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Tezcatlipoca
22-12-2007, 00:09
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/11837/12861/80GB-PS3-confirmed-europe-500.phtml


Although it does say at the end:


We got in touch with a Sony Europe spokesperson who stated: "The HD World newsletter is written by external sources, and the report quoted is from independent analysts. There is absolutely no 80GB version of the PS3 planned for Europe in 2008".


... but, then again, I don't tend to trust Sony denials... (or MS for that matter)

Toto
22-12-2007, 10:09
LOL, I'd be happier if they fixed all the annoying little bugs first, such as DVD/BD freezing when the wireless connection is on. :)

shawty
22-12-2007, 13:35
LOL, I'd be happier if they fixed all the annoying little bugs first, such as DVD/BD freezing when the wireless connection is on. :)

Ive never had a DVD freeze on me and my wireless is always on. Maybe your PS3 is broke?

dragon
22-12-2007, 13:41
LOL, I'd be happier if they fixed all the annoying little bugs first, such as DVD/BD freezing when the wireless connection is on. :)

Have you got the latest firmware (2.10)?

I've not used mine for dvd/BD yet so I can't say if its a problem or not.

Toto
22-12-2007, 14:41
Have you got the latest firmware (2.10)?

I've not used mine for dvd/BD yet so I can't say if its a problem or not.

Yes I have got the latest firmware, its a known bug, (http://forum.dvdtalk.com/showthread.php?t=495314) but I am not sure if its been fixed in 2.10.

Damien
22-12-2007, 15:13
I am always tempted to get a PS3 purely on the basis of it's media playing. Also PS1 games....

WHY WONT THEY REMAKE FF7!!! :(

dragon
22-12-2007, 16:04
I am always tempted to get a PS3 purely on the basis of it's media playing. Also PS1 games....

WHY WONT THEY REMAKE FF7!!! :(

Thinking about updating my psp firmware so I can try "remote play" of ps1 games... although if I do that i'll lose homebrew :(

Damien
22-12-2007, 16:08
What is remote play anyway, the games runs on the PS3 but you play on the PSP? Can you not play PS1 games on the PSP anyway?

dragon
22-12-2007, 16:12
What is remote play anyway, the games runs on the PS3 but you play on the PSP? Can you not play PS1 games on the PSP anyway?

I think so.....

err yes but I think they have to be bought/downloaded from the ps3 store...

the hacked psp OE firmware will play dumps from the discs however it doesn't handle multidisk games very well,

icestar2
22-12-2007, 20:31
WHY WONT THEY REMAKE FF7!!! :(

Agreed lol I want a FF7 Remake PLEASE ! ! ! the FF fans have been crying out for this for a while now I only hope Square-Enix start to take notice.

Begize
29-12-2007, 08:24
What is remote play anyway, the games runs on the PS3 but you play on the PSP? Can you not play PS1 games on the PSP anyway?

Remote Play (at the moment), just allows you to play media (music, video etc) from the PSP on a PS3 and vice versa.

There are some games that do support / will support it in future but they are few and far between. There was rumours of the PSP being used as a rear view mirror in racing games for example and I think Lair also allows you to play the PS3 game on the PSP.

You can play PS1 games on a PSP if you have the correct firmware to support it (official or unofficial). You can either buy the downloads from the Playstation Store, obtain them elsewhere for free or rip your own old PS1 games.

Damien
29-12-2007, 09:23
Will metal gear solid and FF7 be on the store eventually?

Begize
29-01-2008, 19:00
Will metal gear solid and FF7 be on the store eventually?
I would have thought MGS would be in there at some point, FF7 might be a problem as it's multi-disc and I think there are "issues" with how you swap discs.

In the original PSX it was easy, you flipped open the cover and put the new disc in when it said - on the PSP they would have to re-write the game or the PSP firmware to allow you swap to a different downloaded file.

Tezcatlipoca
29-01-2008, 20:19
Seems that the 80GB PS3 is on its way out in the US...

