View Full Version : Help!!! Tv Cable Box In My Garden!
Hi al lI have just joined sorry if this is in the wrong forum, But I have a bit of a problem.
Ok here goes, I am looking to move my fence about 1 meter along my back garden, I was about to go to the council to fill all the right forms etc etc, But I first got my house deeds and have seen that I all ready own the land where I want to move my fence its all OUT LINED in red!! My question is there is a big green tv cable box just behind my fence on my land, What do I do who can I call? i have heard of tv companys paying rent etc? Any 1 shed any light?
Thanks
Russ
Tricky ... but I think I'll move this thread to the installation issues forum. Welcome, anyway. :)
As for the Virgin Media street cabinet that turns out to be just inside your boundary, I think you could be in a little bit of trouble here. If it's been there for a long time it's possible that they have acquired a 'wayleave' - a kind of permission - for it to be there, simply because no-one has ever objected. For a wayleave to arise, it would need to be there for a certain length of time, but I don't know how long.
Even if no wayleave has arisen in this way, a previous owner of your house may have granted them a wayleave to put it there. If they did, then VM should be able to produce written proof of this.
You are probably going to have to involve a solicitor if you really want to get the thing moved. It is an expensive piece of equipment and they aren't going to shift it voluntarily.
mentalis
03-07-2008, 20:05
Charge them rent for using your land? :)
colin-bennett
03-07-2008, 20:23
Charge them rent for using your land? :)
I do not think it has been established that the cab is on some ones land that VM has not had the permission for...
aseriouscat
08-07-2008, 19:46
small claims court is the only way!
Nedkelly
08-07-2008, 20:05
You could ask someone from the council to come and have a look and for them to check for a wayleave application .Which would of been done when the plans where drawn up for the network .Did you own the house when the box was put there ? if you did not the prev owners could of approved this .Get everything checked before you proceed with court as i have seen many fail in the past :)
aseriouscat
08-07-2008, 20:28
NedKelly, how do you have two cable modems? Because I thought to provision a modem you need to pair it to a billing code on the new system. Do you pay twice for your internet because if you do that silly, or am I sooo soo wrong?
off topic, I know...
Nedkelly
08-07-2008, 22:39
:)PM sent
Hi guys!! I'm back, ok heres some pics showing what I mean! As you can see th ebox is now in my garden as I have move the fence 1 meter out.. I had to wait 10 weeks for COUNCIL APPROVAL ETC.. which I now have all stamped etc. Even thou it was my land.. The box at first before the fence was moved was hidden under loads of bushes and trees .. Any thoughts before I ring them??
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Thanks
Russ
OK, so if I understand this correctly ... you have built a conservatory, and as a consequence you have removed a hedge from your land and erected a 6ft fence exactly on your property boundary line.
With the hedge removed and the fence erected, it has become clear that your local Virgin Media Cable Street Cabinet has been located within the boundary of your property. You would rather it wasn't there, and would like advice on how to get it removed.
Well, as I said earlier, I think you need to contact a solicitor. It is going to be necessary to investigate this thoroughly, to establish whether the cableco that built your local network acquired permission to put the cabinet on what is now your property, and if not, whether they have acquired permission by default, with it having been there for a period of years without objection.
Property and access rights can be a legal minefied. If you're serious about establishing what your rights are here, and getting the resolution you want, then you really do need to bite the bullet, pay the fees and get professional help.
Hi there thats kind of right, the conservatory has always been there, I just moved my fence out 1 meter.. to my border.. and the box is now in side.. I dont mind keeping it in the garden if rent was paid ? ;)
Also the fence has always been that height! On th eother side used to be 1 meter wide all the way along my garden of bushes which I thought was a waste, so I applied to move my fence it took 10 weeks but I got the go ahead and now its all been done!
Just wondering what I should do, try to get it moved or say keep it there, pay rent, and let them come in any time they need to do any work on it?
Russ
OK, so if I understand this correctly ... you have built a conservatory, and as a consequence you have removed a hedge from your land and erected a 6ft fence exactly on your property boundary line.
With the hedge removed and the fence erected, it has become clear that your local Virgin Media Cable Street Cabinet has been located within the boundary of your property. You would rather it wasn't there, and would like advice on how to get it removed.
Well, as I said earlier, I think you need to contact a solicitor. It is going to be necessary to investigate this thoroughly, to establish whether the cableco that built your local network acquired permission to put the cabinet on what is now your property, and if not, whether they have acquired permission by default, with it having been there for a period of years without objection.
Property and access rights can be a legal minefied. If you're serious about establishing what your rights are here, and getting the resolution you want, then you really do need to bite the bullet, pay the fees and get professional help.
Raistlin
06-01-2009, 17:04
Just wondering what I should do, try to get it moved or say keep it there, pay rent, and let them come in any time they need to do any work on it?
The first thing you should do is engage a professional to ascertain the exact legal situation with regards to the box.
