View Full Version : Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Apathy Thread
Dephormation
07-06-2008, 07:29
For posters who are apathetic about Phorm.
For posters who are apathetic about Phorm.
Indeed.
Maybe thats what they want to happen ?
labougie
07-06-2008, 09:07
I would have replied with something stunning, but I couldn't be bothered
Anybody got any idea how to stay current with Phorm developments other than reading the new posts to the enormous thread?
I simply can't devote an hour every day...
Used the links, fired off the emails etc.
Got a reply from local MP Jack Straw well one of his lakkies stating that he had written to John Hutton sec of state for business and enterprise and regulatory reform, and will update me as and when there are any further developments.
So not apathy just waiting for the wheels of government to eventually start and crawl into motion.:D
If it's just some crap cookies calling home which you CAN opt out of, then I'm not bothered. It's the sly tactics of not informing customers of potential privacy infringements that bothers me. Oh wait, isn't exactly what phorm was until they were forced to reveal it's existence and purpose? :rolleyes:
Milambar
07-06-2008, 21:23
Seems like you have 2 choices.
1) Accept, and learn to live with it.
2) Jump ship and find a different isp.
Since I can't take 2, I live too far from an ADSL enabled exchange for a decent speed, plus I can't afford BT's installation and line rental charges on top of any ISP charges, I have to do item 1. Accept and learn to live with it. Which *isses me off.
Well my main problem with the main thread is that I basically am in the dark about most of what is discussed...So even IF the rest of VM's and BTs customers were reading this forum and that thread they would soon lose interest because they too will find much of the jargon impenetrable. I try to keep up but I cannot add anything to the discussion.I can't even explain it to others whom I've tried to warn about the issue.:shrug:
Sounds like you're doing ok if you are picking up any part of it.
It's really pretty simple. Phorm will have access to everything you can see on any webpage you visit and basically can do whatever they please with that data.
Still, when I think about some of my clients who are puzzled when I even ask them what browser they use I guess it's hardly surprising that more people are not alarmed by what is happening.
Seems like you have 2 choices.
1) Accept, and learn to live with it.
2) Jump ship and find a different isp.
Since I can't take 2, I live too far from an ADSL enabled exchange for a decent speed, plus I can't afford BT's installation and line rental charges on top of any ISP charges, I have to do item 1. Accept and learn to live with it. Which *isses me off.
or option 3, refuse their cookies forcing them to not track your browsing
Seems like you have 2 choices.
1) Accept, and learn to live with it.
2) Jump ship and find a different isp.
Since I can't take 2, I live too far from an ADSL enabled exchange for a decent speed, plus I can't afford BT's installation and line rental charges on top of any ISP charges, I have to do item 1. Accept and learn to live with it. Which *isses me off.
Thankfully i have a fully working BT line ready and a distance of 1.5Km from the exchange, so i will take the dump all VM services route.
For posters who are apathetic about Phorm.
The problem with this is that there will now be two discussions on Phorm instead of one, so it will take longer to absorb all new posts from the 2 new threads.
Perhaps this one should be used as a general information only thread rather than being used for the debate on Phorm, as one already exists.
The problem with this is that there will now be two discussions on Phorm instead of one, so it will take longer to absorb all new posts from the 2 new threads.
Perhaps this one should be used as a general information only thread rather than being used for the debate on Phorm, as one already exists.
I'd have to agree with this.
I have been following, and contributing, to the main discussion for months and even I find it difficult to keep up with developments due to the pace at which the thread moves, especially when new information comes to light. The thread has, on occasion, become diluted in relevant content and inflated with side issues. This is fully understandable given the nature of the Phorm issue and some side issue discussions lead to others that are more relevant.
Trying to look back to find relevant information is getting increasingly more difficult as there are currently 8300 posts spread over 559 pages.
Perhaps this, or another, thread could be used to detail relevant and important developments on the Phorm issue or alternatively a list of links to specific posts in the main thread.
I think the latter would be better... a sort of index to the information.
The problem with this is that there will now be two discussions on Phorm instead of one, so it will take longer to absorb all new posts from the 2 new threads.
Perhaps this one should be used as a general information only thread rather than being used for the debate on Phorm, as one already exists.
The size of the discussion thread is now preventing dissemination of important information, Mick. Perhaps you should delete this thread and start another (as "announce-only") that would be limited to simply important or significant news and developments with no discussion permitted?
