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homealone
10-05-2005, 21:34
I was very pleased to see this report today

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4532071.stm

if anyone has ever seen - and heard - one of these aircraft stand on its tail & climb like a rocket, as I have, you will join me in hoping they really achieve the goal :tu:

gary_580
10-05-2005, 21:38
Brings back memories of going to Waddington Airshow about 23 years ago.

Theodoric
10-05-2005, 22:00
My initial reaction to the title was, "I don't remember Mr Spock ever being able to fly." :)

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 22:03
That would be wicked to see the Vulcan fly again!!!!

Such noise, the sight of it, what an aircraft.

A true classic.

'nuff said!

BBKing
10-05-2005, 22:05
Terrific machine - saw one at Abingdon many years ago - you don't see or hear them, you feel them. Four Olympus engines pointed at you does tend to make all other senses shut down for self protection.

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 22:07
It was the way that they used to do like the Lightning and skim the runway and then whooosh! Go vertical on full reheat, what an aircraft!

one of the best!

ikthius
10-05-2005, 22:07
I hope so, that is a cool big bird, and I have seen it at airshows, very nice machine

ik

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 22:11
Just like the Victor..

homealone
10-05-2005, 22:17
Brings back memories of going to Waddington Airshow about 23 years ago.

I am not sure where the last time I saw one flying, was - I think it was RAF St Mawgan in the 80's, so about the same time as you at Waddington - which is coming soon ;)
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Terrific machine - saw one at Abingdon many years ago - you don't see or hear them, you feel them. Four Olympus engines pointed at you does tend to make all other senses shut down for self protection.

only the 'blackbird' ever beat it for that :cool:

gary_580
10-05-2005, 22:29
only the 'blackbird' ever beat it for that :cool:

i think the Vulcan wins that battle. Might just be that i was a lot younger when i last saw the Vulcan fly but all i can remember is the feeling of my chest vibrating from the noise. I dont remember the blackbird doing that.

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 22:35
Chest thwacking!

I loved the Vulcan when it was flying!

Used to have a poster of it on my wall for years!

Beautiful.

BBKing
10-05-2005, 22:43
only the 'blackbird' ever beat it for that

Got a bit boring after a while - I spent my entire school career under the Mildenhall flight path so it was a bit 'oh, another SR-71'. We used to get excited when a 747 went over on a charter, mind you, and the airshow was always good fun, unless you wanted to drive anywhere. Suffolk being pretty flat, you could just sit and watch the planes fly over.

I had pictures of Buccaneers on my wall - a schoolmate's dad was a nav on them (and previously on Vulcans, later on Tornados). Magnificent machines.

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 22:43
For some V Bomber pics see the latest albulm on m msn 'my space' link in my sig

homealone
10-05-2005, 22:51
i think the Vulcan wins that battle. Might just be that i was a lot younger when i last saw the Vulcan fly but all i can remember is the feeling of my chest vibrating from the noise. I dont remember the blackbird doing that.

I'll concede that point - the Vulcan did vibrate my chest more than the blackbird, which was more 'loud' overall to my ears, presumably because I only heard the SR71 doing missions, not displays ;) - I was only a young lad then & was indoors, it was still bl00dy loud :cool:

gary_580
10-05-2005, 22:53
I'll concede that point - the Vulcan did vibrate my chest more than the blackbird, which was more 'loud' overall to my ears, presumably because I only heard the SR71 doing missions, not displays ;) - I was only a young lad then & was indoors, it was still bl00dy loud :cool:

young lad??? Im sure the wright brothers plane was much quieter :D

Flubflow
10-05-2005, 22:56
It was the way that they used to do like the Lightning and skim the runway and then whooosh! Go vertical on full reheat, what an aircraft!

one of the best!

Don't think the Vulcan had reheat.

gary_580
10-05-2005, 23:04
Don't think the Vulcan had reheat.

oh yes it did, it was fitted to the Avro Vuclan Bomber

Bill C
10-05-2005, 23:05
I was very pleased to see this report today

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4532071.stm

if anyone has ever seen - and heard - one of these aircraft stand on its tail & climb like a rocket, as I have, you will join me in hoping they really achieve the goal :tu:


I have to admit it turns me into a big kid just hoping i see one of these fly again

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 23:05
oh yes it did, it was fitted to the Avro Vuclan Bomber

Oh yes!!!

