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Theodoric
10-04-2004, 19:15
I've got 2 email accounts, an ntl one and a Yahoo one, whilst my wife has a Hotmail account. A few months ago Hotmail was a, well, hotbed, of spam but they seem to have got their act together and it is now a spam-free zone. I have never have had any problems with Yahoo. However, my ntl account is getting worse and worse as far as spam is concerned, the sort of spam that Hotmail seem to have had no problems blocking. So, why is ntl so bad? Is it simply that looking after your customers costs money and ntl don't wish to spend any on such frivolous activities?
MovedGoalPosts
10-04-2004, 19:17
Simple. Ntl don't spend money on anti spam systems.
ian@huth
11-04-2004, 01:00
I have noticed a huge increase in spam on my NTL accounts over the past week or two, particularly on the primary account.
I used to have a Freeserve account and five NTL accounts that I used but got rid of the Freeserve account as it was getting an amazing amount of spam. I use Mailwasher and after losing the Freeserve account was virtually getting no spam at all and then wham, spam by the bucketful. It isn't as if I have given out any of my email addresses, posted any of them or used them to sign up for anything.
Charlie_Bubble
11-04-2004, 01:52
They're worse because they don't do it at all! :D
They're worse because they don't do it at all! :D
Which is just the way I like it. :D
gooner4life
11-04-2004, 09:57
I dont want my ISP blocking spam that means they are scanning all emails sent to me, what if they block something thats important?
no thanks id rather delete the spam as and when i get it which isnt very often anyway because i dont register for anything with my email address.
Spam blocking is as good as the blacklist list - IP blacklisting is VERY, VERY effective if done well - the dnsbl at cbl.abuseat.org has covered 99.9% of the hosts being used - EVERY time it's an open server on a cable system - the real answer is THEIR ISP's need to get tough!
what annoyes me :mad: is that i get several mails with exactly the same text from different spammers. Surely we can forward these onto NTL somewhere and get them to block future mails with these texts.
I may start sending all my spam onto ntl somewhere, maybe we should all do this then they might start to take notice of the problem
The spam on ntl is getting worse. Beyond a joke. I am now using another email address as I am totally fed up with the amount of spam I am getting to my ntl address each day. It now averages about 18 per day. Thankfully my email address is re-directable to any isp email address, so I can change when I want without having the problem of informing everyong of a change of email address.Very soon I hope I won't have to worry, as I shall be leaving ntl to return to BT and become a customer of Sky.:td:
threadbare
13-04-2004, 11:24
Simple. Ntl don't spend money on anti spam systems.
They're worse because they don't do it at all! :D
yes they do and have done since christmas!
yes they do and have done since christmas!
Then why are people still having problems over 3 months later?
i've not heard of anything about ntl getting anti-spam software over xmas.. when this has been discused before no one has every mentioned ntl having anti-spam either..i can't believe NTL would spent any money on this until they are forced into action.. seems to be the usual NTL way..
if they have it doesn't work anyway !
i rekon we should just forward all the spam we get onto the ntl tech team or somewhere so they are forced into looking into the problem.
yes they do and have done since christmas!
Would you like to explain that - I have not noticed any reduction in the SPAM my NTL e-mail gets, nor have I seen any announcements about anti-spam.
Florence
13-04-2004, 14:27
Only checked two out of 4 accounts that are NTLs one had 40 emails not a single one was for me or requested teh other the primary account for the SACM had 75 split between viagra, enlargements and porn none requested or for us.
Its a shambles if I could delete the primary email addy I would its the worst addy I have ever had from NTL
Well Im pretty miffed about the amount of viruses incoming through mail but im not complaining really, Spam tbh Im honestly not getting much to it - I have a anti spam system in place but its not filtering anything but the odd korean ad I get through my mail (I signed up to a list) and sometimes they send a few extras but thats about it...
My computer is sending on average 12 mails a day on reports of virus infected messages to users who send to me:
경고 -V3Pro 2004년Deluxe은 붙인 파일안에 뒤에 오는 바이러스를 검출했다. 2004년 (검사 시간18:59:074월12일) (상태) 파일 이름 - 바이러스 이름 우편물 제목: 재: 나쁜 요구details.pif-Win32/Netsky.worm.29568(치료할 수 있는 (위로 청소하기 위하여 기입을 변경하십시요))details.pif- (구획 파일: 삭제하는)
If I could translate it to english for sending then I would... but basically it lets the user know that they have sent a virus to my system and either HTTP/POP3/SMTP/FTP filtering has picked it up, it says that the details.pif was blocked and deleted and the worm Netsky is curable by cleaning up the registry.
