Football : Season 2007/2008

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Was uncle Jack a multi billionaire? No he wasn't, he was a sick old man, bit like your current owner, incidently, you wondered what'll happen when he dies, if it's anything like what happend when his parents died it should be interesting.

Malcolm Glazer? Please enlighten me, what happened, that I should be aware of?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Say what you want about Roman, at least he appears to be a genuine fan,

Ah yes! So much of a fan, he hasn't attended a game at the bridge since the defeat to Spurs in the league cup final.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

who has taken care of the clubs financial future should anything happen to him or he decides to walk away, where as your owner wouldn't give his own sisters the sweat of his substancial brow, I wonder who most people would rather have in charge of their club?

Do you honestly believe Roman is in it, for anything other than profit? Surely, if he was in it for the love of the game, he would have bought a club a couple of thousand miles further east.

[iadom]

Originally Posted by nffc

Leeds fail in their pts appeal...

Now that is a crying shame,

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pedantic

Malcolm Glazer? Please enlighten me, what happened, that I should be aware of?

When Malcolm’s mother Hannah died in 1980, she left an estate worth $1m. Litigation erupted soon after, the court battle over the will ensued, passing through six judges and has gone on for an incredible 24 years.

At one point when the opposing attorney left the room the stenographer recorded Glazer saying: “We have got to keep going until there is no money in this estate.” He has said he meant that his sisters were intent on running down the estate. In 1986 he was ordered to pay fees of $268,299 and a judge said his “intentional and prolonged non-compliance with the court’s reasonable orders” had cost his sisters.

That's the type of man he is, lets hope and I do genuinly mean it, that no such nonsense occurs when he dies.

Ah yes! So much of a fan, he hasn't attended a game at the bridge since the defeat to Spurs in the league cup final.

Has Malcolm ever attended a match? Besides if I were a Chelsea fan I'd be more concerned if he weren't present at the first match of next season, big things are about to happen there for sure, whether they win a trophy this season or not

Do you honestly believe Roman is in it, for anything other than profit? Surely, if he was in it for the love of the game, he would have bought a club a couple of thousand miles further east.

I thought his cash was proping up CSKA Moscow? And considering how much he has spent I can't see him ever getting a return on his investment so I say he weren't in it for the money.

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

When Malcolm’s mother Hannah died in 1980, she left an estate worth $1m. Litigation erupted soon after, the court battle over the will ensued, passing through six judges and has gone on for an incredible 24 years.

At one point when the opposing attorney left the room the stenographer recorded Glazer saying: “We have got to keep going until there is no money in this estate.” He has said he meant that his sisters were intent on running down the estate. In 1986 he was ordered to pay fees of $268,299 and a judge said his “intentional and prolonged non-compliance with the court’s reasonable orders” had cost his sisters.

That's the type of man he is, lets hope and I do genuinly mean it, that no such nonsense occurs when he dies.

At the very least, you could have provided a link to the article in question, so we can judge not only the authenticity, but the credibility too.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Has Malcolm ever attended a match?

Considering the bloke has had 2 strokes, I think we can forgive for his lack of attendance, don't you?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Besides if I were a Chelsea fan I'd be more concerned if he weren't present at the first match of next season, big things are about to happen there for sure, whether they win a trophy this season or not

And this information comes from where? Or is this a 'gut' feeling?

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I thought his cash was proping up CSKA Moscow? And considering how much he has spent I can't see him ever getting a return on his investment so I say he weren't in it for the money.

Roman is a multi billionaire for a good reason, he's a shrewd business man, to suggest he won't get a return on his investment is dillusional on your part.

[iadom]

Well one Russian side are doing well, Zenit stuffing Bayern Munich in the first UEFA semi, second leg. Live on ITV4 ATM. Oliver Kahn has got a right cob on.

Hope the 'Gers can pull it off tonight.

Jim.

[iadom]

Well done Rangers, ironic that two English teams are going to Russia for one final and a Russian team is coming to Manchester for the other.


