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DieDieMyDarling
11-05-2007, 19:07
Are you a heavy downloader? And if so, which of these is closest to describing you?

Cobbydaler
11-05-2007, 19:10
What's your definition of heavy? ;)

Hugh
11-05-2007, 19:11
I'm not a heavy downloader, just "big-boned". ;)

flashyphotos
11-05-2007, 19:13
170Gb in the last week, so yep fairly heavy!

Work 2pm to 10pm so out during the peak periods of capping etc..

Hugh
11-05-2007, 19:15
170Gb in the last week, so yep fairly heavy!

Work 2pm to 10pm so out during the peak periods of capping etc..

24Gb a day - that's a lot of linux iso's :D

RXP
11-05-2007, 19:22
One time, when I was with Telewest in Bham in my student house, I grabbed 1tb of stuff on a 4mbit :-> Was all day then. UBR's in studentville have gotta be awesome, cause everyone had cable in that area.

Now though, overnight.

hanzo
11-05-2007, 19:42
not anymore.. my connection is capped to ****ty ass dial up speeds so no point in downloading..

Bill C
11-05-2007, 19:52
Yes i am a heavy downloader. I have always done my downloading after midnight.

You just dont want to know how much :)

Hom3r
11-05-2007, 19:55
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Meg

dilli-theclaw
11-05-2007, 19:57
Most of my stuff is downloaded whle I'm in bed.

brundles
11-05-2007, 20:09
I wouldn't say I was a heavy downloader but it depends on the definition of heavy. I probably go through between 50GB and 70GB a month (+/- 10% as it's mainly usenet). However most of that is either during the day (generally before 3pm) or overnight.

Mods - Any chance of splitting the "during the day" to differentiate between peak and off-peak?

During peak hours it tends to be VOIP, web surfing and perhaps working from home. Since the announcement I've been monitoring the connection stats on the router itself and surprisingly it's not gone about 280MB during peak periods.

homealone
11-05-2007, 20:12
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Meg

TV programs, mainly. Although I wouldn't class myself as a heavy downloader, I have just recently started using a commercial newsgroup service & there just wouldn't be time to watch everything I want to get off there, so I've tried to be selective.

The most I have 'done' recently, was one night I downloaded about 7GB, but I'm sure once the novelty wears off it will reduce - only 800MB, last night, for example. It depends on the file formats, as well, 4GB of DivX encoded HD means about 11 episodes of a series, while if you downloaded the DVD you get about 4 episodes for the same size download. :)

DieDieMyDarling
11-05-2007, 20:17
I guess heavy downloading would be classed as the current traffic management limits. That's what VM have deemed to be heavy useage, as they claim only 5% of customers exceed the limits.
So 350mb, 750mb and 3gb, depending on what tier you're on. :D

Personally i use about 200gb a month. 90%+ of which is done between midnight and 6am.

stu8975
11-05-2007, 20:20
It depends on whether there is anything worth downloading;)...i normally do about 5 - 10 gb a week mostly either early morning or overnight (basically when im not working my ******** off in the day job):mad:

flashyphotos
11-05-2007, 20:21
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Meg


I am updating my stored movie collection to HD, so 8 to 10Gb a file instead of the old 1Gb or so each, so its going to take some time,...

Figure I have all the original DVDs, I am buggered if I am buying them again in HD format!

Only recently redescovered the joys of comercial newservers (Ngroups.net at £22 for 3 months unlimited) figured I better get my £22 quids worth!!

Griffin
11-05-2007, 20:24
My downloads often run 24 hours a day but not always fast. The most i ever hit in a month was 55gb, but the last 2 months combined only total 15.25gb.
My average is normally around the 30gb mark, so i would have to say i was a moderate downloader.

on in an hour!
11-05-2007, 20:36
Yes i am a heavy downloader. I have always done my downloading after midnight.
remove this person from the forum right now,he is a charlatan,he blatantly admits being a heavy downloader,shoot him,then tie him up by the b******s and hang him from the golden gates of the town hall as an example to all heavy downloaders,how dare they use bandwith they are paying for!!!

Mick Fisher
11-05-2007, 20:43
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Meg

Yeah me too.
Maybe I already downloaded the Internet ages ago and these days just need odd updates. :)
I see I have mostly kept well inside the old 70gig/month cap since it went unlimited and this month haven't yet reached 12gig.
That being said what I do DL is mostly outside of peak times anyway.
In view of all that I voted No in the poll.

