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davelee1097
07-08-2007, 16:42
Hi I was wondering if you could help me, I've just signed up to virgins cable internet service. I used to be on BT therefor I HAVE A BT home hub wireless router.
Now my problem is this when I connect the Virgin modem to the BT home hub and enter the BT hub settings as.
ip: 82.29.108.2
Subnet: 255.255.252.0
Default: 82.29.108.1
DHCP Server: 80.5.160.23
DNS1: 194.168.4.100
DNS2: 194.168.8.100
and then have the pc as optain automatically (DHCP) the PC gets assigned as 81.99.36.142 from the Virgin modem.
But then if I go the XBOX and have that as DHCP it gets assigned a totally different IP range??
Now that different IP range is assigned from the BT home hub and not the modem, So i'm assuming the modem can only assign one IP address so do I need to get the router to have an address assigned to that and then have the router assign addresses to the devices? I'm really confused.
Any help would be grately appreciated.
Thank you very much Dave
Hi I was wondering if you could help me, I've just signed up to virgins cable internet service. I used to be on BT therefor I HAVE A BT home hub wireless router.
Now my problem is this when I connect the Virgin modem to the BT home hub and enter the BT hub settings as.
ip: 82.29.108.2
Subnet: 255.255.252.0
Default: 82.29.108.1
DHCP Server: 80.5.160.23
DNS1: 194.168.4.100
DNS2: 194.168.8.100
and then have the pc as optain automatically (DHCP) the PC gets assigned as 81.99.36.142 from the Virgin modem.
But then if I go the XBOX and have that as DHCP it gets assigned a totally different IP range??
Now that different IP range is assigned from the BT home hub and not the modem, So i'm assuming the modem can only assign one IP address so do I need to get the router to have an address assigned to that and then have the router assign addresses to the devices? I'm really confused.
Any help would be grately appreciated.
Thank you very much Dave
The BT Home hub is probably designed so that the router part only functions on ADSL. If it has an Ethernet port labelled WAN, this isn't the case, and it should work as a router on the Virgin network.
If it doesn't, then it's router only functions with ADSL, and won't work with Virgin's cable service. You'll need to get a router that does (such as the Linksys WRT54G range).
davelee1097
07-08-2007, 16:54
Well the home hub only has 2 ethernet ports, If I connect the modem to port 1 and connect to the Hub wirelessly I'll get an IP from the modems DHCP server but then when i turn on the XBOX it will pick up an ip from the routers DHCP server??
Hi I was wondering if you could help me, I've just signed up to virgins cable internet service. I used to be on BT therefor I HAVE A BT home hub wireless router.
Now my problem is this when I connect the Virgin modem to the BT home hub and enter the BT hub settings as.
ip: 82.29.108.2
Subnet: 255.255.252.0
Default: 82.29.108.1
DHCP Server: 80.5.160.23
DNS1: 194.168.4.100
DNS2: 194.168.8.100
and then have the pc as optain automatically (DHCP) the PC gets assigned as 81.99.***.*** from the Virgin modem.
Theres the odd thing, you state that your PC is getting the IP address 81.99.***.***, but that address would be assigned to the hub, not the PC. If the PC is getting that address, then that is indicitive of the hub being bypassed alltogether.
Your PC should get an IP address from the private range assigned to it from the Hub/Router, either in the 192, 172 or 10 range depending on model and software configuration, or that is what I assume.
davelee1097
07-08-2007, 17:12
Well sometimes I will get an Ip assigned by the HUBs DHCP server and will get assignes 192.168.1.64, But then I can't connect to the internet?? What is the IP of the Modem is it 192.168.100.1?? Because if I put that into the address bar it comes up with the modem status page. Also when my PC obtains an IP it will initially be ip: 192.168.100.10
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default: 192.168.100.1
And then it will change to 82.x.x.x, I'm well confused.
xspeedyx
07-08-2007, 17:26
doesnt the ip address when you use a wireless router start with 192.
mrmistoffelees
07-08-2007, 19:02
All thats happening here is the home hub is acting as a very expensive CAT5 extender.
Im willing to bet the XBOX is getting an address starting with 169.x.x.x
Quite simply the home hub will NOT function with VM buy a compatible DSL router
All thats happening here is the home hub is acting as a very expensive CAT5 extender.
Im willing to bet the XBOX is getting an address starting with 169.x.x.x
Quite simply the home hub will NOT function with VM buy a compatible DSL router
ive just looked at my lads bt kit its just a adsl wireless modem so do what mrmstoffeless says and buy yourself a router
Well sometimes I will get an Ip assigned by the HUBs DHCP server and will get assignes 192.168.1.64, But then I can't connect to the internet?? What is the IP of the Modem is it 192.168.100.1?? Because if I put that into the address bar it comes up with the modem status page. Also when my PC obtains an IP it will initially be ip: 192.168.100.10
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default: 192.168.100.1
And then it will change to 82.x.x.x, I'm well confused.
Its swapping between a private (192) and Public (82) address is confusing me also.
The router will have a range of addresses it can assign to you from within its software, in this case it starts 192.168, and will have a limited subnet amount of adresses to assign.
If you are sometimes seeing and 82 address assigned to your PC, then that appears to be a direct connection to the VM modem.
When my brothers Linksys router blew, that is exactly what happend.
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doesnt the ip address when you use a wireless router start with 192.
Aye normally yes, but I don't see why it couldn't realistically use the other private ranges.
mrmistoffelees
07-08-2007, 19:24
Its swapping between a private (192) and Public (82) address is confusing me also.
The router will have a range of addresses it can assign to you from within its software, in this case it starts 192.168, and will have a limited subnet amount of adresses to assign.
If you are sometimes seeing and 82 address assigned to your PC, then that appears to be a direct connection to the VM modem.
When my brothers Linksys router blew, that is exactly what happend.
---------- Post added at 19:18 ---------- Previous post was at 19:17 ----------
Aye normally yes, but I don't see why it couldn't realistically use the other private ranges.
Right, I'll repeat again the BT home hub is designed for use only on an ADSL connection NOT a DSL connection.
Most routers are specced on the DHCP scope for a class C subnet as manufacturers think that no one is going to need 254 addresses
Class B & A ranges can be specified on most routers but I cant see the point in it really :erm:
xspeedyx
07-08-2007, 20:42
So for what I read you are going to need a dsl router mate netgear are good and I weould recommened using a internal pci card for your wireless connection if using a desktop
Right, I'll repeat again the BT home hub is designed for use only on an ADSL connection NOT a DSL connection.
Why you quoted me I am not sure, but if you read the O/P you will notice he is now on the VM cable network, the home hub is therefore largely redundant unless it has an Ethernet WAN connection on it.
So buying a compatable DSL router as per your post @ 19:02, or as you say ADSL isn't going to work, is it.:erm:
So then, to help the O/P you may want to start looking here (http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopSearch.asp?CategoryID=65) for a compatible and cheaply priced cable router.
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