Nothing like it!!!

:disturbd:

gary_580
10-05-2005, 23:08
Oh yes!!!

Nothing like it!!!

:disturbd:

http://www.snecma.com/en/news/snecma_magazine/4/snecma_1404_50a53_GB_baf.pdf

afterburner was added.

homealone
10-05-2005, 23:15
there was a documentary, recently, which had most of the 'British' technological response to the 'Cold War' years, including the V Bombers and our independent development of a fusion bomb discussed, - but TSR2 being scrapped & the switch to Polaris not even being mentioned...

Tuftus
10-05-2005, 23:32
there was a documentary, recently, which had most of the 'British' technological response to the 'Cold War' years, including the V Bombers and our independent development of a fusion bomb discussed, - but TSR2 being scrapped & the switch to Polaris not even being mentioned...

TSR2 - Way (decades) ahead of its time, such a shame.

BBKing
11-05-2005, 00:04
The Olympus (201 and 301) on the Vulcan didn't have reheat. That PDF referred to the later Olympus 593B as fitted to Concorde, which did have reheat, having been developed from the TSR.2 version. The Vulcan, not being supersonic, didn't need it. Same engine, different version.

http://www.skomer.u-net.com/projects/olympus.htm

The TSR.2 was an incredibly odd looking thing. Huge (go and look at the one at Cosford), but with only a two man crew, and would probably have given the RAF a Tornado equivalent (or better, quite possibly) ten years earlier. Scrapping it, in hindsight was a ridiculous idea (apparently it was partly down to Lord Mountbatten racing around trying to sabotage it so the Navy would get more funding).

Halcyon
11-05-2005, 00:32
That would definately be briliant to see it flying again.
I'm in Leicestershire so will see if I can dig around and see if I can find out any more info.

As for the Blackbird....Very much also a great plane. Havent seen many around. Last one I saw was in Duxford museum.

If they can bring back the Vulcan, then they must bring back the Concorde.....with a few modifications of course, but I'd love to see it fly again.

gary_580
11-05-2005, 08:58
The Olympus (201 and 301) on the Vulcan didn't have reheat. That PDF referred to the later Olympus 593B as fitted to Concorde, which did have reheat, having been developed from the TSR.2 version. The Vulcan, not being supersonic, didn't need it. Same engine, different version.

http://www.skomer.u-net.com/projects/olympus.htm



Thats not how i read it. Sounds to me as if the Avro Vulcan was a test bed for the 593B :confused:

BBKing
11-05-2005, 18:34
It was a test bed for the TSR.2's engine, as it was for the VC-10's Conways earlier and later Concorde and Tornado. A few snippets (read the original pages though, they're fascinating).

http://www.thunder-and-lightnings.co.uk/tsr2/history.html
Engine development problems had also surfaced. The Bristol-Siddely Olympus engines were an all-new development and suffered various problems, which resulted in the destruction of a Vulcan testbed aircraft on the ground.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avtsr2.html
The worst technical problems were with engine development. The first flight-worthy Olympus 320-22R was fitted to the belly of an Avro Vulcan bomber in a very large housing with split twin inlets, with flight tests beginning in February 1962. The Olympus 320-22R was so powerful that it could keep the Vulcan flying without use of the bomber's own four engines. In fact, the engine was probably too powerful, pushing the state of the art, a consequence of the severe specification that the TSR.2 had to be able to maintain Mach 2.2 for 45 minutes. The engine exploded on the ground on 3 December 1963, destroying the Vulcan, as well as a fire truck that didn't stay out of harm's way. There were two more major engine failures over the next six months.

http://aeroflt.users.netlink.co.uk/types/uk/avro/vulcan/Vulcan.htm
After retirement from squadron service, several B. Mk 1s were used for engine manufacturers flight trails. The Vulcan being ideal for this duty because of its high performance and good ground clearance. A pod containing the test engine was fitted over the bomb bay area and fuel lines etc plumbed in. The TSR 2, Concorde and Tornado programmes all benefitted from this type of testing.

