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TheDaddy
25-05-2007, 10:19
Seeing as the football thread will close soon it's probably best to start this one with something juicy, surely there has to be a mistake here? £27.5 million combined I would say was expensive, especially when they could have signed him for £10 million just a year ago
Manchester United will offer £27.5m plus £11m-rated Louis Saha for Spurs striker Dimitar Berbatov. (Sun)
Bloody hell... Almost 40 million quid for a player we bought for 11m?
Shame United aren't getting their getting their grubby mits on him. Levy has said he doesn't need the money and Berbatov said he's happy at Spurs.
TheDaddy
25-05-2007, 15:37
Poor old Man City ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/6691979.stm
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Bloody hell... Almost 40 million quid for a player we bought for 11m?
Shame United aren't getting their getting their grubby mits on him. Levy has said he doesn't need the money and Berbatov said he's happy at Spurs.
It's a hell of a profit, if his head does get turned, but then you'll never compete if you sell your best players
One bid you might have trouble rejecting (if true), given the players reaction when you wanted to sign him from Wigan
Chelsea have lodged a £10m bid for Tottenham defender Pascal Chimbonda. (Daily Mail)
Poor old Man City ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/6691979.stm
yep i';m sure if Stuart Pearce couldn't get them relagated then i'm sure Sven can :D
That story can't be right? Berbatov never has been or ever will be worth more than £15m.
That story can't be right? Berbatov never has been or ever will be worth more than £15m.
well AJ went to Everton for about £8m Jeffers to Arsenal for abour £10 and SWP went to Chelsea for £25 and i think he's better than all of those, plus Owen £10 and loads of others in a similar bracket
you have to add in a bit more as Spurs don't really want to sell him and that will push the price up, everytime i've seen him he's looked class and has good movement on and off the ball and a good team player.. based on the prices players go for today Carrick and Hargreaves 18m each :Yikes: i'd rate him at £15
One bid you might have trouble rejecting (if true), given the players reaction when you wanted to sign him from Wigan
Chelsea have lodged a £10m bid for Tottenham defender Pascal Chimbonda. (Daily Mail)
Well, as Levy said, money isn't an issue... But moving to Chelsea might be for Chim. Its a shame he's been really good to us. He'd be competing with Ferrera I think, but I don't know how they'd compare... He wouldn't just want to do a "Wright-Phillips" and get paid to sit on the bench all the time.
TheDaddy
25-05-2007, 16:21
That story can't be right? Berbatov never has been or ever will be worth more than £15m.
I thought it was a miss print and the deal was £16 million + Saha, combined value £27 million but perhaps not. I just can't see there being any truth behind it, yes he might well be a good player but how can he be worth that much?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007240080,00.html
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Well, as Levy said, money isn't an issue... But moving to Chelsea might be for Chim. Its a shame he's been really good to us. He'd be competing with Ferrera I think, but I don't know how they'd compare... He wouldn't just want to do a "Wright-Phillips" and get paid to sit on the bench all the time.
Dunno mate, Chimbonda is a top player but a stroppy git and Ferreira didn't get much of a look in last season, they are definitely in the market for a right back, imo if they are sniffing about I'd sell him
Glazers deny Man Utd sale story.....
The Daily Mirror reported that the American billionaire was ready to sell United after profits fell short of his expectations.BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6691553.stm)
The remainder of the report doesn't make for very good reading either :(
That story can't be right? Berbatov never has been or ever will be worth more than £15m.
Are you sure you've seen him play Russ ??? :erm:
Berbatov was included in the FA Premier League's PFA Team of the Season on April 21, 2007, one of only three players in the team not to play for league leaders Manchester Utd
Scored 23 goals in 49 appearances for Spurs in 2006/7
not sure about this one though :eek:
Berbatov was voted as one of the "10 Hottest Bulgarian Men of the Year", an award given by the Bulgarian NOVA TV tabloid show Goreshto
Are you sure you've seen him play Russ ??? :erm:
Yes - I stand by what I said. I don't really rate him in any financial bracket above £15m. He's good, no doubt about that but seeing as it's United, he'll probably go for in excess of 20m.
Bring in video replays and oust biased refs.
Shadow Demon UK
25-05-2007, 21:27
I thought it was a miss print and the deal was £16 million + Saha, combined value £27 million but perhaps not. I just can't see there being any truth behind it, yes he might well be a good player but how can he be worth that much?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007240080,00.html
I think we just have to look at the source of this story to realise it's a load of rubbish ;)
He is a very good player but worth nowhere near that amount of money, maybe around £25 million, going by the cost of most strikers these days.
TheDaddy
26-05-2007, 08:20
I think we just have to look at the source of this story to realise it's a load of rubbish ;)
You can't tar the Suns sports team with the same brush as the rest of their journalists, they have excellent contacts inside clubs and with agents, they regularly break big stories months before other papers even get a sniff, I'd trust them more than most other newspapers with regard to football
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He is a very good player but worth nowhere near that amount of money, maybe around £25 million, going by the cost of most strikers these days.
They don't want to sell him, he is in no hurry to move, Fergie seems to think his style will really add something to the team, given this you'll have to pay through the nose to get him
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Blimey, Cambridge are second :disturbd:
Who says refs are not biased :)
http://uk.download.yahoo.com/ga/fu/oa/happyref.gif
Who says refs are not biased :)
http://uk.download.yahoo.com/ga/fu/oa/happyref.gif
haha. Seen that one before, think the refs explanation was that he was celebrating cause it played advantage rather than gave a foul.
Still, it doesn't look good, clever editing or not!
TheDaddy
28-05-2007, 11:15
What about old Beckham, back in the fold again! Wonder if he is regretting going into semi retirement now, smacks of desperation from Mclaren to me
He is on fire at the minute. The game on Saturday was the David Beckham show everything Madrid did was round him.
TheDaddy
28-05-2007, 11:28
He is on fire at the minute. The game on Saturday was the David Beckham show everything Madrid did was round him.
I have nothing against him, in fact considering his global fame and vast wealth, he seem's like a thoroughly nice bloke but if things are so bad we have to bring him back to have a chance of beating Estonia yes those footballing giants of Estonia, we are in so much trouble
well i'm going to the friendly on Friday and i'm glad I will get to see him play again, i'm sure Real are regretting letting him go TBH. i think they played reyes alot instead but have now decided they don't want him. Milan were after Becks but he went to LA instead.
i've been reading that he can't really play in many England games though as the US league has games on that clash with the England games so bringing him back might not be the best move long term.
Don't forget about jetlag too - a 14 hour round trip isn't good to be good for the system.
Don't forget about jetlag too - a 14 hour round trip isn't good to be good for the system.
apparently it takes one day to recover from each hour of time difference which means he would have to arrive a week early
still if he plays like he has for Real of late then i'm all for playing him
TheDaddy
29-05-2007, 11:09
Don't forget about jetlag too - a 14 hour round trip isn't good to be good for the system.
Can't international teams insist that players report up to a week early for matches? Seems to me the real issue here is whether he will still be capable of playing against top opposition whilst plying his trade in that league
well i'm going to the friendly on Friday and i'm glad I will get to see him play again, i'm sure Real are regretting letting him go TBH. i think they played reyes alot instead but have now decided they don't want him. Milan were after Becks but he went to LA instead.
i've been reading that he can't really play in many England games though as the US league has games on that clash with the England games so bringing him back might not be the best move long term.
It hasn't gone down to well here (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543555) though :)
It hasn't gone down to well here (http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=543555) though :)
In North America it's usually seen that your club takes priority.
For example a lot of top NHL players don't go to the Ice Hockey World Championships due to them still playing for their NHL team in the playoffs.
It looks like United might be after Huntelaar then....
Manchester United (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/football/manchester-united/index.html) are reportedly chasing Ajax striker Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.
After sealing the deal to bring Bayern Munich midfielder Owen Hargreaves (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/5000000000000000000010920.html) to Old Trafford - a move that could be completed on Tuesday - United boss Sir Alex (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/23805.html) Ferguson has turned his attentions to bolstering his frontline.
The Manchester Evening News reports that Ferguson is keen on Spurs (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/fo/tottenham/) frontman Dimitar Berbatov (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/5000000000000000000010924.html), but the Bulgarian now looks set to stay at White Hart Lane.
The United boss will now concentrate his efforts on long-term target Huntelaar, who has scored a hugely impressive 60 goals in 74 appearances at the Amsterdam ArenA.
Yahoo Sport (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/29052007/4/fergie-steps-striker-hunt.html)
Giggs quits international football after the weekend
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6703359.stm
Can't see it making much difference though
I suppose most people wouldn't - but I say good on him for chosing the love of his country over glory hunting.
TheDaddy
30-05-2007, 10:34
Giggs quits international football after the weekend
I thought he quit years ago :confused: :D
TheDaddy
30-05-2007, 21:14
Replacements for Giggs and Scholes perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm
Shadow Demon UK
30-05-2007, 21:34
Replacements for Giggs and Scholes perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6706423.stm
Great signings in my opinion. :tu:
Apparently Nani is a similar player to Ronaldo and has the prospect of being just as good, if thats true what a team we will have for the future. :)
TheDaddy
30-05-2007, 21:42
Great signings in my opinion. :tu:
Apparently Nani is a similar player to Ronaldo and has the prospect of being just as good, if thats true what a team we will have for the future. :)
Apparently that Anderson is a top prospect to, only Gary Neville to go, Micah Richards anyone?
I have to admit, these signings look good on paper, lets hope they settle in quickly.
Also, it looks like the Glazers are keeping to their word about allowing money for transfers, albeit restricted probably.
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Apparently that Anderson is a top prospect to, only Gary Neville to go, Micah Richards anyone?
The class of 92 have served the club very well, but all good things come to an end eventually, Neville's time is almost up and as one of the few remaining players of the class of 92 was the very reason he was made captain imo.
Richards is not a bad player btw. :tu:
Shadow Demon UK
31-05-2007, 13:16
And another signing - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6707995.stm
Although this one was not as much of a suprise. Now i would like to see a striker brought in and possibly a right back, then we will have a great team for the future :)
TheDaddy
31-05-2007, 13:54
Now i would like to see a striker brought in and possibly a right back, then we will have a great team for the future :)
You should go for Tevez, if we can't keep him, bet you could pay 5 million now and 25 million at the end of the season for him
On the plus side for us, great player :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6706955.stm
You should go for Tevez, if we can't keep him, bet you could pay 5 million now and 25 million at the end of the season for him
On the plus side for us, great player :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6706955.stm
And from under Spurs' noses too, which I think is good for football. The biggest teams shouldn't have a monopoly on talent.