Bill C
11-05-2007, 20:51
remove this person from the forum right now,he is a charlatan,he blatantly admits being a heavy downloader,shoot him,then tie him up by the b******s and hang him from the golden gates of the town hall as an example to all heavy downloaders,how dare they use bandwith they are paying for!!!

Watch it you. You forget i know where you work :LOL:

on in an hour!
11-05-2007, 20:53
Watch it you. Or i will let your tyres down :)
dont fear the reaper billy boy :LOL:

Maggy
11-05-2007, 21:33
I'm not a heavy downloader, just "big-boned". ;)

stop making me laugh...especially when I'm drinking...:D

grubbymitts
11-05-2007, 21:38
well, the gag's been done - but, heck, it's my birthday! So: I'm 14 and a half stone. So, yes, quite a heavy downloader.

Tawton9
11-05-2007, 21:59
I've downloaded about 40GB in about 2 weeks...DVD Rips and TV shows :) Who can blame me? I download a movie in 8 minutes or so. ;)

Locky
11-05-2007, 22:12
used to hammer giganews 24/7 more or less most i have done is just over 2 terabytes

SMHarman
11-05-2007, 22:12
Mainly TV shows, normally in SD and HD at the moment so the 350Mb file and the 750Mb file each time.
I would guess about 4GB a week or so.

ECW_Original
11-05-2007, 23:45
I dont really do much downloading, just a few shows per week, but the most traffic I use is upload, cos Im a member of a private tracker, but its LEGAL cos the only torrents they host is member's own DJ mixes, and as I am a dj, I upload a lot of my stuff to there, the most I ever use about 125GB total traffic per month, would I be classed as a "Heavy User" ?

Locky
11-05-2007, 23:48
I dont really do much downloading, just a few shows per week, but the most traffic I use is upload, cos Im a member of a private tracker, but its LEGAL cos the only torrents they host is member's own DJ mixes, and as I am a dj, I upload a lot of my stuff to there, the most I ever use about 125GB total traffic per month, would I be classed as a "Heavy User" ?

i would of thought vm will class any1 over 50gb or so a heavy user.. 75gig tops as they used to think a 75gig cap on 10 meg was a lot

ECW_Original
11-05-2007, 23:53
i would of thought vm will class any1 over 50gb or so a heavy user.. 75gig tops as they used to think a 75gig cap on 10 meg was a lot

Yay so that makes me the lightest of the heavy users then lol :angel: :angel: :) :tu:

Zee
12-05-2007, 00:02
According to their website, adverts and overall the way they market, you can download as much as you want, as long as its not between 4-12 - i mean AS MUCH as you could possibly do.

I'm downloading Planet Earth 11 episodes @ 1.46GB each. I've just stopped downloading them, until after 12, i think i went a lil over 3GB but all seems OK. I dont seem to be capped at 5Mb.

I'm being a heavy user this month because of this.

buba3d
12-05-2007, 00:07
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Megmovies tv shows, games etc

i'm not going to sugar coat it:D

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 00:20
Yes i am a heavy downloader. I have always done my downloading after midnight.

You just dont want to know how much :)
tut tut :td:

ECW_Original
12-05-2007, 00:45
Yes i am a heavy downloader. I have always done my downloading after midnight.

You just dont want to know how much :)

I take it that it is way over the 300GB mark... ;) ;) :)

2||Para
12-05-2007, 02:05
Nah i only weigh 12 stone

r00t
12-05-2007, 02:25
Most of my stuff is downloaded whle I'm in bed.

Yep, same here.
Real men shedual their downloads, instead of bitching about 'management of traffic'
Though I do come from the ADSL world, so I'm used to having it hard and having to work around to get what I want.

futard
12-05-2007, 04:05
i download when i want but mostly after midnight....the latest linux isos get released then ;)

corona
12-05-2007, 04:11
I don't think I'm a heavy downloader 30-50gb per month my usage ;p, and i download whenever i feel like it but since the announcement of the traffic shaping I try to download large files before peak times

kristoficus
12-05-2007, 11:15
Im not a heavy downloader (snigger), but im on 4mb and Virgin are basically giving us extremely unreasonable limits. Joost uses about 350mb an hour, and services like that are gonna become more and more. Internet entertainment (high quality video, radio etc) are the future, but were going to be limited to 2 hours of this out of 8. Thats just as ridiculous as their connection ratios - 768kbit/s on a 20mbit, anyone?