And a photo of a testbed:
http://www.avrovulcan.org.uk/crown_copyright/903_farnborough.htm

homealone
04-09-2006, 10:31
well a bit of a bump, but it looks like the project to get a Vulcan back in the air has had a last minute reprieve

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/04/vulcan_project_saved/

- it would have been such a shame if it had fizzled out after all the hard work already done :tu:

basa
04-09-2006, 11:04
I think everyone (who is interested in military aircraft) would love to see a Vulcan fly again.:cool:

Sadly I don't think you'll ever see the aerobatic type displays Vulcan was famed for since I think it would be too risky for a privately funded organisation.:disturbd:

I have always lived within 5 miles or so of the BA Woodford plant in Cheshire (used to be AV Roe) so am very used to the noise of the Vulcan from a very early age. A spine tingling sound. Shame they stopped the annual flying displays there. :(

Does anyone remember the mini Vulcans I recall flying around ? This is one of my very earliest memories of AV Roe at Woodford.:erm:

EDIT: Yeh .. the 707 (http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/types/uk/avro/707/707.htm) (not Boeing :rolleyes: ). Flew from 1949 up 1967 (when I was about 19 .. but I don't recall seeing any that recently .. I can only just remember them so I would estimate around 1953 to 63).

Cobbydaler
04-09-2006, 11:13
well a bit of a bump, but it looks like the project to get a Vulcan back in the air has had a last minute reprieve

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/04/vulcan_project_saved/

- it would have been such a shame if it had fizzled out after all the hard work already done :tu:

Great news!!

Having seen Vulcans at many airshows over the years, including XH558's last display at Cranfield's Dreamflight in 1992, it would be fantastic to see/feel/hear one in the air again...

I also saw a Vulcan test bed, flying with the Concorde engines at Farnborough as a child in the mid to late 60's.

SnoopZ
04-09-2006, 12:02
My initial reaction to the title was, "I don't remember Mr Spock ever being able to fly." :)

My thoughts exactly. :D

[edit]

God this thread is old.....

Halcyon
05-09-2006, 14:33
I went to see it in it's hanger in April. Very nice plane indeed and I'm very happy it will make it back into the skies.
All the workers have been putting a lot of time into this project and I can't wait to see it in the sky.

Talking of Vulcan's, I saw another one at Nottingham East Midlands Aeropark this weekend but it is not in flying condition.

Gareth
05-09-2006, 14:36
God this thread is old.....Yeah, half the people who have posted in this thread originally aren't even members any more. :erm:

Hugh
05-09-2006, 15:24
Yeah, half the people who have posted in this thread originally aren't even members any more. :erm:

And I wasn't a member when this thread was started!

I remember driving along the A15 from Lincoln to RAF Digby in the late 70's, and the Vulcans would take off over the road, and your car would shake as they went overhead.

Low-flying jets - the sound of freedom! (unless they had a red star on the side)

dilli-theclaw
05-09-2006, 15:27
Yeah, half the people who have posted in this thread originally aren't even members any more. :erm:I can only see one that isn't a membe gary_580.... Bill still is (albeit a different name) - How do you get 'half the people' from that?:confused:

Angua
05-09-2006, 15:31
:bsmack:

Saw the Vulcan fly at Brize Norton. One of those aircraft you simply have to see for yourself, totally awsome watching something so big and lumbering move so gracefully.

dilli-theclaw
05-09-2006, 15:33
:bsmack:

Saw the Vulcan fly at Brize Norton. One of those aircraft you simply have to see for yourself, totally awsome watching something so big and lumbering move so gracefully.I can't help being thick :( :bigcry:

Angua
05-09-2006, 15:51
I can't help being thick :( :bigcry:
:hugs: I wasn't getting at you but Gareth ;)

homealone
05-09-2006, 16:20
And I wasn't a member when this thread was started!