I must admit, Spurs are my local team and grew up with them with my family, but always had a soft spot for West Ham. Hopefully bring them up a bit.
Dispute over knighthood for Beckham
Civil servants have been asked to consider whether he is suitable for the top honour, awarded by Queen Elizabeth II, but some have argued that he should not be made Sir David because he is moving to play in the United StatesHe is destined to get one methinks, as he is one of the Queens favourites.
He was awarded the lower OBE (Order of the British Empire) award in 2003 and could see that upgraded to a knighthood within a few months, either in premier Tony Blair's resignation honours list or the queen's birthday honours list.
As well as his footballing success, his claims for the top award are bolstered by his charity work and role in helping to secure the 2012 Olympics for London.
His wife, former Spice Girl Victoria Beckham, who would become Lady Victoria if her husband was honoured, told the BBC last year: "It's just so camp, it's wonderful isn't it? Lady Victoria...that would be quite amazing."
:disturbd:
Link (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20070531/tuk-fbl-eng-usa-beckham-6a22689.html)
Can't see how opting to play in the US is a problem. Loads of knighted people have earnt their money there, be it entertainment, sports, etc. Plus they gave Bill Gates an honourary one, and he's a Sherman.
I can't see the point in that.. since he won the treble in 99 he hasn't done much.. another league title with us and that's about it so with no extra acheivements on the field and not much off it why is this even being suggested ?
Shadow Demon UK
31-05-2007, 17:30
I can't see the point in that.. since he won the treble in 99 he hasn't done much.. another league title with us and that's about it so with no extra acheivements on the field and not much off it why is this even being suggested ?
Actually he does loads of charity work all the time, which i think is the main reason why he would get it. That, along with winning every competition going in England, playing for two of the best teams in the world and being England captain. IMO he deserves it.
TheDaddy
31-05-2007, 17:39
Actually he does loads of charity work all the time, which i think is the main reason why he would get it. That, along with winning every competition going in England, playing for two of the best teams in the world and being England captain. IMO he deserves it.
I don't, Knighthood is pretty much the highest honour he can receive without it getting complicated, what happens if he gets it when Blair goes and then leads us to European Championship success, how does the nation reward him them? Imo sportsmen shouldn't receive the top awards until after they have retired
Shadow Demon UK
31-05-2007, 17:46
I don't, Knighthood is pretty much the highest honour he can receive without it getting complicated, what happens if he gets it when Blair goes and then leads us to European Championship success, how does the nation reward him them? Imo sportsmen shouldn't receive the top awards until after they have retired
Well he basically has by going to America :shrug:
I think what he has done so far should be rewarded, like Sir Alex Ferguson, he won the the treble and got a knighthood, that didn't stop him going on to win more competitions. Many people who get knighthoods carry on to do more great things, i don't see the problem with giving it to him now, i think he deserves it.
I don't, Knighthood is pretty much the highest honour he can receive without it getting complicated, what happens if he gets it when Blair goes and then leads us to European Championship success, how does the nation reward him them? Imo sportsmen shouldn't receive the top awards until after they have retired
have to agree with that plus although he does do some charity work with the amount they earn they have to give some away anyway
it's the equivalent of me giving 50p to charity from my earnings. Does that mean I should get a knighthood ?
Shadow Demon UK
31-05-2007, 17:50
have to agree with that plus although he does do some charity work with the amount they earn they have to give some away anyway
it's the equivalent of me giving 50p to charity from my earnings. Does that mean I should get a knighthood ?
So how do you know how much he gives to charity then? I bet it's a lot more than you think. It's not just about giving money to charaties, it's about raising awareness and getting more people involved with the charity etc, which he does a lot of. Also he has set up soccer schools all over the world which adds to the list of things he has done/achieved.
TheDaddy
31-05-2007, 17:54
Well he basically has by going to America :shrug:
I think what he has done so far should be rewarded, like Sir Alex Ferguson, he won the the treble and got a knighthood, that didn't stop him going on to win more competitions. Many people who get knighthoods carry on to do more great things, i don't see the problem with giving it to him now, i think he deserves it.
Fergie will be in work until he dies and besides he isn't involved with any of the national teams, thats a big difference imo
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It's not just about giving money to charaties.
and when you think what his hourly rate is at his club, the time he donates to charity really is worth something
Ranieri resigns from Parma post (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6710331.stm).......
If the speculation is to be believed, he well may be taking charge at Manchester City, I for one will be glad to see him back, he is a nice bloke.
so we've had Ranieri and Houllier resign in the last week. What i don't like abouthtis is that just like Big Sam they just resign and then get another job a week later without their original club getting any compensation at all. Shows a lot of loyalty :D
TheDaddy
01-06-2007, 10:27
so we've had Ranieri and Houllier resign in the last week. What i don't like abouthtis is that just like Big Sam they just resign and then get another job a week later without their original club getting any compensation at all. Shows a lot of loyalty :D
Houllier did say that he was going to take a year off, time will tell if he has any integrity
Houllier did say that he was going to take a year off, time will tell if he has any integrity
didn't read that comment from him so thanks for pointing that out.. have to wait and see if it is true
TheDaddy
01-06-2007, 11:24
He could be the final piece of the jigsaw, a petulant brat for sure, with undoubted quality and ability, pretty cheap to I'd bet, considering today's vastly over inflated prices
Manchester United's summer shopping spree is set to continue with a move for Bolton's Nicolas Anelka. (Various)
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More miss reporting from the Mirror
Manchester United's signing of Anderson is set to be probed by the Premier League. It fears the Brazilian's move could mirror Carlos Tevez's deal at West Ham that involved third-party ownership. (Mirror)
It isn't against the rules for a player to be owned by a third party, where do they get their information from Dave Whelan?
Shadow Demon UK
01-06-2007, 11:49
He could be the final piece of the jigsaw, a petulant brat for sure, with undoubted quality and ability, pretty cheap to I'd bet, considering today's vastly over inflated prices
Manchester United's summer shopping spree is set to continue with a move for Bolton's Nicolas Anelka. (Various)
He's a good player for a team like Bolton or Man city but i don't think he has the quality to play for the premiership champions anymore, i don't think this deal will be happening and if it does i doubt he will be playing a big role in the first team.
More miss reporting from the Mirror
Manchester United's signing of Anderson is set to be probed by the Premier League. It fears the Brazilian's move could mirror Carlos Tevez's deal at West Ham that involved third-party ownership. (Mirror)
It isn't against the rules for a player to be owned by a third party, where do they get their information from Dave Whelan?
And seeing that the deal hasn't actually been made yet i find it difficult to see how they can actually probe it and how the mirror know the exact details of the deal to write an article about it.
TheDaddy
01-06-2007, 12:00
He's a good player for a team like Bolton or Man city but i don't think he has the quality to play for the premiership champions anymore, i don't think this deal will be happening and if it does i doubt he will be playing a big role in the first team.
I think he is too good for teams like that, he's on a different level to them and the style of football doesn't suit him either, plus unlike most of your strikers, he is a goal scorer, not forgetting the desire that he will have to really achieve something, I would say the only 'top' club he has played for is Real Madrid and he didn't have the best of times there, he must know that this would be his last chance, if the deal did go through I think he could be sensational for you guys
I think he is too good for teams like that, he's on a different level to them and the style of football doesn't suit him either, plus unlike most of your strikers, he is a goal scorer, not forgetting the desire that he will have to really achieve something, I would say the only 'top' club he has played for is Real Madrid and he didn't have the best of times there, he must know that this would be his last chance, if the deal did go through I think he could be sensational for you guys
well i hate to say it but he was at Arsenal too so he's played for two top clubs.
I'd rather than Huntelaar or Alves really i think there is too much baggage with Anelka that will always stop him reaching the highest level.. he's got a lot of natural talent but somehow off pitch things always get in the way of that.. he's just a journeyman now looking for as much wages a week as he can get.. he's go to United for that reason alone IMO
TheDaddy
01-06-2007, 12:57
well i hate to say it but he was at Arsenal too so he's played for two top clubs.
I'd rather than Huntelaar or Alves really i think there is too much baggage with Anelka that will always stop him reaching the highest level.. he's got a lot of natural talent but somehow off pitch things always get in the way of that.. he's just a journeyman now looking for as much wages a week as he can get.. he's go to United for that reason alone IMO
I don't think Arsenal are a top club, I believe they call them 'super' clubs, teams like Inter, AC, Barcelona, Real, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and perhaps even Liverpool, teams that have dominated the leagues for generations with massive world wide fan bases and traditions, not to mention fabulous resources, I would say teams like Arsenal fall into the second tier, a huge club but not quite super, imo
I believe Alves isn't an out and out striker, he maybe to similar to Scholes and Rooney to fit in and lacking the ability of some one like Tevez to adapt his game enough, as for Huntelaar, well Kuyt was a top player in the Dutch league, the Premier league is a big step up, there's a risk he might not be up to it
He could be the final piece of the jigsaw, a petulant brat for sure, with undoubted quality and ability, pretty cheap to I'd bet, considering today's vastly over inflated prices
Manchester United's summer shopping spree is set to continue with a move for Bolton's Nicolas Anelka. (Various)
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More miss reporting from the Mirror
Manchester United's signing of Anderson is set to be probed by the Premier League. It fears the Brazilian's move could mirror Carlos Tevez's deal at West Ham that involved third-party ownership. (Mirror)
It isn't against the rules for a player to be owned by a third party, where do they get their information from Dave Whelan?
According to The Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premiership/manchester_united/article1867943.ece) there are still e few players in the reckoning.
It emerged yesterday that Nicolas Anelka, of Bolton Wanderers, is among those whom United are monitoring, but it is a long list, headed by Eto’o and taking in names such as Dimitar Berbatov (Tottenham Hotspur), Fernando Torres (Atlético Madrid), Klaas Jan Huntelaar (Ajax), Carlos Tévez (West Ham United) and Michael Owen (Newcastle United). Ferguson would prefer to add a reliable goalscorer to ease the burden on Rooney and Ronaldo, given uncertainty over the fitness of Louis Saha, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and Alan Smith..