3GB on a 20mbit will be hit in about 30min at top speed... absolutely pathetic.

HiroofTime
12-05-2007, 11:32
I would say I am an above average downloader, then the odd large 5gb file every few weeks. Since I have had my broadband, over a year now, my Newsleecher account has downloaded 443GB. So thats not bad eh.

deckmonkey
12-05-2007, 11:33
Out of interest, all you guys who say they get through 200GB/month and the like, where on earth do you store it all?? Although I will find it easy to exceed the 750MB threshold on my connection, I doubt I get though more than a few GB per month and I'm only just getting close to filling my 2x160GB disks (although I have to say, a 500GB external disk is on the cards!) but it's taken me quite a while to do that. Do you all SANs tucked away in your broom cupboards?? If I were to download that much I would never be able to get through all the content I'd downloaded in a month!

ssdd
12-05-2007, 12:06
According to du meter my heaviest month since november 05 has been just under 69 gig so don't think I'm a heavy downloader :angel:

Rik
12-05-2007, 12:18
What do people download??

I struggle to find anthing decent, and on a site that can download at 10/20 Meg

You arent looking in the right places then :D

Most of my downloading is done before 4pm ;)

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Out of interest, all you guys who say they get through 200GB/month and the like, where on earth do you store it all??

I have two pcs, one has 2.5TB of space and the other a measely 1.5TB.
Hitachi have released 1TB drives so I will be adding one of those to each PC ;)

peanut
12-05-2007, 12:23
I have two pcs, one has 2.5TB of space and the other a measely 1.5TB.
Hitachi have released 1TB drives so I will be adding one of those to each PC ;)

That's a lot of stuff to lose in one go, no if's but when it WILL go wrong. I really don't see the point in those big drives, I'd rather get 2-4 smaller ones, much more managable, better to defrag, etc etc etc.

You can tell how lazy a person is by the size of the hard drives. ;) :p:

flashyphotos
12-05-2007, 12:24
Out of interest, all you guys who say they get through 200GB/month and the like, where on earth do you store it all??

5Tb NAS Server (Dedicated Movie Server), Expanded from 2Tb to take up the load now there are a lot more quality 1080p movies

iTekweni
12-05-2007, 12:25
I download when I feeel like it but am not a heavy downloader maybe 15gig a week

Hugh
12-05-2007, 12:27
5Tb NAS Server (Dedicated Movie Server), Expanded from 2Tb to take up the load now there are a lot more quality 1080p movies

Wouldn't it just be easier and cheaper to buy the movies? :D

Especially if you back up the 5Tb (that's a lot of floppy disks). :p:

Locky
12-05-2007, 12:29
Wouldn't it just be easier and cheaper to buy the movies? :D

Especially if you back up the 5Tb (that's a lot of floppy disks). :p:

ye about 3 and a half thousand haha, them 1b drives r nice but safer + a lot cheaper (i mean almost £100 cheaper) to get 2 x 500 gig drives cant go wrong

DieDieMyDarling
12-05-2007, 12:52
Out of interest, all you guys who say they get through 200GB/month and the like, where on earth do you store it all?? Although I will find it easy to exceed the 750MB threshold on my connection, I doubt I get though more than a few GB per month and I'm only just getting close to filling my 2x160GB disks (although I have to say, a 500GB external disk is on the cards!) but it's taken me quite a while to do that. Do you all SANs tucked away in your broom cupboards?? If I were to download that much I would never be able to get through all the content I'd downloaded in a month!
With half decent dvd-r discs going for as little as 14p each (usually bought in packs of 100) it's not that difficult to store things. £14 for 430gb of storage. :D

A lot of things people download are just US TV shows, films, etc though, where you watch it and delete it.

Each month brings 4 episodes of each TV show, if you're following a good few then that could really build up. Sopranos, Heroes, The Ultimate Fighter, WWE Raw, WWE smackdown, WWE ECW, are the main ones i download.
So that's 350mb per hour episode, about 1.2gb for each episode of Raw and Smackdown. That's 3.8gb a week. 15.2gb per month. Just to keep up with a few TV shows. All of which are deleted straight after i've watched them. A lot more if you want really good quality, and more again if you want them in HD. I personally make do with the decent divx quality stuff, in most cases. :D

peanut
12-05-2007, 13:05
With half decent dvd-r discs going for as little as 14p each (usually bought in packs of 100) it's not that difficult to store things. £14 for 430gb of storage. :D


Yes but people today can't be bothered to burn to dvd today, so you get extra hard drives, then you fill them up, you then can't contemplate burning the contents of a full 400gig hard drive so you buy another one, and fill that up, then another, and another.

