Hooray for Traffic Management!!

[Mr Angry]

Today I have downloaded 182mb during my browsing.

This morning my speeds were:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/143.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

This evening my speed is:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/144.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I'm really seeing the so called benefit of this move by VM.

Thanks, f***ers.

[kryogenik]

Wow. Gutted mate.
:(
Drastic.

[RXP]

Lol my speeds at prime time are exactly the same as they were before too. 1-2mbit and they were 20mbit in the morning.

[peanut]

Today I have downloaded 182mb during my browsing.

I'm really seeing the so called benefit of this move by VM.

Thanks, f***ers.

Nice to see a satisfied customer. :p:

(ps. Don't use it all at once, and be thankful for small mercies.). :p: :p:

[AntiSilence]

Try this one Mr. A...

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/

[kryogenik]

Earlier today (posted elsewhere on CF)
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/141.png (http://www.speedtest.net)


Now

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/142.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

I ain't even been online, been installing Linux on my lappy.

Odd..

:(

[Sirpingalot]

This shaping does appear to be a load of S'*t; it was supposed to be for the benefit of everyone, and it appears that the only "people" it's benefiting is Virgin, in that they are signing up more customers. I'm not happy about this, being a fairly new customer.

[Doofy]

Try this one Mr. A...

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/

My speed shows ok on that one and the one here if i go to speedtest.net it goes to less than 1mb.

Wed, 9 May 2007 19:20:27 UTC

1st 512K took 464 ms = 1103.4 KB/sec, approx 9092 Kbps, 8.88 Mbps
2nd 512K took 422 ms = 1213.3 KB/sec, approx 9998 Kbps, 9.76 Mbps
3rd 512K took 436 ms = 1174.3 KB/sec, approx 9676 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps
4th 512K took 425 ms = 1204.7 KB/sec, approx 9927 Kbps, 9.69 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 9673 Kbps, 9.45 Mbps



To repeat this test from the source server click here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.marsden/newspeedtest.html?1178738430511).


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/140.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Sirpingalot]

For me, it's not performing too badly. The prospects for the area that I'm in don't appear too good, though. - http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178738216&v=1299839

---------- Post added at 20:18 ---------- Previous post was at 20:17 ----------

Speedtest sites can be very missleading.

[ecksmen]

Isn;t the speed test from robins (link at top) more realiable than speedtest?

Only I've done tests from speedtest and they completely suck (suspected over used servers) where as the robins one returns what I'd think are more reliable. The other test I do is to download something large from microsauce such as a service pack or a trial software, however I suppose this is can also be proxied.

[Sirpingalot]

Demonstrated here - https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/139.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[Mr Angry]

Anti,

Last Result:
Download Speed: 334 kbps (41.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 218 kbps (27.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

fanf***ingtastic!!

Edit:

Courtesy of Mr Walker's:

Wed, 09 May 2007 19:21:24 GMT

1st 512K took 16718 ms = 30.6 KB/sec, approx 252 Kbps, 0.25 Mbps
2nd 512K took 13985 ms = 36.6 KB/sec, approx 302 Kbps, 0.29 Mbps
3rd 512K took 8109 ms = 63.1 KB/sec, approx 520 Kbps, 0.51 Mbps
4th 512K took 7547 ms = 67.8 KB/sec, approx 559 Kbps, 0.55 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 408 Kbps, 0.4 Mbps



To repeat this test from the source server click here (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.marsden/newspeedtest.html?1178738537812).

I am truly delighted!

Take note any VM CS employees.

If you receive a call at start of business tomorrow morning which the caller begins with "Right fu**er, who dreamed up this Traffic Management scam"? My advice would be to hang up on me immediately!!

[kryogenik]

Earlier today:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/53.jpg

Now:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/54.jpg

What's up with that?
Ain't even been online..
:(

[Sirpingalot]

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/138.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[AntiSilence]

Anti,

Last Result:
Download Speed: 334 kbps (41.8 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 218 kbps (27.3 KB/sec transfer rate)

fanf***ingtastic!!

Ah. Still crap then :erm:

[Sirpingalot]

Earlier today:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/53.jpg

Now:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/54.jpg

What's up with that?
Ain't even been online..
:(

Are you paying for 4 meg?

[punky]

I noticed VM throttled my connection, and I didn't download anywhere near 750 meg (i'm on 4meg).

