View Full Version : Ping spikes on Counter-strike - whats the weakest link!?
OK so i've put up with it over the past few days - but i'm getting annoyed now, i'm getting frequent ping spikes when im trying to play CS, i've done a pathping, results below - i seem to get 'small' (?) levels of packet loss - is that normal?!
Is there anything i can do? :(
Tracing route to server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 PooperPC [192.168.1.45]
1 192.168.1.1
2 * 10.236.24.1
3 wapk-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.1.170.225]
4 walt-dpim1-3-coc-1-gw.service.virginmedia.net [62.255.80.169]
5 * pop-bb-b-so-020-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.238]
6 tele-ic-2-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
7 ntl.killercreation.co.uk [212.250.14.18]
8 server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 PooperPC[192.168.1.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.1
3/ 100 = 3% |
2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 97/ 100 = 97% 10.236.24.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 76ms 6/ 100 = 6% 3/ 100 = 3% wapk-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.1.170.225]
0/ 100 = 0% |
4 78ms 9/ 100 = 9% 6/ 100 = 6% walt-dpim1-3-coc-1-gw.service.virginmedia.net [62.255.80.169]
0/ 100 = 0% |
5 71ms 3/ 100 = 3% 0/ 100 = 0% pop-bb-b-so-020-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.238]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 67ms 8/ 100 = 8% 5/ 100 = 5% tele-ic-2-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
0/ 100 = 0% |
7 66ms 3/ 100 = 3% 0/ 100 = 0% ntl.killercreation.co.uk [212.250.14.18]
3/ 100 = 3% |
8 62ms 6/ 100 = 6% 0/ 100 = 0% server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
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Pinging 81.19.219.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=166ms TTL=57 < w00t :(
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=54ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=88ms TTL=57
Ping statistics for 81.19.219.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 166ms, Average = 85ms
No one else is experiencing problems on the server either :S
---------- Post added at 17:39 ---------- Previous post was at 17:32 ----------
Ohh and it looks like it's happening on other servers as well - this is a Jolt server i normally play on:
Pinging 82.133.85.2 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 82.133.85.2: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.2: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.2: bytes=32 time=192ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.2: bytes=32 time=31ms TTL=55
Ping statistics for 82.133.85.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 192ms, Average = 81ms
GRRRRRR
Errr probably not, it happens in other games as well ie BF2142.
The connections are poor generally, with ping spikes, lagging etc.
There is not a lot you or anybody else can do. You could do the whole technical support thing but if you value your sanity then I would leave it, and hope the problem is solved for you.
Not good reading I know but I've had to bear it for a long time now.
:(
I've only just got back into CS - but it's been OK prior to this (January up until now).
I what you mean about preserving my sanity lol.....
soup dragon
24-03-2008, 18:22
i am not sure but to me that looks like the connection between your router(192.168.1.1) and your modem.
Going off my pingplotter trace there is a lot of loss from here to there as well.
Is 10.236.24.1 the UBR though ?
On mine the next hop from 192.168 is to there, and that is showing a ping of roughly 35 - 40 which is not good.
From what i can make out of those results, it's the first hop (beyond my router/modem) thats the probable cause?!
@ soup dragon: connection between my PC and the router (and modem) is fine, i can ping them all with no crappy times or loss or anything like that :S
hi guys, not sure whats going on i questioned my router and also NTL modem, however im playing css and im getting ping spikes. im on 4mb, my ping is normally around 30-40ms over the last day or two ive had spikes where ping goes as high as 700. it spikes between 200-700 no p2p running no spyware e.t.c ive heard there is a problem with NTL's UBR running at 99% capacity. is this causing issues as i havent had this problem until the last day or two.
southwell
26-03-2008, 14:48
I would try directly connecting the modem to the router first off, then you can narrow the problem down.
do you mean the pc to the modem?
southwell
26-03-2008, 15:19
Yes. Plug it directly, reset the modem and your connection settings on the pc and try that.
i can try that, checked everything on my pc first off. nothing has changed at all. but i'll try directo to the modem but i really think its NTL. never had the problem before.
southwell
26-03-2008, 16:40
Iam inclined to agree with you but if they ask you can say you eliminated the possibility of it being your router.
Oh this is REALLY pi**ing me off now... look at the state of this:
(this is the CS server im using - and getting unplayable ping spikes on. Everyone else on the server is getting a stable 30-40ms).
Pinging 81.19.219.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=105ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=198ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=205ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=173ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=188ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=218ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=232ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=57
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=57
Ping statistics for 81.19.219.52:
Packets: Sent = 35, Received = 25, Lost = 10 (28% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 232ms, Average = 85ms
Can someone do me a favour and ping it and post their results please?
Try a tracert and see which hop is giving the problem.
I have a similar issue for last 2 days on TF2 servers hosted down south. My problem is with :- pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238] .
Dunno wher that is though.
