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Hiya all, I have a few friends who use a chat room who have had something I don't understand happen to them.
I enclose a document from one of there chat sessions with this person. Who so I believe hacks a persons MSN, gets someone at other end to let them view there webcam, and asks questions then hacks them...and moves on like such.
Wondering if there is any way anyone knows to protect agaisnt this happening, apart from vetting every single personl on your msn list upon sign in?
did your friend actually get the virus?
ik
I don't think a hacker would ever say that they have hacked someone they are talking to, they like to be annonymous, threfore, msn can take this up in their message archives and block the IP address &or account of the person harrasing your friend.
I would tell your freind to send msn a copy and tell them when it happened, see if they will do anything about it.
ik
The kids next door had this problem. Someone eventually gleaned password information from her and changed her account details so that she couldn't log onto MSN. They then changed her information and stated she was pregnant and on drugs. That would be "funny" if the person concerned was over 12:mad:
It annoyes me when this happens it really does. But as you probably know one of the first things you do on MSN is invite people you know only into chat. You never ever give out personal details to those you don't know, however innocent the information required might be. So as you said the way to stop this happening is to vet people you don't want to talk to.
The upshot was we contacted MSN abuse who at the time were next to useless and asked them to check and block whoever was using this childs account. It took a while but they did take action and we were able to find out who had invaded her account.
I would advice your friend to look at the MSN abuse pages and contact them directly with the log ONLY to start with. they wil then get in contact with you to ask for ip address and other information. Its a long process but worth doing.
SeTi^
Thanks everyone I shall post this onto my friend. I only have limited knowledge of what happend, all I know is 4accounts have gone each related to the first which was hacked.
Sadly now with my MSN which I have just made everyone is vetted before I even speak to them as I have enough people hacking mine...
paulyoung666
12-12-2004, 14:21
some sick puppies out there :mad: :mad: :mad:
it is considering both people in question are ones I know very well, and who are good people who help keep a chatroom clean for familys and children.
Shame that people have nothing better to do other then cause trouble, makes my skin crawl. :mad:
Wondering if there is any way anyone knows to protect agaisnt this happening, apart from vetting every single personl on your msn list upon sign in?First of all that looks like a wind up, nothing more.
Secondly, you should not have to "vet" everyone on your msn list since you should have known who they were when you added them.
I hear ya Paul but I personally know these people ( one who has just registered here or is in process off ) and they genuinly have lost there accounts.
I am not up on every detail was just stating what i know for some nice advice which I have had thanks all :D
In meantime she will hopefully post in more detail what happened.
Thanks all for speedly and nice replies :D
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If I needed help for my msn thing I would only allow people I know and trust to know such things, but once it is fixed, immediately change everything from password to secret question.
But if I got an msn prob, I just don't use or get rid of it...I hate msn.
but I think it is just a hoax, if I were a hacker I certainly would not tell anyone, and I would not ask for anything.
I have cracked my mates hotmail account, cause he had an easy secret question, but it was my mate and I suggested he change his secret question, he knew I was doing it, cause I was chatting to him at the time.
ik
Aye I know its just that not every user is up on the NET, the amount of people I know who have been online with no firewall apart from SP1 Firewall and no anti virus or anti spyware software.
I think there should be a mandatory test before you could buy a pc to make sure you know basics, as some people leave vitial private information on there finances etc on there pc and don't bother setting the pc up to protect the information. :dozey:
some sick puppies out there :mad: :mad: :mad:
I had some MSN hacking problems myself!
I hinted to paul where they were coming from at the time. ;)
Anywhere in particular??
I notice though with my MSN and its worrying me now, everytime I click e-mail when I get one it ALWAYS, takes me to a login page to enter my password, I am using a new .co.uk address, and not many know it, and I have it on auto sign in because I am sole user of this laptop.
Anywhere in particular??
I notice though with my MSN and its worrying me now, everytime I click e-mail when I get one it ALWAYS, takes me to a login page to enter my password, I am using a new .co.uk address, and not many know it, and I have it on auto sign in because I am sole user of this laptop.
I could never actually prove it, but there was a strange chain of events leading upto my problem. I suddenly found a number of people wanted to chat with me!
I just refused most of them, and I probably did that to some genuine people unfortunately. The one incident was very bizzare, involving a woman? who chatted to me, and then the second time with the same handle it was apparently a guy who claimed to be her husband! I had a file installed in my start-up folder after that incident. I copied the file to a floppy, and found that if you clicked on the application it would install itself to the start-up folder again. I took it into work for some of the software guys to play around with, one of them collects viruses and he said it was just some amateurish stuff and not to worry about it too much.
The file had a name like one of the popular viruses but the virus checkers didn't recognise it.
The more I read into this the more I am tempted to uninstall MSN Messenger and move onto a better system....
ceejaydee
12-12-2004, 17:51
Hi all I am the "friend" AndrewJames has been on about I'm the one who got hacked and im the person whos conversation piece got posted here lol , Now is my time to add my own little tale.
I have not recieved a virus , or any porn with the email account, i have reported it to MSN and am still waiting to hear from them as to if i can get my account back or not, tho the friend whos account was used i had earlier on been having a conversation with, and not long after was hacked herself, i had been in the belief i was talking with her as i had not added any new contacts.