Any user suffering from spam should invest in anti-spam software... it helps alot :)
yes they do and have done since christmas!
That makes it very interesting then, because it has steadily got worse since.... guess when? --- Christmas !!!!!
:D
Stuartbe
13-04-2004, 15:47
Perhaps they installed the spam filters backwards ? :D
threadbare
13-04-2004, 16:09
well my spam dropped markedly when the spam filters were introduced. from around 20-30 a day to zip. i have a had a couple a day of the last week or so.
every time a spam thread has popped up i have mentioned this yet some claim no one has mentioned anything on these forums. ntl use the spamhaus filtering list.
Well I'm still receiving up to 60 a day on my main NTL account :(
Perhaps they installed the spam filters backwards ? :D
You mean the 'MAPS' filters!? :pp
60 a day, is that all, i get at least 340 e-mails a day and about 10 are for me.
i have been trying mailwasher but i still get the same amount :mad:
Out of interest-I got this today for my Virgin account;
Hello,
We're upgrading our email service and, as part of a range of improvements, you'll automatically receive the latest anti-virus protection and email anti-spam on your Virgin.net email account. This will significantly reduce the amount of junk emails you receive, as we'll remove the spam emails before they reach your Virgin.net email inbox.
The_real_dj
15-04-2004, 20:01
Im the admin email admin at work and sometimes to check our systems i send virus's out to my ntl webmail account so i can try and get them back into the system.
I have just sent 2 copies of the Netsky-p virus to my ntl account and they have not arrived?? send a few tests and they have all got here???:erm: :erm: :erm:
Seems a bit strange to me??? Are NTL virus checking our mails??
Im the admin email admin at work and sometimes to check our systems i send virus's out to my ntl webmail account so i can try and get them back into the system.
I have just sent 2 copies of the Netsky-p virus to my ntl account and they have not arrived?? send a few tests and they have all got here???:erm: :erm: :erm:
Seems a bit strange to me??? Are NTL virus checking our mails??
they are scanning for some viruses, hence the reason that some people are getting the "error 550-554 mutant bagle..." message if they are infected and trying to send email. I am not exactly sure if they are filtering netsky, but there is definately something in place.
they are scanning for some viruses, hence the reason that some people are getting the "error 550-554 mutant bagle..." message if they are infected and trying to send email. I am not exactly sure if they are filtering netsky, but there is definately something in place.
MB-How lame is it when a company doesn't even tell it's employees what positive steps it is taking regarding spam etc? :rolleyes:
MB-How lame is it when a company doesn't even tell it's employees what positive steps it is taking regarding spam etc? :rolleyes:
:LOL: they do give us some information... what fun would it be if they made our jobs easy?! :pp
Florence
15-04-2004, 20:58
They are not filtering spam nor are they activly virus checking. I have had another three through today that had viruses on. also one account that only has one email a month for us had a total 92 emails this morning all porn, enlargements,cigs, get rich quick schemes and slimming....
They are not filtering spam nor are they activly virus checking. I have had another three through today that had viruses on. also one account that only has one email a month for us had a total 92 emails this morning all porn, enlargements,cigs, get rich quick schemes and slimming....
yes they are... otherwise people wouldn't be getting the message shown in this (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=10713) thread. They may only be scanning outgoing messages at the moment, but the anti spam legislation brought in in december requires all ISP to take some kind of action.
If any user sends more than 50 (or it might be 100 i can't remember) individual messages in an hour, action will be taken against them.
For news on proper spam/ av filtering at server level, all i can say is... watch this space... ;)
Florence
15-04-2004, 21:24
I never send out emails through NTL and the spam I want stopping is all those that keep arriving I am supposed to stay inside 1 goig a day yet all those unwanted emails use up my some of my cap
Mac-the-T
15-04-2004, 23:36
I find that Mailwasher doesn't deter repeat offenders, in most cases. I found the only way to shake off these gits is to leave all of your spam on the server. It seems that if it appears that there has been no activity in your email account for a couple of weeks then they decide its a dead account and go away, for a while at least.
I use a program like Poptray to preview my messages on the server. Any I need to open properly in OE I forward to another email account.
yes they are... otherwise people wouldn't be getting the message shown in this (http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=10713) thread. They may only be scanning outgoing messages at the moment, but the anti spam legislation brought in in december requires all ISP to take some kind of action.
