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Hellooo, well i've decided to give the bathroom a lick of paint- and on a strict budget. ...As in, not spending any money on it:rofl:
So i spent all day yesterday removing waterproof (:afire:) wallpaper from the walls with a steamer.
I have bought some cream coloured paint (i just want it fresher and neutral) and also some white tile paint/spray stuff.
What i need to do today is fill some holes in the walls, and remove some random wall plugs that are in there, gloss all the woodwork, and paint the tiles, and hopefully get the walls ready to start painting them.
I have a peach coloured bath and sink (not my choice i must say) and the tiles are also a peach colour so that's why i want to do them white.
My questions are.....
Is it easy to spray the tiles? If it goes onto the bath while i'm spraying will it wipe off?
Is normal emulsion alright for a bathroom? Obviously i know proper bathroom paint would be better- but i didn't think of that when i bought it:erm::D
What sort of flooring is best? I'm not doing this bit yet- but i'd be looking for another cheap and easy solution, stick on tiles someone mentioned- i would have thought they'd not be suitable for a bathroom. And i won't be getting it properly tiled, it's an awkard shape and that would cost money, the floor space is pretty small just awkward shaped.
Also, today i need/hope to fill in walls /gloss woodwork /paint tiles /paint walls- which order is best? Glossing first or tiles?
Pia :)
MovedGoalPosts
22-07-2007, 11:18
In the many houses I've inspected, I've never seen painted tiles that look good. Unless yours are really horrible, you might want to reconsider this bit.
If you bought your paint from one of the major DIY chains, they'll probably take it back or allow a swap if you have the receipt. Most do a 28 day exchange. That way you can change for the stuff you really need.
Ordinary emulsion is OK, just not as hard (durable) so it won't tolerate the regular washing down you might want to do in a bathroom. If your bathroom is prone to condensation then you can get paints that are antifungicidal which can help to reduce the black marks you get (no substitute for preventing the condensation by opening windows etc.
Paint is designed to stick on stuff. Don't splash it around and you won't have cleaning problems. Always protect surfaces and clean with a cloth immediately there are any spillages.
Regarding the floor, easiest is vinyl sheet. Numerous patterns. I've always thought carpet in bathrooms is horrible. The upmarket look would be wood laminate (make sure it's moisture resitant), and then tiling. Avoid tiling on timber floors if your don't know what your doing. Too much flexing of the floor and your tiles fail too quickly.
Thanks Rob, i know what you mean about painted tiles, i tried it in my mam's house once with silver and blue paint and it looked shocking! But i was only about 15 and it wasn't spray. So i'm hoping with plain white it will look ok if i just do really thin coats.
This i what it looks like at the minute, after i've scraped all the paper off...
The walls will need a few coats, but then i'm not getting very far posting on here am i :LOL:
zing_deleted
22-07-2007, 12:46
cheap does not work. For apinting the walls you need a bathroom paint or an acrylic eggshell or it will just peel.You will need to rub everything down very well or you will be wasting your time
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In the many houses I've inspected, I've never seen painted tiles that look good. Unless yours are really horrible, you might want to reconsider this bit.
If you bought your paint from one of the major DIY chains, they'll probably take it back or allow a swap if you have the receipt. Most do a 28 day exchange. That way you can change for the stuff you really need.
Ordinary emulsion is OK, just not as hard (durable) so it won't tolerate the regular washing down you might want to do in a bathroom. If your bathroom is prone to condensation then you can get paints that are antifungicidal which can help to reduce the black marks you get (no substitute for preventing the condensation by opening windows etc.
Paint is designed to stick on stuff. Don't splash it around and you won't have cleaning problems. Always protect surfaces and clean with a cloth immediately there are any spillages.
Regarding the floor, easiest is vinyl sheet. Numerous patterns. I've always thought carpet in bathrooms is horrible. The upmarket look would be wood laminate (make sure it's moisture resitant), and then tiling. Avoid tiling on timber floors if your don't know what your doing. Too much flexing of the floor and your tiles fail too quickly.
no it isnt
Pia, you really need to get bathroom paint, especially with a kiddie in the house! ;) The shop where you bought it will probably let you exchange it - I usually just smile sweetly and say 'I brought the wrong stuff apparently... / I am just a girl!?' a bit deemining I know, but it works for me!
There's not much point in painting the woodwork first, cos you might get splashes of paint on it and then have to do it all over again?