I remember driving along the A15 from Lincoln to RAF Digby in the late 70's, and the Vulcans would take off over the road, and your car would shake as they went overhead.

Low-flying jets - the sound of freedom! (unless they had a red star on the side)

I count myself very lucky to have grown up so close to some of our classic aircraft, including Hunters at North Weald, & Lightnings at Binbrook, but the one that always impressed more than any other was the Vulcan - even compared to the Victors & Valiants it was special & one of the most agile aircraft for its size I have ever seen. I doubt they will risk such acrobatic displays with the rebuilt aircraft, but I can't wait to see one in the air, again

Halcyon
05-09-2006, 16:38
I will try to get down to Bruntingsthorpe when they fly it for the first time.
Think it will be some time in April.

BBKing
18-10-2007, 12:12
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7049694.stm

Fingers crossed for them, this is momentous stuff.

Uncle Peter
18-10-2007, 12:47
Excellent stuff, I've fond memories of watching them from the back garden flying figure 8's when I was a nipper. Just finished reading "Vulcan 607": an excellent book about it's role in the Falklands conflict :)

BBKing
18-10-2007, 12:52
According to pprune:

Gear's up and training filthy black line into the distance!

Well and truly awesome.

Excellent stuff. There's a webcam here

http://vbc02.verifiedalarms.co.uk/

but typically I wasn't watching it at the right time.

Aragorn
18-10-2007, 13:00
It is flying :-)
There is a webcam on the Vulcan to the Sky (http://www.tvoc.co.uk/multimedia.asp) website, which is showing it in flight!

BBKing
18-10-2007, 13:08
Bloody busy. Pprune guys are complaining that Sky News cut to commercials 20 seconds before she landed!

c1rcle
18-10-2007, 13:25
One flew over my house once & stuff fell off shelves, it was awesome :D

Aragorn
18-10-2007, 16:24
Short video (http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7050000/newsid_7051100?redirect=7051162.stm&news=1&bbram=1&nbwm=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1) of the flight on BBC website now.
Looks very graceful.

Tightscot
18-10-2007, 16:34
is that a man in drag 34 seconds into the bbc clip?

Aragorn
18-10-2007, 16:37
The one in the union jack? Don't think so, just a weird dress sense!

Tightscot
18-10-2007, 16:42
yeah the one in the union jack... :eek:

checker
18-10-2007, 16:43
:bsmack:

Saw the Vulcan fly at Brize Norton. One of those aircraft you simply have to see for yourself, totally awsome watching something so big and lumbering move so gracefully.
You should have seen one do a roll !!!!

Vlad_Dracul
18-10-2007, 19:14
I was very pleased to see this report today

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/4532071.stm

if anyone has ever seen - and heard - one of these aircraft stand on its tail & climb like a rocket, as I have, you will join me in hoping they really achieve the goal :tu:


Thats brilliant. It is so sad to see these planes just sitting there rusting and wrecked,like the one that was parked at Blackpool for a while. I dont' know how the RAF could allow it but then i guess they are justy old tools of the trade.

I remember seeing a Vulcan doing all sorts of tricks at an airsow in Yorkshire a few years back. I think it was RAF Church Fenton?

It was a truly awesome experience-such incredible power and yet so elegant and graceful.

I had gone there with a girl whom I quite fancied. The Vulcan was not the only awesome sight on that day.

Anonymouse
18-10-2007, 19:56
You can only imagine what the Argies thought when they saw and heard that monster coming in low over Port Stanley!

Like the Spitfire and the Lancaster, a truly superb piece of British military engineering. Its manoeuvrability was incredible considering its wingspan; bombers are generally easy targets, but not this baby. And as for ruggedness - flying 8,000 miles without landing even once? That's some trick, even for military hardware.

Some planes belong in the air. The Vulcan definitely does.

homealone
18-10-2007, 20:04
I watched the clip on the BBC with a distinct lump in my throat, absolutely awesome & a real tribute to all the hard work put in to get her flying, again.

