Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
30-10-2008, 16:00
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Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
I have a website which uses my virgin media webspace (well, ntlworld as it's been around so long), which can be seen at www.xch180.co.uk.
On here, in a test area (add index-test.html to the domain) I have .shtml files used to permit me to include html inside html using :-
<!--#include file="file.htm" -->
However, they don't work, and all files that are .shtml appear as text.
Does VM not support SSI at all, or can I get it activated and, if so, how?
Note: I have already tried adding an HTML doctype to the head of the shtml file.
TIA
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30-10-2008, 16:02
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
Looks like they don't, on Residential connections.
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30-10-2008, 17:34
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
The free web space (all 55 meg of it) is very basic. But it is free.
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31-10-2008, 06:57
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
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Originally Posted by TheNorm
The free web space (all 55 meg of it) is very basic. But it is free.
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Only in the sense that it is included in the monthly cost of the broadband :-)
So, if I wanted to contact VM to ask about it, is the only P-O-C the broadband helpline number, the 0906 one ?
Incidentally, http://help2.virginmedia.com/help/ge..._pwp_tools_ssi implies it works.
Last edited by DartGuru; 31-10-2008 at 07:36.
Reason: added URL I found
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31-10-2008, 12:46
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
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Very interesting! But did you notice that these pages seem to be specific for "blueyonder" users, e.g.:
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Hostname: ftp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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(from http://help2.virginmedia.com/help/ge...p_building_ftp)
My area is ex-NTL (was Cambridge Cable), and I've never been able to get anything but plain vanilla HTML to work on my "free" webspace.
Can anyone shed any light on this?
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10-11-2008, 14:12
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
I guess that's a "no" then.
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20-11-2008, 11:51
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
You can put what you want to include in a java script, then use the script instead of the include. This was done a lot in the days of 28k modems, just to save download time for anything repeated through a site.
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29-11-2008, 09:47
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
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...I'm very confused now.
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As in post #5, this seems to be restricted to those who are ex-blueyonder.
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29-11-2008, 16:00
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
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Originally Posted by DartGuru
Does VM not support SSI at all, or can I get it activated and, if so, how?
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A quick search of the VM webspace website and I found this :
http://www.virginmedia.com/customers...e-includes.php
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29-11-2008, 22:56
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
I think the mime type might be wrong on the server - I get text just loading the file using:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan.go...testnews.shtml
But if I save it locally and open that it opens ok, though obviously saving it changed the meta data, Firefox just ignores the <!--#include file="file.htm" --> as any decent browser should.
I don't think it is an issue with ssi working on the server as the rest of the html should still display - something else is causing the browser(s) to think it is a plain text file.
Bear in mind I know almost nothing about web servers and html.
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01-12-2008, 00:04
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Re: Server-Side Includes (shtml files) do not work
As I understood it, ex-Telewest PWP supports a lot more tricks than ex-NTL homepage - only time will tell if they ever get merged into one, and which way the merge would go, though there would be fury from some ex-TW customers if they lost features they were using.
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