And please don't paint the tiles!
zing_deleted
22-07-2007, 14:02
well I would disagree there im afraid. You need to prep everything walls fill holes and rub down. Rub down and fill the wood work. Paint the ceiling first then the wood work and allow to dry for 24 hours. You should have used oil based for the wood work IE gloss or satinwood. Then you paint the walls. Reasoning wall paint is water based and will wipe off ,gloss and satin wood is oil based and will not just wipe off the walls
Well i'm regretting the tiles, which i knew i would but i thought i'd risk it, it's uneven in places and i've just gone out to buy more.... so this better make it a bit better, i don't want perfection i don't plan on living here for much longer, but as long as it looks tidy i don't care.....:erm::disturbd:
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I didn't see any bathroom paint in the shop, screw it i'm not that fussed, there was emulsion on the paper to start with and that was always alright.
zing_deleted
22-07-2007, 14:15
well steam from the bath and shower will get into the paint and it will peel in time. You could size the walls first to stop and moisture soaking into the plaster but its not ideal. Normal emulsion has no resistance to moisture or mould or anything but your not gonna be there long you should ok. You other option would be to seal the whole thing once you have finished with some clear acrylic varnish but you said your doing it on the cheap
greencreeper
22-07-2007, 14:20
It looks awful, Pia :( I'd have the builder in - gut the bathroom and start again with a new suite and tiles. Lord knows why anyone puts any tiles or fittings in a bathroom that are not white. Then tackle the painting. Emulision comes off ceramics really easy. When I did my bathroom, I slapped the roller over the tiles too. Just wiped it off later with a cloth, for a neat finish. Ideally you want paint specifically designed for kitchens and bathrooms - more durable. A matt/satin finish would help hide the rough walls - all those dips and bumps.
Well getting a new suite and everything is not an option, this is a crappy council house i just want it looking tidier, i'm not snobby about it and not a perfectionist, maybe if the house was mine i definitely would be, but like i said i don't plan living here for too long anyway so i just want to tidy it up as quick and easy as possible, if that means taking shortcuts then it'll have to do, i can't expect too much from myself, i don't know anything about decorating, i'm a helpless girl (:D) and i have nobody else to do it for me......
hmm, well good luck with it Pia! :tu: You are braver than me. I just got a can of bathroom paint and sloshed it over the walls in rather a haphazard fashion, but I think it looks ok? again, I'm a council tenant and I did not pick the suite!
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/07/15.jpg and I did manage to cover up this underneath it - https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/07/16.jpg :blush:
joglynne
22-07-2007, 19:30
Pia as long as you have some paint left over from the walls you can do emergency touch ups as and when the finish starts to look a little dodgy so as a short term freshener it should be OK.
Please, please do not paint the tiles with ordinary paint. The ceramic finish on the tiles will not allow the paint to adhere properly and you will end up with peeling paint very quickly. To get a halfway decent finish on the tiles you really have to use some form of specialist primer. I have had people on the phone in tears wanting my husband to come out and make their bathrooms look less like a slum after they had painted their tiles "like they do on Telly"
Before you go any where near the tiles with paint try giving the grout between them a real going over with bleach and an old toothbrush. You could then use a 'Grout Pen' (http://www.ronseal.co.uk/products/product.jsp?id=14 )which will really whiten the grout and make the tiling look a lot fresher.
Jo:)
hmm, well good luck with it Pia! :tu: You are braver than me. I just got a can of bathroom paint and sloshed it over the walls in rather a haphazard fashion, but I think it looks ok? again, I'm a council tenant and I did not pick the suite!
That's what i had planned, i wa thinking i could get it done in a night:rofl: Silly me:D
Pia as long as you have some paint left over from the walls you can do emergency touch ups as and when the finish starts to look a little dodgy so as a short term freshener it should be OK.
Please, please do not paint the tiles with ordinary paint. The ceramic finish on the tiles will not allow the paint to adhere properly and you will end up with peeling paint very quickly. To get a halfway decent finish on the tiles you really have to use some form of specialist primer. I have had people on the phone in tears wanting my husband to come out and make their bathrooms look less like a slum after they had painted their tiles "like they do on Telly"
Before you go any where near the tiles with paint try giving the grout between them a real going over with bleach and an old toothbrush. You could then use a 'Grout Pen' (http://www.ronseal.co.uk/products/product.jsp?id=14)which will really whiten the grout and make the tiling look a lot fresher.
Jo:)
I used proper tile paint spray stuff for the tiles... It looks good along the side of the bath but totally crap above the sink!
Anyway... i've been working at it today and run out of paint, it needed loads of coats of paint so i'll have to go get some more tomorrow for what will be hopefully the last coat!
Also done all the glossing, including the door frame and the whole of the inside of the door, couldn't believe how yellow it was til i put the white over it!!