The current rumour is that it may be replaced with a 120 or 160GB PS3.

http://www.psu.com/Update--GamestopEB-discontinue-80GB-PS3-News--a0002557-p0.php

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/01/27/mole-80gb-ps3-dead-120-160gb-with-dual-shock-3-incoming


Although Sony say "No Comment" to releasing a new SKU in America, they have denied there will be a new SKU for Europe:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=32512

Hom3r
29-01-2008, 20:23
I want to get a PS3, but I need one that is backward compatable with PS2 games as I nearly have 100.

The 40GB version isn't backward compatable
The 60GB was but has been discontinued.

The 80 apparently is but as of yet not for sale in the UK.

Oh well play the waiting game.

Tezcatlipoca
29-01-2008, 20:44
I want to get a PS3, but I need one that is backward compatable with PS2 games as I nearly have 100.

The 40GB version isn't backward compatable
The 60GB was but has been discontinued.

The 80 apparently is but as of yet not for sale in the UK.

Oh well play the waiting game.



The American 80GB PS3 is BC, but appears to be being phased out.

If Sony release a new SKU over here, I can't really see it having BC - they removed it to cut costs, & the board has also changed in other ways since the 60/80GB SKUs (65nm process for the Cell on the 40GB SKU, 90nm on the others).

I'd expect any possible future SKUs to simply be based on the 40GB one, but have larger hard drives. Cheaper, easier...


You could get a 2nd hand 60GB PS3, or have a really good hunt for those last few units floating around (Play.com & Shopto.net have both had some recently, as did PCWorld/Dixons, although the bundles were not as good as the proper 60GB bundle...).

Tod
30-01-2008, 10:48
I have a 60GB PS3 and like the fact that I have backwards compatibility, but in reality I never use it!

Paranoimia
02-02-2008, 00:42
A lot was made about the loss of b/c, but in truth I don't think it's that big a deal.

When I got my PS2, I loved that I could keep my PS1 games. But in truth, after the first week, I couldn't be bothered with them - the PS2 was such a big improvement.

It was the same story when I got my PS3 (60GB model) at launch. I traded in my PS2 and all the games two weeks later.

To be honest, I was very glad I had a b/c model when Tomb Raider Anniversary was released for PS2, but to be honest, if I'd had a non b/c model, I'd have probably just gone out and bought another PS2 - they're so cheap now that b/c on PS3 isn't really an issue, in my personal opinion.

Tezcatlipoca
02-02-2008, 15:35
tbh, I'd only really want BC for one thing:

God of War II :(


I don't have any PS2 games anymore, nor a PS2. I wouldn't buy a PS2 just to play one game.

Although if I'd had loads of PS2 games, I probably would've tried to get a 60GB PS3 earlier, rather than wait for the cheaper non-BC 40GB.



I don't think price is the only issue for BC, there's also space, available TV connections, etc.

If I had PS2 games, I'd rather be able to play them on my PS3, than have to have yet another console set up taking up valuable space.


I still don't really understand Sony's reasoning with removing PS2 BC.

OK, it saves some money.

But I think the main thing they said was that they want to concentrate on the PS3, & obviously want people to concentrate on the PS3 & PS3 games, rather than just playing their old PS2 collection.


So why don't they *truly* focus on the PS3, & ditch the PS2 completely like MS did with the Xbox?


[& keep PS2 BC so they don't annoy people...]

icestar2
02-02-2008, 16:06
Well as you said dropping BC was to save money. They removed some chips to bring productions costs down. The reason they dont ditch PS2 is because even now its still doing increadibly well. Plus with such a big PS2 fanbase they are probably tryin to keep every1 happy Plus keep making money on it lol why drop a good thing I guess.

Production cost should come down even more soon if they put in the new blu-ray laser which is smaller. We just have to wait and see were they go with all this.

I do think this year will be good for PS3 though maybe not in america but almostly surley in Europe.

Tod
02-02-2008, 16:23
Now I have completed God of War II I don't have that problem anymore :)

GeoffW
03-02-2008, 09:57
The problem for Sony removing BC is that they lose one reason for PS2 owners to move to the PS3, their library of PS2 games.

