which is better Virgin at Cloning ?

[Berealwith]

:erm: I ask this question as i think Virgin can clone my 20mb with 19 people so i get 1mb or less each night and weekends too. or do the cloners take more out of me. Virgin do more damage, is my vote what do you think ? as i dont see any figures to what cloning does, but i sure as hell know what Virgin do to my 20mb:mad:

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Speeds speak for themselves and this is 1am sat

Sun, 25 Nov 2007 00:56:59 UTC

Test 1: 1024K took 21271 ms = 48.1 KB/sec, approx 396 Kbps, 0.39 Mbps
Test 2: 1024K took 22397 ms = 45.7 KB/sec, approx 377 Kbps, 0.37 Mbps
Test 3: 1024K took 13771 ms = 74.4 KB/sec, approx 613 Kbps, 0.6 Mbps
Test 4: 2048K took 41768 ms = 49 KB/sec, approx 404 Kbps, 0.39 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 448 Kbps, 0.44 Mbps

[Nilrem]

can you explain a bit more clearly what you mean?

I think you're asking about contention/the number of users on a UBR but i'm not sure - virgin sure wouldn't want/need to clone your modem, ever, but every ISP (and telecoms company) does work on the principle that home users are never going to be willing to pay for a guaranteed service, and most of the time won't be using the service to the maximum.
Hence say Virgin (or any ISP) might have 100 customers with an "up to" 20mb connection on a system that might only be able to cope with half (or less) of them using their service at full whack at any one time.

Also remember that speed tests are practically worthless, unless you take a test from multiple servers in different locations (a lot of speed test sites seem to be on woefully bad connections considering what they are meant to be doing - it doesn't take many people testing their speed to kill a 100mb or 1gb connection on a speed test server)

[Berealwith]

Ok oversubscribing (i am looking at the result to the end user) in business when it gets tough the guys have to gamble for customers, my point is VM has taken on too many customers and the gamble hasn't paid off, so now it's in a juggling act, and has taken the stance to maybe lose its £37 20mb ones for 2mb ie 10 at £4.50 for 12 months then it goes to £18, by my sums thats 18 x 10= £180. so Virgin does not want any more 20mb ones. So looking at the end user he gets slow B/B. and my comment was either cloners kill you (can someone post figures, or the cloning topics have no relivance) or Virgin does and i think Virgin does a better job than the cloners can ever do....