Peter Kenyon must be on holiday
DocDutch
01-06-2007, 19:53
I don't think Arsenal are a top club, I believe they call them 'super' clubs, teams like Inter, AC, Barcelona, Real, Man Utd, Bayern Munich and perhaps even Liverpool, teams that have dominated the leagues for generations with massive world wide fan bases and traditions, not to mention fabulous resources, I would say teams like Arsenal fall into the second tier, a huge club but not quite super, imo
I believe Alves isn't an out and out striker, he maybe to similar to Scholes and Rooney to fit in and lacking the ability of some one like Tevez to adapt his game enough, as for Huntelaar, well Kuyt was a top player in the Dutch league, the Premier league is a big step up, there's a risk he might not be up to it
Agree with you on Huntelaar mate, he needs to stay another 2 years in Holland to build himself up to bigger leagues. Holland is a good training ground (see Ronaldo, Romario, Alex, and you name them)
In my opinion Kuyt has left Feyenoord also a year too early as at liverpool he hasnt done that great but then saying that he isnt a real all out striker but more of a handy man ie bergkamp.
TheDaddy
01-06-2007, 22:20
Peter Kenyon must be on holiday
If the newspaper reports are true he might as well be, no money for new players, no money for new contracts, seems like they are setting Jose up to fail, especially as it's been accidentally leaked that a new manager would have substantial resources to play with, joke of a club imo :td:
If the newspaper reports are true he might as well be, no money for new players, no money for new contracts, seems like they are setting Jose up to fail, especially as it's been accidentally leaked that a new manager would have substantial resources to play with, joke of a club imo :td:
It will be a shame if its true regarding Jose, as for Kenyon I couldn't give a f...........;)
TheDaddy
02-06-2007, 10:13
It will be a shame if its true regarding Jose, as for Kenyon I couldn't give a f...........;)
They won't allow this to happen, surely, not because of the egos of the chairman and manager?
Chelsea have left Frank Lampard out of their new kit launch, fuelling speculation that he will leave Stamford Bridge. (The Sun)
Just a bit of trivia........on Frank and Frank :erm:
Both Lampards played for England a feat only ever matched by the Easthams and the Cloughs.
Originally Posted by TheDaddy http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/88/33614826-close-season-gossip-and-rumour-thread-post-34319419.html#post34319419) They won't allow this to happen, surely, not because of the egos of the chairman and manager?
Chelsea have left Frank Lampard out of their new kit launch, fuelling speculation that he will leave Stamford Bridge. (The Sun)Who knows what's going on at Stamford Bridge, from a personal point of view I couldn't care less, but then I would say that wouldn't I...
I am sure Frank Junior will find another club who needs a link man....
Maybe he will go home to his beloved Hammers or even Swansea :)
Yeah, I only found out last month he used to be one of ours :D
TheDaddy
03-06-2007, 19:17
In the week that proposals for 'safe terraced areas' were being voiced, it seems like a tragic twist of fate, that something should happen :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/6715717.stm
In the past, for my own selfish reasons I have been quite vocal on this subject, tragedy like this puts things in perspective really, we can't allow it to happen here again
In the week that proposals for 'safe terraced areas' were being voiced, it seems like a tragic twist of fate, that something should happen :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/6715717.stm
In the past, for my own selfish reasons I have been quite vocal on this subject, tragedy like this puts things in perspective really, we can't allow it to happen here again
I don't think it will happen here again (hopefully), I think the basic infrastructure has now been catered for.
After reading about this story, it would seem that the stadium concerned, plus other stadiums in that country (Zambia) are not up to general standards let alone our standards.
Insufficient entry/exit areas seems to be the problem here.
And to think that the next World Cup competition is being held in South Africa is a bit worrying.
The Daddy........Terraced areas, i.e. standing at grounds is what I am sure you mean?
I can't see that being allowed again at grounds that have a certain capacity at each match, I guess you will have to live with it.
"Safe terraced areas" is a new concept also, what organisation is likely to accept responsibility for that?. The Premier League, I doubt it. The Football League, I doubt it. The FA, I doubt it.
Clubs will do what they are told also, even if the fans hold a strong voice on the subject, I hope that is what you meant :)
My sympathies go out to the bereaved families of the Chililabombwe stadium disaster.
Apparently, Figo has begged Spurs to sign him on a free transfer.
Honestly!
Apparently, Figo has begged Spurs to sign him on a free transfer.
Honestly!
Also, Jol is in for Giggs apparently :)
Link (http://www.squarefootball.net/article/transfer.asp?tid=456)
TheDaddy
04-06-2007, 09:59
I don't think it will happen here again (hopefully), I think the basic infrastructure has now been catered for.
After reading about this story, it would seem that the stadium concerned, plus other stadiums in that country (Zambia) are not up to general standards let alone our standards.
Insufficient entry/exit areas seems to be the problem here.
And to think that the next World Cup competition is being held in South Africa is a bit worrying.
The Daddy........Terraced areas, i.e. standing at grounds is what I am sure you mean?
I can't see that being allowed again at grounds that have a certain capacity at each match, I guess you will have to live with it.
"Safe terraced areas" is a new concept also, what organisation is likely to accept responsibility for that?. The Premier League, I doubt it. The Football League, I doubt it. The FA, I doubt it.
Clubs will do what they are told also, even if the fans hold a strong voice on the subject, I hope that is what you meant :)
My sympathies go out to the bereaved families of the Chililabombwe stadium disaster.
Interesting points, talking of infrastructure, remember how bad our stadiums were before all seater stadiums, look at how bad the terracing is in Spain and Italy easily on par with third world conditions, that is one of he plus points of them, our fans are no longer treated like animals and herded into pens.
I do live with it by going from being a season ticket holder, to going to less than one match a season, although the fact things like this disaster still happen, means I'll be a lot less vocal in the future
Safe terracing isn't new, Germany have used it successfully since 2000
The clubs themselves would probably be against it, why let someone in for £20 to stand when you can make them sit for £40, however the FSF do have influence with both the clubs and government and David Cameron himself said if the Conservatives won power they'd look on 'safe terracing' positively
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2007/05/29/sokate29.xml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6318269.stm
AFAIK the problem with Hilsborough wasn't so much the terracing, it was the fencing. All seater stadiums make it harder to stampede but not impossible. I think terraces without fences/moats would avoid another Hillsborough. Especially with now all the technolgoy to monitor crowds etc.
I do have mixed opinions about whether they should return.
Media Boy UK
04-06-2007, 11:07
Monday's gossip in the newspapers:
TRANSFER RUMOURS
Joey Barton will seal his £5.5m move to Newcastle as soon as Magpies skipper Scott Parker completes his £8m switch to West Ham. (Various)
Barton will speak with Newcastle and West Ham this week after both clubs made £5.5m bids for the fiery star. (Daily Mirror)
Newcastle have insisted on a contract clause in Barton's contract to protect the club if he is jailed over the incident with Manchester City team-mate Ousmane Dabo. (The Sun)
David Beckham has no intention of trying to escape from his £125m LA Galaxy deal in order to prolong his England career. (Daily Star)
Bolton striker Nicolas Anelka said he would not be able to turn down a potential move to Manchester United. (Various)
Manchester United defender Gabriel Heinze is at the centre of a transfer tug-of-war between Real Madrid and Barcelona. (The Sun)
Arsenal are close to signing Auxerre right-back Bakari Sagna for £6m. (The Sun)
West Brom midfielder Jason Koumas has revealed that Aston Villa have joined the race to sign him. (Daily Mail)
Celtic boss Gordon Strachan has been told he will have to pay £9m for Jason Koumas and West Brom team-mate Diomansy Kamara. (Daily Mirror)
Sheffield Wednesday are poised to cash in on Chris Brunt by selling him to Wigan for £2m. (Daily Express)
Wigan are understood to have agreed a deal to sign Titus Bramble on a free transfer. (The Times)
West Ham are looking for a reserve keeper after releasing Roy Carroll. (The Times)
Bolton boss Sammy Lee opened talks with Antoine Sibierski in a bid to pinch him from under the noses of Wigan. (Daily Mirror)
Coventry boss Iain Dowie is set to snap up left-back Gary Borrowdale from Crystal Palace. (Daily Mirror)
Sunderland boss Roy Keane wants to make a £2m bid for West Brom skipper Paul Robinson. (Daily Mirror)
Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce spent the weekend in Cardiff trying to tie up a deal for Czech Republic centre-half David Rozehnal. (Daily Mirror)
Leicester boss Martin Allen has joined the £1m chase for Marek Saganowski. (Daily Mirror)
Tottenham are turning to Portugal defender Jose Bosingwa as they prepare for life without Pascal Chimbonda. (The Sun)
OTHER GOSSIP
If England fail to make it to the finals of Euro 2008 it will cost the Football Association £40m. (The Sun)
It gets even worse, with estimates of lost revenue and renegotiating TV deals meaning it could mean missing out on £60m. (Daily Star)
The FA has launched an investigation into major security lapses which could have threatened the safety of England players at Wembley. (Daily Star)
Micky Adams wants to take over as manager of MK Dons. (Daily Mail, Daily Mirror)
FINALLY
Keith Hackett, the head of referees, says the outstanding form of Cristiano Ronaldo and Didier Drogba is largely because they have stopped diving. (The Guardian)
Alcoholic sponsors will be taken off the front of children's replica shirts in a bid to help combat underage drinking. (Daily Star)
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Info from BBC Sport Online.
TheDaddy
05-06-2007, 20:53
Good, sooner he goes the better :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/aston_villa/6724387.stm
Any ideas why he was unhappy at the club ?
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England coach Steve McClaren says he is unconcerned by suggestions defeat to Estonia in Wednesday's Euro 2008 qualifier could cost him his job. England are fourth in Group E, five points behind leaders Croatia, who play second-place Russia on Wednesday.
McClaren said: "I understand why people will be thinking that and asking that but we're not even contemplating that, we're here to win a football match.
"It's not even an issue for me. I'm just focusing on the game."If it wasn't such an important game, I would hope that England would lose ;)
BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6719429.stm)
TheDaddy
05-06-2007, 21:45
Any ideas why he was unhappy at the club ?