This is what it looks like so far..... remember- not finished ;) Bear in mind, the pictures in my earlier post i took this morning, and these just now... 3 coats of paint later, lots of glossing, hole-filling, sanding and tile painting later...:erm:
joglynne
22-07-2007, 20:17
Well done. Just try not to apply any pressure to the painted tiles when you clean them. Pity you live so far away, cause we could have referred some of our customers to you for remedial work.:D
Edit. Just to show my horrendous before picture and my lovely after. Only waited 30 years or so.:D
alferret
22-07-2007, 20:52
well steam from the bath and shower will get into the paint and it will peel in time. You could size the walls first to stop and moisture soaking into the plaster but its not ideal. Normal emulsion has no resistance to moisture or mould or anything but your not gonna be there long you should ok. You other option would be to seal the whole thing once you have finished with some clear acrylic varnish but you said your doing it on the cheap
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well I would disagree there im afraid. You need to prep everything walls fill holes and rub down. Rub down and fill the wood work. Paint the ceiling first then the wood work and allow to dry for 24 hours. You should have used oil based for the wood work IE gloss or satinwood. Then you paint the walls. Reasoning wall paint is water based and will wipe off ,gloss and satin wood is oil based and will not just wipe off the walls
:tu::tu:
There is no substitute for preperation, cutting corners will only cost more in the long run. IMO
looks like you've done a good job though Pia, it's a good idea to take before & after (and how-it's-going!) photos. :) so you can look at the pictures of 'before' and go 'well it looks a hell of a lot better than it did' rather than going 'hmm, maybe just another coat over here' or is that just a blokes thing? :p:
zing_deleted
22-07-2007, 21:42
I used to be a painter and decorator done loads of bathrooms (properly ;))
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That's what i had planned, i wa thinking i could get it done in a night:rofl: Silly me:D
I used proper tile paint spray stuff for the tiles... It looks good along the side of the bath but totally crap above the sink!
Anyway... i've been working at it today and run out of paint, it needed loads of coats of paint so i'll have to go get some more tomorrow for what will be hopefully the last coat!
Also done all the glossing, including the door frame and the whole of the inside of the door, couldn't believe how yellow it was til i put the white over it!!
This is what it looks like so far..... remember- not finished ;) Bear in mind, the pictures in my earlier post i took this morning, and these just now... 3 coats of paint later, lots of glossing, hole-filling, sanding and tile painting later...:erm:
no offence meant but for future reference 3 coats of paint in an afternoon is not a good idea. You will find where the coats have dried at different times ie top coat before bottom coat you will possibly get a peel very soon indeed. It would have told you on the tin how long to have left it.I see you have took no notice of my gloss first advice so when you do try to cut the gloss in and go onto the emulsion you will find it near impossible to clean up after use a fitch if you have one if not a small artist brush will give you a chance. Still like you said its a quick job :)
Another little tip just above the tiles if you use some decorators caulk with a application gun you will get a tidy edge :)
Wicked_and_Crazy
22-07-2007, 21:57
Dulux do a Kitchen and Bathroom paint. As Zing says its an emulsion with acrylic in so can be washed and washed. I've used this type of paint loads of times and can say it does what it says on the tin
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'hmm, maybe just another coat over here' or is that just a blokes thing? :p:
Not this blokes thing ;) i refitted the whole bathroom the other year, plumbing, tiling, painting the lot. OK i did get a plasterer in as my plastering is not up to standards i want and we have two bathrooms so it didnt matter that one of them was out of action for a month
Regarding the floor, easiest is vinyl sheet. Numerous patterns. I've always thought carpet in bathrooms is horrible. The upmarket look would be wood laminate (make sure it's moisture resitant), and then tiling. Avoid tiling on timber floors if your don't know what your doing. Too much flexing of the floor and your tiles fail too quickly.
I'm fairly sure I've seen vinyl sheet with a wood laminate pattern, that way she'd have the convenience of vinyl & the look of laminate.
again, I'm a council tenant and I did not pick the suite!