I have to say, I agree with Mick, ceedee and icsys. Convert this thread into the "essence" of the other thread, with background information and chronological links to relevant posts and news items. Anyone interested can inform themselves of the progress so far, then join the main thread, contributing their thoughts and opinions.
Richard.
Sounds like you're doing ok if you are picking up any part of it.
It's really pretty simple. Phorm will have access to everything you can see on any webpage you visit and basically can do whatever they please with that data.
Still, when I think about some of my clients who are puzzled when I even ask them what browser they use I guess it's hardly surprising that more people are not alarmed by what is happening.
That's as far as my understanding goes.It's the detailed stuff that mystifies me.
Phorm will place a server within the ISP network. This server uses a layer 7 switch, this switch allows deep packet inspection of all your web surfing. When you browse the internet, the websites and pages that you see are transferred to and from your PC in 'packets' of information, it is these 'packets' of information that are intercepted, inspected and profiled.
By inspecting the pages you visit, phorm can strip out information of interest and at the same time give you a unique identification number (UID) so that you can be identified each time you browse the internet. As you continue to browse further information from your surfing is added to your profile.
Questions and answers (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34492122-post102.html) [first posted 19/2/2008]
From the outset Phorm wanted this system to be opt-out. i.e. you are profiled by default unless you opt-out.
If you opt-out you still get profiled, just the ads and anti-phishing is disabled. (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-43.html#post34501778) [first posted 6/3/2008]
Phorm say: reaserch suggests that customers want this. (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-41.html#post34501464) [first posted 6/2/2008] written by a PR company on behalf of Phorm.
Respected security, legal and privacy experts have checked out the phorm system (to the extent that they were allowed) and have concluded that the system is illegal in the uk as it breaks The data protection Act, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA), P Electronic Communications Regulations (PECR)
Peter Sommer - this appears to be an interception under RIPA (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-32.html#post34499993) [first posted 4-3-2008]
Channel 4 news picks up the story (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-32.html#post34500044) [first posted 4/3/2008]
Virgin Media introduce a webpage about their version of Webwise (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-36.html#post34500747) [first posted 5/3/2008]
start of discussions with Phorm UK PR/Tech Team (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-40.html#post34501439) [first posted 6/3/2008]
The BBC pick up the story (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-49.html#post34502315) [first posted 7/3/2008]
you continue to be profiled even if opted out (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-54.html#post34502893) [first posted 8/3/2008]
How the story changes over time (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-55.html#post34503066) [first posted 8/3/2008]
Open Rights group questions phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-75.html#post34505420) [first posted 12/3/2008]
80/20 interim PIA is published (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-93.html#post34509673) [first posted 18/3/2008]
80/20 Thinking DOES NOT endorse Phorm! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-99.html#post34510372) [first posted 19/3/2008]
Alex from Phorm joins in discussions (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-154.html#post34521054) [first posted 4/4/2008]
Profiler and anonymiser discussion (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-167.html#post34522304) [first posted 6/4/2008]
Simon Davies of 80/20 Thinking joins the debate (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-188.html#post34524828) [first posted 10/4/2008]
ICO amends their misleading information (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-180.html#post34524063) [first posted 9/4/2008]
Ms Sanderson replies to Mr Hanff (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-220.html#post34528534) [foirst posted 14/4/2008]
Only up to page 220 of 560!
Dephormation
14-06-2008, 13:04
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Pete
icysys:
Keep up the good work, it makes the whole phorm debacle easier to manage when it's broken down into bullet points. Funny how VM/phorm keep backtracking and lying when they are caught out.