He'll say it's because the club turned down bids from Man Utd and Arsenal this time last year or it'll be because the club didn't support him enough when the accusations about him taking half a season of were flying about
The real reason he is going imo, is because the boss doesn't want him, he saw his character over the new year and I would imagine he was distinctly unimpressed
Monday's gossip in the newspapers:
TRANSFER RUMOURS
Joey Barton will seal his £5.5m move to Newcastle as soon as Magpies skipper Scott Parker completes his £8m switch to West Ham. (Various)
Barton will speak with Newcastle and West Ham this week after both clubs made £5.5m bids for the fiery star. (Daily Mirror)
Newcastle have insisted on a contract clause in Barton's contract to protect the club if he is jailed over the incident with Manchester City team-mate Ousmane Dabo. (The Sun)
David Beckham has no intention of trying to escape from his £125m LA Galaxy deal in order to prolong his England career. (Daily Star)
Bolton striker Nicolas Anelka said he would not be able to turn down a potential move to Manchester United. (Various)
Manchester United defender Gabriel Heinze is at the centre of a transfer tug-of-war between Real Madrid and Barcelona. (The Sun)
Arsenal are close to signing Auxerre right-back Bakari Sagna for £6m. (The Sun)
West Brom midfielder Jason Koumas has revealed that Aston Villa have joined the race to sign him. (Daily Mail)
Celtic boss Gordon Strachan has been told he will have to pay £9m for Jason Koumas and West Brom team-mate Diomansy Kamara. (Daily Mirror)
Sheffield Wednesday are poised to cash in on Chris Brunt by selling him to Wigan for £2m. (Daily Express)
Wigan are understood to have agreed a deal to sign Titus Bramble on a free transfer. (The Times)
West Ham are looking for a reserve keeper after releasing Roy Carroll. (The Times)
Bolton boss Sammy Lee opened talks with Antoine Sibierski in a bid to pinch him from under the noses of Wigan. (Daily Mirror)
Coventry boss Iain Dowie is set to snap up left-back Gary Borrowdale from Crystal Palace. (Daily Mirror)
Sunderland boss Roy Keane wants to make a £2m bid for West Brom skipper Paul Robinson. (Daily Mirror)
Newcastle boss Sam Allardyce spent the weekend in Cardiff trying to tie up a deal for Czech Republic centre-half David Rozehnal. (Daily Mirror)
Leicester boss Martin Allen has joined the £1m chase for Marek Saganowski. (Daily Mirror)
Tottenham are turning to Portugal defender Jose Bosingwa as they prepare for life without Pascal Chimbonda. (The Sun)
OTHER GOSSIP
If England fail to make it to the finals of Euro 2008 it will cost the Football Association £40m. (The Sun)
It gets even worse, with estimates of lost revenue and renegotiating TV deals meaning it could mean missing out on £60m. (Daily Star)
The FA has launched an investigation into major security lapses which could have threatened the safety of England players at Wembley. (Daily Star)
Micky Adams wants to take over as manager of MK Dons. (Daily Mail, Daily Mirror)
FINALLY
Keith Hackett, the head of referees, says the outstanding form of Cristiano Ronaldo and Didier Drogba is largely because they have stopped diving. (The Guardian)
Alcoholic sponsors will be taken off the front of children's replica shirts in a bid to help combat underage drinking. (Daily Star)
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All I can draw from that it is that is about time you started reading a quality paper,;):D and I include the Groniad and the Murdoch Times in that observation.
TheDaddy
05-06-2007, 23:02
All I can draw from that it is that is about time you started reading a quality paper,;):D and I include the Groniad and the Murdoch Times in that observation.
Well I suppose you could also say that cutting and pasting entire articles breaks this site's T&C and perhaps the BBC wouldn't be to pleased either ;)
Sorry Sherer, but VDS may be No1 for a bit longer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6707485.stm)... ;)
Manchester United goalkeeper Ben Foster needs surgery on a cruciate knee ligament injury and will miss the start of the season.
Saaf_laandon_mo
06-06-2007, 14:32
I think West Ham are looking pretty good for next season...... Scott Parker, and I reckon Adam Smith might end up there too.
TheDaddy
06-06-2007, 14:39
Adam Smith might end up there too.
Adam Smith, at least the books would balance :D ;)
Sorry Sherer, but VDS may be No1 for a bit longer (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6707485.stm)... ;)
yeah I read that a few days ago. Been away for a few days so not had a chance to mention it.
Not looking forward to that next season. I'm sure at his age he will only get worse but i'm prepared to give him a chance.
Was the the England game at Wembley last Friday. great day out but not th best England performance I have ever seen.
Gerrard and Lampard seemed to play better though with Gerrard staying deep and in the holding role and everytime he went forward he shouted and pointed at Frank to cover for him.
Good view of the pitch too and I was in the top tier
Sorry to be such a numpty, I seem to have missed something, why is Rooney not playing for England, is he injured?
Jim.:dunce:
TheDaddy
06-06-2007, 16:23
Sorry to be such a numpty, I seem to have missed something, why is Rooney not playing for England, is he injured?
Jim.:dunce:
I think he is suspended ;)
I think he is suspended ;)
DOH, yes I remember now, thanks.
jim.
NoKnowledge
07-06-2007, 17:07
Newcastle are making waves in this post season. Mike Ashley is set to take over after buying out Freddy Shepherds stake (Mike Ashley now has 69.6% and needs 5.4% to delist the club from the LSE);
They have a new manager;
Signed Mark Viduka, and Joey Barton has agreed to join (although he shouldn't even be allowed to play in the top flight.)
Do you think they will improve from their current league position (14th)?
Newcastle are making waves in this post season. Mike Ashley is set to take over after buying out Freddy Shepherds stake (Mike Ashley now has 69.6% and needs 5.4% to delist the club from the LSE);
They have a new manager;
Signed Mark Viduka, and Joey Barton has agreed to join (although he shouldn't even be allowed to play in the top flight.)
Do you think they will improve from their current league position (14th)?
It depends on how you define "improve"...as someone who has a soft spot for Sunderland , I hope their position improves next year, by going one better...getting relegated ;)
TheDaddy
09-06-2007, 13:23
Joey Barton has agreed to join (although he shouldn't even be allowed to play in the top flight.)
He's not signed yet, the boy has no shame :td:
Joey Barton's move from Manchester City to Newcastle has been held up by his demand for a £300,000 loyalty payment from City. (Independent)
NoKnowledge
09-06-2007, 21:01
Somebody must have seen the Lionel Messi goal against Espanyol.
It was a Maradona 'hand of god' goal
Yep, it seems to be an Argentinian trait :mad:
Nistelrooy has equalised in the other game to level it, all we need now is a Beckham winner :)
Oh well, maybe Zaragoza haven't read the script.
Latest Zaragoza 2 Real Madrid 1
Shadow Demon UK
09-06-2007, 21:31
The Madrid game has been excellent so far but i cannot believe the referee didn't see that handball in the Barca game, if that wins them the league it will be ridiculous :td:
Madrid nick a late equaliser from guess who, so Madrid remain top on GD, roll on next week
Shadow Demon UK
09-06-2007, 21:59
Madrid nick a late equaliser from guess who, so Madrid remain top on GD, roll on next week
Great match :tu:
BTW Madrid are not top because of goal difference as places in la liga are seperated by games against each other, so because they had the better results against Barca they are top, Barca actually have a much better goal difference.
Great match :tu:
BTW Madrid are not top because of goal difference as places in la liga are seperated by games against each other, so because they had the better results against Barca they are top, Barca actually have a much better goal difference.
I stand corrected :dunce:
TheDaddy
10-06-2007, 11:07
If you can get him, you should, providing he doesn't want to stay with us of course
Manchester United are close to sealing a deal to land West Ham's Argentine star Carlos Tevez but face a battle with Inter Milan. (News of the World/The People)
TheDaddy
10-06-2007, 17:52
Wtf
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has hinted there is a clause in the England midfielder's contract which could allow them to keep him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6739101.stm
Wtf
Real Madrid president Ramon Calderon has hinted there is a clause in the England midfielder's contract which could allow them to keep him.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6739101.stm
I doubt that Beckham would go back on his word, would he? :erm:
I doubt that Beckham would go back on his word, would he? :erm:
Well... Rumour has it that Beckham is going through a rough patch with his missus. She's the one that's dragging him over to the US by the scrotum. If things got that bad between them, he may elect to not go.
However, the septics would lynch him though if he ever went back over there.
Well... Rumour has it that Beckham is going through a rough patch with his missus. She's the one that's dragging him over to the US by the scrotum. If things got that bad between them, he may elect to not go.
However, the septics would lynch him though if he ever went back over there.
For the benefit of those who are from oop north, what's a septic ??
For the benefit of those who are from oop north, what's a septic ??
septic -> septic tank -> yank
i think maybe Beckham regrets signing that US contract so early as loads of clubs will be wanting him now and he could have stayed at Real.. still that's the price you pay for being under the thumb
pedantic
10-06-2007, 21:32
septic -> septic tank -> yank
Even I knew that one, and I'm as thick as a whale omelette. oops:
Mind you, I lived darn sarf for a while.
Funnily enough, my ex girlfriends dad (who's a cockney) used to say that northerners use cockney rhyming slang more than cockneys do. :D
TheDaddy
11-06-2007, 14:12
Funnily enough, my ex girlfriends dad (who's a cockney) used to say that northerners use cockney rhyming slang more than cockneys do. :D
To true, the only people here I know of that use it regularly are on Eastenders :D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/nottm_forest/6744827.stm
Forest win race to capture Lennon
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/06/17.jpg
Nottingham Forest have beaten a host of clubs to sign former Celtic midfielder Neil Lennon on a one-year contract.
TheDaddy
12-06-2007, 13:32
Allardyce said: "They're out of order. I'm flabbergasted and want the situation resolved."
What are you on about, his behaviour forced them to sell him, it's a pity football has no morals, because he should have been sacked and left to rot in obscurity with no club wanting to sign him, sadly as shown already with Lee Hughes football don't work like that :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6744017.stm
TheDaddy
13-06-2007, 08:26
Well, lets hope he asks the right questions and isn't as miss informed as that pagan of virtue Dave Whelan, I see that Wigan are now involved with a players contract irregularities and honest Dave is being investigated for miss leading the Stock Exchange, which should come as little shock because he has been miss leading people about our case all along, still what should we expect from some one who holds fans in such low esteem, a judge described his business as a cartel
Prime Minister Tony Blair may be asked a question in Parliament next Wednesday over Sheffield United's controversial relegation from the Premier League. (Daily Star)
Prime Minister Tony Blair may be asked a question in Parliament next Wednesday over Sheffield United's controversial relegation from the Premier League. (Daily Star)
going a bit OT but i wonder if anyone from any constituancy has actually asked their MP to talk to Tony Blair about this ? or are they just wasting time again what on earth is he meant to do about it anyway ?
TheDaddy
13-06-2007, 11:04
going a bit OT but i wonder if anyone from any constituancy has actually asked their MP to talk to Tony Blair about this ? or are they just wasting time again what on earth is he meant to do about it anyway ?
Clive Betts MP has been pretty vocal on this, that is when he's not accepting 'gifts' from McDonalds and then whining about Mcjobs in Parliament or doctoring letters to get his rent boy lover a visa, sounds like just the chap to fight your corner with honesty and integrity
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=134438&command=displayContent&sourceNode=134248&contentPK=17552467&folderPk=78750&pNodeId=133999
Forest sign Crowe
Jason Crowe will become Nottingham Forest's second signing of the summer with the defender set to complete his long-awaited move from Northampton.