Zenit St Petersburg did look rather tasty as they thrashed Bayern Munich tonight.

Jim.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pedantic

At the very least, you could have provided a link to the article in question, so we can judge not only the authenticity, but the credibility too.

Link You might be interested to know that the Guardian had reason to call him a slum landlord as well, again lovely bloke

Considering the bloke has had 2 strokes, I think we can forgive for his lack of attendance, don't you?

How many had he had when the club was purchased? Zero weren't it so no I dont think it's forgivable, mind you he did say it was a 'great franchise'

Roman is a multi billionaire for a good reason, he's a shrewd business man, to suggest he won't get a return on his investment is dillusional on your part.

So why did he buy all those boats, to sell at a profit at a later date, why does Bill Gates donate tens of millions to charity every year, to make a profit, if you can't see that some times people do things for pleasure, I'd suggest it's you that is delusional

[punky]

Blimey, a United fan standind up for Glazer? How things change. Is he actually liked now?

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Link You might be interested to know that the Guardian had reason to call him a slum landlord as well, again lovely bloke



How many had he had when the club was purchased? Zero weren't it so no I dont think it's forgivable, mind you he did say it was a 'great franchise'



So why did he buy all those boats, to sell at a profit at a later date, why does Bill Gates donate tens of millions to charity every year, to make a profit, if you can't see that some times people do things for pleasure, I'd suggest it's you that is delusional

You may have noticed that United spent high, pre-Glazier?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Russ B

You may have noticed that United spent high, pre-Glazier?

What are you saying, that you have always been partial to buying success?

[pedantic]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How many had he had when the club was purchased? Zero weren't it so no I dont think it's forgivable, mind you he did say it was a 'great franchise'

Again, maybe you can tell us, you seem to know more about glazers appearances at old trafford than the rest of us.

I find it amusing, you tell us how appalling the owner is, and forget how the board from your own club tried screwing it's fans over with a bond scheme, charging supporters over a thousand quid for the "privilege" of buying a season ticket. What nice people you've had running your club in times gone by.

Originally Posted by Gavin

Blimey, a United fan standind up for Glazer? How things change. Is he actually liked now?

Nope, I'm completely impartial about the Glazers. But I do find it funny how low people will stoop to, to undermine the club. Success on the field, always brings people out to criticise where they can. You'd almost think there was some jealous buggers out there.

[Russ B]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

What are you saying, that you have always been partial to buying success?

Yes, with money we earned by being successful, not from a sugar daddy.

See the difference?

[sherer]

I thought Glazer bought the club for his sons, particularly Joel. His sons are on the board and are at games alot.

I think this is an issue no one will agree on so this debate will just run and run

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by pedantic

Again, maybe you can tell us, you seem to know more about glazers appearances at old trafford than the rest of us.

Not rest of, just you it would seem

I find it amusing, you tell us how appalling the owner is, and forget how the board from your own club tried screwing it's fans over with a bond scheme, charging supporters over a thousand quid for the "privilege" of buying a season ticket. What nice people you've had running your club in times gone by.

Some ex board members to be precise, speaking of screwing fans haven't your clubs ticket prices doubled since they took over? Oh and incidentally it was £500, get your facts right and these days I bet there are fans up and down the country who would more than willingly pay the equivalent of £50 a year the guarantee their season ticket for 10 years

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Yes, with money we earned by being successful, not from a sugar daddy.

See the difference?

Not really

[punky]

Originally Posted by pedantic

Nope, I'm completely impartial about the Glazers. But I do find it funny how low people will stoop to, to undermine the club. Success on the field, always brings people out to criticise where they can. You'd almost think there was some jealous buggers out there.

I wasn't being faecetious about it I am genuinely interested. Last I heard, Glazer was getting death threats, lifelong fans were forming breakaway-clubs Old Trafford was mortgaged to the hilt, and was about to be renamed the Budweiser-Nike stadium, and all the transfer money was going on the interest payments. Then it all suddenly died a death.