I'll be checking to see if it will be appearing at any any air shows, next summer :tu:

Jon T
18-10-2007, 20:11
I watched the clip on the BBC with a distinct lump in my throat, absolutely awesome & a real tribute to all the hard work put in to get her flying, again.

I'll be checking to see if it will be appearing at any any air shows, next summer :tu:

Waddigton and RIAT for deffinate I should think.

homealone
18-10-2007, 20:18
Waddigton and RIAT for deffinate I should think.

Well I hope Waddington, as that is only around an hours drive away :tu:

Jon T
18-10-2007, 20:22
Well I hope Waddington, as that is only around an hours drive away :tu:

It's not that much further from Mansfield :D

However, my mate and myself go down to Fairford(RIAT) for the weekend, combine an airshow weekend with a camping holiday.

Hom3r
18-10-2007, 20:33
yeah the one in the union jack... :eek:

AARRGGGHHH

Sorry but it is not called a Union jack (thats on a ship).

Its called the Union Flag.

---------- Post added at 20:33 ---------- Previous post was at 20:32 ----------

Perhaps this thread be renamed to say that is flying

homealone
18-10-2007, 20:45
It's not that much further from Mansfield :D

However, my mate and myself go down to Fairford(RIAT) for the weekend, combine an airshow weekend with a camping holiday.

sounds good :tu:

I was going to go to Waddington, this year, but it was rained off.

- and to agree with Hom3r, if a passing Mod could change the thread title to 'Vulcan flies again' or similar, that would be great :)

Wicked_and_Crazy
18-10-2007, 21:37
The one in the union jack? Don't think so, just a weird dress sense!

is it a woman??

Or a bloke who got dressing in the dark this morning and put his wifes syrup and dress on

---------- Post added at 21:32 ---------- Previous post was at 21:31 ----------


I was going to go to Waddington, this year, but it was rained off.



I believe Saturday was on. I know Sunday was cancelled

---------- Post added at 21:37 ---------- Previous post was at 21:32 ----------

AARRGGGHHH

Sorry but it is not called a Union jack (thats on a ship).

Its called the Union Flag.

The issue of whether it is acceptable to use the term "Union Jack" or not is one that used to cause considerable controversy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversy). It is often asserted that "Union Jack" should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_flags#Jacks) (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship), but it is not universally accepted that the "Jack" of "Union Jack" is a reference to such a jack flag and other explanations have been put forward.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag#_note-0) The Flag Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_Institute), the vexillological (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vexillological) organisation for the United Kingdom, asserts that this is not the case and is a "relatively recent idea". It also states "the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either [the Union Jack or the Union Flag] name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that 'the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag'."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Flag#_note-flaginst)


From Wiki

homealone
18-10-2007, 21:54
I believe Saturday was on. I know Sunday was cancelled

true - I had planned to go on the Sunday ;)

Wicked_and_Crazy
18-10-2007, 22:52
true - I had planned to go on the Sunday ;)

I remember going to Waddington the last time the Vulcans flew there. Was an amazing sight, the noise and vibration was even more amazing

Hugh
18-10-2007, 23:20
I used to drive along the A15 to RAF Digby from Lincoln, and when the Vulcans took off, we used to pull over to the side of the road to watch.

It was fantastic.

Halcyon
18-10-2007, 23:55
I so wished I had been there to see it fly !
I went last year to Bruntingsthorpe to see the work being done on her in the big hanger. It is an amazing plane.
Looking forward to see the vulcan flying :tu:

danielf
19-10-2007, 00:01
You should have seen one do a roll !!!!


Vulcan roll:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=in4Pmp84BWM

bringerofnoise
19-10-2007, 09:00
i remember standing next to a vulcan at east midlands in the 80's and it was very cool, never heard or seen one fly though.

