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Old 27-10-2006, 09:52   #1
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Assigning Static IP addresses

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I was wondering if somebody could help me, i have four pc's on a wireless networks. secuirty is provided by mac address filtering and i want to assign static ip's to each pc. i have rules set up for port forwarding designated to specific ip addresses but i keep getting different ip addresses.

am i right in thinking to do this i would need to disable DHCP in the router config page. and then on each pc right click the network card i use and specify the IP address i want along with subnet mask and default gateway being the router ip address?


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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

You don't have to disable the DHCP server at all (its useful for roaming PCs - like your friends laptops etc) - just make the range higher, but you're right about the rest.
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

That would be one way of doing it.
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

Don't forget, if you're using a static IP address you need to specify the DNS servers on each client.
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You don't have to disable the DHCP server at all (its useful for roaming PCs - like your friends laptops etc) - just make the range higher, but you're right about the rest.
On the otherhand, wouldn't it serve as an extra step if it's disabled in locking down the network?
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

you should be able assign permanent ip addresses via the router, pairing mac addresses with permanent addresses. What 's the router?
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

If you mean static DHCP yes he could do that, but it would be easier just to set it in the network card properties..
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

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Don't forget, if you're using a static IP address you need to specify the DNS servers on each client.
I just tell my PC's the router is the DNS server. Works fine for me
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On the otherhand, wouldn't it serve as an extra step if it's disabled in locking down the network?
No not really, its an extra precaution, but I imagine if they've managed to break your encryption, they'll be clever enough to try IPs until it works if they're really that desperate to get in.
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

Hi all,


All working ok, I have left DHCP enabled and set the dns as the router ip address and it seems to work ok.

security is provided by mac address list in my linksys router, is that ok? would it be easy to break. to be fair i live in a sleepy village so not overly worried abt security and neither are my neighbours judging by the amount of unsecured networks around
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

MAC address filtering is pretty easy to break if you want to.
I would recommend you use WPA encyption if the router/cards support it.
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

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Hi,


I was wondering if somebody could help me, i have four pc's on a wireless networks. secuirty is provided by mac address filtering and i want to assign static ip's to each pc. i have rules set up for port forwarding designated to specific ip addresses but i keep getting different ip addresses.

am i right in thinking to do this i would need to disable DHCP in the router config page. and then on each pc right click the network card i use and specify the IP address i want along with subnet mask and default gateway being the router ip address?


Cheers.
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In answer to the question of how to create a static ip (because I couldnt see anyone answer this):

On each pc requiring a static address:

start > control panel > network connections > right click the connection the pc uses, select properties > General tab > theres an adapter icon with a configure button (click it) > then advanced tab of new properties page and look down the list of properties for one like "Network Address" (click on it and fill in the dotted quad i.e 10.0.0.1 in the value box)

This is useful when hosting a particular service from a particular machine (like a http server) so you do not have to expose all the pcs on your network to port 80 or w/e

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MAC address filtering is pretty easy to break if you want to.
I would recommend you use WPA encyption if the router/cards support it.
MAC Address filtering easy to break - any links to this? or proof of concept on methodology? I think your talking about MAC address spoofing (not hard) but the main part is getting the correct MAC to begin with. If your behind a Hardware firewall you should not be able to do this so please tell.

and WPA is for Wireless data encryption? not quite the same as the question asked and not to be confused as anything to do with static ip adressing.

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Hi all,


All working ok, I have left DHCP enabled and set the dns as the router ip address and it seems to work ok.

security is provided by mac address list in my linksys router, is that ok? would it be easy to break. to be fair i live in a sleepy village so not overly worried abt security and neither are my neighbours judging by the amount of unsecured networks around
DHCP should be on and thats what takes care of the handing out of IPS to each connected machine BUT DNS should be the IP of your ISP DNS server (assuming you dont have a dns server set up in your LAN^^)
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MAC Address filtering easy to break - any links to this? or proof of concept on methodology? I think your talking about MAC address spoofing (not hard) but the main part is getting the correct MAC to begin with. If your behind a Hardware firewall you should not be able to do this so please tell.
You can obtain MAC addresses from clients connecting to wireless access points using Kismet/KisMAC or Netstumbler.
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

Oh okay - heard of aircrack and a few others but didnt think they would sniff mac of the air. interesting... Wireless adapter and a download or 2 coming up
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Re: Assigning Static IP addresses

Well, aircrack is really for cracking encryption - airodump is useful for grabbing traffic, and will allow you to capture MAC addresses like Kismet does (look under the station field for MAC addresses of clients, whereas the BSSID gives the MAC address of an access point).

Just out of interest, are you doing this on a Windows box, or under *nix?
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