If any user sends more than 50 (or it might be 100 i can't remember) individual messages in an hour, action will be taken against them.
For news on proper spam/ av filtering at server level, all i can say is... watch this space... ;)
Errr hang on a moment - i use a program to send my CV to a list of Agentcys every now and then - this rattles off 1500-2000 (roughly) - so your saying now im actually breaking the law or what? Not sure how long it takes as each mail have my cv attached but what i am / was doing is not spamming from my point of view - its updating my CV like.
I could put my CV online and mail them were to get it - but again will send out too many and break them rules as you quoted - so am i supposed to do one at a time???
Errr hang on a moment - i use a program to send my CV to a list of Agentcys every now and then - this rattles off 1500-2000 (roughly) - so your saying now im actually breaking the law or what? Not sure how long it takes as each mail have my cv attached but what i am / was doing is not spamming from my point of view - its updating my CV like.
I could put my CV online and mail them were to get it - but again will send out too many and break them rules as you quoted - so am i supposed to do one at a time???
no, sending mails like this is not SPAM so it is not breaking the law, however from what i have read the easiest way for isps to prevent people spamming on their connections is to monitor the number of mails people are sending per hour.
What you are doing may well have flagged up something somewhere, but if you haven't heard anything yet then obviously your isp either hasn't noticed you are doing it, or has noticed and hasn't taken any action against it.
how come you send your cv to so many people anyway?! 2000 is a lot!!
FYI- This is Article 13 of "Directive 2002/58/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 12 July 2002 concerning the processing of personal data and the protection of privacy in the electronic communications sector (Directive on privacy and electronic communications)." ... in other words the European legislation that required the UK to implement an antispam law.
Article 13
Unsolicited communications
1. The use of automated calling systems without human intervention (automatic calling machines), facsimile machines (fax) or electronic mail for the purposes of direct marketing may only be allowed in respect of subscribers who have given their prior consent.
2. Notwithstanding paragraph 1, where a natural or legal person obtains from its customers their electronic contact details for electronic mail, in the context of the sale of a product or service, in accordance with Directive 95/46/EC, the same natural or legal person may use these electronic contact details for direct marketing of its own similar products or services provided that customers clearly and distinctly are given the opportunity to object, free of charge and in an easy manner, to such use of electronic contact details when they are collected and on the occasion of each message in the case the customer has not intially refused such use.
3. Member States shall take appropriate measures to ensure that, free of charge, unsolicited communications for purposes of direct marketing, in cases other than those referred to in paragraphs 1 and 2, are not allowed either without the consent of the subscribers concerned or in respect of subscribers who do not wish to receive these communications, the choice between these options to be determined by national legislation.
4. In any event, the practice of sending electronic mail for purposes of direct marketing diguising or concealing the identity of the sender on whose behalf the communication is made, or without a vaild address to which the recipient may send a request that such communications cease, shall be prohibited.
5. Paragraphs 1 and 3 shall apply to subscribers who are natural persons. Member States shall also ensure, in the framework of Community law and applicable national legislation, that the legitimate interests of subscribers other than natural persons with regard to unsolicited communications are sufficently protected.
The law about spam is something that i am going to learn a lot more about, because i am doing my dissitation (sp!) on it next year. So if you thought reading the legislation there was horrible... feel sorry for me :pp
no, sending mails like this is not SPAM so it is not breaking the law, however from what i have read the easiest way for isps to prevent people spamming on their connections is to monitor the number of mails people are sending per hour.
What you are doing may well have flagged up something somewhere, but if you haven't heard anything yet then obviously your isp either hasn't noticed you are doing it, or has noticed and hasn't taken any action against it.
how come you send your cv to so many people anyway?! 2000 is a lot!!
Well in the computer Constractor Market there is on average about 1500-2000 Agenties out there - now the only time i need to update my cv with them all is when the cv has changed - contracting on the whole is short term and for example might have a job for 2-3 months then out of work again. If I update my CV wit them all - then they have the latest CV for sending out, more lightly to get looked at rather than them having a very old CV.
The program has a DB Companies along with Email etc - now i send out - one message at a time with my situation (location, money required etc) along with a attached CV. Now this is better than a EMail (as in one) with a header that has everybody else Name on it as well.
I have tried many ways to get them to maybe stop me this work and go to a web site and get the latest one but that was asking way too much to be honest as they wont activly go to a web site, grab my cv and update there records - only time it happens is if i send them a email and this prompts them to update....
