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Originally Posted by SxF
my firewall is blocking it because i can still access my gmail account
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Sorry, can you be a bit more clear? Are you saying that you are able to access your gmail account ok in Thunderbird? If so it could be that Thunderbird is allowed to connect to some ports but not others, for example your firewall may not know of Thunderbird by default as being an email program where it would already know about OE. Therefore you firewall could be blocking any programs from connecting to port 110 except for OE as it specifically recognises it as an email program. Can't really explain to clearly right now, but hopefully you understand what I'm trying to get at....