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myriauk
20-05-2007, 09:12
Hey all just wondering if anyone could help me, at the moment I'm sharing the connection with my brother via Modem connected via the Router then the PC's coming out of the router (via ethernet)

The router we have at the moment is
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-RP614UK-Port-Cable-Router/dp/B000087H96

We 'do' get 10mb but not majority of the time, I'm wondering if the router could be a problem that I'm not looking at, I've put in for a modem upgrade also just waiting for it to arrive.

Thx in advance

:Edit:
I've done as some threads and posted my modem po


wer levels.

Downstream Status Operational
Channel ID 6
Downstream Frequency 331000000 Hz
Modulation QAM256
Bit Rate 10240000 bps
Power Level 5.04 dBmV
Signal to Noise Ratio 37 dB

Upstream Status Operational
Channel ID 1
Upstream Frequency 18800000 Hz
Bit Rate 384000 bps
Power Level 45.50 dBmV

Configuration File Configuration File cm-10240-384

Not sure how to access the config file =/

:edit 2:
Got the log from the modem which seems to have some errors on

2007-05-20 07:16:51 error BPI FLASH: The Mfg CA certificate not found!
2007-05-20 07:16:17 error BPI FLASH: The Mfg CA certificate not found!
2007-05-20 07:15:43 error BPI FLASH: The Mfg CA certificate not found!
2007-05-20 07:12:28 error BPI FLASH: The Mfg CA certificate not found!
2007-05-18 14:26:04 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-18 14:26:04 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-18 14:26:04 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-16 23:32:36 error ToD request sent - No Response received
2007-05-16 21:32:28 error ToD request sent - No Response received
2007-05-15 02:08:19 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-15 02:08:19 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-15 02:08:19 warning DHCP RENEW WARNING - Field invalid in response
2007-05-14 20:34:20 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 20:34:20 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 20:34:14 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 20:34:14 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing
2007-05-14 20:34:13 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 12:00:16 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 12:00:16 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing
2007-05-14 12:00:03 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 11:40:35 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-14 11:40:35 critical SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire FEC framing
2007-05-14 11:40:22 warning Cable Lost FEC lock
2007-05-13 13:15:54 error ToD request sent - No Response received
2007-05-13 11:19:26 critical Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2007-05-12 21:11:48 error ToD request sent - No Response received
2007-05-12 21:00:07 critical Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out
2007-05-11 15:06:08 information Ignore SW upgrade via provisioning: same image!
2007-05-11 15:06:06 notice Interface index:4 LinkUp
2007-05-11 15:06:06 notice Interface index:3 LinkUp
2007-05-11 15:06:06 notice Interface index:2 LinkUp
2007-05-11 15:06:06 notice SNMP COLD_START(SNMP Nmaccess mode)
2007-05-11 15:06:06 notice Cable Modem Status set to Registration Complete
2007-05-11 15:06:06 information Received REG-RSP from CMTS
2007-05-11 15:06:06 information Sending Registration Request
2007-05-11 15:06:05 information Processing Configuration File
2007-05-11 15:03:07 information DHCP: IP complete
2007-05-11 15:03:07 warning DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response
2007-05-11 15:03:07 warning DHCP WARNING - Non-critical field invalid in response
2007-05-11 15:02:58 debug DHCP_coldstart() successfully
2007-05-11 15:02:56 information Beginning ranging process. Initial Power=46.00 dBmV
2007-05-11 15:02:56 information Got a map with the new UCD change count, and changed upstream parms
2007-05-11 15:02:53 information Sync recovery loop is locked
2007-05-11 15:02:49 information Scan Downstream Frequency...
2007-05-11 15:02:47 error BPI FLASH: The Mfg CA certificate not found!
2007-05-11 12:35:11 information Ignore SW upgrade via provisioning: same image!
2007-05-11 12:35:09 notice Interface index:4 LinkUp
2007-05-11 12:35:09 notice Interface index:3 LinkUp
2007-05-11 12:35:09 notice Interface index:2 LinkUp
2007-05-11 12:35:09 notice SNMP COLD_START(SNMP Nmaccess mode

zing_deleted
20-05-2007, 09:30
The manual states its 10/100 lan I have no reason to think the wan is any different so you should be fine. Dont worry about the errors.

martin42h
20-05-2007, 09:31
According to the specs for this router that I can find, the WAN port is 10-BaseT and therefore capable of 10 Mbps max. A replacement would be a good idea. I have a Linksys WRT54GS which has a 100BASE-TX WAN port capable of 100 Mbps and would recommend it without hesitation.