From Leeds NorthWest, 4Mb, ex-NTL
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
ping 81.19.219.52
Pinging 81.19.219.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 81.19.219.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 15ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 15ms
ping 81.19.219.52
Pinging 81.19.219.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=56
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=56
Ping statistics for 81.19.219.52:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 16ms, Average = 14ms
Did it twice
thanks
Here's the traceroute:
Tracing route to server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
0 PooperPC [192.168.1.45]
1 192.168.1.1
2 10.236.24.1
3 wapk-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.1.170.225]
4 walt-dpim1-3-coc-1-gw.service.virginmedia.net [62.255.80.169]
5 pop-bb-b-so-020-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.238]
6 * tele-ic-2-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
7 * ntl.killercreation.co.uk [212.250.14.18]
8 server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
Computing statistics for 200 seconds...
Source to Here This Node/Link
Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address
0 PooperPC [192.168.1.45]
0/ 100 = 0% |
1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 192.168.1.1
3/ 100 = 3% |
2 --- 100/ 100 =100% 97/ 100 = 97% 10.236.24.1
0/ 100 = 0% |
3 81ms 3/ 100 = 3% 0/ 100 = 0% wapk-t2cam1-b-ge910.inet.ntl.com [80.1.170.225]
4/ 100 = 4% |
4 68ms 7/ 100 = 7% 0/ 100 = 0% walt-dpim1-3-coc-1-gw.service.virginmedia.net [62.255.80.169]
1/ 100 = 1% |
5 71ms 10/ 100 = 10% 2/ 100 = 2% pop-bb-b-so-020-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.238]
0/ 100 = 0% |
6 66ms 8/ 100 = 8% 0/ 100 = 0% tele-ic-2-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.6]
1/ 100 = 1% |
7 71ms 9/ 100 = 9% 0/ 100 = 0% ntl.killercreation.co.uk [212.250.14.18]
2/ 100 = 2% |
8 62ms 11/ 100 = 11% 0/ 100 = 0% server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
Trace complete.
---------- Post added at 21:58 ---------- Previous post was at 21:57 ----------
So... according to that i get 100% loss at the first hop (which im assuming is normal - doesnt respond to pings or something?!) then anywhere between 3-11% loss at every point beyond that....... NICE!
Tracing route to server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms xxxxxxxx
3 8 ms 19 ms 8 ms pc-62-30-246-65-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.246.6
5]
4 9 ms 10 ms 12 ms pc-62-30-246-29-do.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.246.2
9]
5 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms uddi-t3core-1a-ge-010-0.inet.ntl.com [80.3.16.69
]
6 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms lee-bb-a-so-220-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.189]
7 195 ms 193 ms 195 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 22 ms 27 ms 22 ms ntl.killercreation.co.uk [212.250.14.18]
10 23 ms 35 ms 23 ms server.killercreation.co.uk [81.19.219.52]
Trace complete.
Looks like its the same issue I have
It's quite clear that the whole thing is crap because i'm pinging my work's RAS server and im getting the same kinda crappy times.... :(
I misread your trace.
Try doing the trace without your router and connect directly to the Modem
Pinging 81.19.219.52 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.19.219.52: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=53
Ping statistics for 81.19.219.52:
Packets: Sent = 16, Received = 16, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 11ms, Average = 9ms
no problems here in my work mate, i'll try again when i get home. who is your ISP. im with NTl and im certain its there network. its foobed. i havent had this problem before.
my current steps to eliminate are
1. re crimp my rj45 (as the plastic clip broke off so it stays in, but isnt clicked in)...... i know its bad but i really couldnt be arsed changing it lol.....andim sure thats not causing my random ping spikes.
2. possibly replace my rj45 (this ones worse) found out last nite the plastic cover has worn away at one point.....again im sure this isnt the problem.
3. and im still to eliminate my router from the equation but again im sure this isnt the problem.
Hmm i tried it last night (only a ping - was too tired to play) and i was getting results similar to yours above (i.e. normal!)
Hmmmm :S
PeteTheMusicGuy
28-03-2008, 10:44
Slighty OT but this is a question for all you CS players. Do you still need a copy of Half life in order to play it and if yes are you still able to get it from the likes of GAME. I fancy getting back into CS again :)
you can download it from the valve website for $19 i think. and im sure you dont need hl to run it but i imght be wrong. my mate downloaded source from valve. dnt think he got hl tho
PeteTheMusicGuy
28-03-2008, 13:24
I'm just looking to get that confirmed as I dont want to pay out for the game if I dont need it :). Thanks for the info
check it out, its here. it doesnt include HL i dont think BUT.... my mate downloaded the $19.95 source and it works fine. that was about 3 weeks ago.
http://www.steamgames.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=240
If you're talking about the old CS (the better one ;)) 1.6 then it's $9.99 on steam :P
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