If it's legally there then you may have no option but to grant access to it if any work needs to be done, you may not have any rights to get it moved, and you might not be able to charge any rent.
If it's not legally supposed to be there then the above may (or may not) all be reversed.
You need a solicitor that specialises in this sort of thing, and you are going to need to pay for their advice.
Just wondering what I should do, try to get it moved or say keep it there, pay rent, and let them come in any time they need to do any work on it?
Russ
What you should do is get a solicitor. ;)
If they are entitled to keep it there, you won't get any rent out of them. If they are not, then you may lose more on the value of your house than you will evern gain in rent, simply by having an ugly box in your garden that VM will be entitled to have access to, whenever someone joins/leaves/needs a repair.
Seriously, get a solicitor to find out whether they have the right to have the box on your property, and if they do not, use the solicitor to persuade them to remove it, as soon as possible.
Thanks for your help,Getting a solicitor is no problem, Do you think I should ring some 1 from VM to come round to take a look to see what they say?
Russ
I wouldn't waste your time - even if you do get through to someone, and even if they do come to view it, they're not going to volunteer to move it, as it would be a very expensive job.
*sloman*
06-01-2009, 18:22
demand free BB ,Phone and TV for life that's a better deal!
Your signal levels must be perfect!
I'm with SKY lol!! Much better !
Russ
*sloman*
06-01-2009, 18:39
Go with the rent option then.
If your total sky package cost £50 ask for £50pm plus a 5% increase each year to cover future sky price rises.
A few streets away from me, some new low cost housing has gone up. The area distribution box that was on an access path is now sitting in the middle of someones front garden. Yes, someone has bought the house, complete with 3ft x 3ft green box and large access cover, and within 3 weeks of moving in they were having an install done. Crazy thing is the builders ripped out all the ducting so all their new neighbours now aren't serviceable !!
Maybe you should fit a turnstile, & charge entry each time an engineer comes out to the box?
I`d try & get it removed, unless you want engineers to be on your property at all hours. I wouldn't like to be sipping coffee in my conservatory with friends when workmen suddenly appear outside.
Its not an issue at the moment, but do you think you could sell the house with the box there?
Jonnymeg
06-01-2009, 19:38
It needs to be moved, that type of box will be in regular service and you would have to leave access 24/7. They will not make appointments with you.
With this in mind how will you be able to secure your property when you go out or on holiday?
Will your Mrs want hairy arsed techs walking through your garden when she is out sunbathing in her skimpy's ???
Moving one of these boxes is not as simple as you may think as ducting will need to be moved and cables replaced/extended which isn't easy or cheap.
Either way your in for a battle and i bet you that fence will have to come up/out while any work is done.
Go with the rent option then.
You say that as if it is a genuine option. It really, honestly isn't. The OP *has* to get that box moved, and he had better hope that the law is on his side and he can get it moved without having to pay VM for the privilege.
Wish it was in my garden as with this little chap they'd have a hard time getting access
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/12/3.jpg
*sloman*
06-01-2009, 21:46
That is one mean dog you have there Kymmy
what about this little devil
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2009/01/125.jpg
jungleguy
07-01-2009, 09:20
Is it definitely a VM cabinet?
I've never seen one like that, I know they vary from franchise to franchise, there should also be a pit in front of it.
Thats what we call a 'ped'. I know they call them other things in other areas. Good luck getting it moved!
That would so annoy me looking for that finding it behind your fence LOL.
sprattgraham
09-01-2009, 23:17
Hi guys!! I'm back, ok heres some pics showing what I mean! As you can see th ebox is now in my garden as I have move the fence 1 meter out.. I had to wait 10 weeks for COUNCIL APPROVAL ETC.. which I now have all stamped etc. Even thou it was my land.. The box at first before the fence was moved was hidden under loads of bushes and trees .. Any thoughts before I ring them??
http://www.wackychimp.com/uploads/boxgarden.JPG
Thanks
Russ
I've seen them around here but they normally control the street lights sometimes there not painted some are.
Contact Virgin Media on 01256 752000 and ask for complaints, explain to them and they should be able to send someone around to check.
VM cabs normally have some form of ID number on them, is there a manhole cover anywhere other side of the fence maybe, any sine that the road has been dug up to lay pipe work.
That is a ped, it has tap banks and telephone connection blocks (most of the time) inside. There is also a chance it is empty (yes it does happen).
0870 888 3116 is open cab line, they can help you aswell.
WHISTLED
10-01-2009, 11:19
Let us know how this one goes, quite interesting... Im not actually convinced its ours but im no expert
Either way your in for a battle and i bet you that fence will have to come up/out while any work is done.
Ditto, personally I wouldnt of done the fence near the cab as you can bet your bottom dollar it will have to come down if any work is done to remove it.
Jonnymeg
10-01-2009, 16:58
Let us know how this one goes, quite interesting... Im not actually convinced its ours but im no expert
It is.
Boxes vary from region to region.
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