London Town Hall meeting - discussion start (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-231.html#post34529431) [ first posted 15/4/2008
'Reply from EU Information, Society & Media Commissioner Viviane Reding (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-232.html#post34529521) [first posted 15/4/2008]
Town hall meeting overview by Alex Hanff - meeting was filmed by C4 (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-238.html#post34529831) [first posted 16/4/2008]
Phorm Warned by British Government Over Ad System, Must Use Opt-In (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-238.html#post34529831) [first posted 16/4/2008]
Links to video of the town hall meeting (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-258.html#post34531083) [first posted 17/4/2008]
Responses to answers given by BT on webwise system (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-258.html#post34531083) [first posted 18/4/2008]
Changing T&C's to accept webwise is unlawful (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-295.html#post34535463) [first posted 22/4/2008]
Kent Ertrugl's 'attuitude' at BBC Click interview (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-295.html#post34535463) [first posted on 22/4/2008]
FIPR calls on Home Office to withdraw misleading advice on Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-305.html#post34536294) [first posted 23/4/2008]
Home Office defends its advice in response to the FIPR request (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-316.html#post34537224) [first posted on 24/4/2008]
DPA notices and letters (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-319.html#post34537630) [first posted on 25/4/2008]
up to page 320 of 614
Florence
20-06-2008, 15:57
Shame that they forced the other thread to be closed which is perhaps the only reason he came to these forums.
Quite possibly.
Thats why I have resisted the temptation to get involved.
NTLVictim
20-06-2008, 16:47
Open again
blocking phorm - solution offered by BT (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post3
4538231) [first posted 25/4/2008]
Blocking webwise may block all web browsing (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post3
4538257) [first posted 25/4/2008]
More answers form a BT manager (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post3
4538341) [first posted 25/4/2008]
Phorm logo de-ja-vue? (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-329.html#post3
4539120) [forst posted 26/4/2008]
Eearl of Northesk asks new questions (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-329.html#post3
4539139) [first posted 26/4/2008]
BT seeking to use phorm without cookies (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-336.html#post3
4540905) [first posted 29/4/2008]
links to vide of the town hall meeting in london (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-341.html#post3
4541251) [posted 29/4/2008]
Alex publishes his dissertation - Phorm, a legal analysis (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-347.html#post3
4542162) [first posted 1/5/2008]
Virgin Media Officially Respond to customer concerns about Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-350.html#post3
4542447) [first posted 1/5/2008]
news on the eagerly awaited PIA video and final PIA document (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-358.html#post3
4543027) [first posted 2/5/2008]
Phorm boss talks targeted ads- link to Click interview video (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-366.html#post3
4543522) [first posted 3/5/2008]
80/20 - commenting on the PIA (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-372.html#post3
4543858) [first posted 3/5/2008]
Schematic diagram of how webwise is expected to function (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-374.html#post3
4543955) [first posted 3/5/2008]
discussion about user-agents if you allow google you allow phorm! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-429.html#post3
4550821) [first posted 13/5/2008]
allow googlebot = allow phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-431.html#post3
4551219) [first posted 13/5/2008]
NebuAd signs up with US isp to 'pimp' their customers (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-437.html#post3
4551659) [first posted 14/5/2008]
Dr clayton publishes re-revised technical analysis after phorm 'remembers' more detail (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-454.html#post3
4555106) [first
posted 18/5/2008]
3 days to the PIA release!! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-454.html#post3
4555106) [first posted 22/5/2008]
BT re-advises how to avoid being phormed (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-469.html#post3
4558060) [first posted 22/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com goes php - then moves stateside! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-469.html#post3
4558060) [first posted 23/5/2008]
webwise.bt shares servers with phishing sites host (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-475.html#post3
4558784) [first posted 24/5/2008]
Remaining earl of Northesk questions are answered - sort of (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-476.html#post3
4558963) [first posted 24/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com contact us sends information outside the UK! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-478.html#post3
4559664) [first posted 25/5/2008]
Phorm on The Gadget Show ch5 - transcripts on p484 (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-483.html#post3
4560467) [first posted 26/5/2008]
EU to monitor the developments of phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-485.html#post3
4560783) [first posted 27/5/2008]
According to EC directive 95/46/EC the phorm UID is PII (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-485.html#post3
4560783) [first posted 28/5/2008]
BT says there is nothing wrong with webwise.bt.com (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-497.html#post3
4562066) [first posted 28/5/2008]
Demonstration at the BT AGM is born... (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-502.html#post3
4562895) [first posted 29/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com pages - now link to internal customer help (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-502.html#post3
4562900) [first posted 29/5/2008]
http://nodpi.org is born (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-508.html#post3