The out-of-contract star ironed out the final details of his free transfer on a visit to the City Ground earlier this week - allowing Colin Calderwood to end his year-long pursuit of the 28-year-old.
Boro agree terms with Turkish player Tuncay Sanli. Apparantly the Turkish fans say it's the signing of the season if we get him.
http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1~1044805,00.html
I see the Leeds United Gravy Train keeps on going....
In a Commons motion Liberal Democrat MP Phil Willis (Harrogate & Knaresborough) called for an inquiry into whether criminal activity had taken place.
He has criticised how the club went into administration with debts of £35m. A Leeds United statement said: "We challenge him to repeat his allegations outside the House of Commons and we will see him in court if he does."
So the club can afford a court case. Amazing stuff :rolleyes:
BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6748465.stm)
Boro agree terms with Turkish player Tuncay Sanli. Apparantly the Turkish fans say it's the signing of the season if we get him.
http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1~1044805,00.html (http://www.mfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,1%7E1044805,00.html)
No, the signing of the season happened yesterday.
Sund*rland and D*rby wanted him as well.
Opening weekend fixtures - Saturday 11 August
Arsenal v Fulham
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Bolton v Newcastle
Chelsea v Birmingham
Derby v Portsmouth
Everton v Wigan
Man Utd v Reading
Middlesbrough v Blackburn
Sunderland v Tottenham
West Ham v Man City
Tuesday, 14 August 2007
Birmingham v Sunderland
Portsmouth v Man Utd
Reading v Chelsea
Tottenham v Everton
Wigan v Middlesbrough
Wednesday 15 August
Blackburn v Aston Villa
Fulham v Bolton
Liverpool v West Ham
Man City v Derby
Newcastle v Arsenal
Saturday 18 August
Birmingham v West Ham
Blackburn v Arsenal
Fulham v Middlesbrough
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man City v Man Utd
Newcastle v Aston Villa
Portsmouth v Bolton
Reading v Everton
Tottenham v Derby
Wigan v Sunderland
Apparently Spurs have made a 17m offer for Darren Bent.
Its just crazy. The one person Spurs doesn't need is a striker. Unless Defoe and Mido are definitely going.
Saaf_laandon_mo
14-06-2007, 12:07
Opening weekend fixtures - Saturday 11 August
Arsenal v Fulham
Aston Villa v Liverpool
Bolton v Newcastle
Chelsea v Birmingham
Derby v Portsmouth
Everton v Wigan
Man Utd v Reading
Middlesbrough v Blackburn
Sunderland v Tottenham
West Ham v Man City
Tuesday, 14 August 2007
Birmingham v Sunderland
Portsmouth v Man Utd
Reading v Chelsea
Tottenham v Everton
Wigan v Middlesbrough
Wednesday 15 August
Blackburn v Aston Villa
Fulham v Bolton
Liverpool v West Ham
Man City v Derby
Newcastle v Arsenal
Saturday 18 August
Birmingham v West Ham
Blackburn v Arsenal
Fulham v Middlesbrough
Liverpool v Chelsea
Man City v Man Utd
Newcastle v Aston Villa
Portsmouth v Bolton
Reading v Everton
Tottenham v Derby
Wigan v Sunderland
god thats a lot of rumours ;)
sorry, couldnt resist..............
TheDaddy
14-06-2007, 13:55
Apparently Spurs have made a 17m offer for Darren Bent.
Its just crazy. The one person Spurs doesn't need is a striker. Unless Defoe and Mido are definitely going.
Apparently we have offered him £25 000 a week more than what your current top earner (Robbie Keane) gets :shocked: :p:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6751387.stm
Apparently we have offered him £25 000 a week more than what your current top earner (Robbie Keane) gets :shocked: :p:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6751387.stm
Bent turns down move to West Ham......
Charlton striker Darren Bent has turned down a move to West Ham after the two clubs agreed a fee. "We set a valuation for Darren and West Ham were the only club prepared to meet that valuation," said Charlton chief executive Peter Varney.
"This morning we gave them permission to speak to Darren, which he did, and he has decided not to join West Ham."
Strange as West Ham were the only club prepared to meet that valuation, whatever that was.
"West Ham have been considering a number of options in terms of a new striker for the club and will now be pursuing alternatives."Maybe the lure of White Hart lane is too great, who knows?
Just speculating really ;)
BBC Sport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6751387.stm)
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Opening weekend fixtures - Saturday 11 August
Bolton v Newcastle
How Ironic is that :rolleyes:
How Ironic is that :rolleyes:
Lmao, I know. It's probably 1 reason why the idiots play Bolton first, you know with big fella going there. I hope Bolton win that match. :angel:
TheDaddy
15-06-2007, 08:36
Maybe the lure of White Hart lane is too great, who knows?
Just speculating really ;)
I think it might be the lure of Champions League with Liverpool ;)
FIVE CLUBS NAMED IN STEVENS FINDINGS
Five Premier League clubs have been named by Lord Stevens as having breached transfer regulations.
Chelsea, Newcastle, Bolton, Middlesbrough and Portsmouth have all been named by the former Metropolitan Police commissioner in his final report to the Premier League.
The clubs are set to face a further investigation from the Football Association but it is understood that Newcastle and Bolton are viewed as the most serious miscreants.
Stevens has also expressed concern about 15 agents and third parties involved in some 17 transfers.
Stevens' report specifically lists concerns about two managers.
One is Sam Allardyce, and a conflict of interest with his former agent son Craig and Bolton Wanderers.
The other is Graeme Souness, with Stevens reporting "inconsistencies in evidence" provided by the former Newcastle manager and Kenneth Shepherd, son of Magpies chairman Freddy Shepherd.
Of the 17 transfers, four relate to Newcastle signings (Emre Belozoglu, Jean Alain Boumsong, Amady Faye, Albert Luque), four to Bolton (Ali Al-Habsi, Tal Ben Haim, Blessing Kaku, Julio Correia), three to Chelsea (Didier Drogba, Petr Cech, Michael Essien), three to Portsmouth (Collins Mbesuma, Benjani Mwaruwari, Aliou Cisse) and two to Middlesbrough (Aiyegbeni Yakubu and Fabio Rochemback) while one transfer has not been disclosed
http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2412750,00.html
TheDaddy
15-06-2007, 17:19
Pini Zavi was mentioned to, he'd didn't co operate with the 'Quest', good job they forgot about Ashley Cole as well ;)
Link
(http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1009/1009261_barca_offer_eidur_as_pique_bait.html)Eidur Gudjohnsen will be offered as bait to Manchester United by Barcelona as they seek to sign young defender Gerard Pique.I am a bit unsure about this. I didn't see any of Pique's games in Spain, but when he played for Utd, I thought that he showed promise for the future. I wouldn't mind Gudjohnsen being at Utd, but I'm not sure about losing Pique...
Why is it that Chelsea are so bothered about what Man Utd are doing?
The Dutchman, a personal adviser to Blues owner Roman Abramovich and one of their main scouts, is known as one of the best judges of talent in Europe.
Talking to Dutch television, de Visser revealed that he and Chelsea were well aware of Nani - but he was not worth the money that United paid.
"Of course we knew about Nani for a long time," he told Tien TV.
Sour Grapes?
Sky Sports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=472208&CPID=8&clid=8&lid=2&title=United+slammed+over+Nani&channel=football_home&)
TheDaddy
17-06-2007, 19:30
Who needs Darren Bent?
Striker Carlos Tevez, who has been linked with a move to Inter Milan, is on the verge of agreeing a deal to stay at West Ham, which would cost the London club £9m for the next season. (News of the World)
Latest: Real Madrid 0 Mallorca 1 :erm:
Latest: Tarragona 0 Barcelona 1
Beckham needs a new script writer at the moment :)
Alls well that ends well. Madrid win 3-1. England U21's win 2-0 and Lewis wins again, good weekend allround.
jim.
This is a surprise if the claim is to be believed....
Manchester United remain tight-lipped over claims by Sampdoria striker Fabio Quagliarella that he is being targeted by the Premier League champions. Quagliarella, 23, says United have increased a reported £10m bid to beat off opposition from top Serie A clubs
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6767039.stm
pedantic
20-06-2007, 10:44
Forest consider City Ground exit (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nottinghamshire/6220982.stm)
It has been reported that the club will leave its City Ground home in the centre of Nottingham for a site to the south in Clifton
I'm glad that's not the Clifton I know, there's enough rabble up there as it is. :D
I'm glad that's not the Clifton I know, there's enough rabble up there as it is. :DIf you're not from Clifton, it must be the Valley then ;)
pedantic
20-06-2007, 12:57
If you're not from Clifton, it must be the Valley then ;)
I could be though, and am having a dig at my own area. ;)
Back on topic: It seems shearer wouldn't like to see Craig Bellamy (http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/07/06/20/SOCCER_Bellamy.html) back at Newcastle. :D
I'm glad that's not the Clifton I know, there's enough rabble up there as it is. :D
Actually, it may be worse:
Clifton itself is a sprawling conurbation which was at one time the largest council estate in Europe. However, since the 1980s most of the houses have passed from council to private ownership. Enjoying a sometimes deserved reputation for social problems such as crime and poor housing, Clifton (like some of Nottingham's immediate estates) has benefited in recent years from redevelopment and regeneration work initiated by the city council.
TheDaddy
20-06-2007, 15:57
I am sure the club will live on in another guise but it's a shame never the less, 128 years of history, gone :(
http://www.scarboroughfc.com/
Shadow Demon UK
20-06-2007, 20:23
How unlucky were the Under 21's tonight, losing 13-12 on penalties after being 1-0 with only one minute left in the match, great charachter shown but will England ever win another penalty shootout?
How unlucky were the Under 21's tonight, losing 13-12 on penalties after being 1-0 with only one minute left in the match, great charachter shown but will England ever win another penalty shootout?
Not until their keeper is prevented from coming two yards off his line every time, and our keeper stops diving to one side before the other side have even put the ball on the spot.:rolleyes:
I could be though, and am having a dig at my own area. ;)Well, it has to be one or the other ;)
According to 5 live Thierry Henry has signed for Barcelona, the info came from a Spanish radio station apparently.
No link yet
Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6231950.stm
TheDaddy
22-06-2007, 21:10
According to 5 live Thierry Henry has signed for Barcelona, the info came from a Spanish radio station apparently.