I have been very vigilent of my msn contacts since i was hacked via a trojan sent back door, last year. The "hacker" had been priming me with questions which was to find the answer for my security question, wasnt until i blocked this contact that i knew they had taken control of my account as my msn then signed out on its own and a little icon came up saying i was signed in on a different location, friends then told me my display name had then changed to something im not even gonna repeat :Yikes: . Another friend of mine was able to trace their IP and it was an american one, ( this to date is all i know ) my friend whom i thought was in conversation with at the time has now got her account back with contacts in tact ( thank the lord ).
paulyoung666
12-12-2004, 17:54
Hi all I am the "friend" AndrewJames has been on about I'm the one who got hacked and im the person whos conversation piece got posted here lol , Now is my time to add my own little tale.
I have not recieved a virus , or any porn with the email account, i have reported it to MSN and am still waiting to hear from them as to if i can get my account back or not, tho the friend whos account was used i had earlier on been having a conversation with, and not long after was hacked herself, i had been in the belief i was talking with her as i had not added any new contacts.
I have been very vigilent of my msn contacts since i was hacked via a trojan sent back door, last year. The "hacker" had been priming me with questions which was to find the answer for my security question, wasnt until i blocked this contact that i knew they had taken control of my account as my msn then signed out on its own and a little icon came up saying i was signed in on a different location, friends then told me my display name had then changed to something im not even gonna repeat :Yikes: . Another friend of mine was able to trace their IP and it was an american one, ( this to date is all i know ) my friend whom i thought was in conversation with at the time has now got her account back with contacts in tact ( thank the lord ).
hi and :welcome: to the site , good to hear you got sorted out in the end , got to be super careful by the sounds of it :disturbd:
ceejaydee
12-12-2004, 17:59
yeah but u trust those uve been chatting with ( about a year ) and collegues with on a chatroom as moderator/helper of new chatters , its just the eejits that do this that sicken me cos they obviously get some weird kick from it, esp as it was so amature and low hack to do :mad: :(
Anywhere in particular??
I notice though with my MSN and its worrying me now, everytime I click e-mail when I get one it ALWAYS, takes me to a login page to enter my password, I am using a new .co.uk address, and not many know it, and I have it on auto sign in because I am sole user of this laptop.
I still get this, I think it is more of a problem with MSN, just don't add it again and go back, you are still logged in, and try another link into your mail via, the MY MSN, this works for me without putting in another password.
ceejaydee: Now I can understand how it happened, thte hacker was asking question about your secret question, then maybe this might help people arrange a more secret question like what is your ex girl/boyfriends middle name, cause no one should ever ask a question like that and if they do then alarm bells should be ringing in your head.
I hope that you got everything sorted.
ik
ceejaydee
12-12-2004, 21:39
IK
i'm hoping i have too, still waiting to hear back from msn as to whether or not i get my account back, but im kinda ok with the one i have as ive already got back the non "chat" friends that i had on there , and the chat ones are easy enough to get back too but its just so damn infuriating
yeah I know, but because of this you will probably be more weary of it now.
good luck
ik
greencreeper
12-12-2004, 23:03
Cyber-space is a great enabler - sadly, it enables the nutters as well. A friend had his account hacked - I ended up talking to some weirdo who asked questions about my dress and where I lived. I knew it wasn't him and didn't reveal any personal information. I texted him and he doesn't have Internet access at the moment. I guess it was a cyber cafe that compromised him - always change the login email address when you're done.
Personally myself I set a secret question but instead of the name or dob to be entered, I always put a random code with letters numbers, makes them asking for secret question stuff a little harder ;)
Personally myself I set a secret question but instead of the name or dob to be entered, I always put a random code with letters numbers, makes them asking for secret question stuff a little harder ;)
Should be watertight- write it down on some paper rather than storing it on your PC just to be on the safe side.
The only way in is via guessing password or secret answer- and if you make that as hard as possible then it's better- also avoid signing in on PCs other than your own!
As I pointed out when it appeared a couple of months back, MSN recently added a secondary email detail but that's only being used to send reset instructions if you can't remember secret answer. Which I feel is the wrong way round, reset instructions should be sent to the secondary email instead of the secret question route (which necessitates hacking two accounts, if one's more secure - I have a couple that SMS reset instructions - then it's an awful lot harder). MSN being muppet-esque obviously didn't realise. I thought about emailing them but the muppets probably wouldn't get the message anyway. :rolleyes:
I have also noticed now because certain threads I am signed to get email asap someome replies, and i have noticed it often now asks for me to enter my password, can only assume this is another security thing, to stop people who leave room, having other accessing there email box.
P.s using msn 7 Beta with msn plus 3.4beta for it and some patches and plug ins works nice but would like some more notification and a little option to remove all the fancy visual stuff.
I like runnnig things in basic form and no frills, why waste ram and cpu just to make desktop look good, ( unless you want it to be impressive perhaps )
fatboymike
03-04-2005, 23:23
Erm i was ust wondering is it illegal to get sumthing to boot people out of group convos, and if it isnt where can i find it?