Burning to dvd now is too slow and a chore. The ideal situation is download, burn, download then burn, but when you can download 1 dvd in 30 mins on 20mb they can soon add up, before you know it that huge 400gig drive isn't enough and you'll be back living within the limits of about 5-10gig till you buy another.

RXP
12-05-2007, 13:44
I've got 1.6-2tb of storage, but most of the big stuff like HDTV I watch and delete. The only things I store up now days are HD-DVD rips.

I completely agree about the 1tb drives, if it goes wrong you're screwed, much rather have 2x500gb.

Lol someone posted Planet Earth in uncompressed HD-DVD format - 90gb.

DeanSupreme uk
12-05-2007, 13:44
I download a fair bit but mostly do it when im in bed..Found msdelf downloading more tv shows more than anything lately..Heroes being the best out of em though:p:

SnoopZ
12-05-2007, 16:34
I don't think i'm a heavy downloader as the most i've ever downloaded a month since 2005 is 54gig. I download whatever i want when i want seeing it's so quick on 10mbit, but when i was on 2mbit i did most of it overnight.

Bill C
12-05-2007, 17:04
Out of interest, all you guys who say they get through 200GB/month and the like, where on earth do you store it all?? Although I will find it easy to exceed the 750MB threshold on my connection, I doubt I get though more than a few GB per month and I'm only just getting close to filling my 2x160GB disks (although I have to say, a 500GB external disk is on the cards!) but it's taken me quite a while to do that. Do you all SANs tucked away in your broom cupboards?? If I were to download that much I would never be able to get through all the content I'd downloaded in a month!

:angel: I have a server with 1.6 tb of storage on it :angel:

It feeds the media Centre Pc and MediaMVP (http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_mediamvp.html) units on each tv.

It serves Video, Music, HD Films and HD Tv eps.

SnoopZ
12-05-2007, 17:05
:angel: I have a server with 1.6 tb of storage on it :angel:

It feeds the media Centre Pc and MediaMVP (http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/support/support_mediamvp.html) units on each tv.

You flash b*****d! ;)

Bill C
12-05-2007, 17:22
You flash b*****d! ;)

:LOL:

Jules
12-05-2007, 17:37
I rarely download anything as I can't find anything to download and I wouldn't know were to start looking.

grubbymitts
12-05-2007, 17:48
I rarely download anything as I can't find anything to download and I wouldn't know were to start looking.

Stay blissfully unaware.

Jules
12-05-2007, 17:57
Now I am intrigued :D

Dan_Sette
12-05-2007, 18:15
Yep. I'll go with Jules. What do you find to download that takes up so much space?

In fact, how do you find out how much you download? What does normal web-browsing take?

D

Jules
12-05-2007, 18:20
I have a feeling there is a whole world out there we know nothing about Dan ;)

Bill C
12-05-2007, 18:24
There is ;)

SnoopZ
12-05-2007, 18:29
Yep. I'll go with Jules. What do you find to download that takes up so much space?

In fact, how do you find out how much you download? What does normal web-browsing take?

D

I use Bandwidth Monitor Pro (http://www.bandwidthmonitorpro.com/) to measure what i download, although it's not free, but if you find stuff to download it could be. ;)

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I rarely download anything as I can't find anything to download and I wouldn't know were to start looking.

Bittorents, Newsgroups etc etc. ;)

S.O.F.T.
12-05-2007, 19:22
170Gb in the last week, so yep fairly heavy!

Work 2pm to 10pm so out during the peak periods of capping etc..
thats a lot of gay porn m8

Rik
12-05-2007, 20:00
I have a feeling there is a whole world out there we know nothing about Dan ;)

You are missing out on soooo much ;)

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 20:11
It depends what you call missing out. If you wish to be a law abiding citizen then you're missing nothing. If you wish be one of the many who download films, software etc from news groups then the vast majority is generally called copyright theft and infringement!