For me the best sound, which always impresses is when a lancaster with escorts flys over head and up where i live this year the lancaster was flying real low could almost pass the pilot a cuppa :D i love the sound of prop planes and the sound and sight of the lancaster is well special :romance:

Halcyon
19-10-2007, 19:29
There is still one at East Midlands Airport park next to the airport. It can't fly anymore but you can on certain days go inside it to have a look.

bringerofnoise
19-10-2007, 21:46
ah i'll have to take the little un would be great to see inside plus my daughter look brilliant with headphones on ;)

thanks for that

Halcyon
19-10-2007, 22:45
Link to EMA Aero Park:
http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/cms/101/aeropark.html

Uncle Peter
19-10-2007, 22:56
There's also a Vulcan at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford which is handier if you're a bit further down south. In fact, even if you aren't you should go if you have any interest in aircraft or land warfare as it is a superb day out.

Halcyon
19-10-2007, 23:49
I have to agree with you. Duxford is one of the best aircraft museums in the country.
They also have a Concorde down there too, one of the test ones I believe and a Blackbird.

checker
20-10-2007, 15:54
Vulcan roll:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=in4Pmp84BWM

Thanks for that, a mark 1 Vulcan? The B2's can do that as well. The big tin triangle flies again.

Cobbydaler
06-07-2008, 11:55
XH558 & crew have been given the OK to fly at displays. :)

BBC Link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7491129.stm)

Link (http://www.tvoc.co.uk/)

It's on display at Waddington this weekend...

Halcyon
06-07-2008, 12:05
That is great news.
I've only seen it taxi-ing so far this year. Really want to hear it's loudness and see it flying.

Angua
06-07-2008, 12:57
You should have seen one do a roll !!!!
It did ;)

Jon T
06-07-2008, 13:31
All was very last minute, CAA allowed XH558 to fly to Waddington for static display only, Friday afternoon CAA issued full permit to fly. Before Sq Ldr David Thomas landed, he performed 3 demonstration displays in front of a CAA examiner, thus gaining his display authorisation. This enabled XH558 to take part fully in the flying display.

I couldn't get to Waddington, but have seen the videos of XH558's solo display, and also the flypast she performed with PA474(Battle of Britain Lancaster).

Simply brilliant, was nearly crying this morning watching them.

Everybody that loves the Vulcan ought to think seriously about joining the Vulcan to the Sky club(www.tvoc.co.uk). I did, not only are you supporting the aeroplane, but you also get access to a members only forum and also regular newletters etc.

Jon T
06-07-2008, 19:24
Update: She didn't fly today, alternator failure on one of her engines.

homealone
06-07-2008, 21:31
Update: She didn't fly today, alternator failure on one of her engines.

I know - I was there :cry:

- can't be helped, of course, but so disappointing, as I went specially to see it.

It was nearly redeemed by a brilliant 'mirrored' display by a Typhoon & a Spitfire, but just looking at a Vulcan on the ground isn't the same as seeing (and hearing) it fly ...

Osem
06-07-2008, 21:56
That is great news.
I've only seen it taxi-ing so far this year. Really want to hear it's loudness and see it flying.

You won't just hear it - you'll feel it!! Back in the early 1990's we were awaken from a very lazy late Sunday morning lie-in by what felt like an earthquake. I jumped out of bed and rushed outside to see a Vulcan bomber flying almost directly over our house on it's way towards Biggin Hill. Couldn't have been more than a few thousand feet. I've never heard anything like it! Even the procession of Concordes on their final flights into Heathrow a few years ago couldn't match the noise of the drama.

Great to see it back in the air!

Aragorn
06-07-2008, 22:09
I'm looking forward to seeing her at Farnborough in a fortnight - weather and alternators permitting :)

Jon T
06-07-2008, 22:09
I know - I was there :cry:

- can't be helped, of course, but so disappointing, as I went specially to see it.

It was nearly redeemed by a brilliant 'mirrored' display by a Typhoon & a Spitfire, but just looking at a Vulcan on the ground isn't the same as seeing (and hearing) it fly ...

Further update: apparantly it's not one of the alternators, but an alternator switch box, this information came from the crew, most likely one of the two Air Electronics Officers.

homealone
06-07-2008, 22:48
Further update: apparantly it's not one of the alternators, but an alternator switch box, this information came from the crew, most likely one of the two Air Electronics Officers.

The tannoy just said 'an electrical fault', they had started to run up the engines, but had then shut them down...