No link yet
Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6231950.stm
Bit of luck Wenger will go as well
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Crikey, perhaps he can work the debt of :erm:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6231624.stm
Bit of luck Wenger will go as well
And take Arsenal with him :)
More news that the Arsenel blip of being taken seriously as a major force is over.
How refreshing :)
it's been reported in the press Wenger will see out his contract and then go when that ends at the end of this season. Maybe he has already got something lined up at another club like Barca and is letting him go there a year early.
If this rumour is true I can't believe it as without him Arsenal are nothing, sure he was out a lot this season but when he was there he saved them in a few games.
It's fact now
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6231950.stm
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 13:12
This transfer sums up all that is wrong with football, £16 000 000 buys you Thierry Henry or Darren Bent :td:
But surely you can see the comedy value in watching Arsenal crumble?
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 14:01
But surely you can see the comedy value in watching Arsenal crumble?
Tbh it's all the same to me, if they win things or fail miserably, I don't care to much, the only person at that club I like and have any respect for is Wenger, I'd love it if he saw his contract out and moved to East London
DocDutch
23-06-2007, 17:50
its a shame cuz Henry is probably 1 of the best players (foreign) to grace the Premier League :)
dont know what Arsenal are going to do to replace him but it has to be something really good, otherwise more and more will follow for sure.
and yes 16m for Henry I find that a bit "cheap" really considering that a player like Shrek (oops I ment Rooney) who is not as good as Henry sells for 26m.
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 18:09
dont know what Arsenal are going to do to replace him but it has to be something really good, otherwise more and more will follow for sure.
Seem's like the papers have a good idea :(
Arsene Wenger will attempt to recruit Carlos Tevez from West Ham or bring back Nicolas Anelka in the wake of striker Thierry Henry's expected departure from the Emirates Stadium to Barcelona. (Various)
and yes 16m for Henry I find that a bit "cheap" really considering that a player like Shrek (oops I ment Rooney) who is not as good as Henry sells for 26m.
26m pays for Rooney's future too. Had Henry been considered the same talent as Rooney at that age then I'm sure he would have rated at a similar amount.
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 18:30
26m pays for Rooney's future too. Had Henry been considered the same talent as Rooney at that age then I'm sure he would have rated at a similar amount.
Yep it took a manager of Wengers class to recognise that he could be turned from a run of the mill winger into one of the planets best, a World and European champion, get seven years superb service and make £6 000 000 profit on him
SAF is doing exactly the same with Ronaldo.
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 19:02
SAF is doing exactly the same with Ronaldo.
Is he? Ronaldo has always been rated as a top prospect, unlike Henry, the two histories aren't comparable
Unlike Henry? So why did Wenger buy him?? No-one had heard of Ronaldo before SAF bought him. I'd say Henry and Ronaldo's situations are very comparable.
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 20:03
Unlike Henry? So why did Wenger buy him?? No-one had heard of Ronaldo before SAF bought him. I'd say Henry and Ronaldo's situations are very comparable.
You mean you hadn't heard of him, Gerrard Houlier wanted to sign him for Liverpool before he went to Utd for instance, when you say comparable do you mean like a Champions League final and winning the League cup? Because it looked like Henry was on the scrapheap aged 22 Where as Ronaldo was a top prospect
You mean you hadn't heard of him, Gerrard Houlier wanted to sign him for Liverpool before he went to Utd for instance, when you say comparable do you mean like a Champions League final and winning the League cup? Because it looked like Henry was on the scrapheap aged 22 Where as Ronaldo was a top prospect
Had the name 'Ronaldo' been mentioned to anyone (including yourself) pre-2003 and it would have been assumed the buck-toothed Brazillian was the subject.
'Comparable' in terms of before coming to the Premiership, both were virtual unknowns but vastly improved their game as a result.
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 20:36
'Comparable' in terms of before coming to the Premiership, both were virtual unknowns but vastly improved their game as a result.
Henry had played and scored in a World cup, so he was hardly unknown, he'd failed badly in Italy, that was the problem, it's also interesting that both were bought to replace key players and I'd agree, the Premier league has been good for them and they for it
Henry had played and scored in a World cup, so he was hardly unknown
I was referring to being unknown in the UK :D
TheDaddy
23-06-2007, 21:06
I was referring to being unknown in the UK :D
He was in my works World Cup dream team, ah the memories FC Kuntz :erm:, it had such a ring to it, named in honour of the world beater Stefan obviously ;)
i don't think Henry was a complete unknown as he and Wenger had both worked together at Monaco and also in the French youth setup at ClairFontaine the same place where he also worked with Viera so both players he already knew all about and their potential
Has nffc gone to Glastonbury? Just watching the Manics on BBC HD channel 108 and someone is waving a large Forest flag right in the middle of the crowd at the front.:)
I have most certainly not! I can't stand that sort of music :D
I am sure the club will live on in another guise but it's a shame never the less, 128 years of history, gone :(
http://www.scarboroughfc.com/
Looks like they will live on.....
Scarborough Football Club, which went bust last week, is to be reborn under the name Scarborough Athletic.Already,........ however, The failed club's McCain stadium is to be sold for development, to pay off the Inland revenue no doubt?
So it seems that they will begin at the bottom of the pile at the Northern Counties East League and share a ground with Bridlington Town.
At least they exist :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/north_yorkshire/6237112.stm
pedantic
26-06-2007, 11:52
Can someone please tell me why Uefa (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/6237684.stm) seem to think qualification for the next world cup has to be changed ? And why they think this new system is better ? My tiny brain is having a hard time comprehending this. :erm:
Fewer games. The Winners of a group will now only play 8 or 10 games whereas before they would play 12 or 14.
pedantic
26-06-2007, 12:10
Fewer games. The Winners of a group will now only play 8 or 10 games whereas before they would play 12 or 14.
I understand that part, but........
They will be determined after the bottom team in the eight larger groups is erased and the points recalculated
:wtf:
I understand that part, but........
:wtf:
The runner up with the least points will miss out on the playoffs. As there is a group of five teams the runner up in this goup would probably miss the playoffs having played fewer games. So to make it fair when calculating who misses out they remove the points gained against the bottom team in each of the groups with 6 teams.
pedantic
26-06-2007, 12:48
The runner up with the least points will miss out on the playoffs. As there is a group of five teams the runner up in this goup would probably miss the playoffs having played fewer games. So to make it fair when calculating who misses out they remove the points gained against the bottom team in each of the groups with 6 teams.
It's a possible scenario then that a team who finishes third, could claim a playoff spot over a team finishing 2nd, after the re-calculation ? This sounds like it could get complicated. :D
It's a possible scenario then that a team who finishes third, could claim a playoff spot over a team finishing 2nd, after the re-calculation ? This sounds like it could get complicated. :D
No, Its only the 9 runners up who have a chance. The one with the worst record misses out.
pedantic
26-06-2007, 14:58
No, Its only the 9 runners up who have a chance. The one with the worst record misses out.
I know that part, but there could still be a case where the team finishing in 3rd could claim a play off place, over the team finishing 2nd in a group, because of the re-calculation. Which does seem unfair, but uefa do like to tweak things I suppose.
AFAIK they only will recalculate the runners up points not the whole group so that won't happen.
I know that part, but there could still be a case where the team finishing in 3rd could claim a play off place, over the team finishing 2nd in a group, because of the re-calculation. Which does seem unfair, but uefa do like to tweak things I suppose.
that just doesn't seem fair to me.. once the group stages are over that should be it.. there shouldn't be an re-calculating and taking teams away etc.
if you finish second after all the games then you are second.. that should be it
that just doesn't seem fair to me.. once the group stages are over that should be it.. there shouldn't be an re-calculating and taking teams away etc.
if you finish second after all the games then you are second.. that should be it
That it how it is. The recalculation will only involve the runners up.
pedantic
26-06-2007, 15:24
That it how it is. The recalculation will only involve the runners up.
If it is only the runners up, then that's fair enough. The BBC article I linked to is a little ambiguous.
If it is only the runners up, then that's fair enough. The BBC article I linked to is a little ambiguous.
I maybe wrong, its not unknown. The only thing I can find on the UEFA site says the following...
Nine qualify directly
The UEFA Executive Committee made the decision at its two-day meeting in Heerenveen. As a result the nine group-winners will qualify directly, while the best eight second-placed teams will contest home and away play-off matches for the remaining four places. "It's a good compromise solution, because I wasn't really happy with the format for the last qualifying competition with groups of seven and eight teams," said UEFA President Michel Platini. Europe has 13 places available for the tournament in South Africa.
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=64/newsid=554858.html
I went to the UEFA web site myself and from reading that is seems we have the same as now to be honest.. the teams play each other and the group winners go through and the second placed teams have a play off.
it's that pretty much what we do now anyway ?
Is it just that the groups are a bit smaller now that is the change ?
Link (http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2451058,00.html)
European football's governing body have agreed to British government proposals to increase stewarding and limit the use of riot police.
TheDaddy
27-06-2007, 15:21
Hmm why let him bring in a new coach yesterday then? I'd have thought there was enough news with Sven's proposed appointment at Man City but even if there wasn't you don't need to just make it up :td:
Alan Curbishley's future as West Ham boss could be in doubt despite him leading them to Premiership safety last season. (Daily Star)
TheDaddy
27-06-2007, 21:52
A surprise choice to say the least :shocked:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6247584.stm
Link (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1009/1009960_parma_bid_for_rossi.html)
UNITED striker Giuseppe Rossi could be set for a permanent switch to Parma.
The Italian club's president Tommaso Ghirardi claims to have made an enquiry about the availability of the 20-year-old, who spent five months on loan with the Serie A team last season.
TheDaddy
27-06-2007, 22:01
Link (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1009/1009960_parma_bid_for_rossi.html)
I think I read on teletext that they had bid 6 million for him :shrug:
i think John Toshak recommended Coleman to Real Sociedad as he is the ex manager.. they have been relegated but could be a good move for Coleman
I read about Rossi a few days ago and yes the bid is meant to be about £6m.
i think it will be a shame if he goes.. i think is has the best reserve record of any striker we have ever had, although the reserve league isn't great at present.. He's meant to be brilliant and deserves to be given a chance in the first team.. Saha will be injured all the time anyway and Smith is meant to be going too so that means we only really have Rooney as a striker and he does a lot of his work outside the box anyway
just seen this on the BBC site
West Ham are willing to pay Carlos Tevez £115,000 a week to keep him at the club for another year. (Daily Mail)
sometimes i think it would be good if we had a salery cap again.. then tickets might actually be affordable again
TheDaddy
28-06-2007, 10:50
sometimes i think it would be good if we had a salery cap again.. then tickets might actually be affordable again
When you consider Darren Bent was going to cost us 40 million over 5 years in transfer fee and wages, I'd say that was a pretty good deal
I read about Rossi a few days ago and yes the bid is meant to be about £6m.
i think it will be a shame if he goes.. i think is has the best reserve record of any striker we have ever had, although the reserve league isn't great at present.. He's meant to be brilliant and deserves to be given a chance in the first team.. Saha will be injured all the time anyway and Smith is meant to be going too so that means we only really have Rooney as a striker and he does a lot of his work outside the box anywayRossi looks like he has potential to me. I just think that it was a confidence issue with him, when he played a few games the other year. I think that if he was given a chance now, after this loan period, it might be different.