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 20:15
It depends what you call missing out. If you wish to be a law abiding citizen then you're missing nothing. If you wish be one of the many who download films, software etc from news groups then the vast majority is generally called copyright theft and infringement!
oh oh..here we go again..this thread must surely now get merged with (at least) the other 300 that went the same way!!!:sleep:

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 20:23
I don't know about other threads but are you saying my comments are factually incorrect?

Staying on track I'm a heavy downloader downloading around 150Gb per week from work to enable me to work a lot from home and around 4Gb per month from the net plus any new stuff on Technet (estimated as no truly accurate way to measure)

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 20:46
I don't know about other threads but are you saying my comments are factually incorrect?

Staying on track I'm a heavy downloader downloading around 150Gb per week from work to enable me to work a lot from home and around 4Gb per month from the net plus any new stuff on Technet (estimated as no truly accurate way to measure)
pls excuse me,i was merely stating that over the last few weeks every thread, started with any topic, e.g. 'should ken go back to deidrie or stay with denise' (made up 1 but you get my point) inevitably ends up in a slanging match regarding whos interpretation of VM's policy is correct.no i am not saying your comments are factually incorrect,but stick around m8 cause somebody will!! also if youre using your broadband for work purposes i suggest you check out VM's business broadband tariffs..just a suggestion ;) believe me,making sweeping statements like you just did will get you crucified on this forum,there are people whove forgotten more than you know bud.

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 21:03
there are people whove forgotten more than you know bud.
That's an extremely patronising comment from someone who knows nothing of who I am, what I know or do.

As for business tariffs are you suggesting no one is able to use their own personal BB connection to enable them to work from home? I pay for my connection which means I only have to travel to work one or two days a week ( a total of just 240 miles instead of 600 miles per week)

There was me thinking BB would bring home working to all

Bill C
12-05-2007, 21:12
There was me thinking BB would bring home working to all

I just hope your not one of those that starts screaming for compensation and how much you are losing and how many customers are upset if your RESIDENTIAL broadband connection goes faulty.

If you wish to be a law abiding citizen then you're missing nothing.

Then using a RESIDENTIAL service for BUSINESS USE is what

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 21:18
I just hope your not one of those that starts screaming for compensation and how much you are losing and how many customers are upset if your RESIDENTIAL broadband connection goes faulty.
:clap: nuff said billy boy ;)

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That's an extremely patronising comment from someone who knows nothing of who I am, what I know or do.

As for business tariffs are you suggesting no one is able to use their own personal BB connection to enable them to work from home? I pay for my connection which means I only have to travel to work one or two days a week ( a total of just 240 miles instead of 600 miles per week)

There was me thinking BB would bring home working to all
my retort was not of a personal nature per say,more a reflection on your comments and your 'sweeping statements',i have never,or never will
resort to personal abuse over a forum where i cant meet the person face to face and make a decision for myself based on that meeting.if youre complaining that the traffic shaping is affecting your business dealings i suggest you take it up with VM ;) good luck.

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 21:24
I just hope your not one of those that starts screaming for compensation and how much you are losing and how many customers are upset if your RESIDENTIAL broadband connection goes faulty.

Then using a RESIDENTIAL service for BUSINESS USE is what
So I take it you've never sent a work related email then, that is also business use isn't it?

My employer allows me the freedom to either travel to work or work from home for 3-4 days a week, I am not running a business from home and if I didn't have the connection I'd simply not have the option meaning I'd have to travel

Doing some work from home on my own personal connection does not warrant a business connection otherwise I'd guess at some point 50% or more would also require the same :( but at least it detracts from my comment regarding copyright theft

Ho hum

Nedkelly
12-05-2007, 21:26
I have to agree with bill .The amount of customers who say do you know how much iam loosing .I run a company from home you know sorry its a residential service :)

Bill C
12-05-2007, 21:29
I have to agree with bill .The amount of customers who say do you know how much iam loosing .I run a company from home you know sorry its a residential service :)

I disconnected an internet cafe that was being run on a settop box once:LOL:. The owner complained it was not fast enough and his customers where complaining.

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 21:29
So I take it you've never sent a work related email then, that is also business use isn't it?

