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yesman
22-04-2007, 21:04
St George's Day should be made a national holiday in England, a Conservative MP has said.

On the eve of the patron saint's day, Andrew Rosindell suggested scrapping the May Day Bank Holiday to make way for a day off on 23 April.
"I feel that it is time that we asserted our Englishness," the Romford MP told GMTV.
"Why should England be one of very few countries in the world that doesn't have a public holiday to celebrate their national day?" he said.

Fine but does he think that people want a day off, Yes!, without pay, No!

There is also the fact that scapping one day off is not very likely to happen certainly not as likely as another Bank Holiday.

There is also the problem that St. George is also patron saint of Canada, Catalonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Greece, Montenegro, Portugal, Serbia and quite a few cities like Istanbul and Moscow. So not exactly English seeing as he was a Roman Soldier of the 3rd. Century from Anatolia and in all probability never came anywhere near these islands.

So we have calls for a national day for St George which is likely to cost small businesses for days off etc. etc.

It has been called for in previous years so the risk of something happening must be getting higher.

Russ
22-04-2007, 21:09
When we get St Taff's day off, I'll agree to St Saesneg.

Tezcatlipoca
22-04-2007, 21:14
I think it should be a Public Holiday in England.

[or, better still, we should switch to someone like St Alban & have a holiday for his day instead, rather than some Roman soldier from Turkey who never came to England & is also the patron saint of many other countries plus also sufferers of syphilis etc.]


Then, Wales can have Saint David's Day as a Public Holiday, & Scotland can have Saint Andrew's Day [or not, seeing as they already get an extra day at New Year grrr].


Seeing as Northern Ireland - which is part of the UK - already has Saint Patrick's Day as a Holiday.

Halcyon
22-04-2007, 21:17
Anything to add more holidays is a good thing. :tu:

Cobbydaler
22-04-2007, 21:22
St George's Day should be made a national holiday in England, a Conservative MP has said.

On the eve of the patron saint's day, Andrew Rosindell suggested scrapping the May Day Bank Holiday to make way for a day off on 23 April.
"I feel that it is time that we asserted our Englishness," the Romford MP told GMTV.
"Why should England be one of very few countries in the world that doesn't have a public holiday to celebrate their national day?" he said.


The trouble is, this is in danger of becoming a political argument.

May Day bank holiday is celebrating 'International Workers Day' & could be perceived as a Socialist invention.

St. Georges Day as a bank holiday would no doubt be seen as a Nationalistic holiday pandering to the BNP & racists in general.

There are those that suggest one holiday a month, taken as a long weekend, instead of the current Bank Holiday tradition. No religious or political significance could then be construed...

Wicked_and_Crazy
22-04-2007, 21:22
Anything to add more holidays is a good thing. :tu:

errm it would be replacing an exisiting holiday?

Halcyon
22-04-2007, 21:28
errm it would be replacing an exisiting holiday?

Ah, I see. Ooops.
Well in that case just juggle them round a bit and add it in somewhere.
I think we don't have enough holidays.

yesman
22-04-2007, 21:38
The trouble is, this is in danger of becoming a political argument.

May Day bank holiday is celebrating 'International Workers Day' & could be perceived as a Socialist invention.

St. Georges Day as a bank holiday would no doubt be seen as a Nationalistic holiday pandering to the BNP & racists in general.

There are those that suggest one holiday a month, taken as a long weekend, instead of the current Bank Holiday tradition. No religious or political significance could then be construed...

I can see what you are saying, but I think most of the English people would only see it as another national/bank holiday which at this time of year would be very welcome, and not some sort of political statement.

Tezcatlipoca
22-04-2007, 21:39
St. Georges Day as a bank holiday would no doubt be seen as a Nationalistic holiday pandering to the BNP & racists in general.


As Northern Ireland has St. Patrick's Day as a Public Holiday, then why shouldn't England, Wales, & Scotland each have their respective Saint's Day as a Holiday?



EDIT - Yes, I know the actual suggestion mentioned in the 1st post is just for St. George's Day, but why not all?

Paul
22-04-2007, 22:23
Do we really need another holiday in April ? - no thanks.