Which reminds me, does the 750 meg count since 4pm, or across the day?

[Doofy]

Summat tells me this traffic shaping is going to be as easy to implement as virgin think, i downloaded a dvd this morn 4.7gb but my dumeter keeps telling me i did over 10 gig weird..

[kryogenik]

Are you paying for 4 meg?

Yes. My Connection is 4mb. I just seem to be throttled while I haven't even been online to use my connection.

[Sirpingalot]

I noticed VM throttled my connection, and I didn't download anywhere near 750 meg (i'm on 4meg).

Which reminds me, does the 750 meg count since 4pm, or across the day?

Good point. It's supposed to be between the hours of 4pm and 12am (8 Hours).

[ecksmen]

Summat tells me this traffic shaping is going to be as easy to implement as virgin think, i downloaded a dvd this morn 4.7gb but my dumeter keeps telling me i did over 10 gig weird..

Retransmissions?

[Doofy]

I noticed VM throttled my connection, and I didn't download anywhere near 750 meg (i'm on 4meg).

Which reminds me, does the 750 meg count since 4pm, or across the day?
I was under the impression it was between 4 and midnight like i say very strange...

[kryogenik]

I noticed VM throttled my connection, and I didn't download anywhere near 750 meg (i'm on 4meg).

Which reminds me, does the 750 meg count since 4pm, or across the day?

From what I under stood, it begins at 4PM? And resets every 4 hours?

[Sirpingalot]

Yes. My Connection is 4mb. I just seem to be throttled while I haven't even been online to use my connection.

For now, put it down to network updates, any longer and I'd give CS a phone-call.

[2||Para]

Download Failed (1) (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shapingdf4.jpg)

[Mr Angry]

I noticed VM throttled my connection, and I didn't download anywhere near 750 meg (i'm on 4meg).

Which reminds me, does the 750 meg count since 4pm, or across the day?

Gav,

I think they count backwards, retrospectively, to the point in time where you entered your contract taking the cumulative total of traffic downloaded since that date and dividing it by the number of successful balloon expeditions Mr Branson has made and then they use that as the base rate - or something.

[kryogenik]

For now, put it down to network updates, any longer and I'd give CS a phone-call.

I dunno whats going on.
My newserver is pulling full speed down. Speed Test here at CF is normal.
ALL my HTTP downloads are down by approximately half though.

Can anyone on the VM team explain how this is working?

[2||Para]

Whatever it is i am not impressed.The idea behind it is a good one but as usual the way they implement it is FUBAR!

[Sirpingalot]

Gav,

I think they count backwards, retrospectively, to the point in time where you entered your contract taking the cumulative total of traffic downloaded since that date and dividing it by the number of successful balloon expeditions Mr Branson has made and then they use that as the base rate - or something.

Can we include the unsucessfull too? >.<

[2||Para]

Mod edit (Gavin): Embedded imaged converted to attachment. Please use attachments for big files. Thank you.


I already did.

[Gareth]

Here's mine...

Wed, 09 May 2007 19:37:21 GMT

1st 512K took 1352 ms = 378.7 KB/sec, approx 3120 Kbps, 3.05 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1061 ms = 482.6 KB/sec, approx 3977 Kbps, 3.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 952 ms = 537.8 KB/sec, approx 4431 Kbps, 4.33 Mbps
4th 512K took 1161 ms = 441 KB/sec, approx 3634 Kbps, 3.55 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3791 Kbps, 3.7 MbpsI would complain but it's 10 times better than it was yesterday, so maybe tomorrow I'll be on 30Mb.

Oh, and this PC has been switched off until I got home from work at about 6:30pm-ish so unless my cat has been looking up stuff on the net without my knowledge, Virgin have got some explaining to do.

[kryogenik]

Whatever it is i am not impressed.The idea behind it is a good one but as usual the way they implement it is FUBAR!

Indeed.
My point is, I've not even been online (Hardly - the desktop was connected but un-manned). I've not downloaded anything at all! Not even over-bloody-heads.
Why am I throttled so?

[Mauldor]

The only way I used to measure my Speed is by Using Flashget and grabbing (or starting to) an Linux Iso - this gives me the true reading of10mbit where-as ALL the speed test vary from under 1mbit to 4mbit which I know for a fact not to be true.