Spurs are to get Bent... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6248774.stm)
Could well be at cut price too. Means Defoe and Mido are set to go then.
Spurs are to get Bent... (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6248774.stm)
Could well be at cut price too.
I wouldn't call 17m cut price. it's more than Henry and even with the age I know which one I would rather have
TheDaddy
28-06-2007, 14:17
I wouldn't call 17m cut price. it's more than Henry and even with the age I know which one I would rather have
I don't really rate him, thought he might work well with Ashton though but the price was obscene, I also think Defoe is the better finisher and it also means Robbie Keane is no longer first choice
Seems I am not the only one, not to disappointed
"I feel let down and disappointed. But it is time to move on."
However, Magnusson said he had been buoyed by the reaction from West Ham supporters in the wake of Bent's decision.
"In the aftermath of this I have been encouraged by the reaction of our supporters," said Magnusson.
"They appreciate the efforts we made and some of the feedback suggests they are less disappointed than I thought they might be.
"The view seems to be that perhaps this wasn't the best deal we could do at this stage."
I wouldn't call 17m cut price. it's more than Henry and even with the age I know which one I would rather have
We aren't paying 17m... Spurs offered 13m compromised.. I should imagine its a lot closer to that figure as we steadfastly refused to pay anywhere near 17m, even to risk losing him to West Ham.
We aren't paying 17m... Spurs offered 13m compromised.. I should imagine its a lot closer to that figure as we steadfastly refused to pay anywhere near 17m, even to risk losing him to West Ham.
serves me right for just skimming through the article and looking at the first figure :dunce:
Real Madrid have sacked their manager - what an ideal opportunity for Wenger :)
NoKnowledge
28-06-2007, 16:46
Real Madrid have sacked their manager - what an ideal opportunity for Wenger :) The rumour is, it's gonna be Getafe's Bernd Schuster. Schuster's recently been saying Beckham is too good for MLS
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Taken from the BBC Sport website
Capello, who previously managed AC Milan and AS Roma in addition to Real and Juventus, maintained his record of winning a league title with every club he has managed. So he still has a good record, wonder if any of the Premier Leagues managerless teams will take note.
TheDaddy
28-06-2007, 23:04
West Ham striker Carlos Tevez has turned down a move to Inter Milan after the Italian champions imposed a deadline for him to make a decision.
Joorabchian, though, insisted that the Hammers are in talks to keep the Argentina international but played down reports of a £115,000 per week being offered to convince him to stay. The Iranian businessman added:
"That is "absolutely not true". "He has not been offered that sum of money to stay, but it is true we are still talking and hope to come to some arrangement."
Look's like he might stay :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6251900.stm
Apparently Spurs have made a 17m offer for Darren Bent.
Its just crazy. The one person Spurs doesn't need is a striker. Unless Defoe and Mido are definitely going.
You got him
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6252254.stm
TheDaddy
29-06-2007, 08:24
Anderson's £18m move from Porto to Manchester United could collapse as he does not have enough caps to satisfy work permit rules. (Mirror)
Thought procedures were already in place so deals like this could go through, not another slow news day at the Mirror sports desk :td:
You got him
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6252254.stm
Indeed. Its a shame about the price though... But I suppose they are justified in ripping us off now.
TheDaddy
29-06-2007, 09:11
Indeed. Its a shame about the price though... But I suppose they are justified in ripping us off now.
Why because he is an English player? I have never understood why the price doubles if you want to buy English, 16 million buys you Bent or Henry and we had the same last year, 8 million bought you Andrew Johnson or Eideur Gudjohnson, both no brainers really and people wonder why teams are full of foreign players
Why because he is an English player? I have never understood why the price doubles if you want to buy English, 16 million buys you Bent or Henry and we had the same last year, 8 million bought you Andrew Johnson or Eideur Gudjohnson, both no brainers really and people wonder why teams are full of foreign players
I meant the "ripping us off" comment because of the high ticket prices and stuff. They do charge us but as this shows, they are spending the money too.
Never really though about British players costing more, but you have a point.
isn't Andersson in the Copa America and getting caps at the moment ?
i've never understood this rule anyway as these footballers have guaranteed jobs and there for guaranteed wages and taxes for the government so I can't see the problem even if he has no caps and never will. particularly at his level where the wages are so high it will generate loads of taxes
TheDaddy
29-06-2007, 10:17
isn't Andersson in the Copa America and getting caps at the moment ?
i've never understood this rule anyway as these footballers have guaranteed jobs and there for guaranteed wages and taxes for the government so I can't see the problem even if he has no caps and never will. particularly at his level where the wages are so high it will generate loads of taxes
I believe its a standard employment law, to protect British workers, why have a non EU citizen doing the job no better than 'one of our own', there are procedures in place for football so clubs don't miss out on top players, the size of the transfer, his age and his reputation will count for a lot here, although it's worth noting Arsene Wenger tried to sign Ronaldiniho before he went to Barcelona, only to fail because of work permit regulations
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There's a link on the BBC about it know ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6252368.stm
TheDaddy
29-06-2007, 14:16
He has got it on appeal :tu:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6252368.stm
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I meant the "ripping us off" comment because of the high ticket prices and stuff. They do charge us but as this shows, they are spending the money too.
I see, thought you meant Charlton ripping Spurs of as opposed to clubs fleecing fans, soz for the confusion, any idea how his transfer has gone down with your fans? He seems pretty average to me and hideously over priced
Saaf_laandon_mo
29-06-2007, 14:23
I hope Tevez stays at West Ham next season too. I dont support them but like seeing them do well.
I see, thought you meant Charlton ripping Spurs of as opposed to clubs fleecing fans, soz for the confusion, any idea how his transfer has gone down with your fans? He seems pretty average to me and hideously over priced
Can't say for sure what the majority of fans feel, but normally we're just generally happy people are coming in... But i'm not really impressed. Have far too many strikers, and due to the sheer number, they don't get regular games and so under perform. Even so, our attacking wasn't too bad last season. Our defensive record was appalling. King was out a lot, but even so, 1 player shouldn't have to make that much difference. They mone would be a lot better spent bulking up our defence. We've bough Garetht Bale, but not sure its enough.
Bent's not bad, but vastly over-priced. but the money needs to be spent in defense and defensive-midfield I think.
TheDaddy
30-06-2007, 15:38
Great player but a gamble perhaps?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6239286.stm
Sunday Express (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/11890)
West Ham are expected to announce the signing of Julien Faubert on Monday after Bordeaux accepted an offer for the France international who had been interesting Rangers.
Bordeaux president Jean-Louis Triaud again refused to name the team who had outbid Rangers, but Faubert's agent has confirmed it is West Ham who have secured a deal for the 23-year-old.
I am not sure that I have heard of him :erm:
United finally get Hargreaves (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6707995.stm) £17m / 4 years
TheDaddy
01-07-2007, 17:14
Sunday Express (http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/11890)
I am not sure that I have heard of him :erm:
The only thing I have heard about him it that he went on strike to try and secure a move to Rangers last week, looks like this move will end our interest in Shaun Wright Phillips to, pity
TheDaddy
01-07-2007, 20:12
Signed him now, he looks pretty good in the video
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/w/west_ham_utd/6258510.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAcMg1ZkIX0
TheDaddy
02-07-2007, 08:33
Seems like Beckham could have company in LA :td:
David Beckham's new side LA Galaxy want Dec out of And and Dec to attend trials after the Geordie TV legend impressed chiefs with his finishing during a kickabout with Robbie Williams. (Daily Star)
Seriously if they want their league to be known as anything other than Mickey Mouse they need to cut crap like this out
Seems like Beckham could have company in LA :td:
David Beckham's new side LA Galaxy want Dec out of And and Dec to attend trials after the Geordie TV legend impressed chiefs with his finishing during a kickabout with Robbie Williams. (Daily Star)
Seriously if they want their league to be known as anything other than Mickey Mouse they need to cut crap like this out
if this is from the Star then it's prob a load of rubbish :D
Perhaps they could also hire him for the start of boxing matches.
"Let's get ready to rumble" :D
TheDaddy
02-07-2007, 10:36
Perhaps they could also hire him for the start of boxing matches.
"Let's get ready to rumble" :D
What as a punchbag, if so I think it's a fantastic idea :)
Although anything would be better than his singing
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if this is from the Star then it's prob a load of rubbish :D
No joke, these days it's as if papers like the Star and Mirror just make the sports stuff up :td: :mad:
And the rest of their reports for that matter :(
Good to see Fergie is still hungry for success
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/2007/07/03/i-m-still-hungry-89520-19396059/
Fergie 21 Years at the helm and 21 trophies to show for it :tu:
================================================== ========
Will Alan Smith be sold ? ..........
Alan Smith claims he wants to stay with United and spare the club another dip into the summer transfer market.
The firebrand forward, signed from Leeds in 2004, has been linked with a host of Premier League clubs all summer, while United have supposedly eyed a host of potential new strikers.
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=441122
No new contract yet, so it's looking likely, but who knows :shrug:
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Whoops !!!!
Ken Bates' proposed buyback of Leeds United is to be challenged by HM Revenue & Customs.
The announcement comes a day after the news that the administrators at the football club had persuaded Mr Bates to raise his offer to creditors.
And I thought he was home and dry.
The Beeb (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6266508.stm)
One for Gavin.........
Portsmouth Football Club are set to make an offer for Jermain Defoe.
Despite the England international revealing he wants to stay and fight for his place in the Tottenham Hotspur side, Harry Redknapp has made no secret of his desire to bring him to Fratton Park.
Not sure of their source of info though :confused:
http://www.fansfc.com/portsmouthfootballclub/news.asp?newsid=169486
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One for Gavin.........
Portsmouth Football Club are set to make an offer for Jermain Defoe.