I'd sooner have one in July.

homealone
22-04-2007, 22:38
well my mum got a bit emotional when she saw a saint george flag, today, so while I agree about the distribution of 'bank holidays' I would personally rather have a saints day, than a mayday?

danielf
22-04-2007, 23:16
I think the May bank holiday should remain, for the political reasons outlined above. I also think there is nothing wrong with having an English national day. Seeing England/the UK work the longest hours in Europe anyway, I would suggest making St. George's day an additional holiday. Obviously, this would mean the other home nations can have their own national holiday.

Maggy
22-04-2007, 23:21
I want as many bank holidays as possible....St Georges day because it's Shakespeare's anniversary of his birth and death,Trafalgar day, and a Churchill day just for starters.I reckon one Bank holiday per month would be a great idea. ;)

joglynne
22-04-2007, 23:27
Civil servants get a day off to celebrate the Queen's Birthday. Just thought I would throw that titbit of information into the mix. Come to think of it they also get 1/2 day for Maunday Thursday.

maddyp
22-04-2007, 23:39
it is not racist, or political or anything..it is an excuse for a holiday so yes please!!!
look at the us they hve presidents day and al take it off even though it is bush...so that proves a holiday is a holiday with no political or social concience

lauzjp
23-04-2007, 07:33
Anything to add more holidays is a good thing. :tu:

:D I agree.

Xaccers
23-04-2007, 09:33
Do we really need another holiday in April ? - no thanks.

I'd sooner have one in July.

Yeah, I'm already 2 days pay down in April, and another 2 in May, so while I'd like an extra day off, I don't like missing out on income because of it, so given the choice, I'd work.
Course, after August I might find a perm job and give up contracting.

So I voted for and against ;)

Pia
23-04-2007, 09:58
I voted in favour of, cos even though i'd probably have to work it i'd get double time or a lieu day ;)

zing_deleted
23-04-2007, 11:09
No it shouldnt there is no such things as dragons and there never was not in the mythical sense anyway. Makign it a holiday would be plain stupid

Captain_caveman
23-04-2007, 11:20
St George's day should be celebrated, the more people that fly the flag, campaign for it to be a holiday and spread the word, the better. It would reclaim the flag (and Englishness) from the bnp et al. OK he may not have been English, he may be the patron of other countries, but think of the celebration that could be had if all those countries got together on that day and partied.
So raise a glass of English ale, sing Jerusalem at the top of your voice Fly the cross of St George, and celebrate.

HAPPY ST GEORGE'S DAY

TheDaddy
23-04-2007, 12:06
errm it would be replacing an exisiting holiday?

Might be an idea to create an additional one, seeing as we do quite poorly compared to the rest of the developed world when it comes to National holidays

Salu
23-04-2007, 12:21
Surely the formation of a commemorative day for St George should be birthed from an inherent national patriotism? In the absence of patriotism it would just be another day off. As the proposition seems to be swapping a May Bank Holiday, I don’t see the point really.
I am in favour though of anything we can do to stop the insidious trend to overwork that this country seems to have. So an extra Bank Holiday would be worth considering. When though is the issue……July or November perhaps?

BBKing
23-04-2007, 13:16
it is not racist, or political or anything

It's not racist, but it is political, since it's an unpleasant Thatcherite suggesting scrapping an international left-wing holiday and replacing it with a nationalistic English one. Leave it alone, I say. Rosindell is a berk anyway.

Xaccers
23-04-2007, 14:45
What exactly is wrong with a nationalistic English holiday?

Orior
23-04-2007, 21:29
We Irish living in the north of Ireland have to work on Saint Patrick's day. We have to take to take two days off in July to celebrate our protestant orange culture. Explain that!

Tezcatlipoca
24-04-2007, 01:27
We Irish living in the north of Ireland have to work on Saint Patrick's day.


It's still a Bank Holiday there though, isn't it?

Do you all have to work, or just some?

There's no legal right to have Bank Holidays off work. Many people in Britain have to work on Bank Holidays (or use their annual leave to take them off)

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To add to why I think England should have its Saint's day as a Holiday -

(in addition to May Day IMO, not instead of)

It seems Scotland is going to be having Saint Andrew's Day as a Bank Holiday -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Holiday


So, that's NI & now also Scotland.


So why not let England & Wales have their respective Saint's day as a Holiday?

Maggy
24-04-2007, 14:31
Hey! I wanna celebrate everyone's saints day.After all I'm a mongrel with English,Scottish and Irish blood in me...and I'm married to a Taff.:cleader:

AntiSilence
24-04-2007, 19:21
I reckon one Bank holiday per month would be a great idea. ;)

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