The flight the previous day seemed to go perfectly, though - It is still a brilliant project & a truly iconic airplane :tu:

- the best shelter on the base during the heavy rain late this afternoon, also, presumably ;)

Aragorn
10-07-2008, 15:54
Saw the Vulcan on a practice flight over Farnborough this afternoon. Lovely site. :) Unfortunately drizzling at the time so no photo opp, but hopefully there will be on the public days.

LSainsbury
10-07-2008, 16:13
Saw the Vulcan on a practice flight over Farnborough this afternoon. Lovely site. :) Unfortunately drizzling at the time so no photo opp, but hopefully there will be on the public days.

Farnborough?

You must mean Fairford surely??

RIAT Fairford this weekend - Farnborough next weekend....

Jon T
10-07-2008, 17:16
No, he meant Farnborough, flew over for "proving flights" that are required in order to appear at Fairford and Farnborough, one flight can count for both.

EDIT; this flight was also used as DA practice for Martin Withers. XH558 is now back at Waddington.

LSainsbury
10-07-2008, 18:47
No, he meant Farnborough, flew over for "proving flights" that are required in order to appear at Fairford and Farnborough, one flight can count for both.

EDIT; this flight was also used as DA practice for Martin Withers. XH558 is now back at Waddington.

Fair enough - just thought it was a bit odd seeing as this week is Fairford!

Dumb question: If it hisses down with rain, would some of the air displays get cancelled? I assume the Red's would...

Jon T
10-07-2008, 18:52
Fair enough - just thought it was a bit odd seeing as this week is Fairford!

Dumb question: If it hisses down with rain, would some of the air displays get cancelled? I assume the Red's would...

The arrows would put on their flat display, basically just a series of flypasts with no aerobatics. They have three displays, full, intermediate and flat.

The Vulcan was in the hands on a different pilot today, it's been piloted by Sqn Ldr David Thomas for pretty much every flight except the initial test flight in October last year. One of the aims of today's flight was to give Martin Withers a "feel" for the plane again.

BTW, Dave Thomas' wife, and the two main members of the engineering team post in the forum on www.tvoc.co.uk, that's where my information is from, I know that no one's asked that, but I thought i'd post it before someone said they'd hear different from elsewhere.

Uncle Peter
10-07-2008, 22:02
We're off to the RIAT this weekend and were hoping that XH558 would make an appearance but it was never even on the provisional list of displays (static or otherwise). Does anyone know different perhaps?

Angua
10-07-2008, 23:28
We're off to the RIAT this weekend and were hoping that XH558 would make an appearance but it was never even on the provisional list of displays (static or otherwise). Does anyone know different perhaps?

Have you got your tickets as they are not doing gate tickets on Saturday as sales have been good & they want to plan for traffic. Tickets are still available at various outlets.

I do hope the Vulcan flies as we hope to get a glimpse from the next county :tu:

Uncle Peter
10-07-2008, 23:47
Have you got your tickets as they are not doing gate tickets on Saturday as sales have been good & they want to plan for traffic. Tickets are still available at various outlets.

I do hope the Vulcan flies as we hope to get a glimpse from the next county :tu:

Yes, weeks ago thankfully :) Praying for good weather or at least a rain free day! Looking forward to seeing the F22's in action above all else.

Jon T
11-07-2008, 07:57
The Vulcan is taking off from Waddington on Saturday, flying straight into RIAT, displaying then landing. Sunday it will take off from RIAT, display and then depart for Farnborough.

So, no take off from RIAT on Saturday, and no landing on Sunday.

Angua
11-07-2008, 08:35
The Vulcan is taking off from Waddington on Saturday, flying straight into RIAT, displaying then landing. Sunday it will take off from RIAT, display and then depart for Farnborough.