I got lucky with my bathroom, it was redone by the council prior to me moving in, & no coloured plastic bath or whatever either. :)
I used to be a painter and decorator done loads of bathrooms (properly ;))
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no offence meant but for future reference 3 coats of paint in an afternoon is not a good idea. You will find where the coats have dried at different times ie top coat before bottom coat you will possibly get a peel very soon indeed. It would have told you on the tin how long to have left it.I see you have took no notice of my gloss first advice so when you do try to cut the gloss in and go onto the emulsion you will find it near impossible to clean up after use a fitch if you have one if not a small artist brush will give you a chance. Still like you said its a quick job :)
Another little tip just above the tiles if you use some decorators caulk with a application gun you will get a tidy edge :)
Yes... a quick job- advice is appreciated- which is why i posted the thread... I did gloss first, it all looks fine and it's all even....:shrug:
It should be done by tomorrow, and it'll be tidier than it was to start with. I wish i had the time/money/ability to do it to Zing standards but i'll stick with aiming a little lower ;)
zing_deleted
22-07-2007, 23:26
My house is a mess its always been a busmans holiday for me and I never get round to doing my place lol
Pia, where's the 'after' photos of the finished job then? :p:
:blush: Not finished it yet, i'm gonna wait until i get more time to (i.e when my little lad is staying at nana's) and i'm gonna buy some proper bathroom paint, i can treat this emulsion as the undercoat, it needs more paint on the walls, so i'll do it properly i think :D
zing_deleted
26-07-2007, 19:15
area marked 1 needs a good sanding down and areas marked 2 can be overfilled and sanded back with some fine surface filler Red Devil if available is very good at the job. Also remember what I said about the caulk sorting the edges out around the tiles
area marked 1 needs a good sanding down and areas marked 2 can be overfilled and sanded back with some fine surface filler Red Devil if available is very good at the job. Also remember what I said about the caulk sorting the edges out around the tiles
omg Pia, you'd better do a good job - inspector Zingle shall be around to check! :LOL: Or maybe you could convince Zingle to pop up to you for a day or something and lend a hand? ;)
Wicked_and_Crazy
26-07-2007, 19:27
omg Pia, you'd better do a good job - inspector Zingle shall be around to check! :LOL: Or maybe you could convince Zingle to pop up to you for a day or something and lend a hand? ;)
Im sure he'd lend more than a hand ;)
tweetypie/8
24-08-2007, 23:40
I used to be a painter and decorator done loads of bathrooms (properly ;))
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no offence meant but for future reference 3 coats of paint in an afternoon is not a good idea. You will find where the coats have dried at different times ie top coat before bottom coat you will possibly get a peel very soon indeed. It would have told you on the tin how long to have left it.I see you have took no notice of my gloss first advice so when you do try to cut the gloss in and go onto the emulsion you will find it near impossible to clean up after use a fitch if you have one if not a small artist brush will give you a chance. Still like you said its a quick job :)
Another little tip just above the tiles if you use some decorators caulk with a application gun you will get a tidy edge :)
a good honest guy :Yes: speaks out not afraid to air his views and above all very helpful :D
keep some paint aside so you can touch up when needed and if you need to just freshen up the place this is the way to go
keep some paint aside so you can touch up when needed and if you need to just freshen up the place this is the way to go
I think she's probably completed it by now....
I always work from the top down. Ceiling first then walls and finish off with the gloss paint.
It's REALLY worth the time to use paper/masking tape/old sheets to protect the porcelain from splashes and drips.
Flooring last of all. I find vinyl flooring very effective and cheap for my shower rooms. If you have kids or anyone that tends to splash a lot of water around it's worth putting a bead of silicon sealant around the edges where it meets with the skirting board.
Its a pity that the previous people who owned my house didn't follow some of the above tips. Currently getting quotes about fixing the botch job, hopefully my dads mates (one who's a corgi registered plumber and the other who will plaster a walls for beer :D) will be able to fix it. Think I'm just going to start again really minus replacing the bath, sink and toilet which are in good nick.
BTW it looks fine but is an absolute nightmare to live with usually due to them not sealing everything properly and poor tiling at corners.
I really must remember to check posting dates..
:dozey:
hehe i forgot about this thread :D
I never did really finish the bathroom all that time ago. But 6 weeks ago i got a new bathroom & kitchen installed aswell as a full house rewire, so the whole house needs doing now anyway.
There is advantages to my laziness, i'd be devastated if i'd done it all nicely, just for them to come and destroy it all (and that they did :dozey:).
When they did the rewire they moved all the light fittings too so definitely need to paint every ceiling.
I am currently (well, not right this minute) trying to remove the wallpaper from the kitchen, and it's soooooo hard to get off since it's waterproof :shocked::td::mad:
hehe i forgot about this thread :D
I never did really finish the bathroom all that time ago. But 6 weeks ago i got a new bathroom & kitchen installed aswell as a full house rewire, so the whole house needs doing now anyway.
There is advantages to my laziness, i'd be devastated if i'd done it all nicely, just for them to come and destroy it all (and that they did :dozey:).
When they did the rewire they moved all the light fittings too so definitely need to paint every ceiling.
I am currently (well, not right this minute) trying to remove the wallpaper from the kitchen, and it's soooooo hard to get off since it's waterproof :shocked::td::mad: It is always good to plan how you are going to go about your home renovation ;)
With waterproof wallpapers I have had really bad times and the only way I managed to get rid of them was simply by scoring the surface so the paste dis solvent can penetrate. here is what i used http://www.wallwik.co.uk/
I was amazed that the the paste was all gone from my walls so i didnt have to sand them afterwards and it was quick and easy
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