[punky]

Gav,

I think they count backwards, retrospectively, to the point in time where you entered your contract taking the cumulative total of traffic downloaded since that date and dividing it by the number of successful balloon expeditions Mr Branson has made and then they use that as the base rate - or something.

:rofl:

Oddly enough I have just tested it, and its back to normal again. I don't think it was congestion as the speed in the monitor was capped so perfectly.

I wonder if VM do have a clue what they are doing with traffic shaping.

[kryogenik]

:rofl:

Oddly enough I have just tested it, and its back to normal again. I don't think it was congestion as the speed in the monitor was capped so perfectly.


Maybe you got reset? It's 8:45?

[Sirpingalot]

I believe that if you say the word beggining with S and ending with Y three times they take notice and put you upto 100mbit. Or so I found, anyway.

[Locky]

**** them.

[Sirpingalot]

Maybe you got reset? It's 8:45?

Do you know something?;)

But seriously, do they reset at 8.45 or something - my speeds are great now - http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178740092&v=1300401

[kryogenik]

Do you know something?;)



No, it's just over 4 hours since 4pm when the TMS starts being counted.
I'm just guessing at this point of course.

[Sirpingalot]

Oh. Speed seems good enough now *Touch wood*.

[punky]

Maybe you got reset? It's 8:45?

Actually, good point as its now exactly 4 hours since before. Still don't know why I was throttled, like Gareth, was well under even the 2 meg limit.

[kryogenik]

Very strange.

:-|

[iglu]

Courtesy of Mr Walker's:


Mr Angry, it's Dr Walker ;)

[Fingy]

Oi! Mr A! Pub?

Tried to do a speedtest and it just sat there, think it got bored trying to find a connection. Trying it again and the numbers are going backwards? Do we need to start peddling?

Now I can't get a result as my wireless keeps dropping, one of the neighbours must have got a new router or something. Again I ask... Pub?

Trying again...

Wed, 9 May 2007 20:13:03 UTC

1st 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
2nd 512K took 5594 ms = 91.5 KB/sec, approx 754 Kbps, 0.74 Mbps
3rd 512K took 7375 ms = 69.4 KB/sec, approx 572 Kbps, 0.56 Mbps
4th 512K took 3828 ms = 133.8 KB/sec, approx 1103 Kbps, 1.08 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 2594 Kbps, 2.54 Mbps


speedtestnet.com is still trying to get through the damp string!

[dav]

I'm as distraught about this throttling as most on the lower teirs but I'd like to raise a cautionary note. For the past month or so, the download speeds I've been getting have been spotty to say the least, but getting steadily worse until recently when they have bottomed out at 150 to 250kbps. This was on my wireless lappy. I tried my wired PC that hadn't been on for ages and got rock solid 2Mbps. Naturally I started blaming interference, crappy netgear router, wireless client/driver almost anything I could think of. It wasn't until tonight I thought to check my TCP/IP parameters (MTU/RWIN etc) and found these were screwed up. Set them back to something sensible via TCPOptimiser and the lappy is singing along beautifully now. OK, in the process I managed to scew up my wired PC settings so that I'm only getting <125kbps now, but you can't have everything.

The lesson I've learned tonight is that I was to eager to blame everything apart from the un-thought-of thing that was causing the real problem.

[homealone]

Oi! Mr A! Pub?

Tried to do a speedtest and it just sat there, think it got bored trying to find a connection. Trying it again and the numbers are going backwards? Do we need to start peddling?

Now I can't get a result as my wireless keeps dropping, one of the neighbours must have got a new router or something. Again I ask... Pub?

Trying again...

Wed, 9 May 2007 20:13:03 UTC

1st 512K took 531 ms = 964.2 KB/sec, approx 7945 Kbps, 7.76 Mbps
2nd 512K took 5594 ms = 91.5 KB/sec, approx 754 Kbps, 0.74 Mbps
3rd 512K took 7375 ms = 69.4 KB/sec, approx 572 Kbps, 0.56 Mbps
4th 512K took 3828 ms = 133.8 KB/sec, approx 1103 Kbps, 1.08 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 2594 Kbps, 2.54 Mbps


speedtestnet.com is still trying to get through the damp string!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6637325.stm

;)

seriously, or even nearer the topic, hopefully, I wouldn't give the speedtest net thingy any credibility, at all, 'Fingy' ;)

[Fingy]

It's all Mr A, he brings the average up!