So, no take off from RIAT on Saturday, and no landing on Sunday.
Any idea of approximate time please? https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/07/21.gif

Jon T
11-07-2008, 11:36
Any idea of approximate time please? https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/07/21.gif

latest update available is take off from Wadddington at 10:30am

Aragorn
11-07-2008, 22:24
Just browsing the RIAT site and it says Saturday has been cancelled due to the weather :shocked:
Linky (http://www.airtattoo.com/airtattoo/Newsroom/news/Newsroom/AIR_TATTOO_CANCELLED_SATURDAY)

Uncle Peter
11-07-2008, 22:49
Absolutely gutted :( everything was ready to go: camera bag packed, car checked for journey, butties sorted. There's always next year.

Angua
12-07-2008, 08:16
First time it has been cancelled in 38 years https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/07/20.gif

The will be checking the grounds at 4pm this afternoon before they decide on tomorrow.

LSainsbury
12-07-2008, 08:59
Saw it was cancelled on the BBC ticker last night....

We were planning to go at the start of the week but were keeping an eye on the weather and was going to get tickets on Friday (£13 each cheaper than on the day), but made the call on Thursday that we wern't going to go due to weather.

Did'nt want to be slogging around a muddy airfield whilst chucking down with rain - looks like we made a good call.

Angua said - they will be evaluating Sunday on Saturday - if it starts raining again I can see that being cancelled as well. More to the point though - how much can the car parks etc dry out today if there is no rain?

I expect Farnborough to be double busy next week!

Jon T
12-07-2008, 13:51
XH558 scheduled for take off from Waddington at 2:30pm, destination is stll Fairford.

---------- Post added at 13:51 ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 ----------

Anyone wondering why RIAT was cancelled today, have a look at this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjuY5w1b8Yo

Angua
12-07-2008, 15:18
Bit of a downpour this afternoon in Witney (20 miles away) but otherwise has been dry.

Jon T
12-07-2008, 18:03
XH558 scheduled for take off from Waddington at 2:30pm, destination is stll Fairford.

---------- Post added at 13:51 ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 ----------

Anyone wondering why RIAT was cancelled today, have a look at this: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yjuY5w1b8Yo

Don't think this applies anymore, at a guess any flight decision is going to have to wait till an announcment of if RIAT is cancelled tomorrow or not.

---------- Post added at 16:38 ---------- Previous post was at 15:47 ----------

Sunday RIAT cancelled as well.

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 16:38 ----------

She's now at Farnbourough, flew there about 4 o'clock

LSainsbury
12-07-2008, 19:41
Thanks Jon T...

Gutted for everyone that was going....

Raistlin
26-07-2008, 13:23
Taken yesterday - I know it's not great, but at least she's flying :)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/319/20080726097gw8.jpg

LSainsbury
26-07-2008, 17:19
Raistlin: Where was that taken then??

Raistlin
26-07-2008, 17:20
Raistlin: Where was that taken then??

She was kind enough to put in a special 'guest' appearance for us as she transitted between shows :)

LSainsbury
26-07-2008, 18:13
She was kind enough to put in a special 'guest' appearance for us as she transitted between shows :)

I see - LOL!

Tightscot
04-09-2008, 11:48
was pulled from Shoreham airshow last saturday due to 'undercarriage' problems - ooh err :D

But is apparently flying at the Goodwood Revival on September 19-21

Kymmy
12-09-2008, 10:27
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/edinburgh_and_east/7611088.stm

:(

LSainsbury
12-09-2008, 10:33
Time to start donating I think.

I'll throw them £20 sometime over the weekend - ok - not enough to get one engine roar into life for more than 10 seconds, but every little helps...

Graham M
12-09-2008, 10:34
It was supposed to be at the Bournemouth Air Festival but got grounded :(

punky
12-09-2008, 10:52
You'd think someone like Branson would happily step in and sponsor the aircraft. Not sure about the red tail though :p: It will be really disappointing if they get this far and then have to let the aircraft go to ruin again.

LSainsbury
12-09-2008, 11:08
You'd think someone like Branson would happily step in and sponsor the aircraft. Not sure about the red tail though :p: It will be really disappointing if they get this far and then have to let the aircraft go to ruin again.

I don't think I'd like to see it with Virgin Media plastered all over it!

Osem
12-09-2008, 11:23
Perhaps Mr Spock's fellow Vulcans should stump up some cash :D