Erm i was ust wondering is it illegal to get sumthing to boot people out of group convos, and if it isnt where can i find it?
Don't know on either count but couldn't you just set up a new group convo and use that?
welshwiz27
09-05-2005, 19:23
Hi everyone i think msn hacking is great I have hacked 15 people before and I'm now on my 16th:monkey: .I can't wait till my next victim I have decided it's going to be my best friend and I chose him because he won't suspect a thing.
Hi everyone i think msn hacking is great I have hacked 15 people before and I'm now on my 16th:monkey: .I can't wait till my next victim I have decided it's going to be my best friend and I chose him because he won't suspect a thing.
Is that because you are a L33T H4X0R or because you're an idiot? How is hacking your friends account clever or a good idea?
Raistlin
09-05-2005, 19:30
Anybody else hear the clippety clop of trotters crossing the bridge that this idiot is sat under?
Or the sound of the boot hitting his ar*e as he gets ejected from the forum:)
welshwiz27
09-05-2005, 19:32
Don't worry everyone I was only joking I have never hack a soul and I hate the idea of it.Recently my msn has stopped working and my friend said it had been hacked.I then found out that he had hacked me.We are no longer friends although he thinks stopping going on my account is going to make everything better.:dozey: .
Maybe he just fancied a stroll to recharge his L33T skills ;)
welshwiz27
09-05-2005, 19:54
Seriously I was only joking.
Two words.
GROW UP.
For the mods to put a nice permenant avatar on this guy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v509/ugreporter2004/explicitstupid.jpg
MadGamer
09-05-2005, 19:57
Seriously I was only joking. You see i/we dont think you were, this type of thing isnt funny at all, and it could also land you in serious trouble and not just with the team.
Raistlin
09-05-2005, 19:57
Oops.....
Looks like someone got off to the wrong start.
In case you hadn't noticed this can be a pretty rough party (especially with a first post like yours) - all I can say is :welcome: and that I hope you enjoy your stay.
Seriously I was only joking.
Not a good way to start off your residence on a forum ;) Hacking, illegal use of equipment and jokes about the hairstyles modelled by certain members of the forum and team are very good shortcuts to getting into trouble :D
Raistlin
09-05-2005, 20:00
<Snip> jokes about the hairstyles modelled by certain members of the forum and team <Snip> :D
Anyone we know Paul? ;)
MadGamer
09-05-2005, 20:00
Seriously I was only joking.
Not a good way to start off your residence on a forum ;) Hacking, illegal use of equipment and jokes about the hairstyles modelled by certain members of the forum and team are very good shortcuts to getting into trouble :D At least someone read my post and agreed along the same lines then. Nice One. :tu:
<Snip> jokes about the hairstyles modelled by certain members of the forum and team <Snip> :D
Anyone we know Paul? ;)
Dunno what you mean mate :angel: I trusst you wouldn't want me to name names would you ;)
welshwiz27
09-05-2005, 20:02
I'm sorry guys but I actually don't know what this if anyone could tell me I would be grateful.
its a forum where you post text for other people to read you are in the security thread and virus discussion area.
Simple isnt it.
Chimaera
09-05-2005, 20:03
Erm - at a guess - how about coming on a forum and making your first post one about hacking? :shrug:
I could be wrong, though! :rolleyes:
Seriously I was only joking.
Not a good way to start off your residence on a forum ;) Hacking, illegal use of equipment and jokes about the hairstyles modelled by certain members of the forum and team are very good shortcuts to getting into trouble :D At least someone read my post and agreed along the same lines then. Nice One. :tu:
Was typing when you posted so didn't see your reply till afterwards but it looks like it's group hugs time for our new resident trollwannabe now that he has apologised for a certain lack of thought prior to posting.... not that any of us suffer that :p:
Raistlin
09-05-2005, 20:07
I'm sorry guys but I actually don't know what this if anyone could tell me I would be grateful.
The problem is that a first post being about hacking etc is gaurenteed to get you the wrong sort of attention (especially in a forum like this).
Now that you've said you were only joking (and you've had a pretty hard ride to boot) hopefully we can all move past this.
Sit back, kick off your shoes, relax, and enjoy your stay at Cable Forum.
If you have a read through some of the recent threads you'll get a good idea of the pace here, as well as getting a better idea of what is and what isn't going to get you a right slating.
I sincerely hope you stick around, there's a lot of good people on here, who are only too eager to help - it's just a bit of a minefield first. If you can contribute and help some people out then so much the better.
The best thing to remember is:
It's better to stay silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Stick around, read through a few threads, get to know some people, and I'm sure you'll do just fine :tu:
welshwiz27
09-05-2005, 20:10
Thanks Raistlin.
Raistlin
09-05-2005, 20:10
NP, you're welcome :tu:
Hi welshwiz,
Would it be possible for you to type in the default 'text' format like everyone else is using. Thanks.
Hacking MSN is hardly a joke though, really.
FAO WelshWiz27: Do you find being a tw*t comes naturally, or do you have to practise?
Okay I think that's enough - time this topic was closed.
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