I seem to have managed to speed up to what seems like a dial-up connection. There is no way we are anywhere near this top 5% or whatever it is. It will do no good, but several people are being moaned at tomorrow... have a feeling one of the will be me being moaned at! ;)

[brundles]

Summat tells me this traffic shaping is going to be as easy to implement as virgin think, i downloaded a dvd this morn 4.7gb but my dumeter keeps telling me i did over 10 gig weird..

How did you download the DVD? If using newsgroups, remember that it's encoded and will typically be about 10-15% (if I remember) more encoded on the newsgroups than it is when back on the harddisc. You've also got the PAR files which will add up.

That said, another flaw with DU meter is that anything else going on on your own home network will get counted on it. Streaming something from a PC to an Xbox with XBMC for example.

DU Meter isn't a bad program, it's just completed unsuited for what VM are recommending it for on today's home networks.

Edit: And remember that torrents don't download just what you ask, several clients will offer pieces unrequested to try and help things along - when you already have those parts. The client should tell you the useful data received and total data received though.

[Andrex]

If you used BitTorrent, the 'upload' thing also counts against general traffic I think. So if you downloaded 4.7gb and had a ratio of 1.0, you actually sent/received about 9.8gb.

[brundles]

While everyone is measuring the bandwidth, is anyone keeping an eye on the latency? Mr A's first speed test result did actually show an improved latency, but I suspect that was more luck than anything.

As someone who's primary line is a VOIP line (having ditched the TW landline for it over a year ago) I'll be mightly p***ed if the latency gets messed up. I suspect the gamers out there will feel the same.

[jcuk]

virgins broadband is outstanding for games, or it was when it was TW!

when this was released, we at CS aint heard anything, not 1 thing about it, and ill be in tomorrow with some questions of my own :|

its a funny one this, i dont reckon they will remove traffic shaping altogether, but nor do i believe they will keep it this way.

once enough calls start coming through (and each and every single call is logged) then the stats will start mounting up and virgin will begin to realise what effect its having, and what can be done to improve experience for all customers... if they dont recieve enough calls/complaints about the traffic throttling, they aint gonna do jack.

as with all businesses its statistics to the core! id reccommend picking up your virgin landlines and dialling free 151. start sharing your views with our employees and see what they think too - i cant see something like this lasting forever! - i hope lol

[Sirpingalot]

virgins broadband is outstanding for games, or it was when it was TW!

when this was released, we at CS aint heard anything, not 1 thing about it, and ill be in tomorrow with some questions of my own :|

its a funny one this, i dont reckon they will remove traffic shaping altogether, but nor do i believe they will keep it this way.

once enough calls start coming through (and each and every single call is logged) then the stats will start mounting up and virgin will begin to realise what effect its having, and what can be done to improve experience for all customers... if they dont recieve enough calls/complaints about the traffic throttling, they aint gonna do jack.

as with all businesses its statistics to the core! id reccommend picking up your virgin landlines and dialling free 151. start sharing your views with our employees and see what they think too - i cant see something like this lasting forever! - i hope lol

Please do have a word with them, cheers.

[Horace]

If you used BitTorrent, the 'upload' thing also counts against general traffic I think. So if you downloaded 4.7gb and had a ratio of 1.0, you actually sent/received about 9.8gb.

IIRC one of the support personnel on VM.d.broadband stated that upload wasn't counted towards the totals that trigger STM.


Just double checked and it was definitely stated that uploads do not count.

[LenMackin]

Traffic shaping, complain here about the VM advert http://www.asa.org.uk/asa/how_to_complain/

Let's not tollerate this, and by the way, I have a new SACM coming either tomorrow or friday to replace my TJ21 so i can get better 10mb speeds and be ready for the 20mb service. I am not going to upgrade now!

[xspeedyx]

Well my net seems fine with 10mb
http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178751438&v=1302657

I would what I'll get when I get 20mb

Sorry to all that have ****ty speeds

[Gareth]

Went away to watch the Apprentice and the other thingy on after it... when I started surfing again at about 11pm everything was back to normal. Downloading at 1200KB/sec from Giganews again now.

Very strange... almost makes me wonder about the possibility of being an innocent victim via modem cloning that Mr A referred to in another thread, cause it looked like I was being throttled yet I'd not downloaded anything all day myself.