Can anyone help - Am having a Problem with Norton Anti Spam...
I get about 300 Messages a day on my ntl account (had the account for years) norton is fantastic until it freeses and seems make the account timeout in Outlook Express. It happens on random e-mails and the only way to fix it is disable Norton Anti Spam!
Chrysalis
20-04-2004, 17:21
I get no spam probably because the account is unuseable.
If any user sends more than 50 (or it might be 100 i can't remember) individual messages in an hour, action will be taken against them.
Excuse me ?? What action exactly, seeing as I may well do this from time to time.
Excuse me ?? What action exactly, seeing as I may well do this from time to time.
dunno to be honest... i have never spoken to anyone who has had it happen to them, but we were told at work that 'action' will be taken.... :confused:
Oh, that's ok then - the NTL definition of "action" is usually nothing. ;)
The "more than 50 emails" thing has been misquoted .
If someone tries to send emails to more than 50 *non-existent* addresses in an alloted time, they are dropped by a spam harvester. This combats dictionary attack spammers.
cheers.
I was away for a week and when I got back I had 1350 spam e-mails waiting for me.
I got Mailwasher to bounce the lot of them. That's more than 50 per hour so how do I stand on that?
I don't bother checking my NTL account now.
I'm so fed up that I've signed up for a Bulldog 2Mb service. Just waiting for it to be installed then I can ditch NTL completely.
Upgraded antivirus - Has antispam with it, not that norton crap either :)
When I had ntl installed I kept my Freeserve e-mail account.
Since 9 April all mail coming through that account has had *** SPAM *** prefixed to the subject title. It was only today that wanadoo (formally Freeserve) sent me an e-mail proclaiming that they are now automatically filtering our e-mails for spam.
Unfortunately, the filter cannot be turned off. You can only decide whether to allow the "spam" to be downloaded to your inbox with the *** SPAM *** prefix, or set it to automatically delete them.
The trouble is, the e-mails I received were legitimate. They were from 192.com, Maplin electronics & DREAMdirect. Ironically, in over 3 years of being with Freeserve, I haven't received 1 spam e-mail anyway.
I dont know what criteria Freeserve use to filter the e-mails, but I hope ntl dont use the same method.
So what are the top 3 tips for preventing spam anyway?
And assuming that prevention has failed, what is the best ways of filtering do you think?
So what are the top 3 tips for preventing spam anyway?
And assuming that prevention has failed, what is the best ways of filtering do you think?
The best way to do it is using spam filtering software. Which product you use is down to personal preference. Many people recommend Mailwasher, but personally i use Mozilla Thunderbird which has junk mail filters integrated. I have found this to be quite good, a lot more reliable than the ones in Outlook.
Prevention is always better than cure though, and there is lots of advise on here about how to prevent spam.
Seen the same thing on my old freeserve account - their targeting is RUBBISH - they seem to be going soley on spam-like content (ad/mail lists that ARE legit also get tagged), rather than on the usually unsound source address of most real spam.
Bouncing? DON'T DO IT - the email address is 99% forged, faked, and often the address of some poor sod who then gets a mailbox full of bounces - DON'T DO IT.
At best, bouncing email has little or no effect, and at worst, it causes a problem for somebody else who has nothing to do with it.
To avoid spam:
1. Never let your email address be visible in machine-readable form
http://www.clariondeveloper.com/webcloak/index.htm - see this for one way of doing it - though I'm not sure if character encoding is good enough, fragmenting the address in javascript certainly is.
2. Do not use an easily dictionary attackable address - anything 6 characters or less at a popular host is probably already covered.
Use disposable addresses such as spamgourmet if you have to give an address to someone/something you don't trust to respect it.
www.spampal.org (http://www.spampal.org)
- A fine filter- with basic DNSBL capability, and plugins for regex rule filtering, bayesian and other tactics - you can also use a really harsh DNSBL if you hate spam more than the risk of tagging "innocent" mail.
threadbare
29-04-2004, 16:43
The rule is greater than 50 individual messages in an hour period. the abuse dept will put a block on any user who exceeds this limit 3 times. These users will then be contacted.
Providing all is legit and ppl genuinely need to send that volume of mail, they can add the IP address to the White list which will have no restrictions.
These users can then send their mails without being flagged up and blocked
gazbiggs
29-04-2004, 19:59
Hi all,
Theres one easy way to start cutting the amount of spam down and thats stopping using MS Outlook or MS Outlook Express.
Use something like Mozilla Thunderbird instead!