4563548) [ first posted 30/5/2008]
up to page 509 0f 651
blocking phorm - solution offered by BT (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post34538231) [first posted 25/4/2008]
Blocking webwise may block all web browsing (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post34538257) [first posted 25/4/2008]
More answers form a BT manager (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-324.html#post34538341) [first posted 25/4/2008]
Phorm logo de-ja-vue? (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-329.html#post34539120) [first posted 26/4/2008]
Eearl of Northesk asks new questions (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-329.html#post34539139) [first posted 26/4/2008]
BT seeking to use phorm without cookies (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-336.html#post34540905) [first posted 29/4/2008]
links to vide of the town hall meeting in london (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-341.html#post34541251) [posted 29/4/2008]
Alex publishes his dissertation - Phorm, a legal analysis (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-347.html#post34542162) [first posted 1/5/2008]
Virgin Media Officially Respond to customer concerns about Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-350.html#post34542447) [first posted 1/5/2008]
news on the eagerly awaited PIA video and final PIA document (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-358.html#post34543027) [first posted 2/5/2008]
Phorm boss talks targeted ads- link to Click interview video (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-366.html#post34543522) [first posted 3/5/2008]
80/20 - commenting on the PIA (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-372.html#post34543858) [first posted 3/5/2008]
Schematic diagram of how webwise is expected to function (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-374.html#post34543955) [first posted 3/5/2008]
discussion about user-agents if you allow google you allow phorm! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-429.html#post34550821) [first posted 13/5/2008]
allow googlebot = allow phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-431.html#post34551219) [first posted 13/5/2008]
NebuAd signs up with US isp to 'pimp' their customers (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-437.html#post34551659) [first posted 14/5/2008]
Dr clayton publishes re-revised technical analysis after phorm 'remembers' more detail (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-454.html#post34555106) [first posted 18/5/2008]
BT re-advises how to avoid being phormed (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-469.html#post34558060) [first posted 22/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com goes php - then moves stateside! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-469.html#post34558060) [first posted 23/5/2008]
webwise.bt shares servers with phishing sites host (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-475.html#post34558784) [first posted 24/5/2008]
Remaining earl of Northesk questions are answered - sort of (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-476.html#post34558963) [first posted 24/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com contact us sends information outside the UK! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-478.html#post34559664) [first posted 25/5/2008]
Phorm on The Gadget Show ch5 - transcripts on p484 (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-483.html#post34560467) [first posted 26/5/2008]
EU to monitor the developments of phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-485.html#post34560783) [first posted 27/5/2008]
According to EC directive 95/46/EC the phorm UID is PII (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-485.html#post34560783) [first posted 28/5/2008]
BT says there is nothing wrong with webwise.bt.com (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-497.html#post34562066) [first posted 28/5/2008]
Demonstration at the BT AGM is born... (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-502.html#post34562895) [first posted 29/5/2008]
webwise.bt.com pages - now link to internal customer help (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-502.html#post34562900) [first posted 29/5/2008]
http://nodpi.org is born (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-508.html#post34563548) [ first posted 30/5/2008]
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The Jackal
21-06-2008, 21:46
Anybody got any idea how to stay current with Phorm developments other than reading the new posts to the enormous thread?
I simply can't devote an hour every day...
Don't read it ?
I have not visited these forums for a couple of months and my life has been bliss.
Re-visited it today and my good quality of life has been adversely affected by a miserable bunch of people ranting and moaning about phorm.
Out of sight - out of mind...
Don't read it ?
I have not visited these forums for a couple of months and my life has been bliss.
Re-visited it today and my good quality of life has been adversely affected by a miserable bunch of people ranting and moaning about phorm.
Out of sight - out of mind...
he he he...
You haven't been missed.
ICO refuses to take action over the BT trials (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-513.html#post34564182) [first posted 31/5/2008]
PIA update (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-523.html#post34565639) [first posted 2/6/2008]
A reply from Emma Sanderson [BT] to a forum member (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-526.html#post34566278) [first posted 3/6/2008]
leaked 2006 BT trial report hits the forums (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-533.html#post34567513) [first posted 4/6/2008]
ICO response to FoI request by Dephormation (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-568.html#post34571975) [first posted on 10/6/2008]
Complain to ISPA (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-568.html#post34571990) [first posted on 10/6/2008]
EU mulls intervention in Phorm trials and discussion (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-570.html#post34572144) [first posted 10/6/2008]
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Is that on-topic in a thread on Phorm Apathy?
BTW: I'm apathetic (though I do care) as my ISP isn't involved with Phorm (yet). If they would, I'd leave.