[danielf]

I downloaded over 750MB tonight (on the 4 meg tier), and it dodn't look like I was throttled. :shrug:

[popper]

Gav,

I think they count backwards, retrospectively, to the point in time where you entered your contract taking the cumulative total of traffic downloaded since that date and dividing it by the number of successful balloon expeditions Mr Branson has made and then they use that as the base rate - or something.
well think of it this way MrA, your helping steve with his focus on cash flow...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...st-qtr-results (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/340/virgin-media-reveals-2007-first-qtr-results)
as Steve Burch said
"With reinvigorated products and packaging, and a focus on cash flow growth, the outlook for our business remains strong"


it doesnt seem to be throttling in your case ATM though as the upload rate would be a lot lower fixed 256k i assume, and your latency seems ok... so is it UBR oversubscription on the kit they pluged you into?.

when does MrA v VM begin and you appear before the judge BTW, will we get to see that thread ;)

---------- Post added at 01:35 ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 ----------

I'm as distraught about this throttling as most on the lower teirs but I'd like to raise a cautionary note. For the past month or so, the download speeds I've been getting have been spotty to say the least, but getting steadily worse until recently when they have bottomed out at 150 to 250kbps. This was on my wireless lappy. I tried my wired PC that hadn't been on for ages and got rock solid 2Mbps. Naturally I started blaming interference, crappy netgear router, wireless client/driver almost anything I could think of. It wasn't until tonight I thought to check my TCP/IP parameters (MTU/RWIN etc) and found these were screwed up. Set them back to something sensible via TCPOptimiser and the lappy is singing along beautifully now. OK, in the process I managed to scew up my wired PC settings so that I'm only getting <125kbps now, but you can't have everything.

The lesson I've learned tonight is that I was to eager to blame everything apart from the un-thought-of thing that was causing the real problem.

thats why i always advise people try and rule out their installed OS by downloading,burning and booting something like a slax liveCD to test the hardware/networking (assuming the liveCD has all the drivers required or you find one that does) slax ftp.slax.org (ftp://ftp.slax.org) has served me well with most generic hardware for a general testing tool for browsing/FTP/etc.

the slax FTP server is slow to download the ISO on 10Mbit though so dont use that as your speed test.

[Wackahack]

Well i'm an ex-telewest virgin customer, I download 50GB at the least a day.
I have yet to see any capping and dread the day i do.

If this is all because of the 20Mb, then i want no part of it, and to think i was excited by the thought of the soon to be 20Mb.

But hopefully, and one can only hope, they will only cap the ex-ntl part of the company as there the part the 20Mb upgrade will effect the most.

I'm more than sure the telewest part can handle 20Mb without customers seeing the downside of things at all.

Well one can hope, but thats all one can do :(.

[popper]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6637325.stm

;)

seriously, or even nearer the topic, hopefully, I wouldn't give the speedtest net thingy any credibility, at all, 'Fingy' ;)


perhaps they have a good wireless broadband in the Pub they can use while downing a guinness or 3. ;) laptops at the ready lads LOL.

---------- Post added at 01:49 ---------- Previous post was at 01:38 ----------

IIRC one of the support personnel on VM.d.broadband stated that upload wasn't counted towards the totals that trigger STM.


Just double checked and it was definitely stated that uploads do not count.

yes but as with all things (NTL:tw)VM it needs testing , so anyone on a confirmed throttled connection start uploading some files to your so called free VM webspace when your near the threshhold for your set rate.

and see if it is infact true that internal upload traffic isnt also being added to the total traffic for putting you over the limit then report back.

[Mr Angry]

well think of it this way MrA, your helping steve with his focus on cash flow...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...st-qtr-results (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/340/virgin-media-reveals-2007-first-qtr-results)
as Steve Burch said
"With reinvigorated products and packaging, and a focus on cash flow growth, the outlook for our business remains strong"


it doesnt seem to be throttling in your case ATM though as the upload rate would be a lot lower fixed 256k i assume, and your latency seems ok... so is it UBR oversubscription on the kit they pluged you into?.

when does MrA v VM begin and you appear before the judge BTW, will we get to see that thread ;)

---------- Post added at 01:35 ---------- Previous post was at 01:07 ----------



thats why i always advise people try and rule out their installed OS by downloading,burning and booting something like a slax liveCD to test the hardware/networking (assuming the liveCD has all the drivers required or you find one that does) slax ftp.slax.org (ftp://ftp.slax.org) has served me well with most generic hardware for a general testing tool for browsing/FTP/etc.

the slax FTP server is slow to download the ISO on 10Mbit though so dont use that as your speed test.