Not sure of their source of info though :confused:
http://www.fansfc.com/portsmouthfootballclub/news.asp?newsid=169486
Here (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475227&CPID=8&clid=47&lid=2&title=Harry+wants+Defoe+and+Fredi) by the looks of it :)
TheDaddy
05-07-2007, 10:21
One for Gavin.........
Portsmouth Football Club are set to make an offer for Jermain Defoe.
Seems he doesn't fancy it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/6272284.stm
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He can win the league for Utd by himself
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6272664.stm
Saaf_laandon_mo
05-07-2007, 10:46
I was just reading the Tevez one too. So Utd will have spent about 50million this coming season, hope all those Utd supporters who moaned about Chelsea buying the premiership eat a huge slice of Humble pie!
I was just reading the Tevez one too. So Utd will have spent about 50million this coming season, hope all those Utd supporters who moaned about Chelsea buying the premiership eat a huge slice of Humble pie!
Slight difference of course in that United were a well-established (some would say the TRUE) premiership-title winning side for several years before this spending spree. Chelsea were never considered one of the big 4 (or big 5, 6, etc) before Roman turned up.
Plus I think Chelsea spent a little more than £50m ;)
TheDaddy
05-07-2007, 11:55
I was just reading the Tevez one too. So Utd will have spent about 50million this coming season, hope all those Utd supporters who moaned about Chelsea buying the premiership eat a huge slice of Humble pie!
Got a feeling if any deal is done it will be a loan deal, with an actual full transfer this time next year, the problem is though, he has a playing contract with us and we don't want him to go, so unless he really wants to move, he'll still be with us next season
TheDaddy
05-07-2007, 14:45
Here's a link for that last post
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007300885,00.html
so unless he really wants to move,
Mmmmmmm, difficult decision that, :rolleyes: :D
TheDaddy
05-07-2007, 16:39
Mmmmmmm, difficult decision that, :rolleyes: :D
What no one has ever turned Man Utd down before, he has already turned Inter down and if we try hard enough we could well convince him his future lies with us, even if we just see how it goes until January, loyalty and commitment to the fans aren't alien words to this guy
Saaf_laandon_mo
05-07-2007, 16:54
Not beeing a hammer I can't say how the fans will feel if he were to leave West Ham for Man U, but considering he was almost solely responsible for you staying up, I dont think there would be too many fans moaning at him wanting to go to Man U.
I think he should say and get West Ham into Europe!
smiffing
05-07-2007, 16:57
Tevez and Mascherano when they arrived were spouting about how proud they were to be playing for the hammers, how they have changed their tune now?
I hope Tevez stays, he has already cost us 5.5 million pounds in a fine alone.
TheDaddy
05-07-2007, 17:09
Not beeing a hammer I can't say how the fans will feel if he were to leave West Ham for Man U, but considering he was almost solely responsible for you staying up, I dont think there would be too many fans moaning at him wanting to go to Man U.
I think he should say and get West Ham into Europe!
He is hero worshipped and has always been a favourite even when things were tough for him, I am sure he'll always get a warm welcome when he comes back but I am not convinced he'll go, partly due to your 'getting us into Europe' line, when he first arrived he said he wanted to emulate his hero Maradona at Napoli, there is absolutely no chance of that at Man Utd, he'll just be another big fish in a big pond
Cobbydaler
05-07-2007, 22:55
The Blades are going to the High Court, looking for £50m compensation... :Yikes:
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6270920.stm)
The Blades are going to the High Court, looking for £50m compensation... :Yikes:
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6270920.stm)
I think the theory there is, "Always ask for more than you know you might get".
The premier league has thrown their case out, an abitration panel has voted against their case, and I think the High Court will follow suit, unless McCabe knows otherwise, plus the hammers have been fined 5.5 million pounds, however,
The three-man arbitration panel, headed by retired High Court judge Sir Philip Otton, did not have the power to change West Ham's punishment but could have ordered a new independent commission to judge the case.
As one decision was not possible, but the next best thing was possible but not granted, usually means, "You are wasting your time".
The only thing I don't understand is why did West Ham withold the third party interest, when signing the Argentinians, knowing it was against the rules. :confused:
It does seem a bit suspect I have to say. Maybe Panorama should investigate :)
Matt Lockwood moves from Orient to Forest. Chris Cohen and Arron Davies rumoured to be on their way from Yeovil.
TheDaddy
06-07-2007, 00:25
The Blades are going to the High Court, looking for £50m compensation... :Yikes:
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6270920.stm)
The Blades are appealing, not from where I am sitting they're aren't :D
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Matt Lockwood moves from Orient to Forest. Chris Cohen and Arron Davies rumoured to be on their way from Yeovil.
Chris Cohen is pretty good :tu:
The Blades are appealing, not from where I am sitting they're aren't :D
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Chris Cohen is pretty good :tu:
So is Davies. He certainly ****ed on us in the playoffs. Cohen and Lennon in the middle, with Perch, Clingan and McGugan as backup, with commo left and Davies right, we will walk League 1 Leeds or no Leeds.
Shadow Demon UK
06-07-2007, 10:53
He is hero worshipped and has always been a favourite even when things were tough for him, I am sure he'll always get a warm welcome when he comes back but I am not convinced he'll go, partly due to your 'getting us into Europe' line, when he first arrived he said he wanted to emulate his hero Maradona at Napoli, there is absolutely no chance of that at Man Utd, he'll just be another big fish in a big pond
He seems keen on the move -
"I am a player who thrives on challenges. I went to England to triumph in the Premiership and with West Ham I have achieved that first stage.
"Now I'm ready to move on to the next stage. To be a member of Sir Alex Ferguson's squad will be absolutely spectacular. "My dream is to be an idol in English football and I can achieve this now."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6276064.stm
There seems to be a few complications with the transfer as the Premier league are sticking their noses in but i think it will happen and it will be another excellent signing for the club :tu:
Representatives say Carlos Tevez has agreed terms with Man Utd.
No link, it is on SSN.
Shadow Demon UK
06-07-2007, 20:08
Link here - http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475582&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=4161&title=TEVEZ+'AGREES'+UNITED+DEAL
smiffing
06-07-2007, 20:18
I suppose this bloke is lying or wrong then!
Here. (http://www.whufc.com/articles/article.php?page_id=9272)
I'll believe it if and when Man Utd Make a statement saying that he has signed ;)
Hmmm, Tevez is highly ambitious, he won't turn United down.
WHU could do with a handy way of paying the £5m fine plus get a decent player - they should be able to get someone decent for £15m and use the rest of his transfer fee on the fine.
smiffing
06-07-2007, 22:59
Hmmm, Tevez is highly ambitious, he won't turn United down.
WHU could do with a handy way of paying the £5m fine plus get a decent player - they should be able to get someone decent for £15m and use the rest of his transfer fee on the fine.
He will earn more for the club if he stays, Europe beckons with him as the inspiration.
The chances of WHU regularly qualifying for Europe? Fairly good. The chances of United? Almost guaranteed.
One thing is for sure, Shreck won't be the ugliest player on the pitch if Tevez is playing.:D
Jim.
smiffing
06-07-2007, 23:26
Hey with Tevez we beat Utd home and away!
Did you? Well, at least he had that to show for the season ;)
pedantic
06-07-2007, 23:41
Hey with Tevez we beat Utd home and away!
Well, not quite.
Tevez was an unused sub (http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=504583) in the game at upton park. ;)
TheDaddy
07-07-2007, 08:30
I suppose this bloke is lying or wrong then!
Here. (http://www.whufc.com/articles/article.php?page_id=9272)
He might be! Tbh I have been suspicious all summer, mainly due to us being linked to expensive strikers, it was either Ashton's injury being much worse than reported or we were selling him, it looked like both Pardew and Curbs didn't know what to do with Carlito, playing him on the right wing for instance, it was only when Curbs looked completely shell shocked towards the end he played him up front
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2007310323,00.html
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WHU could do with a handy way of paying the £5m fine plus get a decent player - they should be able to get someone decent for £15m and use the rest of his transfer fee on the fine.
Considering we paid the fine within a week of getting it and bid £17 000 000 for a player I'd say money wasn't an issue for us
TheDaddy
07-07-2007, 10:00
We'll see ;)
Are you implying that the club has money worries?
Other speculation regarding Man Utd.......
Manchester United are willing to sell Giuseppe Rossi, according to Parma president Tommaso Ghirardi.
The Gialloblu have already made an offer for the Italian striker, who had a successful spell on loan with the Italian club last season. Rossi may be surplus to requirements should United complete the signing of Argentina international striker Carlos Tevez.
Sky Sports (http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=475586&CPID=8&clid=1&lid=2&title=Parma:+United+to+sell+Rossi&channel=football_home&)
Are you implying that the club has money worries?
Nope!
I'm implying tevez won't be a WHU player for long ;)
TheDaddy
07-07-2007, 10:52
Nope!
I'm implying tevez won't be a WHU player for long ;)
Maybe he will, maybe he won't, if he does go though it won't be because the club needs the money
pedantic
07-07-2007, 17:17
Craig Bellamy has signed for West Ham, according to SSN.
TheDaddy
07-07-2007, 18:06
Craig Bellamy has signed for West Ham, according to SSN.
Heres a link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6270944.stm
How can he be worth twice as much as Benayoun?
Not convinced by this deal, as a replacement for Tevez, it sucks :td:
smiffing
07-07-2007, 21:01
Heres a link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/6270944.stm
How can he be worth twice as much as Benayoun?
Not convinced by this deal, as a replacement for Tevez, it sucks :td:
Bellamy is a handful.......for the manager!
Benayoum is a very good, hard working player, I don't know why he's not being offered a good enough deal to stay.
TheDaddy
07-07-2007, 21:09
Bellamy is a handful.......for the manager!
Your not wrong, we already have Bowyer and Neill, tried hard to sign Barton and now got Bellamy, a right rouges gallery being assembled :(
Cobbydaler
07-07-2007, 21:11
Your not wrong, we already have Bowyer and Neill, tried hard to sign Barton and now got Bellamy, a right rouges gallery being assembled :(
You could always sell tickets for the boxing... ;)
smiffing
07-07-2007, 21:13
You could always sell tickets for the boxing... ;)
Who would ref it? Nobody in black likes to take a punch!
I've always thought Bellamy has the potential to be an awesome player - in the right team. Perhaps WHU will be the side that brings out his best.
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6276064.stm)
Striker Carlos Tevez has agreed personal terms with Manchester United, according to his representatives.
Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/6276064.stm)
Just to reiterate ;)
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34345885-post228.html
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