My employer allows me the freedom to either travel to work or work from home for 3-4 days a week, I am not running a business from home and if I didn't have the connection I'd simply not have the option meaning I'd have to travel

Doing some work from home on my own personal connection does not warrant a business connection otherwise I'd guess at some point 50% or more would also require the same :( but at least it detracts from my comment regarding copyright theft

Ho hum
fair comment,but if you believe VM's policy of traffic shaping to be unfair,your,and everybody elses,option is to switch provider,especially if you need to download more than your VM will allow you,all presuming that you have the same working hours as VM's shaping takes place (4pm to midnight i believe) what are you,a security guard?? ;)

Hugh
12-05-2007, 21:31
So I take it you've never sent a work related email then, that is also business use isn't it?

My employer allows me the freedom to either travel to work or work from home for 3-4 days a week, I am not running a business from home and if I didn't have the connection I'd simply not have the option meaning I'd have to travel

Doing some work from home on my own personal connection does not warrant a business connection otherwise I'd guess at some point 50% or more would also require the same :( but at least it detracts from my comment regarding copyright theft

Ho hum

To be fair, there is a world of difference between "a work related email" and "150Gb per week from work to enable me to work a lot from home", as you posted earlier.

Nedkelly
12-05-2007, 21:34
I agree but there are lots of people who work from home and use there resi bb for this purpose and some of these can get very nasty when they get a fault and they have had to wait 1 to 3 days for a tech.When a buissnes would have one sooner :)

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 21:43
fair comment,but if you believe VM's policy of traffic shaping to be unfair,your,and everybody elses,option is to switch provider,especially if you need to download more than your VM will allow you,all presuming that you have the same working hours as VM's shaping takes place (4pm to midnight i believe) what are you,a security guard?? ;)
Who's mentioned shaping here? Not me, but in answering your question then I don't believe it's right because they're unable to even supply an adequate 10Mbps service so upgrading to 20Mbps is just plain stupid so they need to introduce measure to ensure people aren't able to create bigger problems.

However, traffic shaping won't actually affect me because when I do download from work the most I ever download at is 2Mbps (I'd break the 3Gb limit in about 3 hours) but I'd still be able to do the same even if my service was throttled which makes throttling pointless and ill thought out.

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I agree but there are lots of people who work from home and use there resi bb for this purpose and some of these can get very nasty when they get a fault and they have had to wait 1 to 3 days for a tech.When a buissnes would have one sooner :)

I've had a 0.2Mbps to 1.5Mbps connection now for nearly 3 weeks despite paying for a 10 Mbps connection. Maybe if they shaped me they would up my speed to 5Mbps eh ;)

---------- Post added at 21:43 ---------- Previous post was at 21:41 ----------

To be fair, there is a world of difference between "a work related email" and "150Gb per week from work to enable me to work a lot from home", as you posted earlier.
I agree but I don't see a defining line on what users are and aren't allowed to do when working from home on their own personal connection

TraxData
12-05-2007, 21:43
I'm quite a heavy downloader, upto 670gig this month.

i rarely keep track of how much i download though.

And before anyone moans....i pay for it, im gonna use it :)

lezwez
12-05-2007, 21:44
i would say im not you can't really call anybody heavy downloader it's just a term to labble people something and is used to degrade and is made to make people feel crap same with many other things i can give examples.

i pay for my service you charge me how you want i don't care if i care to pay 100 pound thats my choise if i wont i eaither dont take out a service or i pick another.

to shape and throttle ones traffic is unfair and the company say it's because they want to help others out because of people useing to much what crap.

people dont need a 20 meg connection to look at emails and pictures of cats and browse forums it's not needed yet they want it to download and too upload very much DATA

if the company offer services and i pay my cash why can't we use our service how we all want sod the rest if they don't like it thats their problem pay up and don't suffer simple at the end of the day thats how it is to be fair cable should upgrade their equipment and make everyone happy and stop with the cut backs thats how you make everyone happy if they can't afford it then don't addvertise services that's can't be provided as to how they are advertised and put big warnings on how the service works not pages upon pages of contradiction.

i buy cigaretes 20 i want to smoke 20 not 15 because i damage the ozone layer stop this political correct bullS*it and stop acting like communists and provide what was offered.

now i had my rant over shapping and stuff i feel better. bye bye

4 people in the house with the same HABBITS over 1 month we all together go though 600GB per month well we used to on telewest untill this stuff happened if this is too much then don't addvertise unlimited addvertise something people can relate too and scrap the fair useage policey you pay you get you don't well you don't get so much service was never slow and never once anybody complained we were useing to much internet erm what the term.