Mr A Vs VM commences soon and should, I would imagine, provide considerable reportage entertainment via outlets beyond these confines.

Whilst we're on the subject of confines, rubber cat suits, Ambrosia custard filled boots and what not, I must confess that the minxy chicks of CF have been causing considerable consternation of late. The very thought of Orangebird in her Pucci hot pants and Auld ma Fingy down the pub makes for an interesting evening.

Mrs Angry has pointed out that Kleenex are doing a 12 for 9 offer in Asda and, further, that she is leaving me for "a younger man".

How ghey is that?

[helmutcheese]

You need some Viagra :)

[popper]

Well i'm an ex-telewest virgin customer, I download 50GB at the least a day.
I have yet to see any capping and dread the day i do.

If this is all because of the 20Mb, then i want no part of it, and to think i was excited by the thought of the soon to be 20Mb.

But hopefully, and one can only hope, they will only cap the ex-ntl part of the company as there the part the 20Mb upgrade will effect the most.

I'm more than sure the telewest part can handle 20Mb without customers seeing the downside of things at all.

Well one can hope, but thats all one can do :(.
thats all very 'im alright jack ...' of you isnt it?.

and if your really downloading that 50GBytes at the least a day, then why arnt you being far more clever with it and getting your granddad next door interweb'ed up along with your local BB friends and setting up a Mesh'ed wireless community LAN to get eveyones content at a far better combined speed and saving WAN upload traffic in the process.... as it moves over the LAN far faster than any UK BB today.

[Mr Angry]

You need some Viagra :)

Helmutfromage, old chap.

You're obviously confusing "some" with "less" (in much the same way VM confuse their Traffic Management quotas for paying customers who don't exceed predetermined download quotas).

Seek help immediately!!

[helmutcheese]

The viagra was to stop your wife leaving for a younger guy :)

[Mr Angry]

The viagra was to stop your wife leaving for a younger guy :)

Too late, I've booked her a taxi.

[popper]

You need some Viagra :)

isnt that like Traffic Management in that it only lasts a few hours per day ;)

[Mr Angry]

isnt that like Traffic Management in that it only lasts a few hours per day ;)

Alas Popper you too are confused, it was Teriffic Management - where I could last all day!

Exhaustion seemed to be Mrs Angry's main problem.

[popper]

:rofl::bigcry::rofl::walk:

[Mr Angry]

6:15pm

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/126.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

3:10pm

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/127.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Not shaped, judging by the upload speeds, but certainly not seeing any benefit from the shaping of the 5%.

[RXP]

It's patently obvious what's the cause of the slow speeds, it isn't the 5% they're out of the equation now. It's the fact that the network cannot cope.

[smucks]

Date of Speed Test: 2007-05-10 19:34:59
Download Speed: 2189 kbps (273.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 478 kbps (59.8 KB/sec transfer rate)

Link to result: http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178822099&v=1308601

Thu, 10 May 2007 18:33:02 GMT

1st 512K took 3812 ms = 134.3 KB/sec, approx 1107 Kbps, 1.08 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2422 ms = 211.4 KB/sec, approx 1742 Kbps, 1.7 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2532 ms = 202.2 KB/sec, approx 1666 Kbps, 1.63 Mbps
4th 512K took 3203 ms = 159.9 KB/sec, approx 1318 Kbps, 1.29 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1458 Kbps, 1.43 Mbps

Same here yet again absolute cracking speed for the XL Fast 10 meg "NOT"

[Sirpingalot]

Hopefully all of this will be resolved when the upgrades to the network are complete.

[Fingy]

Just switched on my computer for the first today, husband hasn't been on his computer... so unless the cat has been surfing while we were at work...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/122.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/123.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

[nffc]

Thu, 10 May 2007 20:28:39 GMT

1st 512K took 3061 ms = 167.3 KB/sec, approx 1379 Kbps, 1.35 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2723 ms = 188 KB/sec, approx 1549 Kbps, 1.51 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2296 ms = 223 KB/sec, approx 1838 Kbps, 1.79 Mbps
4th 512K took 2069 ms = 247.5 KB/sec, approx 2039 Kbps, 1.99 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1701 Kbps, 1.66 Mbps

[Fingy]

Purely for amusement I'm on hold for tech support, see what they try to fob me off with.