The problem with Outlook is that you cannot stop viewing mail as html whereas you can set thunderbird to view mail as Pain Text only.
Viewing mail as html can cause all sorts of problems, such as running scripts etc but the main problem, I discovered the other day.
Say, I guess at an email address: someone@adomain.com and send an html email containing, say:
<img src="http://mywebserver/images/piccy.gif?name=someone@adomain.com>
Now if this email address is vaild and that person reads the email as html then a request will come into my server: mywebserver
If my Web server is configured that .gif.s are in in fact as php scripts (that is, they are NOT images) then the parameter name=someone@adomain.com will be passed.
I can process the name parameter and stick it in a database of valid email addresses since the only way the Web server will have got the request in the first place is if someone@adomain.com was reading the email.
So, since you cannot get rid of html in Outlook, I would suggest getting rid!!!
gazbiggs
I have my firewall set to block http access for Outlook Express - so that web-bug trackers in my email are neutered.
It's a bit messy for mail that does have external images, but I could let through the sites that are useful.
I really ought to switch to something else though, Thunderbird, Pegasus, old CoverCD Eudora ... I will not PAY for an email program, and I sure as hell won't put that Incredimail garbage on my machine (adware and unreliable - I'd sooner run a completely unprotected Outlook Express!).
Thought this was quite good fron AOL.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3581435.stm
Hi all,
Theres one easy way to start cutting the amount of spam down and thats stopping using MS Outlook or MS Outlook Express.
Use something like Mozilla Thunderbird instead!
The problem with Outlook is that you cannot stop viewing mail as html whereas you can set thunderbird to view mail as Pain Text only...
Dont know about Outlook, but Outlook Express has an option to read as plain text.
gazbiggs
30-04-2004, 18:40
Dont know about Outlook, but Outlook Express has an option to read as plain text.
If it does then I would recommend turning html off
I know I spent ages trying to find out how to turn html off in Outlook so it may be worthwhile telling others how to do it in Express
gazbiggs
If it does then I would recommend turning html off
I know I spent ages trying to find out how to turn html off in Outlook so it may be worthwhile telling others how to do it in Express
gazbiggsUnder 'Tools' -> 'options' -> 'read', there is a box you can tick labled 'Read all messages in plain text'.
winterbrew
02-05-2004, 09:21
Under XP SP2, there is an option in Outlook Express ;
'block images and other external content in HTML e-mail'
Seems to work OK
Jon
I'm a bit worried because i'm getting up to 2000 junk emails a week now - it would be difficult for me to change my emails addresses because i need them for my job - i use an incredibly good anti-spam filtering system called spambayes which is free - it gets rid of roughly 95/97 percent of them but they still have to come to my inbox - if the amount of spam continues to go up in the same way as it has over the last two years, my cable connection will be fully utilised just receiving junk! how much junk will ntl tolerate? at what point will they cut off my email account because i'm receiving too much email?
:(
winterbrew
03-05-2004, 11:42
I recently went away for a weeks holiday and had 800 spams when I got back.
I use SpamPal which sorts most of it out nicely. Would be nice to have some NTL filtering in addition.
Jon
beastman
03-05-2004, 17:06
I read some time ago NTL are outsourcing their email to another company and this will have an inbuilt spam filter. I am getting about 100 spams a day and its getting ridic.
Anyone know anymore about this and when it might happen?
threadbare
03-05-2004, 23:54
ntl are moving their mail platform to a more advanced platform called openwave. the migration should take place in june. it is not being outsourced as such just different technology which includes both spam and virus filtering (@ winterbrew which they do now). the new technology should improve ntl's handling of spam and virii which will also reduce the load on the mail servers.
beastman
07-05-2004, 06:36
thanks threadbare for the reply on that - will there be a further annoucement
that the transition has been completed?
Toreador
17-05-2004, 12:52
Have NTL really been filtering emails since Christmas? Because that's just about the time that I'd date a huge increase in the number of spam/virus emails I get. I use mailwasher so it's not a massive problem - however, whenever I'm away for more than a few days, I receive so much junk mail that I can guarantee my account will be blocked before I return as I've gone over my allowable mailbox size.
The main culprit is the 'MS Security' virus, don't know its proper name but each one has a 100K+ attachment. I can't understand why NTL won't do anything to block these, the technology is there (even Hotmail manages it) and it must cost NTL a lot of money to store these even temporarily, plus bandwidth to download them, etc.