They must be losing people who then decide they may as well get an xbox.

Tod
04-02-2008, 11:42
The problem for Sony removing BC is that they lose one reason for PS2 owners to move to the PS3, their library of PS2 games.

They must be losing people who then decide they may as well get an xbox.

Indeed it does seem weird. Especially when you see the PS2 sales figures you would have thought it would prove useful in trying to get people to update at some point.

Tezcatlipoca
11-08-2008, 21:21
Europe will be getting the 80GB PS3 on 29th August.

As expected, it is a straight replacement for the current 40GB PS3, with all the same features (& all the same missing features :rolleyes:), yet with an 80GB HDD instead of 40GB plus a DualShock3 pad instead of a SIXAXIS.

Same price point: £299 RRP.


AFAIK, Sony are also phasing out the current N. American 80GB PS3 (with PS2 BC etc.) in favour of the same new 80GB PS3 (with no PS2 BC etc.) we're getting here.

Saaf_laandon_mo
11-08-2008, 23:56
Does the 80gb version also have slots for SD cards that the current 40gb one doesnt ? Apart from ps2 bc, what are the other differences if any?

Tezcatlipoca
12-08-2008, 20:24
It's exactly the same as the current 40GB PS3, apart from having 80GB instead.

Ravenheart
19-08-2008, 09:49
Seems Sony have brought the date forward a week. the new 80Gb model will be available on Friday 22nd and will remain at a RRP of £299

Source: http://www.techdigest.tv/2008/08/80gb_ps3_releas.html

icestar2
19-08-2008, 20:03
SCEA has stated that shop's may sell the 80GB units as soon as they receive there stock, not sure if this applies over here but dont be surprised if some shops have them on sale now.

Damien
25-08-2008, 10:15
Does this have the cooler 65mm chip?

Tezcatlipoca
25-08-2008, 13:27
It's the same as the 40GB PS3, apart from HDD size, so... yep.

Damien
25-08-2008, 20:30
Might get one eventually, are they reducing the GPU as well in the (near) future?

NeilH
02-09-2008, 21:55
Why not install a bigger hard drive but buy the cheap 40gb version ;)

All you need is a 5400rpm Sata drive and don't push it over the 250gb mark.

This DOES NOT invalidate your warranty with sony if you install a new hard drive.

I am pretty sure that's the right specs for it after reading it somewhere.

Tezcatlipoca
02-09-2008, 22:49
Yup, although AFAIK you can take it up to 320GB.

icestar2
02-09-2008, 23:10
The 80GB model is more energy efficient for what its worth.

Tezcatlipoca
02-09-2008, 23:15
The 80GB model is more energy efficient for what its worth.

Same as the 40GB isn't it? 65nm process Cell, etc.

icestar2
02-09-2008, 23:51
Well I'm not 100% because nothing has been confirmed but I read the following and assumed.

We don't know for sure if Sony downsized the PlayStation 3's RSX graphics chip to 65nm, matching the already 65nm Cell processor, but we might have some anecdotal evidence from an external source. A forum poster at slickdeals (http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=902935) used a Kill-a-watt device to check the power consumption of the 40GB and 80GB models during idle phase, while spinning a DVD and with Metal Gear Solid 4 in the drive, and found a 12-20 watt difference favoring the new 80GB.

It's not enough to say Sony has finally upgraded its RSX graphics chip, but it is interesting to ponder

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/25/new-80gb-ps3-may-be-sporting-65nm-rsx-to-match-65nm-cell/

Damien
03-09-2008, 09:00
I heard that as well

icestar2
03-09-2008, 12:01
Dont know about the 80GB but I can tell you one thing there's a big weight diffrence between the 60GB and the 40GB models. I have the 60GB and its on the heavy side but my sis bought her BF a 40GB one last week for his B-Day and it was extreamly light I was shocked how much lighter it is compaired to the 60 GB version.