1+1= 3

Wackahack
12-05-2007, 21:44
They say its the top 5% that will be effected, i think thats bollox atleast 70% are in the top list of dowmloaders with there capping numbers 350MB,750MB AND 3GB is it me or could you easyly do 350MB in an hour on xbox? or an hour on joost? as for 3GB thats nuffink i download that in 35mins at the mo.

I think the normal download on the whole would be around the 5-10GB mark a day with xbox, joost and youtube getting used the most.

Now admtable, i am in the top selection of downloaders getting through 50Gb a day easy i usealy do about 1.8TB a month give or take (i'm a completey mad at collecting real dvd versions of films with all the menus and what not.)

Safeman
12-05-2007, 21:55
i can see alot of people leaveing VM tbh the way things have been going wot next ??//

Locky
12-05-2007, 21:59
I'm quite a heavy downloader, upto 670gig this month.

i rarely keep track of how much i download though.

And before anyone moans....i pay for it, im gonna use it :)

that is the right attitude i am suprised noone said bout road tax yet lol

devil
12-05-2007, 22:14
I agree but there are lots of people who work from home and use there resi bb for this purpose and some of these can get very nasty when they get a fault and they have had to wait 1 to 3 days for a tech.When a buissnes would have one sooner :)

I agree that nedkelly but do u think people who work from home, can really afford Business connection and what difference is there.

---------- Post added at 02:44 ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 ----------

I'm quite a heavy downloader, upto 670gig this month.

i rarely keep track of how much i download though.

And before anyone moans....i pay for it, im gonna use it :)

WHAT DO U DOWNLOAD BY THE WAY ;)

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 22:19
To be fair, there is a world of difference between "a work related email" and "150Gb per week from work to enable me to work a lot from home", as you posted earlier.
:clap: i concur mister war ;)

Hugh
12-05-2007, 22:36
that is the right attitude i am suprised noone said bout road tax yet lol
Because it has all been said before, with metaphors and examples and what have you, and it just ends up in slanging matches.

The two differing viewpoints (very rarely) seem to find common ground, so it seems that most people who have been on the forum a while are just hanging back, letting the thread run its course (with the exception of a few brave individuals).

Bill C
12-05-2007, 22:40
Because it has all been said before, with metaphors and examples and what have you, and it just ends up in slanging matches.

The two differing viewpoints (very rarely) seem to find common ground, so it seems that most people who have been on the forum a while are just hanging back, letting the thread run it's course (with the exception of a few brave individuals).

Indeed. I am letting them all vent. Give it a month and this thread will be history along with all the others :)

As i have pointed out before i bet 90% of those venting will not have the balls to do what they have threatened to do and leave. They will still be here in 6 months time just like they are still here from the last time they all said they would leave :LOL:.

NO BALLS :D

Hugh
12-05-2007, 22:41
I agree that nedkelly but do u think people who work from home, can really afford Business connection and what difference is there.

If you are running a business, and your business depends on the internet connection, you should not be using a consumer product. Other comms companies Business products (I have never bought NTL Business, just C&W, EasyNet, BT) have better SLA's (4-8 response, 24 hour fix) than a Consumer product, but you pay for this - can't have it both ways (imho); it is like complaining that your Ford Ka can't carry all the parcels for your deliveries, so you can't deliver in time - not the car's fault. :rolleyes:

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 22:46
Indeed. I am letting them all vent. Give it a month and this thread will be history along with all the others :)
vauge history post,(seeing as history was mentioned) i once heard a story of a C & W employee who was on dial-up (ahhh the good old days) and he thought it was too slow so he went to the multiplexer and exchanged the ACM2 card for an ACM4 card to improve his download speeds,dont know how true this is.maybe billC could shed some light on it..:erm:

Bill C
12-05-2007, 22:47
vauge history post,(seeing as history was mentioned) i once heard a story of a C & W employee who was on dial-up (ahhh the good old days) and he thought it was too slow so he went to the multiplexer and exchanged the ACM2 card for an ACM4 card to improve his download speeds,dont know how true this is.maybe billC could shed some light on it..:erm: Me don't know anything about that must have been before my time :angel:

m044bz00
12-05-2007, 22:52
If you are running a business, and your business depends on the internet connection, you should not be using a consumer product.
As I say, that rules me out as I aren't running a business and don't have my own business so why suggest I should have a business connection?

on in an hour!
12-05-2007, 22:54
Me don't know anything about that must have been before my time :angel:
how did that angel get in there pal,trading standards will be on to you for misrepresentation of a smilie..he he :D

TraxData
12-05-2007, 23:37
I agree that nedkelly but do u think people who work from home, can really afford Business connection and what difference is there.

