21-03-2004, 23:08
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NTL Proxy Servers
Hope this thread can be stuck !
Several NTL staff have rightly expressed concerns about proxy servers being posted and all the users making use of them.
How about posting the proxy server that you as a member are using so we have an idea of what proxy servers are being overloaded - This will ensure that the proxy servers are not hammered as this will help no-one !
While you are at it - Report on the thread the proxy servers that are causing problems. We could then colate this information on a weekly basis and pass it to the nthell team for passing on to NTL. If anything it will give them an idea of the proxy servers that are creating problems.
I think this could help with load distribution !!!
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21-03-2004, 23:13
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Cable Forum Team
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
Nice idea Stu. I'm currently using cache2-dbln.server.ntli.net which I selected at random from Robin Walker's pages this afternoon. Prior to that I had no proxy specified and was suffering slow page loading, or in one or two cases pages failing to load at all ( www.scifi.com/battlestar for example - finally got to see the miniseries this weekend!  ). AFAIK if I don't specify a proxy I am dealt with transparently by one of the Luton proxies. Until a few weeks ago I had one of the belfast proxies specified, but then it began refusing to load one particular site we need quite badly at the mo ( www.gspc.co.uk because we're moving house!). I've not tried it again since ditching it.
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21-03-2004, 23:45
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
im on cache3-swan.server.ntli.net, im in manc area.
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22-03-2004, 00:21
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
Nice one guys... Make sure you put the problem proxy in bold so its easer for me to get all the info I need to pass on.
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22-03-2004, 00:22
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
I've now removed my manual proxy settings, so I'm back on NTL's assigned proxy cache1-bagu.server.ntli.net. I started using a UUNet Pipex proxy when I last had problems!!  Oh!....can I say that?
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22-03-2004, 00:28
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
I always seem to be on this proxy cache1-mant.server.ntli.net
Its very hit and miss works when tech support are working and plays up when they finish work. You contact them and get told to contact them again when it isn't working... 
it is mainly national lottery, ebay and nthw that play up. I will make a list of every website from now that has a problem opening.
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22-03-2004, 01:20
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
If I follow Robin's advice:
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Which is my web proxy cache?
You can find out whether your web connection is being proxy cached, and, if so, the address of the web proxy cache, by visiting either of these sites:
http://www.all-nettools.com/pr.htm (see Remote address or Remote host)
http://www.broadband-help.com/cm_diagnose.asp?init=1 (see Proxy Name(R-DNS))
Because the ISP might be load-balancing across more than one web proxy cache, your web connections might use different proxy caches for different web destinations. So you might get different answers from the two sites above. And the actual cache used for your other web accesses might be different yet again. When load-balancing is in operation, the above sites will identify an individual cache in a cluster of caches, and the DNS names of the caches will usually have an obvious structure enabling you to deduce the names of other members of the cluster.
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According to Broadband Help I am on cache4-nott.server.ntli.net
According to All Nettools I am on cache10-nott.server.ntli.net
1-3 & 5-9 may come into the equation. So I am not sure what identifying particular proxy IP's will achieve?
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22-03-2004, 08:29
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
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Originally Posted by stuartbe
Hope this thread can be stuck
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Done.
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22-03-2004, 11:04
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One of the Original
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
I am changing between any of the baguley or winneresh ones.
The loading sensing software and specifying any of the manc ones makes my browsing dire.
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22-03-2004, 11:15
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
I'll check tonight.
The problems ones I have been on:
cache1-brhm.server.ntli.net
cache3-brhm.server.ntli.net
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22-03-2004, 12:22
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
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Originally Posted by Nikko
If I follow Robin's advice:
According to Broadband Help I am on cache4-nott.server.ntli.net
According to All Nettools I am on cache10-nott.server.ntli.net
1-3 & 5-9 may come into the equation. So I am not sure what identifying particular proxy IP's will achieve?
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All Nettools seems very hit and miss ATM, yesterday it reported "No proxy found" when other tests showed one, this morning it reported 62.252.192.13 (cache 10) as my proxy when other tests showed it as 62.252.192.12 (cache 9). It is now reporting " no proxy found" again.
I have IP/DNS set to auto obtain, and have had since the proxies came back online in this area, I have had no noticable problems at all.
Every time I check, or look at the small sig boxes people have, it reports my IP as 62.252.192.12 which is manc cache 9. That must be the shortest route here. Flicking around other proxy test sites I have just gone through cache 7 and cache 3 without any problems.
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22-03-2004, 14:23
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
Is this thread just for BroadBand proxies as I'm on dialup?
Also is the proxy the one you change in the settings menu on IE?
As reported in another thread when I use the default proxy I get problems with the back button causing the web page to loose formating, plus I get 'Can't find server' messages more often than if I use a non NTL proxy.
But having said that, even tho I've change the proxy settings to a non NTL proxy, Nettools reports an NTL cache (normally a Brighton one), so I take it changing the proxy doesnt effect the cache properties???
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22-03-2004, 14:29
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
This is what my proxy is set to :- 212.23.8.1
and nettools reports my proxy server as:-
n102-mp1.cvx3-b.pop.dial.ntli.net
cache6-popl.server.ntli.net
Hope I've got that right?
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22-03-2004, 14:57
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
i have only once or twice in 3 years of ntl needed to change my ie proxy settings, general rule is zilch in that setting
since the major outages and poor service around 2 weeks ago iv had no choice but to continually change this setting, it seems there are major routing issues especially to international destinations and back to here in the uk,
Im beggining to wonder if some kind of port throttling is being tested, but a couple of friends in austarlia is pinging major uk websites and getting very poor results, and my pinging some au places also does the same
to US it varies, it can be ok then its suddenly appalling or completely lost
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22-03-2004, 16:09
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Re: Overloading Proxy Servers
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Originally Posted by Nikko
If I follow Robin's advice:
According to Broadband Help I am on cache4-nott.server.ntli.net
According to All Nettools I am on cache10-nott.server.ntli.net
1-3 & 5-9 may come into the equation. So I am not sure what identifying particular proxy IP's will achieve?
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You have perfectly illustrated what I mentioned in my guide on proxies and what the techies keep trying to drum into people (without much success so far). When not manually specifying a server - i.e allowing NTL to route you via the transparent caches - you do not use one specific proxy - you use a group - when you visit different sites, you use different cache servers in your group.
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