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Boom
09-09-2003, 11:57
http://spong.com/index.asp?art=5490
Caspar
09-09-2003, 21:40
Originally posted by morris
is that good or bad?

Dunno - that's why no-one replied I guess! :)
downquark1
09-09-2003, 21:41
Victory for ATI.

Kronas, The gamecube has an ati card :p
ic14
09-09-2003, 21:43
Originally posted by downquark1
Victory for ATI.

Kronas, The gamecube has an ati card :p
ATi now own the console market, There making the chip for both M$s and Nintendos new consoles!

Cause this could mean somethin else.....;)
downquark1
09-09-2003, 21:45
Originally posted by ic14
ATi now own the console market, There making the chip for both M$s and Nintendos new consoles!

Cause this could mean somethin else.....;) :confused: :shrug:
Caspar
09-09-2003, 22:14
Originally posted by ic14
ATi now own the console market, There making the chip for both M$s and Nintendos new consoles!

Cause this could mean somethin else.....;)

They're not going to make the chips for XBOX2 ;)

Which prob means they ar eont for the Gamecube! :p

Now that's how you do business! (get someone else to do the work for you!)
ic14
09-09-2003, 22:25
Originally posted by Caspar
They're not going to make the chips for XBOX2 ;)

Which prob means they ar eont for the Gamecube! :p

Now that's how you do business! (get someone else to do the work for you!)

Eh?
Arcoding to that report it will be ati that powers the xbox2, and its being common knowledge that there working on the gc2s GPU!
Caspar
09-09-2003, 22:31
Originally posted by ic14
Eh?
Arcoding to that report it will be ati that powers the xbox2, and its being common knowledge that there working on the gc2s GPU!

Read my post again m8! ;)

All ATI are doing is selling MS licences to use their patents!...well ATI are getting another company to make the chips...etc..
ic14
09-09-2003, 22:32
Ah! I get ya!!
Kind of like with the GC its NEC that makes the chip, not ati, it just uses ATi/ARTx tech.
NEONKNIGHT
09-09-2003, 23:28
Originally posted by downquark1
Victory for ATI.

Kronas, The gamecube has an ati card :p

ATI vs nVidia - a flame war is about to begin :eek:

There all pretty much the same nowadays!!!:p ;)
Caspar
09-09-2003, 23:55
Originally posted by NEONKNIGHT
ATI vs nVidia - a flame war is about to begin :eek:



Not on this forum ;)
timewarrior2001
10-09-2003, 09:29
well I'm not a fan of ATI, and I doubt that thye can bring anything new that Nvidia couldnt have.
I think its a shame because Nvidia give out a lot more support to developers than ATI do.

I cant help but feel that this may cause problems for XB2.
downquark1
10-09-2003, 11:20
Originally posted by timewarrior2001
well I'm not a fan of ATI, and I doubt that thye can bring anything new that Nvidia couldnt have.
I think its a shame because Nvidia give out a lot more support to developers than ATI do.

I cant help but feel that this may cause problems for XB2. I'll have you know that the latest Nvidia drivers have caused major problems on many games and apparently the next ATI ones are going to be a leap forward.
NEONKNIGHT
10-09-2003, 12:30
Originally posted by downquark1
I'll have you know that the latest Nvidia drivers have caused major problems on many games and apparently the next ATI ones are going to be a leap forward.

........said the spokesperson for ATI. LOL :D
Doctor E
10-09-2003, 13:19
I gather it causes a problem though. It means that the new card might have to emulate the old one with software to get the older games to work and thus ensure backwards compatibility ... maybe.

Nige.
Caspar
10-09-2003, 13:53
Originally posted by Doctor E
I gather it causes a problem though. It means that the new card might have to emulate the old one with software to get the older games to work and thus ensure backwards compatibility ... maybe.

Nige.

Who cares about 'older' games! :p
downquark1
10-09-2003, 15:01
Originally posted by Doctor E
I gather it causes a problem though. It means that the new card might have to emulate the old one with software to get the older games to work and thus ensure backwards compatibility ... maybe.

Nige. PC's do it easy enough. And what is a an xbox but a pc with no floppy drive.
Boom
10-09-2003, 15:02
Who the h3ll still uses a floppy drive in a PC? :D

Originally posted by downquark1
PC's do it easy enough. And what is a an xbox but a pc with no floppy drive.
Caspar
10-09-2003, 15:06
Originally posted by Boom
Who the h3ll still uses a floppy drive in a PC? :D


sorry!...erm...what...??? What is a "floppy drive"? :p :)
zoombini
10-09-2003, 16:31
Originally posted by Caspar
Who cares about 'older' games! :p
How about the zillions of Xbox1 owners!

Who will likely sell off thier xbox1 to get an xbox2.

Being backward compatable is a MUST if MS want people to upgrade to them.
Boom
10-09-2003, 17:18
Must agree with that. Backwards compatibility is a must especially when the PS3 will have two-gen backwards compatibility.

Originally posted by zoombini
How about the zillions of Xbox1 owners!

Who will likely sell off thier xbox1 to get an xbox2.

Being backward compatable is a MUST if MS want people to upgrade to them.
DeKurver
10-09-2003, 23:41
I also agree that backwards compatibility, which may or may not be a problem depending on how games are written, will be a key requirement for the next X-Box. I don't personally have access to the XDK, but I'd imagine that the graphics programming is done against a variant of Direct3D 8.x, tweaked specifically for the nVidia chip's capabilities. In theory compatibility should be straightforward since it's essentially just Direct3D, however there could be some nVidia-specific tweaks that might not translate well to other chips. I'd like to think that both ATI and MS will make sure that original X-Box titles "work" on the next generation console.