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WHAT DO U DOWNLOAD BY THE WAY ;)

Lot's of linux iso's :p: :angel:

Bill C
12-05-2007, 23:38
Lot's of linux iso's :p: :angel:

Ditto :angel:

2||Para
12-05-2007, 23:40
I honestly thought i was a fairly heavy downloader 20-30GB a month but after reading this thread i appear to be someway behind.

Hugh
12-05-2007, 23:40
As I say, that rules me out as I aren't running a business and don't have my own business so why suggest I should have a business connection?
Didn't say you were, mate - my advice was generic rather than specific to anyone (and I was, in fact, replying to devil's post).

What I said was that if someone depended on a service to do their work, they should get a service that gave appropriate Service Levels.

If any of my staff required 150gb a week downloads from the office to do their job, and they had delivery timescales to do that job in, I would ensure they had the appropriate equipment and services to do that (otherwise I wouldn't be doing my job as a manager). I would not regard consumer BB as an appropriate service (imho).

2||Para
12-05-2007, 23:41
Didn't say you were, mate - my advice was generic rather than specific to anyone.

What I said was that if someone depended on a service to do their work, they should get a service that gave appropriate Service Levels.

If any of my staff required 150gb a week downloads from the office to do their job, and they had delivery timescales to do that job in, I would ensure they had the appropriate equipment and services to do that (otherwise I wouldn't be doing my job as a manager). I would not regard consumer BB as an appropriate service (imho).

Especially with the shaping implemented.

m044bz00
13-05-2007, 00:19
If any of my staff required 150gb a week downloads from the office to do their job, and they had delivery timescales to do that job in, I would ensure they had the appropriate equipment and services to do that (otherwise I wouldn't be doing my job as a manager). I would not regard consumer BB as an appropriate service (imho).

It just gives me some flexability so that I can do work from home if I wish (basically video editing etc - download, edit and then when I go into work take the finished product with me). It's just a convenience for me and not a requirement for work or my employer

on in an hour!
13-05-2007, 00:22
It just gives me some flexability so that I can do work from home if I wish (basically video editing etc - download, edit and then when I go into work take the finished product with me). It's just a convenience for me and not a requirement for work or my employer
stop bleating then and get in your car and use your company's business bandwith ;)

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Didn't say you were, mate - my advice was generic rather than specific to anyone (and I was, in fact, replying to devil's post).

What I said was that if someone depended on a service to do their work, they should get a service that gave appropriate Service Levels.

If any of my staff required 150gb a week downloads from the office to do their job, and they had delivery timescales to do that job in, I would ensure they had the appropriate equipment and services to do that (otherwise I wouldn't be doing my job as a manager). I would not regard consumer BB as an appropriate service (imho).
:clap: well said again mr war ;)

m044bz00
13-05-2007, 00:56
stop bleating then and get in your car and use your company's business bandwith ;)
The only ones mard arseing are those like yourself because I have the felxability that enables me to work from home for around 70% of the time. Take a chill pill and smile ye miserable sod :D

on in an hour!
13-05-2007, 01:17
The only ones mard arseing are those like yourself because I have the felxability that enables me to work from home for around 70% of the time. Take a chill pill and smile ye miserable sod :D
im hapeeeeeeeeeee my friend,up at 7 2moz (today) for 4hrs of joyful fault rectification on the good old VM network,bet nobody mentions their call to india..NOT. :erm:
ows about sending me some oatcakes m8,i love them i do!!

2||Para
13-05-2007, 01:26
You got a direct line number i can have for future reference? ;) ;)

nutellajunkie
13-05-2007, 03:00
Ach, who knows.. I just enjoy having a real unlimited connection, no matter what the catch ;)

m044bz00
13-05-2007, 08:57
im hapeeeeeeeeeee my friend,up at 7 2moz (today) for 4hrs of joyful fault rectification on the good old VM network,bet nobody mentions their call to india..NOT. :erm:
ows about sending me some oatcakes m8,i love them i do!!
ow about fixing my bloody network then me owd duck and I'll send you some

Hugh
13-05-2007, 09:03
ow about fixing my bloody network then me owd duck and I'll send you some

Right away, Mr Branson, sir! :D