your router:-

http://www.speedguide.net/read_reviews.php?id=183

Further investigation reveals that the latest model does indeed have a 100BAS-TX WAN port so I guess you need to check the version number.

zing_deleted
20-05-2007, 09:39
According to the specs for this router that I can find, the WAN port is 10-BaseT and therefore capable of 10 Mbps max. A replacement would be a good idea. I have a Linksys WRT54GS which has a 100BASE-TX WAN port capable of 100 Mbps and would recommend it without hesitation.

your router:-

http://www.speedguide.net/read_reviews.php?id=183

The manual doesnt say that :confused:

---------- Post added at 08:39 ---------- Previous post was at 08:34 ----------

http://www.hpsales.co.uk/extra.asp?pn=RP614UK says 10/100 here

martin42h
20-05-2007, 09:43
OK, checked the Netgear site and v4 has 100BASE-TX on the WAN port but earlier versions DO NOT. So, check your label on the bottom of the router. If it says RP614v4 its ok, otherwise not.

myriauk
20-05-2007, 09:47
RP614v2 is the current router, so i guess i need to upgrade that aswell :S

Can you recommend one?

popper
20-05-2007, 09:47
its hard to say for sure as it doesnt list the speed of the WAN port if but it seems to indicate that its underpowered as that Netgear RP614UK uses a Processor: 1 x ARM 50 MHz, were as if you look at the 3rd party firmware list for the good netgear they all use far faster CPU's http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware
150MHz through as much as 500MHz today.

you dont say what modem you currently have but its got the cm-10240-384 so your on the tw part and its set for 10Mbit down, 384kBit up right now.

i suspect the routers slowing you down but you can test it easy enough , just get a second network card inside your brothers machine and set that up as the master machine and have yours go to it direct without the router in place.

BB<===>brothers-netcard1----brothers-netcard2<===>your machine

ohh i see its been determined V2 is it, i supose thats why its got the really slow CPU.

martin42h
20-05-2007, 09:49
This is mine:-

http://www.pricegrabber.co.uk/search_getprod.php/masterid=16852579/search=linksys+wrt54gs/mode=g_uk_b_s/skd=1

zing_deleted
20-05-2007, 09:54
ok im confused now (networking isnt my main field so I could well just be a noob) im reading the manual for v2 of the router and it says under front panel

Internet light on Green the Wan has detected a 100mbps device attached

Internet light on Amber the wan has detected a 10mbps device attached

im confused now cuz if the wan on the v2 cant handle 100mbps how can it detect a connection to one? :confused: :confused:


Also in section 2.2 it states The cable or dsl modem broadband access device must provide a standard 10 baseT or 100 baseTX

Paul K
20-05-2007, 09:57
The V2 and V3 manual is just as confusing:

• Network Interface:
- LAN: IEEE 802.3i (10BASE-T) Ethernet or IEEE
802.3u (100BASE-TX) Fast Ethernet
(auto-sensing), RJ-45
-WAN: IEEE 802.3i (10BASE-T) Ethernet or IEEE
802.3u (100BASE-TX) Fast Ethernet
(auto-sensing), RJ-45

• Network Interface:
- LAN: IEEE 802.3i (10BASE-T) Ethernet or IEEE
802.3u (100BASE-TX) Fast Ethernet
(auto-sensing), RJ-45
-WAN: IEEE 802.3i (10BASE-T) Ethernet or IEEE
802.3u (100BASE-TX) Fast Ethernet
(auto-sensing), RJ-45

Interface Specifications
• Internet/WAN: 10/100 Mbps (auto-sensing)
Ethernet, RJ-45
• LAN: 4 ports 10/100 Mbps (auto-sensing)
Ethernet, RJ-45

myriauk
20-05-2007, 09:59
http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WiredRouters/RP614.aspx?detail=Specifications

Seems to be the one and
Netgear Cable/DSL Web Safe Router RP614v2

Is what it says when i access the router config page through the browser

zing_deleted
20-05-2007, 10:01
I think the best thing you can do is wait and see how it all acts when your upgraded cuz im just confused now

myriauk
20-05-2007, 10:04
Would probably be the best =) well thanks alot for your replys

Paul K
20-05-2007, 10:10
If you get a drop in speed, remove the router and direct connect to a PC for temporary testing, if the speed returns then you need to go for a v4. Got the same situation at my sisters but unfortunately her power levels to the modem are shocking so she is only getting 6-7Mb until the tech comes out otherwise I would know the answer ;) She has my old V3 ready to hook up lol

popper
20-05-2007, 10:14
as you say Zing if it can detect the change then it must at some hardware level support 100 WAN unless they fiddled the firmware bit flipping on another part to try and shift the old gear.