If NTL are moving to a new platform next month then I'll maybe give them another few weeks on top of that before I've had enough and ditch them for a company that cares.
Hi all,
...
The problem with Outlook is that you cannot stop viewing mail as html whereas you can set thunderbird to view mail as Pain Text only.
...
So, since you cannot get rid of html in Outlook, I would suggest getting rid!!!
gazbiggs
Outlook 2002 (XP) SP-1 can be patched using the registry see
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=307594
This used to work for me -
Outlook 2003 has an option under mail setup to read all mail as plaintext.
which also seems to work fine
not sure about the 2000 version or earlier, but ISTR I managed it!
greencreeper
17-05-2004, 13:26
I use a combination of Spampal (particularly the excellent regex filter), The Bat (far safer and more feature rich than Outlook or Outlook Express) and Zone Alarm Pro (blocks unsafe attachments and prevents mass emailing). I've no problems. I do get loads of spam but most of it (approx 98%) is flagged and moved to a common spam folder (i.e. all spam sent to all my accounts is shifted to one folder, and deleted from the server so my inboxes don't become full).
I have an account "mapspart@ntlworld.com" that I give out on newsgroups and other dodgy places. Emails sent to this address are given 200 points by Spampal.
It never ceases to amaze me that despite people knowing how bad NTL is at providing services (including customer services), they still want NTL to filter out spam :disturbd: You really think NTL will manage to do it effectively? You really think you won't lose important emails? How will you know if you've lost an email if the sender doesn't phone/write to say emails are being bounced (assuming they are bounced and don't just "vanish")?? You scream for spam protection because you can't/won't implement your own, and when NTL provide spam protection you'll scream because they're making a mess of it :rolleyes: I've posted about this before on a similar thread - virus protection yes, spam protection no. Shouldn't even need virus protection if people installed their own firewall and virus scanner :rolleyes: It's been suggested that NTL might maintain a blacklist, but like I said before - if NTL's customers have trouble contacting NTL and getting them to do stuff, what hope will the owners of blacklisted servers have? :D
Toreador
17-05-2004, 13:43
You scream for spam protection because you can't/won't implement your own
So how can I implement spam protection that will work when I'm not around to run it myself? I can't, so my quotas are exceeded.
To block emails containing the commonest viruses is something that would be so trivial to impk,ement that even NTL would be hard pushed to get it wrong. Actually I probably shouldn't say that or they'll take it as a challenge :erm:
greencreeper
17-05-2004, 14:03
So how can I implement spam protection that will work when I'm not around to run it myself?
I'd just leave my email client open as always :erm: The PC is never turned off - being windows 98 it needs the occasional reboot though :) Pretty much runs itself. Like said - spam is automatically removed from the server; all other emails are left until they're deleted by NTL.
[edit: selling erorss]
Toreador
17-05-2004, 14:30
I'm obviously more of a wuss than you are, I'd never leave my PC on when I go away on holiday, too much worry about lightning strikes etc!
greencreeper
17-05-2004, 16:45
I'm obviously more of a wuss than you are, I'd never leave my PC on when I go away on holiday, too much worry about lightning strikes etc!
<glances at surge protector> :D
I know people leave their central heating on so the house is nice and warm on their return. Now if that went wrong it could potentially blow the side of the house off :D A PC seems a small thing.
i've recently been getting spam mails labelled as SEXUALLY EXPLICIT as per this acticle
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/14/porn_spam_label/
now my thinking is that if these mails are conforming to the FTC rules then they should also be conforming to the CAN-SPAM rules of the US and I can then use the remove me link ok to get off the list. Anyone else got any mails like this yet and tried the remove link..
trouble is these days if you use a remove link how do you know if it has really worked or not with the amount of spam we get!! they can easily mail back to say you have removed and then send you 10 mails from different companies all spoofed without you realising..
greencreeper
25-05-2004, 18:15
i've recently been getting spam mails labelled as SEXUALLY EXPLICIT as per this acticle
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/04/14/porn_spam_label/
now my thinking is that if these mails are conforming to the FTC rules then they should also be conforming to the CAN-SPAM rules of the US and I can then use the remove me link ok to get off the list. Anyone else got any mails like this yet and tried the remove link..
trouble is these days if you use a remove link how do you know if it has really worked or not with the amount of spam we get!! they can easily mail back to say you have removed and then send you 10 mails from different companies all spoofed without you realising..
You wouldn't get me clicking a remove link for all the tea in china - it's pretty much guaranteed to make things worse regardless of guidelines/laws/regulations.
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