Rugby Union - Page 13

**Russ B** · 14-10-2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

You really object to headlines about one of the home nations being in a semi final? If Wales were ever in one you'd see a similar amount of coverage

That's utter rubbish, you're completely delusional if you believe that. Want proof? Go and have a look at the back cover of today's People.

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Sporting rivalry is one thing, Scotland and Wales attitude towards the English is just so pointless, perhaps if their fans spent a little more time getting behind their team rather than indulging in such unimpressive characteristics they might do better in tournaments themselves

That's such an old argument it belongs in the 1950s. There's nothing different between my attitude to England and say, Arsenal.

TheDaddy · 14-10-2007, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Russ B

That's utter rubbish, you're completely delusional if you believe that. Want proof? Go and have a look at the back cover of today's People.

I'd rather have a look at the back of last months People, where I guarantee you'd find little mention of the compitition full stop, let alone England, we get into the final of the World Cup and you object to a few headlines

pretty pathetic Russ

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That's such an old argument it belongs in the 1950s. There's nothing different between my attitude to England and say, Arsenal.

It's as true then as it is today, where does it get you, an hours gloating every couple of years when we go out of the football at the quarter final stage of competitions you and the Jocks never qualify for anyway and what is your attitude towards Arsenal, one of hatred perhaps

**Russ B** · 14-10-2007, 12:39

What I object to is Wales and Scotland being treated in the UK media as the poor relations of the country. If you want to be that ignorant then fine, good luck to you but don't moan when we don't share your enthusiasm. And I don't have any person or team - I consider Arsenal, Liverpool and Chelsea to be United's sporting rivals. Reading anything more in to it just makes you out to be immature and petty.

peanutkp · 14-10-2007, 12:47

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Originally Posted by Russ B

What I object to is Wales and Scotland being treated in the UK media as the poor relations of the country.

But they are though ain't they when it comes to sport.

But if it was Wales or Scotland in the final I'd be cheering them on as much as I would England, as they are part of the UK afterall.

Maybe the English ain't as bad as the Welsh or Scottish in attitude because of the underdog thing, we always want them to do well (unless they are against England of course).

TheDaddy · 14-10-2007, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Russ B

What I object to is Wales and Scotland being treated in the UK media as the poor relations of the country. If you want to be that ignorant then fine, good luck to you but don't moan when we don't share your enthusiasm.

I don't want your enthusiasm, just a reason why you feel the need to comment, full stop, when Wales fall flat on their faces, as they frequently do, no one here feels the need to comment, when Wales manage a win no one feels the need to say 'you scrapped a win blah blah', yet you can't seem to help yourself and when some one asks you about it you come out with some crap about media bias, completely disregarding the fact the competition has been largely ignored by the media

nfs6600 · 14-10-2007, 13:29

Bordering racism this thread me thinks. If a mod wasn't invovled in the debate it would have been closed!

**Russ B** · 14-10-2007, 15:16

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I don't want your enthusiasm, just a reason why you feel the need to comment, full stop, when Wales fall flat on their faces, as they frequently do, no one here feels the need to comment, when Wales manage a win no one feels the need to say 'you scrapped a win blah blah', yet you can't seem to help yourself and when some one asks you about it you come out with some crap about media bias, completely disregarding the fact the competition has been largely ignored by the media

Same reason I react the same on the odd occasion when Arsenal win something.

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Originally Posted by nfs6600

Bordering racism this thread me thinks. If a mod wasn't invovled in the debate it would have been closed!

I've been out this afternoon but have IQs dropped sharply since I left? How can I be racist?

Shadow Demon UK · 14-10-2007, 16:33

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Originally Posted by nfs6600

Bordering racism this thread me thinks. If a mod wasn't invovled in the debate it would have been closed!

How exactly?

nfs6600 · 14-10-2007, 19:34

No wait sorry, had a rethink (and a sleep after a heavy night), its patriotism

All this England vs the rest really gets on my nerves. Russ, get yourself a taffy paper if you don't like the English ones.

Back onto topic anyway as this has gone way off. Who would you rather see England face in the Final? I would prefer the Argies

**Russ B** · 14-10-2007, 19:43

The jingoism would be unbearable if it was Argentina. And I don't buy English papers - I get British ones

c_r · 14-10-2007, 19:46

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Originally Posted by Russ B

And I don't buy English papers - I get British ones

Why though, if you don't like what they report?

nfs6600 · 14-10-2007, 19:50

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Originally Posted by Russ B

The jingoism would be unbearable if it was Argentina.

Hmm true. I just cant wait for what will (hopfully) be a great game

**Russ B** · 14-10-2007, 20:05

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Originally Posted by c_r

Why though, if you don't like what they report?

Lack of alternative? Still if I was an England fan I'd be hoping Wilkinson stays fit.

c_r · 14-10-2007, 20:15

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Originally Posted by Russ B

Lack of alternative? Still if I was an England fan I'd be hoping Wilkinson stays fit.

I'm not sure but I seem to rememeber a couple of alternatives from my days living in Cardiff (the western something?). I agree that Wilkinson is pretty much the key man although I can't see England beating the likely opponents of South Africa anyway (mind you that's what I thought about Australia and France).

Toto · 14-10-2007, 20:18

15 Minutes into the South Africa V Argentina match, and I have lost count as to how many times Will Greenwood has made reference to the England team, its incredible.

Update, so far he has been able to mention nearly half of the England team by name, what an incredible piece of biased commentary............we still have 50 minutes of this nonsense.