Ok I have unilaterally decided that icsys deserves one of these for his stirling efforts in this thread
Download Failed (1)
Poll is rigged (well, he/she tried!) (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-574.html#post34572836) [first posted 11/6/2008]
EU online privacy hearing scheduled for fri 20th june 08 (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-588.html#post34574613) [first posted 13/6/2008]
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer seems to accept Phorm spin (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-590.html#post34575196) [first posted 14/6/2008]
Automatic letter writer - for those still feeling apathetic (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-591.html#post34575319) [first posted 14/6/2008]
Letter to Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-592.html#post34575359) [first posted 14/6/2008]
Freedom of Information response from the Home Office (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-595.html#post34575664) [first posted 15/6/2008]
The GRC.com Security Now podcast #149 with Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte talks Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-647.html#post34580397) [first posted 20/6/2008]
OFCOM considering a complaint against Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-655.html#post34581257) [first posted 22/6/2008]
The 10,000th post (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-667.html#post34582853) [first posted 24/6/2008]
Charter comms in the US indefinitely halts plans to test advertising technology that wiretaps customers (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-671.html#post34583517) [first posted 25/6/2008]
Sue miller - Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer posts to the forum (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-675.html#post34584222) [first posted 25/6/2008]
Meglena Kuneva, European Consumer Commissioner, talks about online tracking (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-677.html#post34584361) [first posted 25/6/2008]
Alex Hanff is invited to participate in Steve Gibson podcast (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-679.html#post34584652) [first posted 26/6/2008]
Freedom of Information response from the ICO (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-680.html#post34584994) [first posted 26/6/2008]
Full suite of scanned FoI documents (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-687.html#post34585456) [first posted 26/6/2008]
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Another US ISP freezes trials with NebuAd (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-707.html#post34588580) [first posted 1/6/2008]
Baroness Miller is still very much involved in the campaign (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-708.html#post34588863) [first posted 1/6/2008]
Baroness Miller confirms attendance at the BT protest on 16th July (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-712.html#post34589016) [first posted on 2/6/2008]
The GRC.com Security Now podcast #151 scrutinize Phorm (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-720.html#post34589877) [first posted 2/6/2008]
Emma Sanderson (BT) gives some great quotes for use in court! (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-723.html#post34590030) [first posted 3/6/2008]
Alex meets the Earl of northesk at the House of Lords (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-765.html#post34596149) [first posted on 9/7/2008]
Podcast of the meeting is available on http://nodpi.org and via mp3 download.
Protest sparks interest from overseas (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33628733-virgin-media-phorm-webwise-adverts-updated-page-773.html#post34597667) [first posted 11/7/2008]
@icsys -- thanks for all your hard work compiling the "top of the pops" but unfortunately all the more recent links are now incorrect (an unintentional effect, I guess, of the thread tidying-up).
lostinspace
30-08-2008, 16:57
I'm apathetic about Phorm, I've got my own thread......wheeeeeeee
Now where's me tin-foil helmet, it was here somewhere last time I looked:angel:
I'm apathetic about Phorm, I've got my own thread......wheeeeeeee
Now where's me tin-foil helmet, it was here somewhere last time I looked:angel:
You don't need the tin foil hat unless you start making stupid statement's about PHORM, Russian Hackers, The end of the world according to PHORM :LOL:
flashpaul
30-08-2008, 20:38
As this thread has not been locked/deleted does this mean
we are allowed to talk about Phorm without fear of being banned ?
And people wonder why the other thread was closed..........
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34628569-post7.html
As this thread has not been locked/deleted does this mean
we are allowed to talk about Phorm without fear of being banned ?
Nobody got banned for talking about Phorm. Several people got banned because they forgot their manners, took side-swipes at the team who run this site and persistently ignored our terms of use or tried playing word-games with them.
Please in particular note my italics above as they apply directly to you.
We will not permit any ongoing agitation that appears to us to be a continuation of the unacceptable behaviour exhibited in the previous Phorm thread.
As we have now stated on several occasions, we are currently sifting the mountains of dross in the previous Phorm thread in an attempt to extract useful information, which will form the basis of several new threads that the team will open in due course.
In the meantime, any more old, un-closed Phorm threads that are still lurking in this forum are liable to get closed as and when they re-surface, so please do us all a favour and leave well alone.
This thread is now closed.
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