast to Wolverhampton to park up and a long walk (and swim?) back home ;)

Enuff
29-09-2008, 08:33
You could always go for my choice of an organic module for your existing car alarm
PS...his name is Timber ;)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/09/2.jpg

I'd just have to send in my kitty... Hong Kong Pussy! :)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/09/3.jpg

Watching You
29-09-2008, 10:35
Living in inner city London, I have come to the conclusion that the best security devise is a private garage, ideally electrified but would not be able to get away with that. Nor would I be able to get away with a machine gun trained on the car, with a pack of wild pit-bulls, with steel implanted razor-sharp, teeth at the ready, waiting for some thief to steal it, (beats watching X Factor) apparently something to do with human rights.

Failing that I am not sure about some of the steering locks that sits on top of the steering wheel, as these can be cut off – OK there is a bit of a chunk missing from the steering wheel, as I have seen for myself, but thieves can easily replace a steering wheels if they are not looking to bas*t*dise your vehicle and use it run about in it.

Depending on where you live, I would suggest using a combination of various security devices, high and low visibility devices. Also, I always park in high visible locations, often in front of one of my neighbour’s house, who looks out the window when she hears someone at the vehicle and has my telephone number to call me. Doing just this reduced minor theft incidents by at least 50%, touch wood, it still works.

Please disregard the advice about leaving a dog in the vehicle in case you want the RSPA and other animal lovers on your case. As much as I wish I could do this.