[Sirpingalot]

Right now? What've they said?

[Fingy]

Nothing spectacular, and I've had to get them to repeat everything about 3 million times as I can't understand them, and I'm normally pretty good.
:shrug: Shock... Horror... I'm on hold!

Ok... so I don't have patience, just hung up on her, must be my router etc...

[Sirpingalot]

Hold? No, Virgin don't put you on hold, silly. ;)

[Mr Angry]

Have you been at the giggle juice?

[Fingy]

Now playing phoning loads and trying to get through to Swansea. No giggle juice, may need it... or possibly some of what I mentioned to you earlier.

[nffc]

Why did you admit to having a router?

[AntiSilence]

Why did you admit to having a router?

Maybe he fancied a challenge! :D

[nffc]

Maybe he fancied a challenge! :D
Lol!

But you just know Tech Support will instantly blame a router / virus / spyware once they're aware of it.

I just don't admit it. Not that there's much I've not been able to fix myself.

[AntiSilence]

Lol!

But you just know Tech Support will instantly blame a router / virus / spyware once they're aware of it.

I just don't admit it. Not that there's much I've not been able to fix myself.

No, I wouldn't admit it either. And you try telling them you're not using Internet Explorer...

[Druchii]

Told them i was using a router earlier, and Firefox, i was through to india, they had actually heard of Firefox, and told me to direct connect to troubleshoot.

[2||Para]

Tell them you have a router when you dont and watch them real off the excuses! I did this once and let the Indian guy tell me how it was my routers fault and that there was nothing they could do as my connection was fine at their end.

He put the phone down when i told him i didnt really have a router and asked "what shall i try next?"

[AntiSilence]

When I first noticed that my ping was sporadic and I was getting the 'There is a problem with your connection' message on our BF2 server, I took the modem out of the router and had it plugged directly into my PC. Didn't solve anything.

Never phoned CS about it though. Might do if I keep getting it.

[nffc]

No, I wouldn't admit it either. And you try telling them you're not using Internet Explorer...
Well I always test things in IE and firefox if i'm getting weirdness.
Told them i was using a router earlier, and Firefox, i was through to india, they had actually heard of Firefox, and told me to direct connect to troubleshoot.

:rolleyes:

You mean hadn't? ;)

[Druchii]

Well I always test things in IE and firefox if i'm getting weirdness.


:rolleyes:

You mean hadn't? ;)
Well, they seemed to know it was another browser at least :p:

[Fingy]

Thats right, pick on me and give me a sex change? :p: ;)

I know its in my notes about the router etc. Gave up in the end and went to the neighbours for wine, who needs the interclicky! ;)

[Mr Angry]

The saga continues!!

My speed this morning:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/109.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Modem knocks itself off line for 23 minutes commencing 17:19hrs

My DU Meter results for today at 17:43hrs are 180.16mb down & 30.12mb up.

My speedtest results at 17:46hrs

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/110.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Admittedly from the upload speeds it's evident that I'm not being "managed" but can anyone explain to me how traffic management of the rogue 5% is improving my service?

[RXP]

ha, I logged onto my ubuntu laptop and thought the internet is amazingly quick tonight. But it had automatically connected to my 2mbit Sky connection. I realise how absurd that sounds - 2mbit dsl faster than 20mbit cable.

[Sirpingalot]

The saga continues!!

My speed this morning:
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/109.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Modem knocks itself off line for 23 minutes commencing 17:19hrs

My DU Meter results for today at 17:43hrs are 180.16mb down & 30.12mb up.

My speedtest results at 17:46hrs

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/110.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Admittedly from the upload speeds it's evident that I'm not being "managed" but can anyone explain to me how traffic management of the rogue 5% is improving my service?

You're testing to the London server, which is generally accepted as being unreliable.

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178906611&v=1317684

[Mr Angry]

You're testing to the London server, which is generally accepted as being unreliable.

http://www.speedtest.bbmax.co.uk/results.php?t=1178906611&v=1317684

No moreso than Dublin, St Petersburg, Kiev and Frankfurt it would appear.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/105.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/106.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/107.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2007/05/108.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

That and the fact that my modem rebooted itself again for about ten minutes just there now.

And, just for good measurement (see readers amusement);

Last Result:
Download Speed: 3914 kbps (489.3 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 479 kbps (59.9 KB/sec transfer rate)