its always werth haveing a really good look on the http://wiki.openwrt.org/TableOfHardware page as you will note that the netgear is untested or WIP(but its on there so they are reasonably sure its got the hardware so might/should run openwrt).

its been a while since i checked that page but i cant seem to find any (wireless if your thinking about that option)11n parts so far, and they will have the better WAN port and throughput etc.

martin42h
20-05-2007, 10:14
It is very confusing...but this from the Netgear website manual pages:-

Reference Manual for the Model RP614 v2 Web Safe Router
A-2 Technical Specifications
Dimensions:
28 x 175 x 118 mm***(1.1 x 6.89 x 4.65 in.)
Weight:
0.3 kg***(0.66 lb)
Environmental Specifications
Operating temperature:
32°-140° F (0° to 40° C)
Operating humidity:
90% maximum relative humidity, noncondensing
Electromagnetic Emissions
Meets requirements of:
FCC Part 15 Class B
VCCI Class B
EN 55 022 (CISPR 22), Class B
Interface Specifications
Local:
10BASE-T or 100BASE-Tx, RJ-45
Internet:
10BASE-T, RJ-45

v3:-

Interface Specifications
LAN: 10BASE-T or 100BASE-Tx, RJ-45
WAN: 10BASE-T, RJ-45

v4:-

RP614v4 Cable/DSL Router Reference Manual
A-2 Technical Specifications
v3.0, 2006-03
General Specifications
Network Protocol and Standards Compatibility
Power Adapter
Physical Specifications
Environmental Specifications
Interface Specifications
Data and Routing Protocols: TCP/IP, RIP-1, RIP-2, DHCP, PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE), Pointto-
Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP), Telstra BigPond
North America: 120V, 60 Hz, input
United Kingdom, Australia: 240V, 50 Hz, input
Europe: 230V, 50 Hz, input
Japan: 100V, 50/60 Hz, input
All regions (output): 5 V DC @ 1 A output, 5W maximum
Dimensions: 28 x 175 x 118 mm (1.1 x 6.89 x 4.65 in.)
Weight: 0.3 kg (0.66 lb)
Operating temperature: 0° to 40° C (32º to 104º F)
Operating humidity: 90% maximum relative humidity, noncondensing
Electromagnetic Emissions
Meets requirements of: FCC Part 15 Class B
EN 55 022 (CISPR 22), Class B
LAN: 10BASE-T or 100BASE-Tx, RJ-45
WAN: 10BASE-T or 100BASE-Tx, RJ-45

Paul K
20-05-2007, 10:17
Now why didn't anyone else think of looking on the netgear site?
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34309727-post10.html
;)

zing_deleted
20-05-2007, 10:19
Bloody crap support everywhere aint it lol except here of course ;)

---------- Post added at 09:19 ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 ----------

Now why didn't anyone else think of looking on the netgear site?
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34309727-post10.html
;)


I did I downloaded the manuals from there

popper
20-05-2007, 10:21
yep, the 10BASE-T, RJ-45
and the old and slow CPU nails it for me, it will be slowing you down for sure.

just get a new one and check the spec as i outline, more ram and faster CPU will always be the better option as it will be able to compensate for encyption and all the other options you really want today, the 3rd party firmwares are better than the originals and give you more/extra options should you wish to go down that route one day so get a router that can take them.

Paul K
20-05-2007, 10:25
Bloody crap support everywhere aint it lol except here of course ;)

---------- Post added at 09:19 ---------- Previous post was at 09:19 ----------




I did I downloaded the manuals from there
LOL I know and yet we are still none the wiser lol Some companies idea of customer support is not exactly brilliant is it ;)

popper
20-05-2007, 10:30
i cant be bothered but it should be easy enough to go find a BOM for it and check the net chip/SOC the WAN is wired to and sus it that way for sure if its really bugging you i supose.

or just open it up and look OC.. ;)

myriauk
20-05-2007, 10:45
thanks for the help, so should be thinking about a new router then, I'll check what happens after the upgrade first of all, then all i need to do is find a wired router =/

popper
20-05-2007, 11:22
or the 2nd net-card in the best PC set as master is still the cheap but effective option if you are willing to keep it on for the other machines in the LAN.

BB<===>masterNC1---masterNC2<===>AP/switch<===>all other machines pluged in that

works just as well if the master is left on.

for just two machines
BB<===>masterNC1--masterNC2<=x=>machine2

<===> equals straight through RJ45cable
<=x=> equals crossover cable or an x-over adaptor with two straights pluged into it.